Smash but we added UPGRADES

this was one of the most fun concepts in smash, SO fun to play
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[@LilyLambda]

Lily Lambda

[@unknwn6448]

Lily Lambda

[@IncidentalSSBM]

Lily Lambda

[@Kingambit7]

Lily Lambda

[@LeviHolmes-s1e]

Hi

[@tuxedo_monkey8805]

Thank you lily for making this awesome mod truly the goat 🔥

[@Taktaagic]

THIS IS ONE OF THE COOLEST IDEAS EVER AND NOW I REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT HOW LILY EVEN DID THIS

[@chuckokler7021]

It works kinda like Spirits! It’s super fun.

[@LilyLambda]

@@chuckokler7021 no lmao. Not in the slightest

[@joelmayer8483]

​@@chuckokler7021Bro He meant how Lily programmed it not the idea

[@Veebing]

playing this in world of light would be peak

[@marcothehunter]

​@@LilyLambda does it work more like the skill tree in World of Light, then ?

[@Thatguy223-vc4wb]

This would actually be a really cool mode to put into smash, as always great concept.

[@Ai_Ikari]

That’s what I was thinking, really creative

[@themadkingatmey]

This can't have been Nick's idea as he's surely not enough of a gamer to know what a rogue-like is.

[@bilalgill6722]

Well the fellas played a few roguelikes together on the party crashers channel so he learned from there lol

[@yoshidude8345]

@@bilalgill6722what are those videos?

[@saadalghamdi8138]

The boy is a bad noodle ):

[@bilalgill6722]

@@yoshidude8345 the crab one for sure, I think there may have been another but can't remember

[@thetruebiggestdon]

I've gots me a *sneaking* suspicion that a certain painfully plotting purple guy MAAAAAY or may not have been involved...

[@eroypelli5272]

Bro, we need a part 2. This was so much fun to watch!

[@CatGamerstudios]

Yes

[@threeworldheroes]

maybe with king of skill and eevee double the chaos

[@MrAnimeAMVmaker]

​​@@threeworldheroes having either Eevee or Brent try this idea out next would be hype

[@FLAKE091]

Part two

[@NewspaperZombie-6942]

To answer why Vernias got hit when he ledge grabbed, I believe it was due to his less endlag ability which probably affected every move Vernias does.

[@WalterBaker-yh6zi]

Nerd?

[@NewspaperZombie-6942]

@@WalterBaker-yh6zi oh man im a nerd now, maybe its time to pack my bags, im so sad right now, very sad, guys i quit youtube goodbye

[@TheFlame_Hawk]

Are you and Sunday Edition zombie related?

[@preposterous_fox]

"I wish for less end lag!" "OK, you get less end lag on everything, including ledge invincibility." *monkey's paw curls*

[@colinaplin5677]

S H U T U P .

[@Schmack2]

Remember smash run in smash 4? That shit was basically a rougelike and was low key dope as hell. I hope they bring it back for the next game.

[@dr_rl123]

I'd consider it more like City Trial from Kirby Air Ride rather then a proper roguelike Missed opportunity to put Smash Run in ultimate tbh

[@JamesP7]

@@dr_rl123It is still a Roguelike, just a specific kind.

[@marshtomp8]

I miss Smash Run so damn much

[@emperoriro4391]

One of if not my favorite gamemode in smash

[@thesusmemegodmilituga1744]

I might have bad news for you buddy. We most likely won’t be getting any new smashy bros anytime soon

[@NatePhan]

Those Incineroar buffs were busted, super armor+teleporting. Felt like Vernias couldn't even fight back after that lol

[@Endershock1678]

I think the idea is that the Incineroar armor would have been broken and more or less countered by upgrading the damage tree, which likely would have made every move (except the multi hit aerials and nair) strong enough to break the armor, especially since the third upgrade was shown to be crazy every time, but we never saw what upgrade went beyond increased tilt damage. If the damage upgrade was like Aura or double damage or Arsene, or some other crazy late game upgrade, Incineroar would have been cooked.

[@The76532]

I thought the teleport one was an evolution of jump Air speed -> jump -> teleport

[@The76532]

Also Parry reflect -> passive armor

[@Springdude11]

5:05 INCINAROAR Wants to Learn the Move CLOSE COMBAT! Shall a Move be Forgotten?

[@marshall3314]

"That's not an optimal competitive move for a support incin!"

[@PlatinumComet]

His defensive stats went down for that one.

[@Idiota_Profissional]

Run

[@brandontan2335]

All Incineroar needs is Fake Out, Parting Shot, Knock Off and Will O Wisp

[@neatoburrito9013]

@@marshall3314 competitive Pokemon players having fun challenge: lvl IMPOSSIBLE

[@badashe1364]

This is honestly such a cool concept, I’d love to see you do this with the other party crashers, or honestly anyone. This is too cool to be just one video.

[@Spyvy]

This idea is -more like a game called Rounds than a roguelike- *similar to a game called Rounds*. In that game, both players pick a power-up at the start and the loser of each round gets to pick another one. Here, though, both players get to pick a power-up regardless of who won or lost (which is also a Rounds mod). Maybe for a follow-up video you can do what Rounds does. Edit: Changed the first sentence for clarity.

[@pyremis]

I get what you mean but rounds is pretty much a roguelike 1v1 (or more with mods) shooter

[@Spyvy]

@@pyremis Yeah, true. I guess the problem I have is that "roguelike" can mean like a lot of different things at this point.

[@TheMagicDragon-mm5dr]

You start a game, get upgrades over the course of it, whether you win or lose, that's the end of it and you have to start over. It's a roguelike. Rounds is a roguelike. You can describe this as being more like Rounds, but that doesn't mean this isn't a roguelike as you have indicated, that is stupid.

[@Sainoupenia]

@@TheMagicDragon-mm5dr rougelikes need random generation tho

[@iconica9516]

rounds is just a multiplayer rougelite

[@real_abender]

6:25 If I was still making Party Crashers CAH decks, this face would have been pure diamond material to add.

[@MaxWeb2599]

Lily Lambda when Nick gets an idea for a video: business is boomin'!

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

Lily I absolutely adore the ui you made for these, representing yourself as Anna is so cute too

[@thevelplays308]

Still more balanced than The Binding of Isaac

[@Beast_the_smash_guy]

Fun fact: 1:47 is something that can naturally happen due to some weird frame timing mixed with arial drift. I wish I could explain how it works, but I'm not a super technical player in that sense. I just know I love using that into side early b's off the top, though in certain scenarios, nair pffstage works wonders

[@TGExecutioner]

Awesome video Nicholas

[@TCNick3]

YOO thanks so much man! also *Nicolas!!

[@Squincy.B]

The first time ever recorded of Nick being calm was captured for this intro.

[@stormRed]

The idea of combining two of my favorite game genres is so exciting!

[@hyphe1337]

This is so sick what, Lily Lambda does such a good job with these!

[@SkyraSaturn]

6:25 Dude I have NEVER seen Nick make that face before! I definitely would have made that face if this happened with me and my friends!

[@michaeldavies4186]

I'm surprised it isn't a meme template at this point. It's a perfect combination of shock, confusion and utter disgust that has SO much potential

[@OdyOkami]

This is actually so awesome, I’d love to see more of this, thanks Lily Lambda for making this possible!

[@lakeside5771]

The castlevania symphony of the night music on the shop was appreciated and noticed! Good job editor!

[@Syl700]

Give Lily extra for this, this is such a cool idea and so well made and WE NEED MORE

[@hopeburnett8313]

Such a cool concept! I'm so curious what the unexplored route could be! Such an awesome mod!

[@adrianmerasanz2625]

I love roguelikes so this was an instant click as soon as i Saw it appear

[@Vernias]

super armor cringe

[@icyso]

nuh uh

[@Chizinky]

skissue

[@DoubleCheckTheFacts]

@@Chizinkyski issue lol

[@sang_3375]

@@DoubleCheckTheFacts surf issue

[@vickydrobnik3587]

Boa issue

[@V1per-on1bm]

This was so much fun to watch! I would love to see another one like this! Shout out to the amazing Lily Lambda for the amzing mod!

[@adamkampen]

0:09 wow I haven't thought about the Punch the Computer flash game in years but that fist brought back memories in a flasg

[@DisbeBobby]

3:01 Nick... Nick... No the fuck it isn't.

[@zen524]

MY FAVORITE GENRES COMBINED! I really hope Lily manages to publish this so i can play it myself!

[@gagejoseph91]

1:03 You can't just hit me with that SotN music outta nowhere! I'M INTERESTED IN THIS!

[@benwolfe9858]

6:25 His fucking face killed me!

[@mydudethebrother]

Tcnick3 you have truly upgraded your editing it has gotten so much better

[@LeonGroff2777]

Man, I love the music choices for your videos. Library music from SoTN for your upgrades? SMRPG battle music? Amazing. This video was so fun, I hope you decide to do another, this was ridiculous in the best way possible.

[@Ender41948]

I'm gonna need this to be a series with like, the whole cast.

[@ruefan12]

Super awesome concept for a video, honestly hope to see a couple other characters. Make sure you give Lily tons of love for the awesome work.

[@nintendonat353]

Please make a second episode, this concept is fire! Really good work lily lambda :)

[@boodude57]

This is genuinely one of the coolest ideas ever put to smash. You should do more of these

[@benday5945]

me at 13:10 when Lá Peri by Dukas is played - thank you whoever put that in :)

[@RedTHedge]

As usual, Nick is the most skilled player.

[@Spearmint4]

I’m a good noodle! I’m a good noodle!! (Happy April fools.)

[@lidudley3000]

Say it again.😊

[@draconicghoul1987]

It again.

[@lidudley3000]

@@draconicghoul1987 Say again. 🤕

[@draconicghoul1987]

@@lidudley3000, no the other thing. 😃

[@lidudley3000]

@@draconicghoul1987 Say. 🫡

[@gabrieljohnson6435]

This is one of the best ideas I’ve ever seen, keep up the good work

[@tinavanwey1308]

Literally the coolest mod I’ve ever seen, Lily is actually on another level

[@TieTheFox]

This was such a fun concept omg PLEASE make more

[@mathiasRomero-zo3iz]

Omg I’d love it so much to see more of this, pls part 2!

[@Super64Legend]

Not my dumb ah thinking that he was referring to Rogue One 💀

[@amberstargames]

STAR WARS REFERENCE!! 😊

[@rawdonstott7368]

🤦‍♂️

[@ItsCenrryTH]

_MA! MA!_ _THERE'S A WEIRD CAT OVER THE'!_ *_MA!_* _THE CAT'S BEATING ME UP!_ *_IT CAN TELEPORT MA!_*

[@ProtoDon-ib9su]

Link: Try’s everything to kill Incineroar Incineroar: “Goodnight girl 😎”

[@azj1467]

This was awesome, would love to see this again with different characters

[@pyromaniac000000]

Crazy how much of a nerf the teleport power was, up until you got super armor, then it became actually cracked!

[@unnameduser6472]

We need another one of these, but with more wacky stuff/stats and skills. Choose before hand who you'll play of course, but I see this being a interesting series, hopefully.

[@wickedlyoddella7391]

We need this to be a series. This was one of your best videos, Nick

[@GalaxiaKnightX]

You know this concept here can be amazing with a lot more options. There's tons of potential here. Like one of them can be that your character just gets super mushroomed and it can stack. But then again having to do that with all the characters would be very tough to do.

[@javathehunt790]

More of this please Best idea ever

[@zernek9199]

This is an awesome mod Also Vernias calling the Hadouken input Shoryuken was very funny

[@WhimsicalLittledawg]

Wow, that was [VERY GOOD AND ENTERTAINING] WHY

[@hyper_pyro]

8:46 Stormy Saxophone 5 really is one hell of a banger (as seen here)

[@Tenshi-j1e]

Bro super cool video, every video IS better than the last

[@boftungol9423]

This is by far my favourite mod, would absolutely love to see more of it!

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

TCNick3 really putting the C in Carried because bro was DOMINATING through all that heavy armour.

[@StarBoy0204]

5:34 Lily made a menace with Incinaroar & it’s so funny I love it

[@ninjiumz6849]

Great video Nick, and to Lily, awesome mod!

[@CEGaming3]

4:40 As a smash bros player having an extra jump is the actual most gracious thing ever

[@headrewriter3681]

I heard x-factor and immediately thought of umvc3

[@peppinos-paghetti]

@@headrewriter3681 giga Chad game

[@peppinos-paghetti]

Giga Chad game

[@michaeldiefenbach1506]

Wow. Im excited for this video. Edit: This was a great video. I would love to play with this incineroar lol

[@silverrath]

This looks so much fun to play with lmao Imagine the war crimes you could commit with certain characters. Sora with stronger aerials and a third jump would go crazy. Throw in a functional up taunt for good measure.

[@shadowhenry7680]

6:25 bro's face was like: Wut du HAAAAAAAIL OH MA GAD, noo wayayaaaay!

[@BansheeBooVT]

All these upgrades on Ganondorf would actually make him a viable character. Lily is the GOAT ❤️❤️

[@erich_ika]

holy... this mod... Lily better be getting a massive bag

[@HerMajestyVelvet]

I literally saw this as I was playing Pokerouge I couldn’t be happier (If you couldn’t tell rougelike is my favorite game genre)

[@jasomega2446]

Cool Concept!

[@Springdude11]

That acrually sounds pretty dope

[@shyguy-te5bx]

Pls do a part two with little mac, I NEED to see him get buffed. Imagine the super armor on Incine over Mac, that shit would be insane

[@JareBear1]

I sort of want to see this as a playable mod. The chaos this could bring with my friends

[@thx4chrckingin]

Aside from the super armor being literally unbeatable, this was a super cool idea! I hope to see more soon!

[@DyxoXinoro]

I was just saying this should be a thing in the next smash game to a friend last week. Like, I wrote a five page essay about how it might even work and its basically the same as what you've got going on here.

[@username-ue7mp]

All your abilities give you a high chance to make a god-like recovery.

[@cocciclaque9084]

What happened at the end when vernias was in ledgehang and got spiked; In melee, ledge intangibility is not applied during ledgehant, it's a flag placed on the player with a timer (allowing invincible ledge-options and a lot of badonkers thing) In ult, ledgehang is technically a move, and every move is -10f (due to Xfactor). Problem is, frames are not explicitelly written for animations of move, they're calculated by animation speed. Lily probably applied -10f by accelerating animations by a certain math formula depending on endlag etc afterr the last hitbox was active. But ledgehang doesn't have a hitbox, so the macro used to write the code for the -10f sped the whole ledgehang anim speed+ "frame data" by a LOT, rendering the state intangible for like 4 frames max. Of course, this is purely speculation as I have no idea how Lily ACTUALLY wrote this mod, but this is the only explanation I can find (since it's unheard off to apply frame data changes to every moves automatically) Hope this helped explain for the people who were curious

[@LilyLambda]

While ledgehang is technically a move in ultimate and invincibility frames are not explicitly defined, they’re placed based on calculations done in main and animation speed has no effect. What I did to implement -10f is use two functions available in base game- one that outputs the final frame of the current animation, and one that outputs the current frame of it. The code then checks if the current frame is within 10 from the final frame, and if so, grants the player the ability to cancel the move with anything. I’m not entirely sure why Vern didn’t have intangibility. My best guess is that he accidentally cancelled the ledgehang early by pressing something within a specific window, and by doing so ended the cliffhang status and therefore his intangibility, but *not* the motion.

[@grimmyreaper3790]

I love how Nick got so carried near the end its honestly hilarious but it was deserved as he was losing until he got 1 op upgrade to carry him just like a real roguelike

[@ashen_roses]

Crazy how Nick kept getting the most insane shit I've ever seen for upgrades

[@kirbyx2573]

And now Nick put a rouge like in smash?! Whats this dude gonna cook up next? Either way, I am so onboard, this sounds like an absolute blast!

[@TheScribeScribe]

If more abilities, both universal and unique character abilities and effects are added this could be its own series.

[@timrc417]

This would make for a sick series ngl. The possibilities feel so endless

[@adonaiguzman]

I haven’t watched a TCNick video in so long and the editing has gotten so much better

[@delta9240]

Your voice sounds extra deep today, another reason for your beauty, my sunshine 🌞

[@zsnow6200]

"X-Factor is broken." YO WHERE MY MARVEL PLAYERS AT?!?!

[@NiccolóReina]

Make It a series with vernias, that' be hype

[@LeftHook-em6rv]

We do need more content with them, this is true

[@Taygon45]

I gotta bring up the use of Gravity Rish music during the 3rd fight. It's a great OST. To give this comment a point, I wanna see a sequil to this vid

[@kingwashington4044]

Nick I just got to say one thing You progressively got more handsome I don't know how I don't know what voodoo magic you did or you sold your soul to Illuminati but you have looked a lot more handsome over the year since I've been watching party crashes

[@UmbrotheUmbreon]

Nick is the fucking GOAT! This was not only an awesome idea but an amazing video to watch. I'd be hella down to see another of these with Brent and Sophist.

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

“We did this thing that’s super fun!” “What’s that? You want the mod? Fuck you, no”

[@zachm56gaming30]

Bro, the fire emblem awakening shop with LILY was the greatest thing ever

[@cloudmonkey6952]

Once Nick got super armor, Vernias should’ve just gone with the damage buffs to even stand a chance.

[@diabeticman2194]

Smash roguelike looks like a lot of fun, Incineroar looked busted with his upgradable abilities

[@enderender8304]

me happy seeing tcnick vid

[@jojomojoooooo]

10:38- 10:48 almost made me cry tears. i wish i had friends like this

[@guidokawajiri6383]

Do this with da whole of the party crashers, i wanna see eevee bash brent for going full optimization on his K. Rool

[@bananaBread16]

THIS IS MARVEL BABY X-Factor go crazy, lets hope Vergil didn't follow us here

[@cadenseale3157]

This was such a cool idea. I pray you do a part 2 but with different characters.