Smash but we added UPGRADES

this was one of the most fun concepts in smash, SO fun to play
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[@LilyLambda]

Lily Lambda

[@unknwn6448]

Lily Lambda

[@IncidentalSSBM]

Lily Lambda

[@Kingambit7]

Lily Lambda

[@LeviHolmes-s1e]

Hi

[@tuxedo_monkey8805]

Thank you lily for making this awesome mod truly the goat 🔥

[@themadkingatmey]

This can't have been Nick's idea as he's surely not enough of a gamer to know what a rogue-like is.

[@bilalgill6722]

Well the fellas played a few roguelikes together on the party crashers channel so he learned from there lol

[@yoshidude8345]

@@bilalgill6722what are those videos?

[@saadalghamdi8138]

The boy is a bad noodle ):

[@bilalgill6722]

@@yoshidude8345 the crab one for sure, I think there may have been another but can't remember

[@thetruebiggestdon]

I've gots me a *sneaking* suspicion that a certain painfully plotting purple guy MAAAAAY or may not have been involved...

[@Schmack2]

Remember smash run in smash 4? That shit was basically a rougelike and was low key dope as hell. I hope they bring it back for the next game.

[@dr_rl123]

I'd consider it more like City Trial from Kirby Air Ride rather then a proper roguelike Missed opportunity to put Smash Run in ultimate tbh

[@JamesP7]

@@dr_rl123It is still a Roguelike, just a specific kind.

[@marshtomp8]

I miss Smash Run so damn much

[@emperoriro4391]

One of if not my favorite gamemode in smash

[@thesusmemegodmilituga1744]

I might have bad news for you buddy. We most likely won’t be getting any new smashy bros anytime soon

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

Lily I absolutely adore the ui you made for these, representing yourself as Anna is so cute too

[@Squincy.B]

The first time ever recorded of Nick being calm was captured for this intro.

[@TGExecutioner]

Awesome video Nicholas

[@TCNick3]

YOO thanks so much man! also *Nicolas!!

[@Syl700]

Give Lily extra for this, this is such a cool idea and so well made and WE NEED MORE

[@benwolfe9858]

6:25 His fucking face killed me!

[@gagejoseph91]

1:03 You can't just hit me with that SotN music outta nowhere! I'M INTERESTED IN THIS!

[@hopeburnett8313]

Such a cool concept! I'm so curious what the unexplored route could be! Such an awesome mod!

[@V1per-on1bm]

This was so much fun to watch! I would love to see another one like this! Shout out to the amazing Lily Lambda for the amzing mod!

[@CEGaming3]

4:40 As a smash bros player having an extra jump is the actual most gracious thing ever

[@mydudethebrother]

Tcnick3 you have truly upgraded your editing it has gotten so much better

[@zen524]

MY FAVORITE GENRES COMBINED! I really hope Lily manages to publish this so i can play it myself!

[@nintendonat353]

Please make a second episode, this concept is fire! Really good work lily lambda :)

[@StarBoy0204]

5:34 Lily made a menace with Incinaroar & it’s so funny I love it

[@ItsCenrryTH]

_MA! MA!_ _THERE'S A WEIRD CAT OVER THE'!_ *_MA!_* _THE CAT'S BEATING ME UP!_ *_IT CAN TELEPORT MA!_*

[@tinavanwey1308]

Literally the coolest mod I’ve ever seen, Lily is actually on another level

[@shyguy-te5bx]

Pls do a part two with little mac, I NEED to see him get buffed. Imagine the super armor on Incine over Mac, that shit would be insane

[@Taygon45]

I gotta bring up the use of Gravity Rish music during the 3rd fight. It's a great OST. To give this comment a point, I wanna see a sequil to this vid

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

TCNick3 really putting the C in Carried because bro was DOMINATING through all that heavy armour.

[@cocciclaque9084]

What happened at the end when vernias was in ledgehang and got spiked; In melee, ledge intangibility is not applied during ledgehant, it's a flag placed on the player with a timer (allowing invincible ledge-options and a lot of badonkers thing) In ult, ledgehang is technically a move, and every move is -10f (due to Xfactor). Problem is, frames are not explicitelly written for animations of move, they're calculated by animation speed. Lily probably applied -10f by accelerating animations by a certain math formula depending on endlag etc afterr the last hitbox was active. But ledgehang doesn't have a hitbox, so the macro used to write the code for the -10f sped the whole ledgehang anim speed+ "frame data" by a LOT, rendering the state intangible for like 4 frames max. Of course, this is purely speculation as I have no idea how Lily ACTUALLY wrote this mod, but this is the only explanation I can find (since it's unheard off to apply frame data changes to every moves automatically) Hope this helped explain for the people who were curious

[@LilyLambda]

While ledgehang is technically a move in ultimate and invincibility frames are not explicitly defined, they’re placed based on calculations done in main and animation speed has no effect. What I did to implement -10f is use two functions available in base game- one that outputs the final frame of the current animation, and one that outputs the current frame of it. The code then checks if the current frame is within 10 from the final frame, and if so, grants the player the ability to cancel the move with anything. I’m not entirely sure why Vern didn’t have intangibility. My best guess is that he accidentally cancelled the ledgehang early by pressing something within a specific window, and by doing so ended the cliffhang status and therefore his intangibility, but *not* the motion.

[@JareBear1]

I sort of want to see this as a playable mod. The chaos this could bring with my friends

[@BecketGrimm]

"Negative 10 frames of end lag on everything" Imagine if he was playing Sheik when he got that

[@jojomojoooooo]

10:38- 10:48 almost made me cry tears. i wish i had friends like this

[@marioortegosanz1614]

I love how when Vernias upgraded aireals, 1:19-1:23 is one of the best moments

[@NiccolóReina]

Make It a series with vernias, that' be hype

[@LeftHook-em6rv]

We do need more content with them, this is true

[@claywilliams7579]

I'm 90% sure that spike in the last match happened because you had 10 less frames of invincibility

[@dallinhunter7385]

Biblically accurate Incineroar

[@charadreemerr4195]

Now THIS is what I'm talking about! I wanna see what kind of BS can happen if they choose their mains with this 'Rougelite' Upgrade system... Daisy having guaranteed bombs instead of turnips, and Pit having K. Rool style armor on all of his attacks, anybody?

[@skillagerthevillagermain]

lucina with two dolphin slashes

[@DoubleCheckTheFacts]

Nicks incinaror is max brass but always pumped and he has spring man revenge too

[@hyl1an]

bruh Vernias’s link hurts me man, he had the golden ticket with that boomerang buff and couldn’t do shit

[@Matpit18]

Who knew Incineroar could learn Teleport?

[@SunsetVR.]

Only ogs remember that this was called smash but we can upgrade our characters

[@jimmyhill5413]

Me who knows invincibility has frams so subtracting 10 frames means no frames of invincibility on anything except respawns

[@user-fr4hg8md5p]

Incineror used teleport! 5:25

[@587DeathKing]

That was a VERY generous 15% for the amount of times Nick got hit

[@Nebulius_the_uuhhhh]

Vernias has the perfect voice for complaining about incinaroar

[@zandardo9504]

I need more of this

[@natsu400yrs3]

10:54 That's not the shoryuken input, it's a quarter circle forward input which would be the hadouken.

[@finnostendorp546]

pleeeeeaaaaaaasseeeeee a part 2 pleeaaasssee

[@ashervanmaanen3353]

We need more stuff like this

[@3chodraco]

Now I'm curious about what the last two upgrades were

[@noahsmallridge8701]

Can we have more of this with different characters this shit was so fucking finny

[@Yangfamilysd]

Not entirely a rougelike but kinda close I guess?

[@Rose-df4ep]

vernias lost because he stopped using boomerang

[@justsolved4467]

I feel like, coz of nick’s voice, he just woke up to record this

[@YourLocalSonicFam]

Another hit banger from Nickolas himself

[@coleminer8847]

Should’ve shown off the other 2 unpgrades

[@andybandy4662]

loooove the name of the video changing

[@TamagoGangan]

say you don't know what a roguelike is

[@namelessdragon330]

Now I just really wanna know what the higher-level Damage upgrades are...

[@rubynotexist]

I wanna see Pichu in this mod so bad

[@ShadowNinjaDestiny]

Really enjoyed this video.

[@Elizabeth-by7gz]

Thank you editor :)

[@somerawlime]

by the final battle it resembled a DBZ fight

[@Shock_bomb]

8:04 WE ARE NINTENDO

[@LuisSantos-wz7qv]

please do more of this nick

[@crumpuscrump]

12:29 what if your ledge invul was deleted by 10 frames?

[@DaBaseBallZ]

We need more

[@masonsena999]

Now make it a Bullet Hell game

[@sonwibi_gamez2559]

little mac is crying now

[@pytooie]

we need more

[@Miguelg_jr]

My favorite KZbinr, TacoCabanaNick3!

[@hybriddinosaur4956]

Splatoon 3 reference

[@giancarlorappa6486]

Where can I download this , it looks so cool

[@mtvgamer2479]

Anyone else that thinks vern looks like Sam from lotr?

[@JoelTheParrot]

what do you mean 10 frames less endlag on everything, most moves will just have 0 endlag, huh??

[@omegalilbchass8270]

I dont understand why they kept ignoring the damage. + 5% after every match and link ftilt would do like 60%. With that u dont even need the stat increases or the gimmicks.

[@Adnah123]

Pizza rolls

[@elyas2852]

Is it just me or did you think the 3% was a multipler

[@MonsieurGaslight]

Canon VGC Incineroar.

[@SophieSarka]

What happened to the randomizer nuzlocke videos?

[@DoubleCheckTheFacts]

How did you make the store

[@the_puppeteer2136]

So...part 2 when? XD

[@squiddlyd755]

Why did Vern lose two stocks at 9:15 ? So confused lol

[@marcourtubey7834]

Same here 😅 I wish he explained it more for the viewers

[@Taktaagic]

THIS IS ONE OF THE COOLEST IDEAS EVER AND NOW I REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT HOW LILY EVEN DID THIS

[@chuckokler7021]

It works kinda like Spirits! It’s super fun.

[@LilyLambda]

@@chuckokler7021 no lmao. Not in the slightest

[@joelmayer8483]

​@@chuckokler7021Bro He meant how Lily programmed it not the idea

[@Veebing]

playing this in world of light would be peak

[@marcothehunter]

​@@LilyLambda does it work more like the skill tree in World of Light, then ?

[@Thatguy223-vc4wb]

This would actually be a really cool mode to put into smash, as always great concept.

[@Ai_Ikari]

That’s what I was thinking, really creative

[@eroypelli5272]

Bro, we need a part 2. This was so much fun to watch!

[@CatGamerstudios]

Yes

[@threeworldheroes]

maybe with king of skill and eevee double the chaos

[@MrAnimeAMVmaker]

​​@@threeworldheroes having either Eevee or Brent try this idea out next would be hype

[@FLAKE091]

Part two

[@NewspaperZombie-6942]

To answer why Vernias got hit when he ledge grabbed, I believe it was due to his less endlag ability which probably affected every move Vernias does.

[@WalterBaker-yh6zi]

Nerd?

[@NewspaperZombie-6942]

@@WalterBaker-yh6zi oh man im a nerd now, maybe its time to pack my bags, im so sad right now, very sad, guys i quit youtube goodbye

[@TheFlame_Hawk]

Are you and Sunday Edition zombie related?

[@preposterous_fox]

"I wish for less end lag!" "OK, you get less end lag on everything, including ledge invincibility." *monkey's paw curls*

[@colinaplin5677]

S H U T U P .

[@Vernias]

super armor cringe

[@icyso]

nuh uh

[@Chizinky]

skissue

[@DoubleCheckTheFacts]

@@Chizinkyski issue lol

[@sang_3375]

@@DoubleCheckTheFacts surf issue

[@vickydrobnik3587]

Boa issue

[@Springdude11]

5:05 INCINAROAR Wants to Learn the Move CLOSE COMBAT! Shall a Move be Forgotten?

[@marshall3314]

"That's not an optimal competitive move for a support incin!"

[@PlatinumComet]

His defensive stats went down for that one.

[@Idiota_Profissional]

Run

[@brandontan2335]

All Incineroar needs is Fake Out, Parting Shot, Knock Off and Will O Wisp

[@neatoburrito9013]

@@marshall3314 competitive Pokemon players having fun challenge: lvl IMPOSSIBLE

[@NatePhan]

Those Incineroar buffs were busted, super armor+teleporting. Felt like Vernias couldn't even fight back after that lol

[@Endershock1678]

I think the idea is that the Incineroar armor would have been broken and more or less countered by upgrading the damage tree, which likely would have made every move (except the multi hit aerials and nair) strong enough to break the armor, especially since the third upgrade was shown to be crazy every time, but we never saw what upgrade went beyond increased tilt damage. If the damage upgrade was like Aura or double damage or Arsene, or some other crazy late game upgrade, Incineroar would have been cooked.

[@The76532]

I thought the teleport one was an evolution of jump Air speed -> jump -> teleport

[@The76532]

Also Parry reflect -> passive armor

[@Spyvy]

This idea is -more like a game called Rounds than a roguelike- *similar to a game called Rounds*. In that game, both players pick a power-up at the start and the loser of each round gets to pick another one. Here, though, both players get to pick a power-up regardless of who won or lost (which is also a Rounds mod). Maybe for a follow-up video you can do what Rounds does. Edit: Changed the first sentence for clarity.

[@pyremis]

I get what you mean but rounds is pretty much a roguelike 1v1 (or more with mods) shooter

[@Spyvy]

@@pyremis Yeah, true. I guess the problem I have is that "roguelike" can mean like a lot of different things at this point.

[@TheMagicDragon-mm5dr]

You start a game, get upgrades over the course of it, whether you win or lose, that's the end of it and you have to start over. It's a roguelike. Rounds is a roguelike. You can describe this as being more like Rounds, but that doesn't mean this isn't a roguelike as you have indicated, that is stupid.

[@Sainoupenia]

@@TheMagicDragon-mm5dr rougelikes need random generation tho

[@iconica9516]

rounds is just a multiplayer rougelite

[@thevelplays308]

Still more balanced than The Binding of Isaac

[@real_abender]

6:25 If I was still making Party Crashers CAH decks, this face would have been pure diamond material to add.

[@badashe1364]

This is honestly such a cool concept, I’d love to see you do this with the other party crashers, or honestly anyone. This is too cool to be just one video.

[@MaxWeb2599]

Lily Lambda when Nick gets an idea for a video: business is boomin'!

[@Spearmint4]

I’m a good noodle! I’m a good noodle!! (Happy April fools.)

[@lidudley3000]

Say it again.😊

[@draconicghoul1987]

It again.

[@lidudley3000]

@@draconicghoul1987 Say again. 🤕

[@draconicghoul1987]

@@lidudley3000, no the other thing. 😃

[@lidudley3000]

@@draconicghoul1987 Say. 🫡

[@Super64Legend]

Not my dumb ah thinking that he was referring to Rogue One 💀

[@amberstargames]

STAR WARS REFERENCE!! 😊

[@rawdonstott7368]

🤦‍♂️

[@adrianmerasanz2625]

I love roguelikes so this was an instant click as soon as i Saw it appear

[@DisbeBobby]

3:01 Nick... Nick... No the fuck it isn't.

[@Beast_the_smash_guy]

Fun fact: 1:47 is something that can naturally happen due to some weird frame timing mixed with arial drift. I wish I could explain how it works, but I'm not a super technical player in that sense. I just know I love using that into side early b's off the top, though in certain scenarios, nair pffstage works wonders

[@hyphe1337]

This is so sick what, Lily Lambda does such a good job with these!

[@SkyraSaturn]

6:25 Dude I have NEVER seen Nick make that face before! I definitely would have made that face if this happened with me and my friends!

[@michaeldavies4186]

I'm surprised it isn't a meme template at this point. It's a perfect combination of shock, confusion and utter disgust that has SO much potential

[@stormRed]

The idea of combining two of my favorite game genres is so exciting!

[@headrewriter3681]

I heard x-factor and immediately thought of umvc3

[@peppinos-paghetti]

@@headrewriter3681 giga Chad game

[@peppinos-paghetti]

Giga Chad game

[@RedTHedge]

As usual, Nick is the most skilled player.

[@lakeside5771]

The castlevania symphony of the night music on the shop was appreciated and noticed! Good job editor!

[@kingwashington4044]

Nick I just got to say one thing You progressively got more handsome I don't know how I don't know what voodoo magic you did or you sold your soul to Illuminati but you have looked a lot more handsome over the year since I've been watching party crashes