No problem. 1st PokerCoaching member to be staked... and also the first that cashed. That is great!
@joethems15 жыл бұрын
Congrats Mike! Thanks for letting us review your hands.
@this_is_tiff5 жыл бұрын
GG
@fayhou985 жыл бұрын
Dear Jonathan. I watch a LOT of poker "vloggers" and try to learn from them by them just doing their "commentary" on "what they were thinking" at the time. But you are obviously a poker COACH and you take the time to break things down (not to explain what YOU were thinking at the time), but to explain to us (your students) how WE should be thinking. I love it! I appreciate it! And Lord knows if I had the money, I'd pay for your subscription coaching, because I believe you are not only a good man, but a good player, teacher, etc. God bless you for that! Now, my point of confusion. I have heard you admonish "us" (your humble students) several times for betting too big, which you've said forces bad players to play "correctly," with the obvious follow-on implications that ... we don't want to do that! We want to let them make mistakes, but if we bet too big then they will fold the hands that we want them to call with and ONLY call with the hands that are beating us. That's not good! (I frankly thought this was GENIUS! I frankly saw this as a mistake that I REPEATEDLY make! So, going forward I have committed myself to trying to keep them around with their gutshots and their backdoor flush draws, etc. Don't force them to fold their marginal hands!) So, jump cut to this video and the first hand you talk about: KT of hearts EP/MP raises pre, flops 9dTd4c and bets ... too small. Now, I get that you made some subtle points about WHY his bet sizing was too small that ultimately may answer my question, including: 1. You said that KT on this flop is "vulnerable." So, maybe that's a consideration that must be balanced against the need/desire to keep people around with their weak holdings. IF your appointment has AQ, for example, you've out flopped him, but ... there are A LOT of turn cards that can hurt us! 2. You mentioned the additional consideration of it being EARLY in the tournament when stack sizes are much deeper relative to the blinds (and therefore the pot sizes) which taps into even the psychology of a pot-sized flop bet early on not "seeming" that big (again, relative to the stack sizes), etc. So, maybe those are the nuanced differences, right? Maybe it's a difference in the thinking in a cash game versus a tournament versus even early in a tournament versus ... (fill in the blank). But IF you were my poker coach in a classroom setting and you said what you said about both the flop bet AND the turn bet being too small, which even included you mentioning that they might call with a gutshot (which from the earlier lesson I thought was good!), I'm now confused! Poker Concept 1: Don't bet too big, forcing weaker opponents to play correctly. Size your bets to make it easier for them to call where they are behind and unlikely to catch up. Poker Concept 2: Charge your opponents to draw. Punish their passive play. Protect your vulnerable hands by betting. (Note: I'm not sure this is a totally fair summary of everything you were saying in your hand-one review, but you get the idea.) IF these two ideas are contradictory in some ways then how can we know when to go with concept 1 versus concept 2?
@PokerCoaching5 жыл бұрын
Use concept 1 on disconnected, 'dry' board types where your opponents have a lot of junk in their range. Use concept 2 on connected boards, where there are lots of draws and marginal hands in your opponents range (and not as much junk). I'm glad you're enjoying the videos! Feel free to start a free membership at pokercoaching.com to check out the site and go through some quizzes if you would like!
@scottsanford41445 жыл бұрын
Jonathan, I think backing a student in a tournament each month is a great idea. The hand reviews were excellent and should be required for the backing. Also it might be good to record with the student to fill in with their thought process. You have done many excellent videos, but I thought this was one of your best.
@PokerCoaching5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@joethems15 жыл бұрын
This was great all around Jonathan. Great to see you backing your students and then reviewing how they did.
@mig72902 жыл бұрын
24.31 In defence of the nit at least he put in a good defensive bet on the flop. But Nits often can become very attached to their strongest range AA to JJs and AK to AQ suited since they are the only cards they play and they studied TJ Cloutier's books from 20 years ago. Edit I made a mistake, he only bet 4,200 into 10,500. Poor nit lol. I think this Mike has some good live reading skills. He probably could tell the opponent was over attached to his big pocket pair.
@sean_haz4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan mentioned trying to get over pairs to fold in the 86dd hand but you'd actually prefer to get a call from KK You win 58.6% of a 74500 pot (43657) And if he folds you get 14700 I think at this stage of the tournament chip ev is all that matters so seems like a value shove to me.
@stevenalper38905 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the option of check-raising the KT on the river? High variance but it's going to work a lot.
@SucramRenrut5 жыл бұрын
On the 74 hand 56 also gets there (assuming it is played without a raise some percentage of the time), so a smaller bet could induce a raise for value from the villain and allow you to get it all in.
@Gos12345675 жыл бұрын
The 2nd hand has to be a fold,you raise pre bet into 2 players on that hi card board and get raised,only super agrros are bluff raising in that spot and then shoving turn after you call,the general population isnt doing this with a flush draw.Good fold by student.Remember a bad call is way worse than a bad fold.Plenty better spots to chip up than chasing a flush with the hope some guy is spazzing out (without reads)
@67geetar5 жыл бұрын
This didn't make sense to me either, maybe it's a live poker thing, online I'm never calling off 162 BBs with TPTK even with a nut flush draw unless I know there a complete maniac, but hey what do I know
@67geetar5 жыл бұрын
@preflopstore97185 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic! Love to see more just like this as I myself run into situations like these and this perspective is a game changer.
@PokerCoaching5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I'm glad you liked it!
@crazydonkey1105 жыл бұрын
In the hand with 86dd what do you think about a min raise on the flop to gain the betting lead since we have all the sets on this board and then a jam on the turn to try and make all overpairs fold?
@PokerCoaching5 жыл бұрын
I really don't like min-raising on the flop. Your fold equity will go way down on the turn on 'blank' rivers. For example, if you min-raise and a 2s comes on the turn, your equity gets cut significantly and an overpair is much more likely to call the turn jam. Plus after a turn min-raise, your opponent is getting great pot odds. I much prefer jamming the flop in this spot.
@Slade3665 жыл бұрын
20:51 shocked to put in the math and seen 86 is actually AHEAD of Aces 57.68% - 40.51% (53.29% - 44.85% if they have the Ace of Diamonds)
@zachhopkins61625 жыл бұрын
Little bet of a mistake on the 86d hand. We don't want overpairs to fold as we're actually a substantial favorite against overpairs and pretty much every hand in our opponents range except 77. Really great video and advice. Love the channel.
@milhill35 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel like I would have folded the KTs preflop unless I was sure that I was at a passive table. Too tight?
@KevinsKontentKorner5 жыл бұрын
Frank Milowicki not imo, it’s early no need to be overly aggressive
@PokerCoaching5 жыл бұрын
I'm opening up KTs pretty much every time here. If you play well post-flop, it's a profitable open from EP.
@mooseduty54265 жыл бұрын
Love ur stuff Jonathan... trying to win poker coaching cause I know it'll bring my game up and I can't afford it at the moment but until then run well... Bgood
@PokerCoaching5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I'm glad you like it. Good luck with everything!
@taojones49415 жыл бұрын
Great as usual. Your insights are unmatched bro.
@taojones49414 жыл бұрын
@@gregorykelly8000 Others of similar ilk. Lol!
@trevorstrutt15 жыл бұрын
U do this for us canadian guys that play at pg and Niagara etc
@PokerCoaching5 жыл бұрын
Yes. I'm backing one of my members who is playing in Montreal this week.
@trevorstrutt15 жыл бұрын
@@PokerCoaching awesome buddie ..I should do few courses with you..if you look me up at diff tournies I always just tear them apart and somehow end up in totally bad spot with second nuts all the time lololol ..maybe u can help me steer clear of those things and couple other small leaks .
@PokerCoaching5 жыл бұрын
@@trevorstrutt1 Yes, I highly recommend checking out my training site pokercoaching.com. You can start a free membership to get a feel for the site. There are hundreds of interactive hand quizzes where I give you immediate feedback on your play. It will help you find any leaks you have!
@arbernumani37094 жыл бұрын
I think Mike just had a good read on his opponents. They seem to be calling stations
@Greatness4115 жыл бұрын
The villain is not tight passive.
@tylerjoyner98655 жыл бұрын
Training sites have hurt poker there is no doubt about that
@joshbrucks4 жыл бұрын
His stack is SMALLER than pot on river... All in is the bet.