Smart Off Grid Solar "Canopy" Homebase Tour - Electric Outdoors

[@mikenielsen3971]

Love the concept, effectively a renewable energy hub and small house.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We are now quite interested in a complete off-grid "power and shower" solutions at the $50k price point. Something built into an enclosed trailer under 3,000lbs would have a very large TAM. -Producer Tim

[@a.googleuser1235]

Most brilliant guys in the off-grid buildings-with-electricity industry--hard stop.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Will you tell us about all of the competitors you've worked with in order to qualify that statement? -Producer Tim

[@craigmerrow225]

This is really neat! Being a pilot unit, I can appreciate why things aren't fully sorted out yet; that will happen as they refine it for production. I hope they are successful, as there are some great applications for it beyond camping, as he touched on in the interview.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We love to see that enthusiasm, Craig! There are many companies which build large battery banks and solar arrays into shipping containers for FEMA, festivals, construction sites, and other applications for a microgrid. From our vantage point, the secret sauce at Electric Outdoors is the app which allows for booking, management, check-in, and resource management. Unified access to the experience for the owner and the guest via mobile device unlocks the potential for deployment at scale even for an individual owner. Of course, sites will require some attention between guests, but this kind of automation can be very helpful. The restroom, lounge, kitchenette, and sleeping quarters are also very helpful. Water creation within the station makes extended stays viable with no need for the operator to resupply. -Producer Tim

[@scottkolaya2110]

Very cool. I've been camping on solar for 10 years now. It's awesome. Although through my experience, the complexities, expense and troubles with a tracking system, just wasn't worth the extra energy it would supply. I scrapped the idea because in order to make the system rugged enough to withstand sudden thunderstorms at the beach with 40mph winds, that made it very heavy. Plus, in order to tilt the panels, they have to be spaced apart, wasting that 20% of rooftop real-estate, or they just shade each other. I just made up the difference by adding more panels and mounted them flat. Panels are so cheap these days. It also helps having more panels on cloudy days vs. optimized angled ones. It made the whole system much simpler and sturdy. I don't camp in the middle of the winter, so the angle of the sun doesn't matter as much. People are always amazed that I can run so much electric stuff without a noisy generator.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thanks for sharing your experience. -Producer Tim

[@rp9674]

Great idea, this is closer to what I want for my house, save money over roof install, put it in the backyard

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

There ya go! -Producer Tim

[@M22Research]

Cool to see this startup in SE Michigan, where we are located. Very tough to make it in as a startup in RV-Tiny home market where this unit plays. Clever use case - particularly providing an EV charge capability for off grid vacation property owners like us who have resisted an EV due to the lack of chargers in more rural northern Michigan. EV charging requires some serious battery capacity, explaining the need for 32 rack mount batteries! That’s at least $32,000 of batteries alone - I’d be a bit concerned about theft on at a rural property. Since it has Starlink/5G Internet, security cameras would be a must. Good luck to them!

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We are happy to report on solutions. Thanks for watching. Subscribe to our channels for many more productions! -Producer Tim

[@ltkwok]

Very cool product. Cool combination of the best tech. The living space part seems like a gen 1 product. I would love to Air BnB 1.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

It is a gen1 product from a startup. Series production has not yet begun. We were in the manufacturing facility and the lines had not yet been established. -Producer Tim

[@shazam6274]

Wow! Just wow. Kudos for enthusiasm and "positive thinking" to Josef. I know it's "dialing for dollars" at this stage, but this "Product / Service / B-B Investment Opportunity / ?" is not ready for anything. Looks like a couple of weeks of making a crude box from Home Depot parts and stuffing "electricity stuff" randomly found on the internet in the resulting box. There are dozens of KZbin hobbyists that have made much better, more refined, functional, cheaper "electric camping wilderness boxes" than this thing. Maybe you could do him a charitable and humanitarian favor by diplomatically *, gently, giving him a dose of reality so he can apply his enthusiasm to more productive ends. * Producer Tim has an exceptional talent in this regard.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We will check back in later this year to see what improvements have been made when series production is underway. -Producer Tim

[@shazam6274]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry or insolvency...

[@nickayivor8432]

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[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thanks! -Producer Tim

[@johnpoldo8817]

As a network engineer, I expected much neater wiring for serviceability. Am I expecting too much?

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We assume the cables and pex will be much more tidy when regular production begins. Aesthetic refinement usually follows proof of function as a part of systemized manufacturing. -Producer Tim

[@mikenielsen3971]

Absolutely nobody does as clean wire management as a network engineer does. I expect this is the very early days of this company with a vision of integrating different functional areas together and hasn't got the in-house different specialties making the wiring, plumbing, construction... really clean. I expect that will happen if they make it to scale. Again, love the concept.

[@rp9674]

How date you?

[@bert1768]

its seems more like a 15.000 dollar build quality , not 150.000 ... , please tell me how you can get ROI of 18 months with 150k?

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

If you can build me a weatherproof 150kWh battery bank with 6600W of solar power, 12kW EV charging, a shower, toilet, and onboard water creation for $15,000, I will buy ten of them today with cash. -Producer Tim

[@solartime8983]

💖 Great IntrviewHer & IMPRESSIVE design/concept!! Considering it's a sol powered RV Camper. 🌞The calculation of sunny daily AVERAGE PV production. of "6000 Watts x 8 hours = 48 kWh" does not apply to Detroit latitude , it was be 4 sun-hour zone. (Only between Tropics of C...). and No way , even in tropics (& 30% tax credits,U.S.) can buyer get "18 months ROI" (from PV)on $150k. Cost is REASONABLE!! especially with all it does!!! 🌟🗽

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We delivered an optimistic, but achievable figure on screen as an indicator of what is possible. Of course, panels covered in snow up north during the winter will not generate energy. Panels in Alaska during June will generate MUCH more than our optimistic on-screen figures each day. -Producer Tim

[@solartime8983]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry 48kWh/day will be see most of ' Summer half ' of a year. PV Solar Isolation production highs (Michigan latitude), will not avg. 48 kWh/day. Ive know from 30+ years in PV industry Best to get Avg's (or lower) & customers be pleasantly surprised All good. Well produced Interview & Thanks To our Sol Liberty for all☀️🗽

[@Greg-bx4id]

Interesting concept...not happy with the battery wiring for a number of reasons. Suggestion: Put the batteries in the frame of the trailer in a similar way as is done in EVs...on top of the water tanks. This will significantly reduce the centre of gravity and save on space.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

This is a stationary structure. CoG is not a high priority (pun intended). Inexpensive packaging, cost effective production, and flood worthiness are factors. -Producer Tim

[@cottoncb]

like the concept, but they definitely need some wire management.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Aesthetic optimizations are likely to follow finalized product development as part of serial production. -Producer Tim

[@jasonwidegren3211]

Cool product.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We agree! Subscribe for many more innovations on this channel as well as the other two Miss GoElectric channels. -Producer Tim

[@FlatOutFE]

How did they get 12 panels in 5 rows that are the same length?

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We showed arial imagery of the array for your scrutiny. -Producer Tim

[@keithjacobson4493]

I like the concept.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm! -Producer Tim

[@mintakan003]

My first instinct is to separate the solar from the rest of the unit. If one has the real estate, wide open space, ground mount, bi-facial, and some form of rapidly setting this up, can buy one much more solar, and offer much more flexibility. And since the cost of solar keeps going down, over-panelling, in different orientations, may not be that big an issue. Battery and inverter can belong in another unit. Then Starlink-5G-Wifi another, along with water generator, etc. The main thing, is to make standardized modules, even if separate, but easily deployable and configurable. (Also, in emergency situations, a dis-patchable source, such as a gas or diesel generator should be backup.)

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Surely there will be many variations of the platform at some point. During the early stages of a startup like this, it is important to systemize and then optimize. That requires a limited field of options. Ideally, they'll get the quality control dialed in, then the speed...followed by variety. -Producer Tim

[@kqschwarz]

An interesting concept. The $150K price seems extreme, but considering there are batteries maybe it starts to make more sense. However, I have several concerns. 1. The batteries do not appear to have any thermal management. 2. The wiring organization is the worst I have ever seen for a commercial product. I cannot believe the CEO allowed that door to be opened to show the spaghetti mess that is the wiring of this production. I believe he said this particular unit was sold and was to be delivered to an actual customer. I am at a loss for words. 3. If this is a production unit, why is there stuff that is duct-taped to the H2O generation unit? 4. The quality of the cabinetry appears terrible (discount home center quality). There is sawdust everywhere within the cabinets and this is a delivery unit? 5. The support bars and associated cables to the opening walls on either side of the unit appear under-sized and flimsy. 6. I was not able to visualize the mechanism to adjust and support the solar collectors, but based on everything else I have seen, I expected they are undersized. The reason this is important is the solar collectors are sticking up like sails in the wind and could either be destroyed by a strong gust or knock the whole thing over. In the parking lot the "house" is supported on tiny little sticks. Imagine this "house" in the middle of a field or top of a hill in a thunderstorm. I think it would be reduced to a pile of home center parts in a few minutes. This was a nice review and an interesting concept. The reviewer touched on a lot of topics, but in the end I believe this product needs another review by a 3-person team - (1) someone qualified in electrical generation/storage, (2) another person qualified in water generation/storage and (3) another person who is experienced in structural integrity/storm mitigation. All the best.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

👍-Producer Tim

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

THX FOR SHARING 🤗😎🔋🔋🔋

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thanks for watching! -Producer Tim

[@bobwire6440]

Really good idea just tidy up the wiring good choice in batteries and Inverter like the recycler. Might want to look at the boating industry for what they use on recycling water really good choices though.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. -Producer Tim

[@MichaelMartinussen]

Great idea/possibility 😃 Can it be shipped to Europe? I can hear on his accent that he's born in Sweden :) But of course I will check the link you've provided :)

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

For the right price, all things are possible. This type of device is probably available in Europe now from a domestic provider at a more reasonable cost compared to international shipping and deployment. The digital component (app connectivity) promises to be the secret sauce. Josef is from Sweden. We filmed a much longer interview and might publish that full conversation separately. It contains more personal detail and more information about the organization. -Producer Tim

[@MichaelMartinussen]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry Thanks so much for your elaborate answer :)

[@jf1890]

Nice concept - but this unit looks like a prototype that was pieced together in a garage. Don't see this design going far.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

It is pilot production. We suspect there will be refinements when the lines are up and running and series production begins. Functionality is hard. Aesthetics are easy. -Producer Tim

[@autoglassmike]

Good idea

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thanks for watching! Subscribe here and @missgoelectric for much more -Producer Tim

[@victorthecarguy3126]

The solar panels could never support the size of the battery, what a waste.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We showed the math. No problem. -Producer Tim

[@victorthecarguy3126]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry There are a lot of people who are not good at math, its best to stick to your strengths.

[@educypriano2]

43 to 63 kWh with a 6.6kWp PB system? Sounds too much. I live in Brazil, at the Capricorn tropic and my similar fixed system generates ~26kWh a day.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Cell type, season, panel orientation, and photonic obfuscation are among the factors which influence daily energy yield. This configuration in Alaska in June could deliver 60kWh in a day. Snow covered in Michigan during February could deliver 0kWh in a day. -Producer Tim

[@unijabnx2000]

nothing about that wiring looks professional

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Ok -Producer Tim

[@rp9674]

I work in post-production and have never seen good Cable Management in a bay, I've walked on thousands of cables

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

I have wired all of my buildings and I appreciate a tidy cable management situation in the breaker room because there is a permanence to it The development at Electric Outdoors is fluid. Aesthetics are an optimization which one might expect at such a time when the pencils are down. -Producer Tim

[@OnlyUseMeC4s]

Holy cable management. What a rats nest. And this is going to a customer?

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Pilot production. -Producer Tim

[@ltkwok]

Put some trailer wheels on it & make it a trailer.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

That would be a different product which is already made. -Producer Tim

[@Freetalkfm]

Any strong wind and goodbye lol 😅

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

They have units deployed elsewhere. To our knowledge, engineering has held up to winds. -Producer Tim

[@my_freelance_life]

Seriously BAD Cable management for the solar. Makes you wonder what else on this project they were too lazy to do 100% correctly.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

This is a startup with fewer than ten employees testing early development units in the wild. Upon our visit to the facility, manufacturing lines were not yet established. Aesthetics inside the equipment closets may perhaps become more important when series production begins. -Producer Tim

[@M22Research]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry that being the case, the 2-1/2 week delivery from order sounds extremely ambitious, even impossible. Hopefully either I misheard or he misspoke and it is actually 2-1/2 months lead time.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

When series production begins, the lead time was stated as 2.5 weeks. It has not yet begun. The production lines were not established when we visited last week. In fact, the space for the production lines had not yet been cleared and we did not see manufacturing equipment on pallets ready to be commissioned. -Producer Tim

[@M22Research]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry respectfully, the video did not say “once we are in full production”. But even once/if that happens, two weeks seems impossible unless they are inventorying raw unit shells, something that requires a lot of working capital, something in short supply for a startup. Even established producers of far simpler teardrop trailers don’t perform from order to deliver like that without inventory. I’ll believe it when it happens. Good luck to them - particularly since they are local to us!

[@maximusmeridius3253]

nah.... bad design... 1 panel is covering 1 panel to another.... looks like the designer did not know how shading affecting it

[@AlbertKnesal-e2q]

Apparently, geometry and modeling are not your strong suite. How go outside with two pieces of foam board and lay them down next to each other point oriented in the direction of the sun. Now lift each board/panel an equal amount of degrees. Weird. No shading.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Max, perhaps it is you who has miscalculated? -Producer Tim

[@bitkrusher5948]

So you need to place that some where there is no crime or itl be stripped ....just saying thats a high end object for a troubled world 😂

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

This is a product which is intended for use on private property far away from civilization. It is always connected courtesy of Starlink and/or cellular modem which makes video surveillance a breeze. Remember, any given parking garage or mall parking lot might have a hundred million dollars worth of cars in it. We park in there and can reasonably assume our vehicles will not be pilfered. Civilization is functioning. -Producer Tim