20 PROFESSIONAL DISC GOLF FOOT FAULTS🚩 Which of these would you call out? Which would you let slide?

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@ThePackMan34
@ThePackMan34 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not calling it unless it makes your shot easier. Toeing your disc debatably makes it a harder shot, with slick footing and/or feeling the disc under-foot as you throw. That shot around the bush that was thrown from several feet away? I'm calling that.
@adamsandqvist6513
@adamsandqvist6513 2 жыл бұрын
This
@jjames75
@jjames75 2 жыл бұрын
All of these faults made their shot easier, because they paid no attention to where they were placing their foot.
@cromandum217
@cromandum217 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjames75 this is the correct answer. people who foot fault have one less thing to think about when making a shot compared to those that dont
@Grannyknockers
@Grannyknockers 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the only one I might call. And even that's iffy. I'm not calling anything unless I think there's intent.
@JamesG761
@JamesG761 2 ай бұрын
Love this
@samxyx
@samxyx 2 жыл бұрын
Worst one to me was the one at 2:18 since she consciously improved her angle by faulting resulting in a significant advantage.
@FRETLESSDOG1
@FRETLESSDOG1 Жыл бұрын
How did she fault?
@samxyx
@samxyx Жыл бұрын
Looks like she's at least 2 feet or more behind her lie when she throws the disc. You're only allowed 30cm (11.8 inches). I forget if the rules were even stricter when that clip was recorded too. The PDGA updated some of it's lie rules around 2022 if I remember correctly. @@FRETLESSDOG1
@discblaster9210
@discblaster9210 2 жыл бұрын
every time I rewind and watch Conrad tuck and roll again, I laugh even harder
@Dr.Acula76
@Dr.Acula76 2 жыл бұрын
Some of Ricky s are confusing. The cracks don't all line up with the tee pad markers. Some he's over the line but still in front of the markers.
@danielpenrodii2389
@danielpenrodii2389 2 жыл бұрын
If your teepad is based off a small line in a sidewalk, I’m not going to ever call somebody on a foot fault unless they’re truly beyond it. If their plant foot initially comes down at the line and as you rotate, it spins over, I won’t call that.
@lucasmuller8074
@lucasmuller8074 2 жыл бұрын
Love Ricky but you guys should watch 2021 goat hill round 3… It was incredible how many foot faults I saw
@GoWithTh3Flow
@GoWithTh3Flow 2 жыл бұрын
Was that the one that Philo called out like 3 of them and was just shaking his head?
@lucasmuller8074
@lucasmuller8074 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoWithTh3Flow he was on commentary and pointed multiple out, it was gnarly
@hoodglasses8237
@hoodglasses8237 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched the whole round and didn't see Rick commit a single foot fault, nor did Philo mention one. Am I stoned?
@lucasmuller8074
@lucasmuller8074 2 жыл бұрын
@@hoodglasses8237 first 3 holes on the B9 he steps on his mini on up shots, the front nine he has a couple totaling about 5-7. Phill calls out another player that round but he really calls him out on the tournament in this video
@TherealPapaDogP
@TherealPapaDogP 2 жыл бұрын
I was there for it in person and have played that course (horribly). The footing is awkward in a few places.
@ethanl4567
@ethanl4567 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't include the worst one I've ever seen, when Nikko called Rick for stepping no closer than 2 feet to his lie.
@derekbroekhoven5498
@derekbroekhoven5498 2 жыл бұрын
That one is always so painful to watch for me. Nikko acts like a complete tool, but he's 100% right. Ricky was so far back from his lie, and it definitely gave him a better angle for the shot, pretty obviously foot fault
@patrickstark4310
@patrickstark4310 2 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this. Nikko just couldn’t let that go though cause nobody else said anything and he was dumbfounded cause Ricky was definitely like 2 feet behind lmfao
@ethanl4567
@ethanl4567 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickstark4310 he could and should have called courtesy on his cardmates for not seeing it, he probably chose not to for fear of getting called for time on putts lol
@MountaindewM
@MountaindewM 2 жыл бұрын
This is the one I was waiting for. Seems some players have a serious issue and are lucky the rules aren't called all the time.
@ethanboyd2981
@ethanboyd2981 2 жыл бұрын
The burden of calling out foot faults shouldn't fall on the competitors themselves in the big tournaments. The DGPT should start having an official that follows each MPO and FPO card around who is in charge of calling any penalties. That would help legitimize the sport.
@Gennys
@Gennys Жыл бұрын
I have to disagree a little bit. It should still require at least one other player and an official call as well. Either two players, or a player and official. This gives some completely fine room for players to not second an official if they are being anal.
@dylandog1289
@dylandog1289 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is thats how newcomers ASSUME faults are handled. I remember when i found out the players are responsible i couldnt believe it.
@JB77776
@JB77776 Жыл бұрын
Officials being in disc golf would only increase the amount of people that get hurt by inconsistent calls. These people are human and they will get calls wrong. Even with video evidence. Officials will decide who wins. It happens in every sport that has some type of ref. Any player that has any level of respect isn't calling a fault on someone that is fighting for the win. unless it's really obvious.
@gregorypellar1555
@gregorypellar1555 Жыл бұрын
I call one foot fault in a tournament, which was clear and everybody else laughed it off. I did not call anymore even tough it was continuing problem. I think something needs to change
@ajfarber4805
@ajfarber4805 2 жыл бұрын
The Log that ricky was on broke. That’s pretty unlucky. No way to hold that
@Kolossikal
@Kolossikal 2 жыл бұрын
That Is one I would let slide, If you are not allowed to move the debris for a better foot stance, then you would have to be pretty shitty to call that when the debris breaks under you after you have released the disc.
@marshallpeters7174
@marshallpeters7174 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kolossikal If the debris is not attached, you can move it. That was a pretty big log, though.
@MattGames890
@MattGames890 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very ok with foot faults that involve heel slipping and touching the disc or so for big shots, but putting faults you get one freebie with me unless it is aggregious
@ImmanuelWoodworking
@ImmanuelWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
👌🏼
@ryanmiller3466
@ryanmiller3466 2 жыл бұрын
This is the way
@dust-yo
@dust-yo 2 жыл бұрын
You're only giving free passes so I don't call yours on every hole. 😉
@MattGames890
@MattGames890 2 жыл бұрын
@@dust-yo it's the only way I get distance
@BallisticBerry
@BallisticBerry 2 жыл бұрын
7:30 that one is real rich considering what he did to stokely
@LeftySupreme
@LeftySupreme 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie I find myself feeling lucky a lot of the time on Par 4’s that I didn’t foot fault. Doing a full run up for a second shot from the fairway with a specific spot to plant your foot, unlike the tee pad, is actually kinda difficult. Especially when you turn your head to throw. Like I said for me a lot of the time it feels like luck that I managed to get my foot in the right spot.
@jacksonpalmer8955
@jacksonpalmer8955 2 жыл бұрын
There’s something to be said for working on your footwork and knowing exactly how to plant your feet
@derekbroekhoven5498
@derekbroekhoven5498 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonpalmer8955 couldn't agree more. A good way I heard it put was that it puts the players that are actually following the rules at something of a disadvantage, because they're thinking about multiple things at once
@spockhozzer7207
@spockhozzer7207 2 жыл бұрын
I'm the opposite. It's easy for me to plant legally in the fairway. On the tee I get anxiety about slipping off the front of the box or hitting the worn down spot that everyone steps on
@KankleBaby
@KankleBaby 2 жыл бұрын
@@spockhozzer7207 thank you for saying this. I have the exact same problem. I shortened my run up but I still get anxious on the tee pad. The rolled ankle, gnarly butt cheek welt, and plenty of close calls are always in the back of my mind when teeing off.
@JonReid01
@JonReid01 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonpalmer8955 not really becuase no one calls it anyway 😅
@patrickstark4310
@patrickstark4310 2 жыл бұрын
4:58 James Conrad’s effort to avoid using him Hands to fall is just incredible. 👏
@jamesthompson424
@jamesthompson424 2 жыл бұрын
Count me in the "who gives a crap" category on most of these. I would only care on putts in the circle and situations where the foot fault is obviously trying to gain an advantage (get further away from an obstacle).
@Allurex
@Allurex 2 жыл бұрын
The main issue with most of these is that a player gains an advantage by not bothering to worry where they plant their feet on their throws. Not an advantage by being 6 inches one direction or another.
@steelerfan786
@steelerfan786 2 жыл бұрын
@@Allurex 👏🙌
@jjames75
@jjames75 2 жыл бұрын
@@Allurex Exactly. A player who is concerned with faulting on an open field shot is at a distinct disadvantage vs. a player who assumes he won't get called and doesn't give a shit where he puts his foot.
@tjmcgough5333
@tjmcgough5333 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re thinking about where your foot is landing you should stick to ball golf.
@jjames75
@jjames75 2 жыл бұрын
@@tjmcgough5333 and if you aren't thinking about it and you foot fault, you should be called.
@dillonspellman4912
@dillonspellman4912 2 жыл бұрын
James' putt and the drive after it are both absolutely legal Edit: I was referring to the first one, but both are legal
@markforsyth2087
@markforsyth2087 2 жыл бұрын
That upshot putt from behind the tree was pretty bad, definitely would call that one.
@billlavine3429
@billlavine3429 2 жыл бұрын
How was ezras a ff? He released before his foot touched down
@markkeffer1072
@markkeffer1072 2 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing!
@willjerden7024
@willjerden7024 2 жыл бұрын
The rule is there has to be a supporting point behind the lie inside the "paper" the square behind the disc. Ezra's was a foot fault because he lifted his contact behind the lie (left foot) before he released his disc. I wouldn't have called it, cause if you slow it down almost all jump putts are foot faults.
@kyleweir689
@kyleweir689 2 жыл бұрын
This is a super common misconception that comes from not reading the rules thoroughly. It's about the foot that's creating a stance in his lie area, not about the foot stepping through and touching the ground. Sometimes (Paul Ulibarri we're looking at you) it's about the front foot, but almost always the stance violation (not "foot fault") is with the foot at the mini
@willjerden7024
@willjerden7024 2 жыл бұрын
@@kyleweir689 Semantics, by rule Erza's was still a stance violation, or "foot fault", by whatever name you call it. If you follow the black and white letter of the rule. However as I stated, still wouldn't have called him on it, as likely wouldn't have seen it in real time.
@kyleweir689
@kyleweir689 2 жыл бұрын
@@willjerden7024 wasn't responding to you, but it's bogus that you wouldn't call it because other violations are hard to call. This one wasn't hard, and it should have been called. It was blatant, doesn't take slow motion to see, and would have been very clear in real time. Competitors weren't watching, which they are by rule required to do, that's why it wasn't called.
@billycake5830
@billycake5830 2 жыл бұрын
3:28 didnt look like a foot fault... Yellow marker is still in front of his foot, it's not the line
@chriscarroll6447
@chriscarroll6447 2 жыл бұрын
MA1 and open player here... No one is going to call the stepping on/pushing the disc. Especially since if they marked it at the front of the disc they would have 'gained' no more distance. Step in front? sure. Step ON the disc when it's used as the marker? No way.
@creatorTWin
@creatorTWin 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had someone call me on that before…. During a fun casual match. I didn’t even flip my disc over on my lie. But ended up touching the disc….lol
@chriscarroll6447
@chriscarroll6447 2 жыл бұрын
@@creatorTWin What division are they? And why did you kick their dog before the round?
@mbarrett99
@mbarrett99 2 жыл бұрын
Most people mark the leading edge of the lie with the marker disc. So when he stepped on it, it is advancing his plant foot beyond the lie, which is a foot fault.
@creatorTWin
@creatorTWin 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriscarroll6447 probably open division player …. But man alive…. Bloody doubles round took 4 hours, I could have easily called him on a shot clock violation on every single drive and putt he took. A stealer of joy that one….
@chriscarroll6447
@chriscarroll6447 2 жыл бұрын
@@mbarrett99 Can't use the disc to mark the leading edge of the lie anymore. That's a different penalty before it's even thrown now. Stepping on a mini is one thing. Stepping on the disc as it landed no one really cares.
@bradprice1735
@bradprice1735 2 жыл бұрын
Those “tee pads” that are just a part of a walkway shouldn’t be allowed on tour. At least paint a line or something. It makes disc golf look like a joke when you can’t install an actual tee pad.
@larrog8413
@larrog8413 2 жыл бұрын
Or shitty astroturf pads for pro events
@mattaudette9550
@mattaudette9550 2 жыл бұрын
ironically those are probably some of the pro's preferred tees. brushed concrete is far safer to throw from than the shitty astroturf you see at a lot of courses
@noahlh503
@noahlh503 Жыл бұрын
4:46 i’m confused about ezra’s footfault here? is the disc not out of his hand by the time his foot hits the ground?
@noahlh503
@noahlh503 Жыл бұрын
nevermind, figured it out.
@calebowen2006
@calebowen2006 2 жыл бұрын
The rule has to exist but im glad to see in some of these clips the other pros letting stuff slide. It is a competition, but how much do you really gain by your toe touching a disc or sliding off the front of a tee? It's kinda just mutual respect to not call someone for a slip or being off by 3 inches. If they do it to avoid an obstacle that's different
@Notimp0rtant523
@Notimp0rtant523 Жыл бұрын
I’m ignoring Ricky’s putt and Conrad’s first put, as well as Jennifer and Paul’s lie misses (no clear advantage). I’m giving courtesy warnings to Ezra and Conrad’s second putt. Everything else gets called.
@kanz0bgz
@kanz0bgz 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should have a quick intro where you go over the rules. I'm seeing a lot of comments of people saying these aren't faults but clearly have never read the rules.
@coryshepherd3495
@coryshepherd3495 2 жыл бұрын
Simon’s “fault” at 45 seconds was a legal throw, watch it at slow speed. He plants his toe on the turf and releases the disc before his foot slides forward off the pad.
@ciretaorg
@ciretaorg 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I even paused it and saw his foot is still the green.
@Kolossikal
@Kolossikal 2 жыл бұрын
I am certain your plant foot has to stay behind the line until the disc is fully out of your hand. So "technically" it was a foot fault. But one that does not ever need to be called. It gave him no advantage of any sort. I think pro's need to called out on more foot faults but some are just ridiculous to call.
@michaelrunge1922
@michaelrunge1922 2 жыл бұрын
His heel is pretty clearly off the pad and on the dirt, but okay.
@ctb297
@ctb297 2 жыл бұрын
at the exact point of release...possibly, camera angle is not great.
@Pullapelle
@Pullapelle 2 жыл бұрын
I think that if players are hoping disc golf to be considered a real sport some day they should stop using these sommarstuga rules. If you don’t appreciate your own sport, why should anyone else do that?
@aleclyster7207
@aleclyster7207 2 жыл бұрын
Wish someone would’ve called it on Climo, dude deserves it for that bs he pulled against Scott Stokely
@KeiAiEm
@KeiAiEm 2 жыл бұрын
I think the ones where the players stepped on the lie disc are okayish as if they would have put down the marker instead they would have been legal anyways. Of the tee drives some were okay as the end line was really badly marked and the benefit is really marginal.. I hate jump putts because it's almost impossible to tell without a slo-mo if it's legal or not. So I guess the ones where the player was off by a lot or Erics feeting were the ones that most clearly were footfaults. If the footfault rule was to be taken seriously there really should be a technical referee for every card and they would also handle the OB's and such.
@creatorTWin
@creatorTWin 2 жыл бұрын
Do one on Ganon .. personally timed some 50 secound + putts during LVC
@JesseJ588
@JesseJ588 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I was losing my mind watching him putt.
@toxicvillain
@toxicvillain 2 жыл бұрын
Who's Ganon?
@Linderovi
@Linderovi 2 жыл бұрын
Great video once again!
@discblaster9210
@discblaster9210 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I had forgotten about James Conrad tucking and rolling, taking it on the shoulder to try not foot faulting lmao
@AURush95
@AURush95 2 жыл бұрын
That was absolutely still a foot fault though
@AURush95
@AURush95 2 жыл бұрын
@David Y they gave him the benefit of the doubt and said he fell "sideways", but he definitely falls forward some. People only don't call it cause most people don't care about technicalities
@GoWithTh3Flow
@GoWithTh3Flow 2 жыл бұрын
I'm never calling Conrad out, that man is crazy. He may burn the course down with his rage.
@BaronWorsham
@BaronWorsham 2 жыл бұрын
Conrad didn't establish balance before touching in front of his lie
@ctb297
@ctb297 2 жыл бұрын
the disc was at rest in the chains before he lands, to me it was a legal put.
@BearenderPR
@BearenderPR 2 жыл бұрын
The PDGA needs to address the "lie/stance" situation. So many times in tournaments things go uncalled because the PDGA's guidelines are so vague.
@YashaKoman
@YashaKoman Жыл бұрын
Your lie rules is really not that vague
@Steven-bh2be
@Steven-bh2be 2 жыл бұрын
Shows you need officials cuz none of the players want to call anyone
@pizzaninja.
@pizzaninja. 2 жыл бұрын
I died on E.O.'s 😂 Consistency is key. #isthatgood?
@evanvasquez6723
@evanvasquez6723 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen way to many foot faults to coins already on 2022 coverage.
@travisfinucane
@travisfinucane 2 жыл бұрын
Ezra's was a step putt off the wrong foot? That one's pretty bad if he didn't have the angle to make the shot with his right foot at the disc.
@Luddevige
@Luddevige 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah those are the worst.
@zanierrules
@zanierrules 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird, but both feet were in air when he released the disc. Feel like that qualifies it for 'jump putt', which would be fine.
@Luddevige
@Luddevige 2 жыл бұрын
@@zanierrules Read the rules :) Here: 802.07 Stance
@zanierrules
@zanierrules 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luddevige Got it, although it doesn't say it explicitly there, the rule for jump putt is:​ "Release your putter before your feet leave the ground" which he didn't do anyway Dunno why I thought you could leap in the air and snipe it Lol
@kruksog
@kruksog 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain the falling putt rule? Thanks in advance!
@patrickholstrom1299
@patrickholstrom1299 2 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong but a player putting must not fall forward inside circle one and must establish balance before moving forward. It got harsher last season where they couldn’t even pick up their disc without putting their back leg down to show established balance.
@kruksog
@kruksog 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickholstrom1299 thanks for trying to explain it, regardless of how correct you are. Totally new rule to me. Thank you, sincerely.
@stich21
@stich21 2 жыл бұрын
The ones where they barley step on disc don't bother me too much.
@derrickdigiulio4027
@derrickdigiulio4027 2 жыл бұрын
But the fact they are paying less attention to their footing means they can focus more on the throw. Part of the difficulty of executing a shot is the footing. If they nudge it as their foot turns after they release its one thing, but if they step on the disc they have missed their foot placement.
@michaelhigbee4151
@michaelhigbee4151 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickdigiulio4027 still depends if they flipped the disc, instead of placing a mini, or didn’t move the disc at all, you can step up to the front edge of where the disc landed so if they didn’t flip it’s not a foot fault. Why it’s always a good idea to place a mini or flip the disc
@nathanrobbins2440
@nathanrobbins2440 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickdigiulio4027 literally who cares
@derrickdigiulio4027
@derrickdigiulio4027 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhigbee4151 so you're telling me I should be able to stand on my disc as I putt if I don't mark it? I don't think that would fly.
@derrickdigiulio4027
@derrickdigiulio4027 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanrobbins2440 it's a competitive advantage that is super easy to enforce. So why do we not enforce it?
@mizzougrad001
@mizzougrad001 2 жыл бұрын
step putt foot faults are my pet peeves. No excuse for them.
@colinmcmasters5819
@colinmcmasters5819 2 жыл бұрын
The James Conrad one is not a foot fault. Gotta remember that the hand needs to be CLOSER TO the basket than your lie, and that when it's too close to call, the benefit of the doubt goes to the player.
@patrickstark4310
@patrickstark4310 2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna look for clarification on that one because for Conrad’s low stance his hand he brought it in close to him body before touching ground for a brief second. If he leaned forward and used him hand as an anchor I can see a fault but he basically punched the ground and pulled back immediately
@DiscoMan328
@DiscoMan328 2 жыл бұрын
It was his right foot that was the problem. He moves it back off his mini right before he throws. It made it a lot easier to make that putt.
@Crunchyr1ce
@Crunchyr1ce 2 жыл бұрын
”You need to demonstrate balance behind the lie”, that is not what Conrad demonstrated there.
@joakimbackryd7752
@joakimbackryd7752 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Crunchyr1ce but that is not the rule... so? :) the rule says "the player must demonstrate full control of balance behind the marker disc before advancing toward the target" key part beeing "before advancing toward the target", so as far as the rules goes you can putt and then fall backwards doing a somersault before you stand up, demonstrate full control of balance and then advance James only commited a stance violation if the hand that touched the ground was in front of the mini
@colinmcmasters5819
@colinmcmasters5819 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crunchyr1ce that quote is referring to establishing balance before getting closer to the basket than your lie. That's what we are arguing, whether or not he got closer to the basket than his lie. You can fall backwards or sideways all you want, as long as you don't go closer to the basket than your lie.
@nicklong7442
@nicklong7442 2 жыл бұрын
The one of James Conrad is not a foot fault. 1:48. If you make a line parallel to the basket from the disc to the left, I’d say he put his hand behind the line. It was very close to being one but I think he’s well behind it.
@DiscoMan328
@DiscoMan328 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was his right foot that slipped back so not a falling putt.
@77nizzova53
@77nizzova53 2 жыл бұрын
And they call ricky out. The tee markers were in front of a line, was it the line or the yellow tee markers the line?
@marshin7237
@marshin7237 2 жыл бұрын
How was the Ezra straddle putt a foot fault? Genuinely curious.
@browe091
@browe091 2 жыл бұрын
He step putts with the foot that is the point of contact behind his disc.
@justin_tang
@justin_tang 2 жыл бұрын
6:44 Did not know this used to be the fifth hole, rather than the seventeenth
@spockhozzer7207
@spockhozzer7207 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was tournament hole 17 for that tournament as well. It's course hole 5 I think and Central Coast had a bad habit of using course hole numbers during tournament coverage.
@stevenjones253
@stevenjones253 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that if the tee is a mark lined on the sidewalk, then there should be some caution given as its not an actual tee box you can feel the elevation difference in.
@billma12345
@billma12345 2 жыл бұрын
What is the rule for conrad tuck n roll? He didn’t touch the ground until the disc was in the basket, is that allowed
@tobiaslid8752
@tobiaslid8752 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, didnt have balance
@wildaman1
@wildaman1 2 жыл бұрын
@@tobiaslid8752did he advance past his lie before demonstrating balance?
@OkejDator
@OkejDator 2 жыл бұрын
@@tobiaslid8752 You clearly can't read the rules correctly.
@tobiaslid8752
@tobiaslid8752 2 жыл бұрын
​@@OkejDator the rule says the following: After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance BEHIND the marker disc before advancing toward the target. A player who fails to do so has committed a stance violation and receives one penalty throw. so this is an obvious footfault
@marshallpeters7174
@marshallpeters7174 2 жыл бұрын
@@tobiaslid8752 Hard to tell with the camera angle, but I'm pretty sure he fell behind the marker. As long as he got back up and demonstrated balance control before advancing to the target, he was fine.
@MattGames890
@MattGames890 2 жыл бұрын
That Simon one, I wouldn't call. His foot clearly slipped off the tee pad as his shot was released
@droan999
@droan999 2 жыл бұрын
Woulda PGA golfer be given the same benefit if he slipped his putter by accident on a steep green? The answer is no, he’s stroked no questions asked or seconds. We need to adopt their rule format.
@nathanrobbins2440
@nathanrobbins2440 2 жыл бұрын
@@droan999 who cares
@MattGames890
@MattGames890 2 жыл бұрын
@@droan999 im talking about tee shots, which you can accidentally hit your ball off taking oractice strokes in ball golf without a penalty
@jcrohe
@jcrohe 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattGames890 Regardless. It wasn't a foot fault. He was only making contact with the teepad until the disc was released.
@TroubleLightCoasters
@TroubleLightCoasters 2 жыл бұрын
@@droan999 nah being more laid back makes disc golf better than ball golf
@ouch2345
@ouch2345 2 жыл бұрын
4:40 isn’t a foot fault, but great vid man. Ricky was having some major issues that one round lol.
@CABLUb
@CABLUb 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking 😅
@mattaudette9550
@mattaudette9550 2 жыл бұрын
came looking for this comment, thats just a c2 step putt
@josephneal8073
@josephneal8073 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, his foot that was behind his lie comes off the ground before he releases the disc
@mattaudette9550
@mattaudette9550 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephneal8073 i see it now, he should have had his right foot on the lie to step putt like that
@broheme8922
@broheme8922 2 жыл бұрын
@1:49 not a fault. Conrad's hand remains behind line of disc.
@GoWithTh3Flow
@GoWithTh3Flow 2 жыл бұрын
I would never call out James even if he punched a baby, the man is a madman and a crazed player, no way I'm approaching him.
@discordye4825
@discordye4825 2 жыл бұрын
He's way too unhinged at times...
@Dr.Acula76
@Dr.Acula76 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen him punch a baby, more than once, and I just say nice shot man
@byuidan
@byuidan 2 жыл бұрын
@@Unknown-rb3ip it is stuff like this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGa3mXSsqN-GhdU The man just needs to learn to control himself. ;-0
@saemj
@saemj 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder when we'll see a rule change
@danielhaataja7218
@danielhaataja7218 2 жыл бұрын
*roughly 2/3s are ACTUALLY footfaults…* Conrad’s putt, Ezra’s putt and many more were NOT afoot faults
@SmallBoreOutlaw
@SmallBoreOutlaw 2 жыл бұрын
Ezra lunged forward with the wrong foot in this case
@teraslaakso2144
@teraslaakso2144 2 жыл бұрын
@@SmallBoreOutlaw James first knee putt was legit and if ezra was putting out side 33f...edit ezras jumper was footfault
@Secretbandx
@Secretbandx 2 жыл бұрын
@@teraslaakso2144 when Ezra let go of the disc his only foot touching the ground was his right foot which was 2 feet off to the right of his lie, the correct way would of been if his left foot had to be touching because thats the one behind the lie and his right foot in the air
@teraslaakso2144
@teraslaakso2144 2 жыл бұрын
@@Secretbandx what about Dustins?
@Secretbandx
@Secretbandx 2 жыл бұрын
@@teraslaakso2144 the one at 6:35? If his mini is where his lie is then he is too far out from it with his left foot. I didn't make the video but I'm assuming that's the reason they put it in here
@kyleorr7039
@kyleorr7039 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the foot fault idea along with the rule, should be changed. I’m not sure how to resolve it but for the player to try to imagine where they need to step, considering the area is the size of a sheet of paper as a legal foot plant on a full run up, for a second shot, is kinda silly.
@cyanideg
@cyanideg 2 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that as long as you have one point of contact on the tee pad when the disc is released, you are ok... Doesnt matter if a foot is off the front. As long as one foot is on the box still. Am I wrong?
@marshallpeters7174
@marshallpeters7174 2 жыл бұрын
Your lead foot has to be in the box. If it slips off the front, it's a fault.
@jjames75
@jjames75 2 жыл бұрын
yep
@Mr.Brandon.
@Mr.Brandon. 2 жыл бұрын
you guys some of the best original disc golf content
@MuddyPuttersDG
@MuddyPuttersDG 2 жыл бұрын
Id probably never call a foot fault.
@blkdrgn1132
@blkdrgn1132 2 жыл бұрын
one point of contact is required upon release. if a bit of your heal is on the tee pad on release then no foot fault. stepping on your disc as long as you have a single point of contact inside your lie, no fault. outside of 10m you do not need to maintain balance, no fault.
@littlewag7
@littlewag7 Жыл бұрын
I really think the rule needs to be adjusted to where it must meet a foot fault, and also an agreement that it improved the ability to make the shot. If someone is 2 feet off on a wide open fairway, who cares? If someone is 2 feet off to the left and throwing around a bush? Foot fault.
@danielpenrodii2389
@danielpenrodii2389 2 жыл бұрын
That one from James Conrad isn’t a foot fault.
@michaelrunge1922
@michaelrunge1922 2 жыл бұрын
I'm back here because of Nikko in the latest GK Pro Skins match.
@JAK1981
@JAK1981 2 жыл бұрын
I wont call most because most dont even matter. Falling off the tee is not even a big issue, should be more worried someone doesnt break their ankle. As far as falling forward I dont understand why that matters as long as the disc is already released. barely touching your disc shouldnt even be an issue.
@patricktrainor6329
@patricktrainor6329 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Conrad’s is a foot fault if he stayed behind his mini; if you fall backwards or to the side I think it’s okay
@saemj
@saemj 2 жыл бұрын
the rule says you must demonstrate balance, i wonder how falling counts as demonstrating balance :D
@OkejDator
@OkejDator 2 жыл бұрын
@@saemj YOU ARE WRONG. Please read the rules. 806.01: "After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance behind the marker disc before advancing toward the target. A player who fails to do so has committed a stance violation and receives one penalty throw." Notice that balance must be shown before advancing past your lie but you can fall over, get up, demonstrate balance and then advance.
@saemj
@saemj 2 жыл бұрын
@@OkejDator nice caps lock, that must mean you are right, wow i did not see it that way. "After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance" Does that sound like falling over to you? It's not "after you released, fell over, got back up, got to get a beer, drank it, had a good night sleep and then came back the next morning".
@OkejDator
@OkejDator 2 жыл бұрын
@@saemj Please read the rules.
@saemj
@saemj 2 жыл бұрын
@@OkejDator first you yell at me, now you repeat yourself, are you drunk?
@AndrewPardo
@AndrewPardo 2 жыл бұрын
Really not a fan of tee pads not marked well. I feel bad for Ricky on those. They could have at least done a chalk line or highlighted the crack that was the front edge.
@shawnhill4779
@shawnhill4779 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Paul ... you were wrong on Simon's drive off the tee. Simon's foot did NOT touch the dirt until after he released the disc 0:45.
@ozzi958
@ozzi958 Жыл бұрын
if it is an advantage I will call but 2cm of the tee or something doesn´t make any difference so I would let it slide
@franksnyder363
@franksnyder363 Жыл бұрын
It seems like intention should be the biggest factor. Was it incidental or an attempt to improve the lie or the line. The one Nikko called on GG was to me not intentional, but his call on Rick was. Sadly he's blamed for trying to get both of the calls right by rule. I think Rick is a great player, but he foot faults in every tournament. An official, not a player on the card, should be handling this.
@77nizzova53
@77nizzova53 2 жыл бұрын
Need some kinda rule change maybe, instead of enjoying playing the game, you have to stare at a players feet that's throwing 500ft cause they were an inch too far.. Maybe the size of 2 pieces of paper!!!!!!??????
@bennettbrown2025
@bennettbrown2025 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Another reason to make the lie bigger is that we would probably see better shots when you don't have to worry as much where you plant
@Camjutsu
@Camjutsu 2 жыл бұрын
I would like it if the commentators would notice these more. Majority of these foot faults, especially some of the super obvious ones, the commentators said nothing about.
@hankstopher
@hankstopher Жыл бұрын
4:50 Ezra is textbook foot fault
@hankstopher
@hankstopher Жыл бұрын
And at 5:20 balance isn’t demonstrated after the release of the putt; although the location of his falling shoulder ends up being planted behind plane of the shot…balance after the shot isn’t demonstrated. so, it’s another textbook foot fault.
@threex1
@threex1 2 жыл бұрын
Ricky the foot fault king
@mech0p
@mech0p 2 жыл бұрын
1st foot fault should be a warning and redo. anything after that should be a penalty. I just think a couple inches most of the time is a dumb reason to stroke someone. Also if you use your disc as a marker and step on it is it really a foot fault because if you set your mini down you would be behind it if you know what im saying.
@MrKevlarkent
@MrKevlarkent 2 жыл бұрын
so do you not get a penalty stroke for a foot fault?
@waynebryant1857
@waynebryant1857 2 жыл бұрын
Two people on the card have to see it and call it.
@MrKevlarkent
@MrKevlarkent 2 жыл бұрын
@@waynebryant1857 it was called a couple times in this video and the person just re-threw, maybe it's a new thing with penalty?
@kmyreng
@kmyreng 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrKevlarkent Actually, it's because the rules used to say: 802.4 E. A player shall receive a warning for the first stance violation in the round. Subsequent stance violations in the same round shall incur a one-throw penalty. Stance violations may not be called or seconded by the thrower. F. Any throw made from an illegal stance is disregarded. A re-throw must be taken from the original lie, prior to subsequent play by others in the group. (PDGA 2013 Rule Book) This rule was changed in 2018, now the throw counts even if it was a stance violation, but you do get a penalty stroke right away. No more warnings. 802.04 C. A player who violates 802.04.B has committed a stance violation and receives one penalty throw. (PDGA 2018 Rule Book) Some of the clips in this compilation are from before they changed that rule.
@samuraizach442
@samuraizach442 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree with what Simon lizotte said about Nikko locastro taking too much time in this foot fault subject. If you call “penalties” for what is minor things (taking a couple more than 30 seconds or your foot being off by less than a foot or inches) it ruins the dynamic of the card and the general friendly nature of the sport. I see foot faults and people taking too long alllllllllllll the time and frankly neither help their game whatsoever.
@MountaindewM
@MountaindewM 2 жыл бұрын
Unless it's horrible I don't call it and I don't play tournaments but in league play if I think it looks a bit bad I'll mention about watching themselves so it isn't a foot fault.
@jeffheyer7783
@jeffheyer7783 2 жыл бұрын
Would have definitely called foot fault but n the girl who did turnover shot. She got an advantage being told far behind her marker. That’s the biggest reason I would call foot fault. Because you give yourself a better angle
@uta07maybe
@uta07maybe 2 жыл бұрын
I play recreationally and never call shit. Chances are one of or all of us are buzzed. It happens to us all. None of it is intentional.
@nautilusshell940
@nautilusshell940 2 жыл бұрын
The Conrad tuck and roll was the worst. clearly inside the circle
@steelerfan786
@steelerfan786 2 жыл бұрын
But it matters whether or not he was behind or in front of the lie. The camera angle doesn't really show it, but I have a hard time believing he fell behind his lie.
@RobinBerglundmusic
@RobinBerglundmusic 2 жыл бұрын
If the foot gets planted inside but because of the rotation falls over is that really a foot fault?
@lucasmuller8074
@lucasmuller8074 2 жыл бұрын
I assume you are talking for like a throw versus a putt, if so no that isn’t a foot fault. Only have to maintain balance behind your mini inside the circle
@Rattus375
@Rattus375 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad most of these weren't called. An inch or too back or ahead of the spot isn't giving any sort of advantage. Same thing with falling during a putt. What's important is that it gets called when it's done intentionally or in a way that helps the player (like shooting back of a lie behind a tree or intentionally jump putting)
@kanz0bgz
@kanz0bgz 2 жыл бұрын
Allowing a player to foot fault gives them an advantage. It doesn't matter if the it's intentional, obstructed or wide open. The issue isn't the extra inch or two they gain from their plant foot but the fact that they aren't paying attention to their foot placement. It's a lot harder to throw a long, accurate up shot when you're also making sure you don't fault. Allowing players to fault means you're allowing them to throw less difficult shots than the player who is making sure they don't fault.
@kimmomatikainen1843
@kimmomatikainen1843 2 жыл бұрын
Could have added basically any jump putt by Paige Pierce. She is flying high when disc leaves her hand.
@kyleweir689
@kyleweir689 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many people in here that learned the rules from their buddy who learned them from their buddy that learned them from their buddy that has never read them. Stance violation rules are very, very simple and very, very plainly written. Read the rules folks. It only takes like 10 minutes.
@Rattus375
@Rattus375 2 жыл бұрын
Was Ricky's at the beginning a foot fault? Looks like the putt was in before he touched the ground anyways
@AURush95
@AURush95 2 жыл бұрын
You can not fall forward inside the circle
@chriscarroll6447
@chriscarroll6447 2 жыл бұрын
The wording is "show balance". He never showed balance.
@kanz0bgz
@kanz0bgz 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you commenting if you don't even know the rules
@caseywrightsel4277
@caseywrightsel4277 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t like calling any of these really but Ricky legit foot faulted on every single hole of that tournament lol
@stoneybrookjoe
@stoneybrookjoe 2 жыл бұрын
I think disc golf has an integrity problem. Players need to step up and call foot-faults on themselves when they obviously know they have done one. Just because you didn't call it on one of the other players in the group doesn't mean you should not call it on yourself. I am also amazed at how the announcers, who are usually players themselves miss it so often. If it really doesn't give you an advantage to step on a disc, stand to far from the disc, release from in front of the tee line, etc., then get rid of the rules, otherwise follow them all.
@Gumbo_Time
@Gumbo_Time 2 жыл бұрын
You're not allowed to call yourself on a foot fault.
@wildaman1
@wildaman1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gumbo_Time incorrect, you can call yourself on a foot fault. You’re right about prior rules, but that was when a re throw for the first violation was involved.
@zingram3230
@zingram3230 2 жыл бұрын
Let's see, in basketball, football tennis, baseball, soccer pretty much any sport that has defining lines if you cross those lines you suffer a penalty.. Why people in disc golf have this mentality of " oh it's no big deal " doesn't make sense to me. Sports are sports, they have clearly defined lines, rules and fouls that are all applied. If a football doesn't cross the plane of the end zone is it a touchdown? If a 3-pointer in basketball is made with a foot on the line is it a three-pointer? Then a foot fault is a foot fault and a penalty should be called.
@badgerspvcoach
@badgerspvcoach 2 жыл бұрын
Just watch one round of WPO and you’ll see about 20 foot faults in one round of coverage.
@michaelrunge1922
@michaelrunge1922 2 жыл бұрын
While I'm not bothered by most of these, the rule exists for a reason. Continuing to literally push the line and the card allowing it *at the pro level* is where I have a problem. There were 2 I wouldn't want called, Ricky's log break fall and Conrad's epic effort to fall sideways and not use his hands. Everything else? The rule is there for a reason. I love the casual nature of the sport, but professionals need to be held to the highest standards.
@blkdrgn1132
@blkdrgn1132 2 жыл бұрын
at 5:00 disc hit the chains and came to rest before he fell.
@SharpShooter6191
@SharpShooter6191 2 жыл бұрын
How is Ezra’s a foot fault or almost one? Is it cause he kicks his disc? I didn’t even think he did but that’s the only thing I can think of
@kyleweir689
@kyleweir689 2 жыл бұрын
He picks up the foot that is his supporting point behind the disc...
@jeffheyer7783
@jeffheyer7783 2 жыл бұрын
Simon had an obvious foot fault. Personally I wouldn’t call this one out as it didn’t give him any advantage.
@marshallpeters7174
@marshallpeters7174 2 жыл бұрын
That was only called because it was so obvious. It really shouldn't be so difficult to stay on the tee.
@robertcasko281
@robertcasko281 2 жыл бұрын
Call. Every. One. These people are paid to play the game. They can man up and follow the rules, or man up and take the fault call. Their choice.
@vjacksstacks5150
@vjacksstacks5150 2 жыл бұрын
Conrad: stroke!
@evelyneverlasting9038
@evelyneverlasting9038 8 ай бұрын
Id only call an agregious foot fault
@jwoellhof
@jwoellhof 2 жыл бұрын
You know...with all his over-the-top emotional outbursts and blatant disregard for the rules of Disc Golf, I'm surprised James Conrad is not the most maligned character on tour.
@ronjones-6977
@ronjones-6977 2 жыл бұрын
After I read a couple comments I changed my mind. ALL of these were definitely foot faults or falling putts. I've been playing tournaments for 33 years. You're not gonna change my mind. Would I call them? Probably not. Would I second them? Yep. I'll back someone up if I see the same thing. I'd like to see jump-putts and step-puts only allowed outside C2, but that's me.
@BadBrucey
@BadBrucey 2 жыл бұрын
It's a frigging rule which is hardly ever called. They need to get 18 volunteer (or paid) refs on each hold to call them.
@volley1414
@volley1414 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to pay them?
@byuidan
@byuidan 2 жыл бұрын
I am skeptical that 18 refs would be enough or that they would be any better. I think that you would need at least 3 per hole which is pretty much the card. Taking out the personal stake in making a call would have some benefit, but at this point, I think the pros know the rules better than paid or volunteer staff would. Who knows top three cards of a major with refs following... It could happen. Replays? Are we baseball? Personally I would rather see great shots than small rules violations called. With that said major rules violations are hard to watch, which includes a card that doesn't call a major rules violation.
@ultrapail
@ultrapail 2 жыл бұрын
A couple in there were definitely not ff, and the rest were innocent ff, however Dustin Keegan was blocked off from the other players view so he took an extra mile to give more open area to swing his arm. That’s a DQ in my book
@Luddevige
@Luddevige 2 жыл бұрын
Paige Pierce does a super clear one here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYLGi59ur9Gbbck
@shiaaaat666
@shiaaaat666 2 жыл бұрын
Not one clip of foot fault king Nikko Locastro
@toxicvillain
@toxicvillain 2 жыл бұрын
He has his own compilation.
@johnnycupofcoffee
@johnnycupofcoffee 2 жыл бұрын
2.15 and 6.32 were the worst, Those were actually cheaters. The others were just mistakes.
@ianallen2163
@ianallen2163 2 жыл бұрын
The 1st one actually wasn't a foot fault. His foot didn't slide off till after he let go of the disc
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