I'm not calling it unless it makes your shot easier. Toeing your disc debatably makes it a harder shot, with slick footing and/or feeling the disc under-foot as you throw. That shot around the bush that was thrown from several feet away? I'm calling that.
@adamsandqvist65132 жыл бұрын
This
@jjames752 жыл бұрын
All of these faults made their shot easier, because they paid no attention to where they were placing their foot.
@cromandum2172 жыл бұрын
@@jjames75 this is the correct answer. people who foot fault have one less thing to think about when making a shot compared to those that dont
@Grannyknockers2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the only one I might call. And even that's iffy. I'm not calling anything unless I think there's intent.
@JamesG7612 ай бұрын
Love this
@samxyx2 жыл бұрын
Worst one to me was the one at 2:18 since she consciously improved her angle by faulting resulting in a significant advantage.
@FRETLESSDOG1 Жыл бұрын
How did she fault?
@samxyx Жыл бұрын
Looks like she's at least 2 feet or more behind her lie when she throws the disc. You're only allowed 30cm (11.8 inches). I forget if the rules were even stricter when that clip was recorded too. The PDGA updated some of it's lie rules around 2022 if I remember correctly. @@FRETLESSDOG1
@discblaster92102 жыл бұрын
every time I rewind and watch Conrad tuck and roll again, I laugh even harder
@Dr.Acula762 жыл бұрын
Some of Ricky s are confusing. The cracks don't all line up with the tee pad markers. Some he's over the line but still in front of the markers.
@danielpenrodii23892 жыл бұрын
If your teepad is based off a small line in a sidewalk, I’m not going to ever call somebody on a foot fault unless they’re truly beyond it. If their plant foot initially comes down at the line and as you rotate, it spins over, I won’t call that.
@lucasmuller80742 жыл бұрын
Love Ricky but you guys should watch 2021 goat hill round 3… It was incredible how many foot faults I saw
@GoWithTh3Flow2 жыл бұрын
Was that the one that Philo called out like 3 of them and was just shaking his head?
@lucasmuller80742 жыл бұрын
@@GoWithTh3Flow he was on commentary and pointed multiple out, it was gnarly
@hoodglasses82372 жыл бұрын
I just watched the whole round and didn't see Rick commit a single foot fault, nor did Philo mention one. Am I stoned?
@lucasmuller80742 жыл бұрын
@@hoodglasses8237 first 3 holes on the B9 he steps on his mini on up shots, the front nine he has a couple totaling about 5-7. Phill calls out another player that round but he really calls him out on the tournament in this video
@TherealPapaDogP2 жыл бұрын
I was there for it in person and have played that course (horribly). The footing is awkward in a few places.
@ethanl45672 жыл бұрын
You didn't include the worst one I've ever seen, when Nikko called Rick for stepping no closer than 2 feet to his lie.
@derekbroekhoven54982 жыл бұрын
That one is always so painful to watch for me. Nikko acts like a complete tool, but he's 100% right. Ricky was so far back from his lie, and it definitely gave him a better angle for the shot, pretty obviously foot fault
@patrickstark43102 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this. Nikko just couldn’t let that go though cause nobody else said anything and he was dumbfounded cause Ricky was definitely like 2 feet behind lmfao
@ethanl45672 жыл бұрын
@@patrickstark4310 he could and should have called courtesy on his cardmates for not seeing it, he probably chose not to for fear of getting called for time on putts lol
@MountaindewM2 жыл бұрын
This is the one I was waiting for. Seems some players have a serious issue and are lucky the rules aren't called all the time.
@ethanboyd29812 жыл бұрын
The burden of calling out foot faults shouldn't fall on the competitors themselves in the big tournaments. The DGPT should start having an official that follows each MPO and FPO card around who is in charge of calling any penalties. That would help legitimize the sport.
@Gennys Жыл бұрын
I have to disagree a little bit. It should still require at least one other player and an official call as well. Either two players, or a player and official. This gives some completely fine room for players to not second an official if they are being anal.
@dylandog1289 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is thats how newcomers ASSUME faults are handled. I remember when i found out the players are responsible i couldnt believe it.
@JB77776 Жыл бұрын
Officials being in disc golf would only increase the amount of people that get hurt by inconsistent calls. These people are human and they will get calls wrong. Even with video evidence. Officials will decide who wins. It happens in every sport that has some type of ref. Any player that has any level of respect isn't calling a fault on someone that is fighting for the win. unless it's really obvious.
@gregorypellar1555 Жыл бұрын
I call one foot fault in a tournament, which was clear and everybody else laughed it off. I did not call anymore even tough it was continuing problem. I think something needs to change
@ajfarber48052 жыл бұрын
The Log that ricky was on broke. That’s pretty unlucky. No way to hold that
@Kolossikal2 жыл бұрын
That Is one I would let slide, If you are not allowed to move the debris for a better foot stance, then you would have to be pretty shitty to call that when the debris breaks under you after you have released the disc.
@marshallpeters71742 жыл бұрын
@@Kolossikal If the debris is not attached, you can move it. That was a pretty big log, though.
@MattGames8902 жыл бұрын
I'm very ok with foot faults that involve heel slipping and touching the disc or so for big shots, but putting faults you get one freebie with me unless it is aggregious
@ImmanuelWoodworking2 жыл бұрын
👌🏼
@ryanmiller34662 жыл бұрын
This is the way
@dust-yo2 жыл бұрын
You're only giving free passes so I don't call yours on every hole. 😉
@MattGames8902 жыл бұрын
@@dust-yo it's the only way I get distance
@BallisticBerry2 жыл бұрын
7:30 that one is real rich considering what he did to stokely
@LeftySupreme2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie I find myself feeling lucky a lot of the time on Par 4’s that I didn’t foot fault. Doing a full run up for a second shot from the fairway with a specific spot to plant your foot, unlike the tee pad, is actually kinda difficult. Especially when you turn your head to throw. Like I said for me a lot of the time it feels like luck that I managed to get my foot in the right spot.
@jacksonpalmer89552 жыл бұрын
There’s something to be said for working on your footwork and knowing exactly how to plant your feet
@derekbroekhoven54982 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonpalmer8955 couldn't agree more. A good way I heard it put was that it puts the players that are actually following the rules at something of a disadvantage, because they're thinking about multiple things at once
@spockhozzer72072 жыл бұрын
I'm the opposite. It's easy for me to plant legally in the fairway. On the tee I get anxiety about slipping off the front of the box or hitting the worn down spot that everyone steps on
@KankleBaby2 жыл бұрын
@@spockhozzer7207 thank you for saying this. I have the exact same problem. I shortened my run up but I still get anxious on the tee pad. The rolled ankle, gnarly butt cheek welt, and plenty of close calls are always in the back of my mind when teeing off.
@JonReid012 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonpalmer8955 not really becuase no one calls it anyway 😅
@patrickstark43102 жыл бұрын
4:58 James Conrad’s effort to avoid using him Hands to fall is just incredible. 👏
@jamesthompson4242 жыл бұрын
Count me in the "who gives a crap" category on most of these. I would only care on putts in the circle and situations where the foot fault is obviously trying to gain an advantage (get further away from an obstacle).
@Allurex2 жыл бұрын
The main issue with most of these is that a player gains an advantage by not bothering to worry where they plant their feet on their throws. Not an advantage by being 6 inches one direction or another.
@steelerfan7862 жыл бұрын
@@Allurex 👏🙌
@jjames752 жыл бұрын
@@Allurex Exactly. A player who is concerned with faulting on an open field shot is at a distinct disadvantage vs. a player who assumes he won't get called and doesn't give a shit where he puts his foot.
@tjmcgough53332 жыл бұрын
If you’re thinking about where your foot is landing you should stick to ball golf.
@jjames752 жыл бұрын
@@tjmcgough5333 and if you aren't thinking about it and you foot fault, you should be called.
@dillonspellman49122 жыл бұрын
James' putt and the drive after it are both absolutely legal Edit: I was referring to the first one, but both are legal
@markforsyth20872 жыл бұрын
That upshot putt from behind the tree was pretty bad, definitely would call that one.
@billlavine34292 жыл бұрын
How was ezras a ff? He released before his foot touched down
@markkeffer10722 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing!
@willjerden70242 жыл бұрын
The rule is there has to be a supporting point behind the lie inside the "paper" the square behind the disc. Ezra's was a foot fault because he lifted his contact behind the lie (left foot) before he released his disc. I wouldn't have called it, cause if you slow it down almost all jump putts are foot faults.
@kyleweir6892 жыл бұрын
This is a super common misconception that comes from not reading the rules thoroughly. It's about the foot that's creating a stance in his lie area, not about the foot stepping through and touching the ground. Sometimes (Paul Ulibarri we're looking at you) it's about the front foot, but almost always the stance violation (not "foot fault") is with the foot at the mini
@willjerden70242 жыл бұрын
@@kyleweir689 Semantics, by rule Erza's was still a stance violation, or "foot fault", by whatever name you call it. If you follow the black and white letter of the rule. However as I stated, still wouldn't have called him on it, as likely wouldn't have seen it in real time.
@kyleweir6892 жыл бұрын
@@willjerden7024 wasn't responding to you, but it's bogus that you wouldn't call it because other violations are hard to call. This one wasn't hard, and it should have been called. It was blatant, doesn't take slow motion to see, and would have been very clear in real time. Competitors weren't watching, which they are by rule required to do, that's why it wasn't called.
@billycake58302 жыл бұрын
3:28 didnt look like a foot fault... Yellow marker is still in front of his foot, it's not the line
@chriscarroll64472 жыл бұрын
MA1 and open player here... No one is going to call the stepping on/pushing the disc. Especially since if they marked it at the front of the disc they would have 'gained' no more distance. Step in front? sure. Step ON the disc when it's used as the marker? No way.
@creatorTWin2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had someone call me on that before…. During a fun casual match. I didn’t even flip my disc over on my lie. But ended up touching the disc….lol
@chriscarroll64472 жыл бұрын
@@creatorTWin What division are they? And why did you kick their dog before the round?
@mbarrett992 жыл бұрын
Most people mark the leading edge of the lie with the marker disc. So when he stepped on it, it is advancing his plant foot beyond the lie, which is a foot fault.
@creatorTWin2 жыл бұрын
@@chriscarroll6447 probably open division player …. But man alive…. Bloody doubles round took 4 hours, I could have easily called him on a shot clock violation on every single drive and putt he took. A stealer of joy that one….
@chriscarroll64472 жыл бұрын
@@mbarrett99 Can't use the disc to mark the leading edge of the lie anymore. That's a different penalty before it's even thrown now. Stepping on a mini is one thing. Stepping on the disc as it landed no one really cares.
@bradprice17352 жыл бұрын
Those “tee pads” that are just a part of a walkway shouldn’t be allowed on tour. At least paint a line or something. It makes disc golf look like a joke when you can’t install an actual tee pad.
@larrog84132 жыл бұрын
Or shitty astroturf pads for pro events
@mattaudette95502 жыл бұрын
ironically those are probably some of the pro's preferred tees. brushed concrete is far safer to throw from than the shitty astroturf you see at a lot of courses
@noahlh503 Жыл бұрын
4:46 i’m confused about ezra’s footfault here? is the disc not out of his hand by the time his foot hits the ground?
@noahlh503 Жыл бұрын
nevermind, figured it out.
@calebowen20062 жыл бұрын
The rule has to exist but im glad to see in some of these clips the other pros letting stuff slide. It is a competition, but how much do you really gain by your toe touching a disc or sliding off the front of a tee? It's kinda just mutual respect to not call someone for a slip or being off by 3 inches. If they do it to avoid an obstacle that's different
@Notimp0rtant523 Жыл бұрын
I’m ignoring Ricky’s putt and Conrad’s first put, as well as Jennifer and Paul’s lie misses (no clear advantage). I’m giving courtesy warnings to Ezra and Conrad’s second putt. Everything else gets called.
@kanz0bgz2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should have a quick intro where you go over the rules. I'm seeing a lot of comments of people saying these aren't faults but clearly have never read the rules.
@coryshepherd34952 жыл бұрын
Simon’s “fault” at 45 seconds was a legal throw, watch it at slow speed. He plants his toe on the turf and releases the disc before his foot slides forward off the pad.
@ciretaorg2 жыл бұрын
yeah I even paused it and saw his foot is still the green.
@Kolossikal2 жыл бұрын
I am certain your plant foot has to stay behind the line until the disc is fully out of your hand. So "technically" it was a foot fault. But one that does not ever need to be called. It gave him no advantage of any sort. I think pro's need to called out on more foot faults but some are just ridiculous to call.
@michaelrunge19222 жыл бұрын
His heel is pretty clearly off the pad and on the dirt, but okay.
@ctb2972 жыл бұрын
at the exact point of release...possibly, camera angle is not great.
@Pullapelle2 жыл бұрын
I think that if players are hoping disc golf to be considered a real sport some day they should stop using these sommarstuga rules. If you don’t appreciate your own sport, why should anyone else do that?
@aleclyster72072 жыл бұрын
Wish someone would’ve called it on Climo, dude deserves it for that bs he pulled against Scott Stokely
@KeiAiEm2 жыл бұрын
I think the ones where the players stepped on the lie disc are okayish as if they would have put down the marker instead they would have been legal anyways. Of the tee drives some were okay as the end line was really badly marked and the benefit is really marginal.. I hate jump putts because it's almost impossible to tell without a slo-mo if it's legal or not. So I guess the ones where the player was off by a lot or Erics feeting were the ones that most clearly were footfaults. If the footfault rule was to be taken seriously there really should be a technical referee for every card and they would also handle the OB's and such.
@creatorTWin2 жыл бұрын
Do one on Ganon .. personally timed some 50 secound + putts during LVC
@JesseJ5882 жыл бұрын
Yes. I was losing my mind watching him putt.
@toxicvillain2 жыл бұрын
Who's Ganon?
@Linderovi2 жыл бұрын
Great video once again!
@discblaster92102 жыл бұрын
Yes! I had forgotten about James Conrad tucking and rolling, taking it on the shoulder to try not foot faulting lmao
@AURush952 жыл бұрын
That was absolutely still a foot fault though
@AURush952 жыл бұрын
@David Y they gave him the benefit of the doubt and said he fell "sideways", but he definitely falls forward some. People only don't call it cause most people don't care about technicalities
@GoWithTh3Flow2 жыл бұрын
I'm never calling Conrad out, that man is crazy. He may burn the course down with his rage.
@BaronWorsham2 жыл бұрын
Conrad didn't establish balance before touching in front of his lie
@ctb2972 жыл бұрын
the disc was at rest in the chains before he lands, to me it was a legal put.
@BearenderPR2 жыл бұрын
The PDGA needs to address the "lie/stance" situation. So many times in tournaments things go uncalled because the PDGA's guidelines are so vague.
@YashaKoman Жыл бұрын
Your lie rules is really not that vague
@Steven-bh2be2 жыл бұрын
Shows you need officials cuz none of the players want to call anyone
@pizzaninja.2 жыл бұрын
I died on E.O.'s 😂 Consistency is key. #isthatgood?
@evanvasquez67232 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen way to many foot faults to coins already on 2022 coverage.
@travisfinucane2 жыл бұрын
Ezra's was a step putt off the wrong foot? That one's pretty bad if he didn't have the angle to make the shot with his right foot at the disc.
@Luddevige2 жыл бұрын
Yeah those are the worst.
@zanierrules2 жыл бұрын
It's weird, but both feet were in air when he released the disc. Feel like that qualifies it for 'jump putt', which would be fine.
@Luddevige2 жыл бұрын
@@zanierrules Read the rules :) Here: 802.07 Stance
@zanierrules2 жыл бұрын
@@Luddevige Got it, although it doesn't say it explicitly there, the rule for jump putt is: "Release your putter before your feet leave the ground" which he didn't do anyway Dunno why I thought you could leap in the air and snipe it Lol
@kruksog2 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain the falling putt rule? Thanks in advance!
@patrickholstrom12992 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong but a player putting must not fall forward inside circle one and must establish balance before moving forward. It got harsher last season where they couldn’t even pick up their disc without putting their back leg down to show established balance.
@kruksog2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickholstrom1299 thanks for trying to explain it, regardless of how correct you are. Totally new rule to me. Thank you, sincerely.
@stich212 жыл бұрын
The ones where they barley step on disc don't bother me too much.
@derrickdigiulio40272 жыл бұрын
But the fact they are paying less attention to their footing means they can focus more on the throw. Part of the difficulty of executing a shot is the footing. If they nudge it as their foot turns after they release its one thing, but if they step on the disc they have missed their foot placement.
@michaelhigbee41512 жыл бұрын
@@derrickdigiulio4027 still depends if they flipped the disc, instead of placing a mini, or didn’t move the disc at all, you can step up to the front edge of where the disc landed so if they didn’t flip it’s not a foot fault. Why it’s always a good idea to place a mini or flip the disc
@nathanrobbins24402 жыл бұрын
@@derrickdigiulio4027 literally who cares
@derrickdigiulio40272 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhigbee4151 so you're telling me I should be able to stand on my disc as I putt if I don't mark it? I don't think that would fly.
@derrickdigiulio40272 жыл бұрын
@@nathanrobbins2440 it's a competitive advantage that is super easy to enforce. So why do we not enforce it?
@mizzougrad0012 жыл бұрын
step putt foot faults are my pet peeves. No excuse for them.
@colinmcmasters58192 жыл бұрын
The James Conrad one is not a foot fault. Gotta remember that the hand needs to be CLOSER TO the basket than your lie, and that when it's too close to call, the benefit of the doubt goes to the player.
@patrickstark43102 жыл бұрын
I was gonna look for clarification on that one because for Conrad’s low stance his hand he brought it in close to him body before touching ground for a brief second. If he leaned forward and used him hand as an anchor I can see a fault but he basically punched the ground and pulled back immediately
@DiscoMan3282 жыл бұрын
It was his right foot that was the problem. He moves it back off his mini right before he throws. It made it a lot easier to make that putt.
@Crunchyr1ce2 жыл бұрын
”You need to demonstrate balance behind the lie”, that is not what Conrad demonstrated there.
@joakimbackryd77522 жыл бұрын
@@Crunchyr1ce but that is not the rule... so? :) the rule says "the player must demonstrate full control of balance behind the marker disc before advancing toward the target" key part beeing "before advancing toward the target", so as far as the rules goes you can putt and then fall backwards doing a somersault before you stand up, demonstrate full control of balance and then advance James only commited a stance violation if the hand that touched the ground was in front of the mini
@colinmcmasters58192 жыл бұрын
@@Crunchyr1ce that quote is referring to establishing balance before getting closer to the basket than your lie. That's what we are arguing, whether or not he got closer to the basket than his lie. You can fall backwards or sideways all you want, as long as you don't go closer to the basket than your lie.
@nicklong74422 жыл бұрын
The one of James Conrad is not a foot fault. 1:48. If you make a line parallel to the basket from the disc to the left, I’d say he put his hand behind the line. It was very close to being one but I think he’s well behind it.
@DiscoMan3282 жыл бұрын
I think it was his right foot that slipped back so not a falling putt.
@77nizzova532 жыл бұрын
And they call ricky out. The tee markers were in front of a line, was it the line or the yellow tee markers the line?
@marshin72372 жыл бұрын
How was the Ezra straddle putt a foot fault? Genuinely curious.
@browe0912 жыл бұрын
He step putts with the foot that is the point of contact behind his disc.
@justin_tang2 жыл бұрын
6:44 Did not know this used to be the fifth hole, rather than the seventeenth
@spockhozzer72072 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was tournament hole 17 for that tournament as well. It's course hole 5 I think and Central Coast had a bad habit of using course hole numbers during tournament coverage.
@stevenjones2532 жыл бұрын
I feel that if the tee is a mark lined on the sidewalk, then there should be some caution given as its not an actual tee box you can feel the elevation difference in.
@billma123452 жыл бұрын
What is the rule for conrad tuck n roll? He didn’t touch the ground until the disc was in the basket, is that allowed
@tobiaslid87522 жыл бұрын
Nope, didnt have balance
@wildaman12 жыл бұрын
@@tobiaslid8752did he advance past his lie before demonstrating balance?
@OkejDator2 жыл бұрын
@@tobiaslid8752 You clearly can't read the rules correctly.
@tobiaslid87522 жыл бұрын
@@OkejDator the rule says the following: After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance BEHIND the marker disc before advancing toward the target. A player who fails to do so has committed a stance violation and receives one penalty throw. so this is an obvious footfault
@marshallpeters71742 жыл бұрын
@@tobiaslid8752 Hard to tell with the camera angle, but I'm pretty sure he fell behind the marker. As long as he got back up and demonstrated balance control before advancing to the target, he was fine.
@MattGames8902 жыл бұрын
That Simon one, I wouldn't call. His foot clearly slipped off the tee pad as his shot was released
@droan9992 жыл бұрын
Woulda PGA golfer be given the same benefit if he slipped his putter by accident on a steep green? The answer is no, he’s stroked no questions asked or seconds. We need to adopt their rule format.
@nathanrobbins24402 жыл бұрын
@@droan999 who cares
@MattGames8902 жыл бұрын
@@droan999 im talking about tee shots, which you can accidentally hit your ball off taking oractice strokes in ball golf without a penalty
@jcrohe2 жыл бұрын
@@MattGames890 Regardless. It wasn't a foot fault. He was only making contact with the teepad until the disc was released.
@TroubleLightCoasters2 жыл бұрын
@@droan999 nah being more laid back makes disc golf better than ball golf
@ouch23452 жыл бұрын
4:40 isn’t a foot fault, but great vid man. Ricky was having some major issues that one round lol.
@CABLUb2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking 😅
@mattaudette95502 жыл бұрын
came looking for this comment, thats just a c2 step putt
@josephneal80732 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, his foot that was behind his lie comes off the ground before he releases the disc
@mattaudette95502 жыл бұрын
@@josephneal8073 i see it now, he should have had his right foot on the lie to step putt like that
@broheme89222 жыл бұрын
@1:49 not a fault. Conrad's hand remains behind line of disc.
@GoWithTh3Flow2 жыл бұрын
I would never call out James even if he punched a baby, the man is a madman and a crazed player, no way I'm approaching him.
@discordye48252 жыл бұрын
He's way too unhinged at times...
@Dr.Acula762 жыл бұрын
I've seen him punch a baby, more than once, and I just say nice shot man
@byuidan2 жыл бұрын
@@Unknown-rb3ip it is stuff like this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGa3mXSsqN-GhdU The man just needs to learn to control himself. ;-0
@saemj2 жыл бұрын
I wonder when we'll see a rule change
@danielhaataja72182 жыл бұрын
*roughly 2/3s are ACTUALLY footfaults…* Conrad’s putt, Ezra’s putt and many more were NOT afoot faults
@SmallBoreOutlaw2 жыл бұрын
Ezra lunged forward with the wrong foot in this case
@teraslaakso21442 жыл бұрын
@@SmallBoreOutlaw James first knee putt was legit and if ezra was putting out side 33f...edit ezras jumper was footfault
@Secretbandx2 жыл бұрын
@@teraslaakso2144 when Ezra let go of the disc his only foot touching the ground was his right foot which was 2 feet off to the right of his lie, the correct way would of been if his left foot had to be touching because thats the one behind the lie and his right foot in the air
@teraslaakso21442 жыл бұрын
@@Secretbandx what about Dustins?
@Secretbandx2 жыл бұрын
@@teraslaakso2144 the one at 6:35? If his mini is where his lie is then he is too far out from it with his left foot. I didn't make the video but I'm assuming that's the reason they put it in here
@kyleorr7039 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the foot fault idea along with the rule, should be changed. I’m not sure how to resolve it but for the player to try to imagine where they need to step, considering the area is the size of a sheet of paper as a legal foot plant on a full run up, for a second shot, is kinda silly.
@cyanideg2 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that as long as you have one point of contact on the tee pad when the disc is released, you are ok... Doesnt matter if a foot is off the front. As long as one foot is on the box still. Am I wrong?
@marshallpeters71742 жыл бұрын
Your lead foot has to be in the box. If it slips off the front, it's a fault.
@jjames752 жыл бұрын
yep
@Mr.Brandon.2 жыл бұрын
you guys some of the best original disc golf content
@MuddyPuttersDG2 жыл бұрын
Id probably never call a foot fault.
@blkdrgn11322 жыл бұрын
one point of contact is required upon release. if a bit of your heal is on the tee pad on release then no foot fault. stepping on your disc as long as you have a single point of contact inside your lie, no fault. outside of 10m you do not need to maintain balance, no fault.
@littlewag7 Жыл бұрын
I really think the rule needs to be adjusted to where it must meet a foot fault, and also an agreement that it improved the ability to make the shot. If someone is 2 feet off on a wide open fairway, who cares? If someone is 2 feet off to the left and throwing around a bush? Foot fault.
@danielpenrodii23892 жыл бұрын
That one from James Conrad isn’t a foot fault.
@michaelrunge19222 жыл бұрын
I'm back here because of Nikko in the latest GK Pro Skins match.
@JAK19812 жыл бұрын
I wont call most because most dont even matter. Falling off the tee is not even a big issue, should be more worried someone doesnt break their ankle. As far as falling forward I dont understand why that matters as long as the disc is already released. barely touching your disc shouldnt even be an issue.
@patricktrainor63292 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Conrad’s is a foot fault if he stayed behind his mini; if you fall backwards or to the side I think it’s okay
@saemj2 жыл бұрын
the rule says you must demonstrate balance, i wonder how falling counts as demonstrating balance :D
@OkejDator2 жыл бұрын
@@saemj YOU ARE WRONG. Please read the rules. 806.01: "After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance behind the marker disc before advancing toward the target. A player who fails to do so has committed a stance violation and receives one penalty throw." Notice that balance must be shown before advancing past your lie but you can fall over, get up, demonstrate balance and then advance.
@saemj2 жыл бұрын
@@OkejDator nice caps lock, that must mean you are right, wow i did not see it that way. "After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance" Does that sound like falling over to you? It's not "after you released, fell over, got back up, got to get a beer, drank it, had a good night sleep and then came back the next morning".
@OkejDator2 жыл бұрын
@@saemj Please read the rules.
@saemj2 жыл бұрын
@@OkejDator first you yell at me, now you repeat yourself, are you drunk?
@AndrewPardo2 жыл бұрын
Really not a fan of tee pads not marked well. I feel bad for Ricky on those. They could have at least done a chalk line or highlighted the crack that was the front edge.
@shawnhill47792 жыл бұрын
Sorry Paul ... you were wrong on Simon's drive off the tee. Simon's foot did NOT touch the dirt until after he released the disc 0:45.
@ozzi958 Жыл бұрын
if it is an advantage I will call but 2cm of the tee or something doesn´t make any difference so I would let it slide
@franksnyder363 Жыл бұрын
It seems like intention should be the biggest factor. Was it incidental or an attempt to improve the lie or the line. The one Nikko called on GG was to me not intentional, but his call on Rick was. Sadly he's blamed for trying to get both of the calls right by rule. I think Rick is a great player, but he foot faults in every tournament. An official, not a player on the card, should be handling this.
@77nizzova532 жыл бұрын
Need some kinda rule change maybe, instead of enjoying playing the game, you have to stare at a players feet that's throwing 500ft cause they were an inch too far.. Maybe the size of 2 pieces of paper!!!!!!??????
@bennettbrown20252 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Another reason to make the lie bigger is that we would probably see better shots when you don't have to worry as much where you plant
@Camjutsu2 жыл бұрын
I would like it if the commentators would notice these more. Majority of these foot faults, especially some of the super obvious ones, the commentators said nothing about.
@hankstopher Жыл бұрын
4:50 Ezra is textbook foot fault
@hankstopher Жыл бұрын
And at 5:20 balance isn’t demonstrated after the release of the putt; although the location of his falling shoulder ends up being planted behind plane of the shot…balance after the shot isn’t demonstrated. so, it’s another textbook foot fault.
@threex12 жыл бұрын
Ricky the foot fault king
@mech0p2 жыл бұрын
1st foot fault should be a warning and redo. anything after that should be a penalty. I just think a couple inches most of the time is a dumb reason to stroke someone. Also if you use your disc as a marker and step on it is it really a foot fault because if you set your mini down you would be behind it if you know what im saying.
@MrKevlarkent2 жыл бұрын
so do you not get a penalty stroke for a foot fault?
@waynebryant18572 жыл бұрын
Two people on the card have to see it and call it.
@MrKevlarkent2 жыл бұрын
@@waynebryant1857 it was called a couple times in this video and the person just re-threw, maybe it's a new thing with penalty?
@kmyreng2 жыл бұрын
@@MrKevlarkent Actually, it's because the rules used to say: 802.4 E. A player shall receive a warning for the first stance violation in the round. Subsequent stance violations in the same round shall incur a one-throw penalty. Stance violations may not be called or seconded by the thrower. F. Any throw made from an illegal stance is disregarded. A re-throw must be taken from the original lie, prior to subsequent play by others in the group. (PDGA 2013 Rule Book) This rule was changed in 2018, now the throw counts even if it was a stance violation, but you do get a penalty stroke right away. No more warnings. 802.04 C. A player who violates 802.04.B has committed a stance violation and receives one penalty throw. (PDGA 2018 Rule Book) Some of the clips in this compilation are from before they changed that rule.
@samuraizach4422 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree with what Simon lizotte said about Nikko locastro taking too much time in this foot fault subject. If you call “penalties” for what is minor things (taking a couple more than 30 seconds or your foot being off by less than a foot or inches) it ruins the dynamic of the card and the general friendly nature of the sport. I see foot faults and people taking too long alllllllllllll the time and frankly neither help their game whatsoever.
@MountaindewM2 жыл бұрын
Unless it's horrible I don't call it and I don't play tournaments but in league play if I think it looks a bit bad I'll mention about watching themselves so it isn't a foot fault.
@jeffheyer77832 жыл бұрын
Would have definitely called foot fault but n the girl who did turnover shot. She got an advantage being told far behind her marker. That’s the biggest reason I would call foot fault. Because you give yourself a better angle
@uta07maybe2 жыл бұрын
I play recreationally and never call shit. Chances are one of or all of us are buzzed. It happens to us all. None of it is intentional.
@nautilusshell9402 жыл бұрын
The Conrad tuck and roll was the worst. clearly inside the circle
@steelerfan7862 жыл бұрын
But it matters whether or not he was behind or in front of the lie. The camera angle doesn't really show it, but I have a hard time believing he fell behind his lie.
@RobinBerglundmusic2 жыл бұрын
If the foot gets planted inside but because of the rotation falls over is that really a foot fault?
@lucasmuller80742 жыл бұрын
I assume you are talking for like a throw versus a putt, if so no that isn’t a foot fault. Only have to maintain balance behind your mini inside the circle
@Rattus3752 жыл бұрын
I'm glad most of these weren't called. An inch or too back or ahead of the spot isn't giving any sort of advantage. Same thing with falling during a putt. What's important is that it gets called when it's done intentionally or in a way that helps the player (like shooting back of a lie behind a tree or intentionally jump putting)
@kanz0bgz2 жыл бұрын
Allowing a player to foot fault gives them an advantage. It doesn't matter if the it's intentional, obstructed or wide open. The issue isn't the extra inch or two they gain from their plant foot but the fact that they aren't paying attention to their foot placement. It's a lot harder to throw a long, accurate up shot when you're also making sure you don't fault. Allowing players to fault means you're allowing them to throw less difficult shots than the player who is making sure they don't fault.
@kimmomatikainen18432 жыл бұрын
Could have added basically any jump putt by Paige Pierce. She is flying high when disc leaves her hand.
@kyleweir6892 жыл бұрын
There are so many people in here that learned the rules from their buddy who learned them from their buddy that learned them from their buddy that has never read them. Stance violation rules are very, very simple and very, very plainly written. Read the rules folks. It only takes like 10 minutes.
@Rattus3752 жыл бұрын
Was Ricky's at the beginning a foot fault? Looks like the putt was in before he touched the ground anyways
@AURush952 жыл бұрын
You can not fall forward inside the circle
@chriscarroll64472 жыл бұрын
The wording is "show balance". He never showed balance.
@kanz0bgz2 жыл бұрын
Why are you commenting if you don't even know the rules
@caseywrightsel42772 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t like calling any of these really but Ricky legit foot faulted on every single hole of that tournament lol
@stoneybrookjoe2 жыл бұрын
I think disc golf has an integrity problem. Players need to step up and call foot-faults on themselves when they obviously know they have done one. Just because you didn't call it on one of the other players in the group doesn't mean you should not call it on yourself. I am also amazed at how the announcers, who are usually players themselves miss it so often. If it really doesn't give you an advantage to step on a disc, stand to far from the disc, release from in front of the tee line, etc., then get rid of the rules, otherwise follow them all.
@Gumbo_Time2 жыл бұрын
You're not allowed to call yourself on a foot fault.
@wildaman12 жыл бұрын
@@Gumbo_Time incorrect, you can call yourself on a foot fault. You’re right about prior rules, but that was when a re throw for the first violation was involved.
@zingram32302 жыл бұрын
Let's see, in basketball, football tennis, baseball, soccer pretty much any sport that has defining lines if you cross those lines you suffer a penalty.. Why people in disc golf have this mentality of " oh it's no big deal " doesn't make sense to me. Sports are sports, they have clearly defined lines, rules and fouls that are all applied. If a football doesn't cross the plane of the end zone is it a touchdown? If a 3-pointer in basketball is made with a foot on the line is it a three-pointer? Then a foot fault is a foot fault and a penalty should be called.
@badgerspvcoach2 жыл бұрын
Just watch one round of WPO and you’ll see about 20 foot faults in one round of coverage.
@michaelrunge19222 жыл бұрын
While I'm not bothered by most of these, the rule exists for a reason. Continuing to literally push the line and the card allowing it *at the pro level* is where I have a problem. There were 2 I wouldn't want called, Ricky's log break fall and Conrad's epic effort to fall sideways and not use his hands. Everything else? The rule is there for a reason. I love the casual nature of the sport, but professionals need to be held to the highest standards.
@blkdrgn11322 жыл бұрын
at 5:00 disc hit the chains and came to rest before he fell.
@SharpShooter61912 жыл бұрын
How is Ezra’s a foot fault or almost one? Is it cause he kicks his disc? I didn’t even think he did but that’s the only thing I can think of
@kyleweir6892 жыл бұрын
He picks up the foot that is his supporting point behind the disc...
@jeffheyer77832 жыл бұрын
Simon had an obvious foot fault. Personally I wouldn’t call this one out as it didn’t give him any advantage.
@marshallpeters71742 жыл бұрын
That was only called because it was so obvious. It really shouldn't be so difficult to stay on the tee.
@robertcasko2812 жыл бұрын
Call. Every. One. These people are paid to play the game. They can man up and follow the rules, or man up and take the fault call. Their choice.
@vjacksstacks51502 жыл бұрын
Conrad: stroke!
@evelyneverlasting90388 ай бұрын
Id only call an agregious foot fault
@jwoellhof2 жыл бұрын
You know...with all his over-the-top emotional outbursts and blatant disregard for the rules of Disc Golf, I'm surprised James Conrad is not the most maligned character on tour.
@ronjones-69772 жыл бұрын
After I read a couple comments I changed my mind. ALL of these were definitely foot faults or falling putts. I've been playing tournaments for 33 years. You're not gonna change my mind. Would I call them? Probably not. Would I second them? Yep. I'll back someone up if I see the same thing. I'd like to see jump-putts and step-puts only allowed outside C2, but that's me.
@BadBrucey2 жыл бұрын
It's a frigging rule which is hardly ever called. They need to get 18 volunteer (or paid) refs on each hold to call them.
@volley14142 жыл бұрын
Are you going to pay them?
@byuidan2 жыл бұрын
I am skeptical that 18 refs would be enough or that they would be any better. I think that you would need at least 3 per hole which is pretty much the card. Taking out the personal stake in making a call would have some benefit, but at this point, I think the pros know the rules better than paid or volunteer staff would. Who knows top three cards of a major with refs following... It could happen. Replays? Are we baseball? Personally I would rather see great shots than small rules violations called. With that said major rules violations are hard to watch, which includes a card that doesn't call a major rules violation.
@ultrapail2 жыл бұрын
A couple in there were definitely not ff, and the rest were innocent ff, however Dustin Keegan was blocked off from the other players view so he took an extra mile to give more open area to swing his arm. That’s a DQ in my book
@Luddevige2 жыл бұрын
Paige Pierce does a super clear one here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYLGi59ur9Gbbck
@shiaaaat6662 жыл бұрын
Not one clip of foot fault king Nikko Locastro
@toxicvillain2 жыл бұрын
He has his own compilation.
@johnnycupofcoffee2 жыл бұрын
2.15 and 6.32 were the worst, Those were actually cheaters. The others were just mistakes.
@ianallen21632 жыл бұрын
The 1st one actually wasn't a foot fault. His foot didn't slide off till after he let go of the disc