Smash Hate is Dumb

[@KindaKaon]

I feel like Sonix (unironically a top 10 player these days) is really in danger of having this happen to him.

[@oscarheinrich5519]

Really sad to hear this maister, hope you can make it through and find happiness. Unfortunately us humans aren't really equipped emotionally to deal with the sheer amount of voices talking about us that public figures have nowadays. It's probably a cliche thing to say, but I would highly recommend seeing a therapist. I had a totally unrelated problem to the one you're having, but seeing a therapist helped bring me back from a low low point in my life, I think everyone can highly benefit from seeing a therapist that works for them.

[@nateh941]

It would be a real shame to see you go Maister. Most people don’t know what they have until they lose it. You have such a great personality and your talent is unreal. The literal trailblazer for Game and Watch and easily the best with him no questions. Much love Maister

[@neofluxer2838]

miya?

[@Kryp6]

Miya tho

[@nateh941]

@@Kryp6 thats fine you can have that opinion but i highly disagree based on Maister paving the way for Game and Watch Miya recently popped off and no doubt Miya is an amazing player but this is what Maister’s video is about why are we discrediting Maister when hes paved the way?

[@PrettyPieHead]

Maister goes underrated in all aspects fr, great personality and an experienced *and* talented pro at the game, that *should* draw views in itself Hope people see it sooner rather than later, this man deserves the love

[@jessetucker3997]

Just want to add my voice to the "love" side. You've been my favorite player since Smash 4 and I'll always root for you. Don't let the immature haters get you down; they don't deserve the attention.

[@PeterMJJacob]

Big fan of your work Maister. As a Game & Watch main since Brawl, you are the guy that put this character out into the meta and onto the map, I see you as an inspiration. People would hate on you and your accomplishments but 99/100 if that person tried solo-maining the second lightest character in the game into the opponents that you have beaten, they would get so fucking bodied it isn't even funny. Your true fans know that you are one of the most mechanically skilled players in the world. I always tune into the tournaments to watch your runs. I think because you are hated so much it galvanizes my support for you even more. Very often you've got the crowd against you, you've got the casters against you, you've got the match-up against you and that's what makes the aspect of you winning so much more hype. That's how anti-heroes are formed, and if/when you win that super major, the W will only be that much more epic. Even if the whole place is booing you when the confetti drops - you become a legend. Use the flames of hatred to temper and sharpen the edge of your blade. First and foremost, do whatever you have to do for your own mental health. That comes before everything. When you are feeling yourself and on top of your game I think you have what it takes to defeat any opponent.

[@jaredoak]

Smash community has dumb kids/teenagers and also people who never fully matured who just throw random comments of hate. I never understood how come people just downplay someone’s talent in a game just because of the character they main or play style, ya maybe you might not like it but also gotta appreciate their talent in the game. I heard if you have nothing positive to say then why say it. There’s already too much negativity in this world.

[@oscarheinrich5519]

Sucks, but this is a widespread human thing, you should see sports fans.

[@mr.gameandwatchoilpanicove452]

@@oscarheinrich5519Fr and also roblox kids

[@mr.gameandwatchoilpanicove452]

@@oscarheinrich5519one kid even tried to cancel me because he is a roblox kid

[@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569]

Fr, I for one don't like Steve's gameplay but I'm not going to go into the top Steve players DMs just to say awful things to them. People just need to take a step back and realize that sending death threats or hate towards anyone over a game is beyond childish and makes them infinitely worse than whoever it is they're hating on. It's also extremely messed up how someone like Onin who is something like 16 years old probably gets insane hate. I couldn't imagine dealing with that kind of thing at that age and it baffles me how literally anyone can think it's ok to click send on a hurtful message towards someone who isn't even an adult, especially when the person sending the message is over 18 themselves.

[@awesomesause79]

Smash community is plagued with hive mind syndrome. There’s so many people who are desperate to have the “right” opinion so they just regurgitate whatever seems popular. Screw the haters

[@SquidsTv]

we sending much love!

[@greasysmig8966]

Smash suceeds at being one of the most toxic esports communities and its due to all the factors Maister laid out. We saw the hate with Armada, we saw it with Hbox, we saw it with ZeRo, and we've even kind of seen it with MkLeo. Spectators need to be able to remember there is still a human behind that esports persona. Not every top player is trying to be a villain, some just want to compete in their favorite game. I think another problem is that smash is so grassroots and it's a little bit too personal between the players and the fans. There is a conversation that needs to be had to address the grassroots scene and how it affects the relationships between top players and fans.

[@boxcart4533]

I feel like a villain ONLY IN THE GAME is kinda healthy for the game prime example being hbox in 2019 having someone to root against statistically increases viewership(not saying hbox deserved the amount of hate he got, he is imo the most hated smash player of all time and it wasn’t okay) But the moment the hate gets away from the game and discrediting them as a person? Then it gets f**ked up

[@LightKnight_Age_Of]

It was so great when the crowd was shouting Sora's moves in your final, you even got the confettis. To be sure, part of it was the crowd not pleased with Steve winning, but still the same. Probably my best Smash moment ever, very heartwarming

[@gameandwatchsonny]

It sucks that you receive this much hate from the community. I think we tend to forget that the Top players are humans too and the hate that goes around in the community is borderline insane. It also sucks that people downplay you even though you've been consistently placing high for YEARS. While the hate will always be a part of the community (just cause of the nature of e-sports) hopefully everyone will get more and more comfortable speaking out on it and we'll get to a happy middle as a community

[@elpanameno8127]

Hola Maister, no se si te acuerdes pero te mande un saludo en twitch cuando recién empezaba esto de ultimate y recuerdo que me leiste jajaja y nunca pense que ese gesto estuviera tan marcado en mi memoria. Despues de eso empece a ver tu carrera y gracias a tu forma de jugar y carisma fue que adopte a MG&W como main. Ojala la comunidad de smash estuviera mas llena de gente como tu. Y ya es historico que tu hayas hecho que Mr game sea un personaje temido en las manos correctas. Saludos desde Panamá 🇵🇦

[@smashbronikko]

Smash players really need to learn the phrase "Don't hate the player, hate the game." Cause all of these hate being put on the players is going to heavily damage the health game at best or outright kill it at worse. The former would most likely just kill it anyways.

[@rastacampa]

In France, you have many fans including me. You are the reason I now play SSBU (and gave up Melee). GnW is the most atypical character. Please keep him alive!

[@Dontannoyme34894]

If it makes you feel better, you’re the coolest smash player in my opinion 💕

[@mr.dr.epiccool]

Maister, you’re literally the reason I started playing this game, I hope you continue to improve and win a major. please don’t let the hate get to you.❤

[@kemmybelleuwu]

This issue will never end

[@Lundcraft]

I hope you see this comment, because I rarely comment on youtube in general. I been following you since I think very early Ultimate. I used to hate G&W as a character and hated when he was added to Melee and thought it was stupid. But when I saw how well you were doing, I came to love watching you play and you are one of the players I always cheer for when I watch tournament, all the way from the EU. I think it's stupid people would call you carried, when you literally put the character on the map... You are a joy to watch and no matter what, can't wait to see what you do! I'll keep cheering on!

[@wgpearcelb]

Maister, please never stop playing smash! you’re a joy to watch. I’d bet you’ll win a major in 2023. Much love man. keep going!

[@TheOwningnerds]

love you bro, never give up.

[@bigbiggoblin2873]

I remember when I discovered the competitive scene and you were the only one playing the funny cartoon guy at the top level. I appreciate you!

[@gregwarrener4848]

lmao i totally remember the 'carried' argument about your gameplay. it is ridiculous because game and watch was considered bottom tier until you started showing results. the smash community is known to be stinky and toxic also known to be biased and incapable of critical thinking on their own. as far as mango goes, he has been a sloppy drunk for years now, to the point of where taking anything he says seriously is a fault of the viewer. don't get me wrong though armada definitely has some character flaws of his own. as a person who has been in treatment for alcoholism to the point that i have substance abuse disorder, i am grieved to find out that armada is struggling with this disease. he deserves better! its too bad that sadly your video will not make a difference in the toxic nature of this community. then again, a toxic attitude is encouraged in all competitive scenes for most sports. i think the best thing to do is to try and see the haters as WWE fans who are just trying to exhale/ get their anger out in a manor that doesn't effect their day to day life. most sports stars do become punching bags for people to get their stress out unfortunately, but twitter culture takes it to the next level.

[@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569]

I think in an ideal world what Mango was saying about Armada wouldn't have resulted in anything too major as Armada would just be able to ignore what one person is saying and people would just write it off as beef similar to what you see in the WWE and not get personally involved. But since we live in a wacky world where if any person with a notable following says anything negative about someone else with a notable following, then fans take that as a sign to flood DMs and say horrible shit. Not saying Mango is not at fault as he clearly is, but at the end of the day, if it weren't for toxic fans then this likely wouldn't have been an issue to begin with.

[@uroy8371]

Algo que cambió mi vida fue aprender a ver solo lo bueno en la vida, quitándole el peso a lo malo que las personas desconocidas digan. Solo aceptar críticas de quien aprecio. Y no te compares con mi ya ni con nadie, cada quien tiene un contexto diferente, en japón personajes y estilos de juego poco comunes son aceptados, sino eres Min min xD. Solo se tu propio fan y que el resto diga lo que quiera. Cuida tu salud mental, que estés bien!

[@extonjonas6820]

You are by far my favorite player, love watching you compete, if that helps at all. Negative people are usually a lot more vocal than positive people so I will share my thoughts

[@aqua_serene]

You're one of the funniest dudes on smash KZbin and def a 10 player. It's not like G&W is Brawl Meta Knight. I people can realize these things.

[@carlosr3buenrostro5]

Ya casi termino el video y recuerdo el día que maistro le ganó al corrin de mkL y recuerdo que la gente lo trato muy mal en resumen asi a pasado no por la misma razón la mayoría son estupideces. Fuck nintendo. Tqm maistro. Pero está muy mal la toxicidad por lo que a pasado con los jugadores armada y el jugador de moist, mucha fuerza maister.

[@YoModdaFoo]

You’re an awesome guy and a huge inspiration to me and so many others, Maister. Your talent is undeniable, and I can’t imagine how hard it must be to receive so much hate, but just know you have so many people who love you and cheer you on. Also, understand that there are lots of miserable pricks with little to no social skills who hate their own shitty lives so they have to cope and spread their own self hatred towards others who definitely don’t deserve it. Just know those people aren’t going anywhere in life and they are literally worthless to you! They’re so invested in this video game (which is crazy because they’re fucking shit at it) to the point where their main goal is to spread hate. They say they don’t care about smash but it lives in their heads rent free. So do you. Your success bothers complete failures who wish they could be anywhere near as talented as you. Keep on going, bro. FUCK NINTENDO BTW!

[@TheOwningnerds]

smash hate is stupid man. is just a game. why u haff to be mad

[@omarrios2836]

Maister is a GOAT. Gracias por representarnos

[@mckibbiepiggies6779]

I hope you stay in the scene maister. You are a super cool dude and you are an absolute pioneer with G&W and you put that character on the map. Sorry to hear you get so much hate the smash community can be real toxic sometimes.

[@Rubyfire41]

Good luck Maister. It doesn't take a magnifying glass to see this community's cesspool of an underbelly. Sure, this community can be very cool, but it doesn't mean much when everybody acts the way they do about the things they find annoying. Whether it comes to character play styles, strategies, character discussions, or even the players themselves.The most toxic aspect of the community will rear its ugly head no matter what. I hope you'll be able to bounce back from this with something positive.

[@raidiar2021]

I've recently begun watching more Twitch streams on majors, and the toxicity of Twitch chat is fucking absurd. I don't understand what makes these people so bitter.

[@kennethkim4278]

Maister, you were one of the first few players I started watching that inspired me to get into competitive play and u made me a gnw believer bf he was even on the radar as a good character, and it was exciting to see u push gnw to the top. It really sucks to see what a shitty community a game u love has (not to mention Nintendo, fuck Nintendo). I just keep my ssbu circle small and keep my interactions with the community minimal, but i can only imagine how hard it must be to avoid the toxicity as a top player. Hope you dont go too soon and see you win a major bc you deserve it

[@SuperHalo-rn4rr]

Yeah, the character hate in smash is one of the oddest things in the community to me. Sometimes it comes off as a literal "Big Brother" mentality, where the older kid is like "That character is for babies, you can't play that character." and then everyone else kind of mimics it..but instead it's literal adults with smash. It gets to the extreme when they start hating a person simply for playing the character and then bashing them. But what makes it even weirder is, Smash often gets bashed by other FG communities for being considered a party game or "lame", and everyone fights tooth and nail for otherwise. Then the community itself does a full 360 and "lame-ify" any character that they either didn't grow up with, isn't on what they think a "god-tier" character is, or have a personal bias against. Like it's one thing to not like a character, it's another to think it's okay to hate a person for playing the character or just outright bashing them because a player with said character won or beat someone with them. Smash I always felt was supposed to be a game for everyone, people gatekeeping just makes it feel less so sometimes.

[@aegishdaego]

From France, i do think that peoples here respect you a lot. Even tho for the show we like to say that you're like the 2nd GateKeeper. When dabuz protect the gate of the PGR, you protect the gate of the super top player, the same tier as Leo, Tweek, Sparg0 or even the best of them all, GLUTONNY POUND 2022 STYLE. Anyways, hopefully i wasn't rude in my comment as it isn't my attention at all and you will recover from this sht and be more happy than ever, with or without smash. After all your life is more important that what some twitter dude thinks about your potential legacy.

[@adamcallandrillo8702]

5:45 literally politics in the U.S. Edit: fuck nintendo

[@oak6_]

fuck nintendo

[@farissan6631]

I honestly never knew Melee had such a toxic community. I thought they were better than ultimate. Especially since the game has has out for a longer time and I would have thought the community would be more reformed. If you are good then you are good. You aren't carried, the others just can't beat you. I am gonna be honest, I hate watching you play game and watch, but it doesn't mean I should ghost you or make your life miserable. You are a human being after all and this is a game. Play who you enjoy and if you beat people then good for you. I feel like the rise of social media is what makes communities toxic. Just don't look at haters, they are salty because you beat their fatherly figure after their father left for milk. You and every other smash player can be better at rejecting hate and I appreciate the fact that you made a video talking about it and starting with yourself.

[@tinyt.w.i.m7291]

“I don’t wanna die for them to miss me” Maister, probably

[@Bwuas]

People only care about you when you're gone, never while you're around.

[@jothehutt7946]

We love you maister

[@Sharkeisha1]

Is your name maister from maister seymore from ff10?

[@twilink666]

Te amamos maister, tu comercial de total play fue la mamada!!!

[@AlanJHPlata]

Hay link de eso? No lo encuentro :,v

[@twilink666]

Fue creo para un smash factor, total play fue patrocinador y maister saco un comercial con ellos, estuvo bien rifado jajaja

[@user-fr5jkh36d]

英語読めないから誰か要約してくれ 多分誹謗中傷問題なのは分かる

[@AlanJHPlata]

Try using the translator: Maister (Game & Watch) stated that he feels depressed that his accomplishments are not taken into consideration by a large part of the community to the point the community would refer to Miya (Game & Watch) to be better than Maister (Game & Watch) because he has won a couple of tournaments in Japan. Maister (Game & Watch) also stated that he doesn't care about Miya (Game & Watch) on weather he is better than him, Maister (Game & Watch) just feels like his efforts should also be appreciated.

[@drkong333]

it sucks that so many people discredit u because of a character or some other bs man If it means anything I always cheer for u, I love watching you play and I hope ur successful in smash and other aspects of ur life dude 🌟🌟

[@Jujuboy0]

F Nintendo

[@oak6_]

F nintendo

[@pixlize]

I want more game and watch content wtf

[@oak6_]

wtf bro, this is a serious subject

[@usern4metak3ns]

Smash hate is dumb yes but then there's leffin and smash hate makes sense again