Other people have been telling me to lessen my dash approach and when I heard about the up analog stick walking method... let’s just say I need more time to work on my neutral now lol Great video again RoninX! This will definitely help us Shoto mains again
@sturdyman4 жыл бұрын
"Watch the space BETWEEN you and your opponent" really helped me visualize this idea better. P.S - Get the coaching, these videos help supplement the information that Ronin delivers
@flamescion49464 жыл бұрын
Low key, I definitely needed this lol. I'm glad you posted this
@raghavpatel7204 жыл бұрын
Bi0t0rch especially in isolation
@nemz38774 жыл бұрын
Movement has been one of my main issues for a long time, I've got all the combos, jab resets and tech chases down but, I wanted to find more ways of approaching and playing a safer neutral. Most of which I've been struggling to cover you've gone over in the vid so thanks for giving me a better understanding of fundamentals I can improve.
@zel_90954 жыл бұрын
I still cannot believe the safety of dashwalk HDtilt and the options out of it.
@wit7774 жыл бұрын
Hey man could u please tell me the options out of it? I dont quite understand the implications. The only useful one I could see is cancel into roundhouse but i cant do that input out of dash walk hdtilt. it always turns into shoruken. Thanks for the help man
@zel_90954 жыл бұрын
Wit Sorry for taking so long but some examples are hitting people if they attempt to use a oos option, being a generally strong spacing tool, and fireball tech chasing, tatsu, being able to use whatever you have conditioned someone to do if you hit shield say jump you could chase them with an up b or focus if they are trying to punish you.
@wit7774 жыл бұрын
@@zel_9095 No worries thx for getting back to me. That makes sense! Appreciate the help man
@chetkie47334 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing, actually desperate for a movement guide
@andrebaxter40234 жыл бұрын
Good to see that you are doing well during the Quarantine dude.
@kingwasabi44074 жыл бұрын
Really help full man! I Open my eyes to see options covers the opponents options
@end35944 жыл бұрын
Lately been trying to micro space and shimmy around the burst options of my friends, I’ve been getting smacked around lately, but I can feel my self get better and better, can’t wait to get good with this movement
@Fightzpike4 жыл бұрын
HELL yes. the moment i saw the title i screamed in excitement. also, you know u said u didn’t wanna fight hbox’s puff? well, i fought him, and he’s not actually as annoying as i thought lol; i actually got a comeback against him.
@raghavpatel7204 жыл бұрын
Will you make a video talking about what buffs, nerfs, or changes you want to see in specific characters?
@RoninX-uo8uy4 жыл бұрын
hmm...not a bad Idea
@fatalis_swmg4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely godlike. You're like the Albert Einstein of Ken!
@ryanepps21834 жыл бұрын
Yo I finally got the dash walks down and their sooooo godlike. His nuetral improves so much if you do this because then people can't punish Ken's disappointment of a fox trot. Everyone should def try this stuff out it's mad good
@SuperSaiyanPhysique4 жыл бұрын
Could you explain when you were getting punished before for fox trotting? I'd love to add dashwalking to my game too.
@ryanepps21834 жыл бұрын
Ken's dash kinda blows because he does a little leap foward that takes him off the ground and when he's landing it has a bit of lag which sucks. Dash walking goes farther and makes you think more rather than brainlessly flicking the analog stick. Usually when trying to mix up or approach I would just instantly get punished because of my dash's lag. For other characters results may vary but it's a rlly good tech to learn
@titannguyen31004 жыл бұрын
Soith 05 Im having trouble doing this tech, can you tell me how to get it?
@SuperSaiyanPhysique4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanepps2183 interesting thanks man.
@ryanepps21834 жыл бұрын
@Fauro, it's weird to explain, but basically you're gonna flick and hold the stick foward and as you gain foward momentum instantly hold the analog stick up or down. If you're familiar with sliding tilts or the RAR tech it's very similar. Try putting more emphasis on the part where you hold the dash and then a little less on the holding up/down
@yano44734 жыл бұрын
Dashwalk feels like the closest option to melee's wavedash versatility-wise.
@firemane34984 жыл бұрын
Great video! Once again thank you!
@piercedevaughn41804 жыл бұрын
Bro your guides are amazing thank you so much!!!
@ryuhoshi22754 жыл бұрын
Hey Ronin! I'm Saucy on twitch Do you always use Hard up tilt or Heavy Jab on shield?
@UrbanChamp4 жыл бұрын
At 14:27 How do you input the Light D-tilt > Heavy D-tilt > Roundhouse combo? And the run up approach version at 15:51? I feel C-stick doesn't string together the light and heavy properly.
@RoninX-uo8uy4 жыл бұрын
Down on cstick, hold down after and hold A then special cancel into roundhouse
@UrbanChamp4 жыл бұрын
@@RoninX-uo8uy wow thanks man I will give this a shot, I'm using the Joy-cons and boi is it hard on there! Anyway keep up with the videos man they're insightful.
@DiggThePump4 жыл бұрын
Yo how is no one talking about the chill song you used to calmly beat down people. What song was used in the montage? Just like the info in the vid, it’s fire
@wit7774 жыл бұрын
Nice job on this guide man. This is great. Though, I have a question for anyone who has an answer. When ur walking and they close the space to an unreactable space. (They just walk forward a bit). Are you supposed to keep retreating to reactable distance and corner yourself? That keeps happening to me. What are you supposed to do if they close the distance a bit?
@RoninX-uo8uy4 жыл бұрын
You need to control the ground with hadoken and spacing your normals to while watching there response that way you can find a pattern to exploit based on how they react
@wit7774 жыл бұрын
@@RoninX-uo8uy awesome, I'll give it a try! Thanks man.
@deltad35924 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Ken feels the most like a character right out of the FGC, simply because how similar a lot of this is to SFIV
@MF_RUNE4 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Ryu next?
@trainerredalabastia11714 жыл бұрын
Do you think it is helpful that you can cancel down b even after a hit? Because i've never seen somebody doing this.
@AkumaLord914 жыл бұрын
Wow.. I was dash walking differently. Start a dash, go to neutral on the stick, then start a walk. After seeing the walking tip of holding up I made another way to do it but just go to up-forward (9) instead of neutral. Comes out the same though, cant tell which is easier. This also works with buffered input commands for a sliding input commands if you input them in between the dash and the walk..
@standardyeepz7 ай бұрын
i assume you can use this logic with terry as well ?
@deltahalo34984 жыл бұрын
Ronin what is micro spacing because my movement isn’t that good
@ethandevera20884 жыл бұрын
Can u make an updated vid on how to approach? Like dash in tilt and nair gets punished literally every time for me
@wit7774 жыл бұрын
Can u please make a pika guide I have such a hard time applying these principles to pikachu and getting out of disadvantage. And a lot of ppl on the discord have the same issues! Shotos vs pika please!
@gabetv62804 жыл бұрын
Yes pls i also struggle heaps against pikachu
@Jam_N_Out4 жыл бұрын
what was that shield break setup, hard uptilt into focus, bruh
@Casper_Knight_Music4 жыл бұрын
hey chief what buttons you got mapped ?
@RoninX-uo8uy4 жыл бұрын
tilt stick, L set to jump, R shield, Z set to shield as well and I have Y for grab. everything else is default
@irasapa964 жыл бұрын
When is up smash or strong f tilt usable? O.o
@ryanepps21834 жыл бұрын
sebii96 Up smash out of shield hella good and strong f tilt is too small on the sweet spot to be even remotely practical. Still funny if you do a sliding tilt at around 120% and land the sweet spot they die lol
@ironbar20094 жыл бұрын
Strong f tilt is when you want to meme. Its ken’s version of falcon punch because lowkey it be disrespectful asf
@deltahalo34984 жыл бұрын
I think I can do micro spacing now
@phillfraggy4 жыл бұрын
Ken is so much fun but honestly they could've made him hard to use without making him ridiculously skill oriented. Other characters just throw attacks out and don't have to worry about end lag or they can spam projectiles without a care in the world but for the shotos as you covered they can't even dash without being in trouble
@Sammm11114 жыл бұрын
Social distancing
@cullenhutchison65284 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to true punish jumping away after crescent kick?
@Tidal_FGC4 жыл бұрын
Not that I know of but dash walk shoryu or full hop u air to shoryu may work
@notjesuss1204 жыл бұрын
so I dropped Ryu to pick up Terry, and then I dropped Terry to pick up Ken
@Spoz204 жыл бұрын
Where's the Ryu neutral guide?
@RoninX-uo8uy4 жыл бұрын
I have one up already on the channel
@Spoz204 жыл бұрын
@@RoninX-uo8uy Is that the Hadoken guide?
@YangyChaddyDad4 жыл бұрын
@@Spoz20 well Ryu's nuteral does basically revolve around that so it couldn't hurt
@Spoz204 жыл бұрын
@@YangyChaddyDad just thought there was more to it I guess
@RoninX-uo8uy4 жыл бұрын
@@Spoz20 The one I have is a bit dated so I may just make a neutral guide soon.
@kuuja43454 жыл бұрын
Biblical
@hamzaabdullahi10864 жыл бұрын
which of the fighting characters is the best cause I think ken but I am unsure
@RoninX-uo8uy4 жыл бұрын
Future video
@hamzaabdullahi10864 жыл бұрын
@@RoninX-uo8uy can't wait for that
@KmchiMf4 жыл бұрын
Can’t do this on joycon can you?😂
@notjesuss1204 жыл бұрын
bro I want some 1 on 1 training hur I dont have Twitter or discord ://
@notjesuss1204 жыл бұрын
never mind I just got discord. how do i join your discord
@RoninX-uo8uy4 жыл бұрын
@@notjesuss120 add me. my name and numbers in the description