Smash Players Are Way Too Honest

Interesting interaction between iBDW and Kodorin after a game of Super Smash Bros Melee.
Sorry for the repost. Dunno where i'm taking this channel. I'll keep up doing Melee clips, but i'm also interested in making some gaming video essays in the future.
If you're interested in having a video editor, hit me up on Twitter:
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Sources:
iBDW vs Kodorin at Scuffed World Tour: • iBDW (Fox) vs. KoDoRiN...
iBDW vs Kodorin at Redemption Rumble: ... There's no vods yet. Wait a couple days.
#ssbm #melee #smashbros

[@animellowssbm]

We need more of this. Not sure how you isolated their conversation but thank you. I watched this live on twitch and had no idea what they were saying. Would love to collab on a video in the future if you are interested.

[@WesM369]

This was one of the few times they put the volume up for the player mic

[@TheChucknoxus]

I got really mad when the commentators couldn't shut up for a second after most matches at this event.

[@tysquirt111]

The nice thing is that we're reaching an era where it is increasingly "easier" to sustain yourself as a top player without winning tournaments. A player like S2J doesn't need to win tournaments to have an income, just as long as they have a streaming platform they can build. By making your competition better, you increase the hype, and you draw more attention to your stream. The feedback loop allows for a net positive, regardless of win or loss. Hearing IBDW give tips to his opponent makes me that much more likely to watch his stream, because I know that he's working to build up the players around him.

[@natttemantv1977]

@@TheChucknoxus Scar and Toph have to be two of the worst commentators ever to grace a competitive sport. I have never listened to a set they've commentated where they didn't bring up some completely irrelevant bullshit or just talk about themselves. people just think they're good because they've been here for so long

[@olie567]

@@natttemantv1977 im in yo hood boy take off yo hood

[@nihatnihat8264]

Cody exchanges advices with Zain too. He's talked about it. According to his philosophy, that helps both players. Even only giving other advice on how to beat him is something he thinks helps him too

[@RipleySawzen]

Cody is so fucking honest. He might love this game more than any of us.

[@ravssb]

Cody did the same thing to me at Phantom 2022 and I’m still very thankful

[@Oz1455]

If I only had an ounce of humility to accept criticism (and outright ask for it) like he did...

[@thenauman]

its hard to not like cody, very humble and has true love for the game. one of the best competitors melee has ever seen.

[@funnyperson4027]

Idk man, no matter how much I watch of him I just don’t like him. I don’t even have a reason I just don’t lmao

[@Nognamogo]

He helps people when things are going his way, but in the past, he's acted in ways that make him seem like a sore loser.

[@twixchexmix]

@@funnyperson4027 i get it, not the biggest fan of him either but love him or hate him you can’t deny his genuine passion for the game and for evolving the meta

[@Trancerrr]

@@Nognamogo reverse pop off

[@sauce8277]

@@Nognamogo It’s difficult to know who is real sometimes. People do what you say because it makes them puff themselves up by talking about what they know. It’s a twisted way of helping people. But he could be completely legit. Just hard to tell with people sometimes.

[@DrewOPowell]

Awesome video and great editing. Videos like these are what the melee community needs :)

[@FirePuff12]

I love this video so much

[@diegoalquicira5484]

it’s fine

[@raidiar2021]

I found myself coming back here a few times. This video is so sweet.

[@natttemantv1977]

wtf this video is 9 days old. you commented this 5 days ago, so in the span of 4 days you came back here several times? XD

[@raidiar2021]

@@natttemantv1977 yup.

[@igniviscos]

its these moments that really cement an actual good competitive scene. Its just so sick to see

[@kwonza-gamingandanime5727]

I don't think this is "way too honest" - this is honest competition and love for the game.

[@haleyjadelovethatname]

i actually loved this! i love seeing this!

[@jimsface]

You gotta be able to take feedback even if it comes across as harsh. There’s always something to learn, something to improve. Good on Cody for sharing his thoughts and good on Kodorin for listening and not taking harsh words personally.

[@Pennerman]

I do this when I play with my best friend. At this point I win like maybe 80-90% of the time but as soon as I see a bad pattern or him not being aware of a specific dynamic in the game I tell him immediately. It’s nice to have someone who is at eye level when playing smash so I like seeing him improve every time we play.

[@thisguy64]

I play at small locals on occasions, and when I win a set, I love it when players ask what they could've done better to beat me.. and I do the same

[@ludovicdedier8933]

wholesome content !

[@beegmacc]

No egos, no hate, just people wanting to progress the meta and push a 20+ year old game as much as they possibly can because they love playing and competing. Awesome.

[@lili_____]

this is so wholesome

[@souzousplinters7128]

very cool video great job

[@Adventureruler]

Melee is the best smash game

[@Utopia1616]

Based

[@lambchu6459]

🅱️elee

[@yan_dj]

I disagree 🏃

[@astr0sauce]

Ultimate better but Melee is not far behind

[@floatingshoppinglist5193]

@@astr0sauce LMAO

[@Pleasantries]

so cool :)

[@Omaga297]

"that's when its about the bag/money, but we ain't got that". Just pure love for the game, that's all it is.

[@DinoVillanovaMusic]

simply respect, its never personal all technique

[@danielvelkov116]

This is like Magnus and hikaru talking after a chess game

[@natttemantv1977]

yeahhhhhhhhhh no

[@GraViTyAboVe]

Yup.

[@mynamejot8623]

Some fantastic constructive criticism

[@codetaku]

Cody took after Zain and was drinking on Day 2 though lol. I don't think he was like completely smashed the way Zain was all weekend but it definitely wasn't the same quality of win as when Kodorin beat Cody at Pound, or 2021's mainstage.

[@Lavkia]

Agree I def think there's still a skill gap between them. Even with Cody playing far from his 100%, he's the one that kicked Kodorin to the loser's bracket before falling there himself But Cody even mentioned on twitter that he believed Kodorin had leveled up and "felt like a completely different player" It's definitely not a decisive win, but still a huge improvement from Kodorin in just two weeks

[@Jemeysontaylor3]

That was actually honest and professional.

[@SanzoArts]

Not every smasher is like this, Hbox for example just mocks you and walks away

[@natttemantv1977]

I love it when Hbox busts out the fortnite emotes and then laughs as he takes his private jet back to his secluded mansion in Florida. See I can be delusional too

[@libra4212]

Not better than the legendary and most useful advice "don't get hit"

[@HeelBubz]

Wasn't Cody also hungover in that 2nd set?

[@JungleCrook]

tried to always be like this in Scrabble but my personality leads to me messin around too much and people taking what i say the wrong way/not realize when im joking

[@nath700]

Bobby Scar

[@kaseyjamesborr5854]

He didn’t say “you’re not good yet” 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@justinmadrid8712]

So he gave tips to his opponent then lost to him.

[@jakebradley2517]

almost like he was actually trying to improve the level of competition

[@justinmadrid8712]

@@jakebradley2517 Helping your opponent is lowering the competition. That's like saying losing on purpose is improving the competition.

[@dannytoomey86]

@@justinmadrid8712 Making someone better by giving advice doesn't make your skill go down, but it might improve someone else's ability. The level of competition isn't relative to oneself, it's an average strength of all competitors in a field. If he'd given him that advice during the match I'd agree it's bad for competition, but there's nothing wrong with competitors helping each other outside of the match.

[@justinmadrid8712]

@@dannytoomey86 That's true.

[@jakebradley2517]

@@justinmadrid8712 increasing the level in the players around you in turn makes you a better player through better competition. its why top players practice together.

[@plabcentral630]

What if it’s a high level bait so Cody can go high to low without fearing down tilt. I mean it’s not but it would be funny.

[@tehpwnerer7]

Man I fucking love melee

[@loverlover34]

I appreciate Cody's honesty here but he seriously needs to learn how give constructive criticism in a more social well adjusted way lmaoooo I honestly worry about this man so much in my heart of hearts

[@scuttt1752]

i fucking love this

[@A_K1ra_]

Back in the day, me and my friends would send the loser the "How to play Smash" vid, not too far off

[@678rex]

IBDW is such a wholesome dude

[@venheartzeil3070]

Is this bait?

[@dannytoomey86]

Love this video but this is the furthest thing for being *too* honest. Kodorin asked for some advice and Cody gave him a detailed answer about a flaw he noticed in his play. Being any less honest would just entail making his answer worse and less accurate.

[@ianfink2751]

I thought this was gonna be sad cringe shit, but it was strangely wholesome...I fink

[@swarmk5809]

but can they combat toothpaste?

[@BucketCG]

what?

[@swarmk5809]

@@BucketCG their teeth are orange

[@BucketCG]

@@swarmk5809 its probably the color correction on the camera weirdo

[@swarmk5809]

@@BucketCG uh nope, im a melee fan. ive seen both their teeth be orange in many videos. nerd.

[@BucketCG]

@@swarmk5809 why are you looking at their teeth so much 💀

[@agravy7657]

This is what communities are all about.

[@CubeCF]

Click-bait titles are extremely cliche. I was reluctant to watch your video simply because of it and when I found out iBDW never said what you implied he said through the thumbnail it only made me think less of the channel. The video was extremely well edited and superb in every way and doesn't need the click-bait sell out to get good views, imo.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

Still not a fan of IBDW but he isn't as terrible of a person as I wanted him to be.

[@TriopsTrilobite]

He isn’t a terrible person, straight up. Why would you say something that?

[@RicardoHernandez-ze9qv]

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