Smashing Pumpkins Live Nulle Part Ailleurs (Canal+, 18/05/1998)

(C) Droits réservés
Interview + 2 titres live
Smashing Pumpkins "Adore"
présentateur: Guillaume Durand

[@Peteuncable]

J’étais devant ma tv ce soir là

[@travisv6408]

Miss Darcy playing bass and beautiful singing.

[@williams2652]

D'Arcy "The Ice Queen" is the definition of Sexy in my book. Rock on Sweet Woman Rock on!

[@fonkyjunkie]

Remember watching it live this evening. Pretty cool

[@AndreasDivus1]

D'arcy definitely steals the show!

[@eaglebauer944]

How? Her timing is slightly off and she misses notes all the time. Sure, she never was a good bass player to begin with, but all the drugs made her playing even worse. Sad.

[@AndreasDivus1]

@@eaglebauer944 It's not like the music's any fucking good. Billy Corgan's a tool.

[@eaglebauer944]

@@AndreasDivus1 All of them are, but on top of everything D'arcy is an extremely lousy musician and her boobs don't make up for it. I never understood the hype around her. She doesn't even played on the studio albums, since Corgan did most of the bass parts for her. A display dummy with a drug problem.

[@AndreasDivus1]

@@eaglebauer944 All of that makes sense. I just find her pretty. Or I used to anyway. A matter of taste I suppose...?

[@eaglebauer944]

@@AndreasDivus1 Yeah, she really was pretty back in the day, probably the main reason she was in the band in the first place. I had a huge crush on her myself during the Gish/Siamese Dream era. But when she turned into an android during the second half of the 90s, I lost interest.

[@burtreynolds2969]

People are cheering louder for the overhead camera than they are the band. My favourite D'arcy outfit right here.

[@fluide000]

Remember watching this live on french tv, blessing that no longer existing ”Nulle Part Ailleurs” tv show , considered by many French as the best show in history, as it offered us exclusive stuff like what you are watching right now on this video : the amazing opportunity to see your favorite foreign bands playing songs that quite nobody heard before (and regarding the SP, in that period where the whole planet was impatient to heard what the band would do after the very, very big impact their previous album Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness did on the 90s alternative rock scene, i can tell you that it was quite a HUGE thing), at a time i was too young to go see them playing live and my parents didn't have internet at home yet... The quite frustrating thing was that the presenter told that the band played 2 songs broadcasted live for the TV viewers, and an exclusive 3rd one for the present on spot public... i still don't know what was that mysterious 3rd song.

[@vacancebravo8025]

That's sure fantastic concert

[@corgan59]

if i remenber it was Daphne Descends

[@Plan9fr34]

It was Daphne Descends indeed and it was broadcast in a special 1 hour program “The Smashing Pumpkins live at Canal+”

[@Plan9fr34]

You can see the program here but they cut the song that was a the beginning: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e36VlYyZfrhrl9U

[@1...MusicVideo]

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[@MooScree]

D'arcy's best outfit ever. ;)

[@wallmethod]

Hahahaha

[@Texocracy]

Jimmi Simpson Guess what Jimmi... being hot is a talent. It's actually better than talent, because anyone can practice, but if you're born ugly there's no amount of practice that can help you. Bands are more than just sound... image is make or break. D'arcy's nipples and cool makeup sell tickets and albums. Girls know it takes work to look consistently hot and interesting. Pussy makes the world go round, Billy Corgan knew that perfectly well. He picked a girl that was up to the task. Also, with bass, complex doesn't equal good. She did what needed to be done, she played whatever Billy told her to play while looking hot. Give credit where credit is due.

[@MetricMod]

She looks amazing, but at this time, Billy was already looking for a replacement. Her addiction had destroyed her voice. Plus Kenny (drummer) and Billy were realizing she was incapable of playing the songs on a nightly basis. She was a ghost at this point. Unfortunately, from this point she turned into just another unemployable drug addict. Luckily, she has her life back now

[@wallmethod]

BANG _vg oh but she looks different now. I wonder if another reunion is possible

[@nderohan]

Billy & Darcy being all goth and James is just James!

[@shunyataberlin]

he goth by nature

[@noticiasluiscarnero]

D'arcy is perfect

[@firebirdgao]

Ils étaient sur le toit du monde à cette époque

[@AndreeAndree-li5zz]

ouais période look nosferatu, on ne sait même pas faire l'interview tellement les gens crient !

[@tesrockcoco1]

Perfect ❤❤❤

[@jayhanneman8962]

Hot Damn, D'arcy!

[@Dex000x]

Jimmy Chamberlain really made this band special. Without him, they've average at best.

[@umpcaca]

Est-ce ma jeunesse qui me manque ou des émissions qui en avaient dans le slop pour inviter de tels artistes ? C'est vrai que ces artistes n'étaient pas sur le declin ...

[@Bulbagaba992]

The three original members looked their best and finest here, but somehow there’s that subtle hint that they’re unhappy and miserable. I’m glad Billy finally mended fences and worked again with James and Jimmy. Still praying and hoping for a resolution with D’Arcy. She IS and she defined the Smashing Pumpkins vibe and look.

[@dynjarren7523]

It would have been cool if she showed up for one show maybe in Chicago to get some appreciation and love from the fans. But according to what I read, she was in rehab before and recovered from a drug addiction and her therapist told her to avoid triggers that set her backward into the drug lifestyle. So she had to pass on the Reunion Tour because it would have triggered her into bad and unhealthy behavior again. So for her continued health and recovery she passed on the tour. She probably would have made millions too. But a ton of money is bad if your tempted to spend it on drugs and possible self destruction. I personally think she probably made the right call even though I badly wanted to see her on stage with everyone at least once! But what can you do? Your health is number one. I wish her well! 👏🏻🎸😎

[@Bulbagaba992]

Dyn Jarren yes. Right call for her. Hoping she recovers completely and get on her feet again. But I do hope that she finally overcomes her demons so she can reunite with Billy and the guys. It would be great to see them again. It’s the 90s all over again.

[@auroraborealis6398]

cette euphorie me manque..

[@corgan59]

tu parles, les gens gueule ppour passer a la TV......il doit avoir au plus 10% de Fans et encore.....

[@herveb.511]

​@@corgan59 j'y etais et j'etais fan

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[@antoine8142]

3:10 que commence enfin Ava adore pour ceux que ça interessent

[@Pasqualepierro]

D'Arcy era veramente bella in questo periodo

[@matquin7393]

quel groupe Extra !

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[@user-ii4vn8hw7z]

Finally a video with equal camera time for D'Arcy.

[@dynjarren7523]

Darcy is cute as Hell with her little Devil horns and James always looks cool. Billy has the longest sleeves I’ve ever seen.

[@bigbowlowrong4694]

There is nothing less cool than the glasses the drummer is wearing

[@hankb7725]

that's what makes them so cool

[@lucianom3585]

Welcome to the 90s :) . Bono wore something similar too. They seem to be cycling glasses.

[@RunOfTheHind]

The "divorcee at the gym" look.

[@ramonrojas5816]

Devil in a transparency hotter than hell

[@magnojunior8764]

Jolie👌🤘🤓🎩🇧🇷🇨🇵🇺🇸

[@Benj75]

🌠

[@wildwillie5408]

i never realized uncle fester was in the pumpkins

[@chelysdiecastracingchannel]

Le début de la fin des Smashing. Un de leur pire album. C’est triste de faire des joyaux comme Gish, Siamese Dream, Piscies Iscariot, bon Mellon Collie on voyait déjà que ça y est c’était presque fini (juste les morceaux “rock” defoncent et tout le reste c’est de la merde…) puis la, Adore, gros foutage de gueule à l’époque. J’achetais systématiquement leurs disques, j’avais pas acheté Mellon Collie déjà car je sentais l’embrouille, puis j’ai bien fait de complètement décrocher après ça. C’est triste. Comme Radiohead, Pearl Jam, et plein d’autres groupes de l’époque qui ont essayé de se “réinventer” alors que ça ne servait à rien, nous les fans on voulait écouter la même musique. Même Chamberlain s’est tiré sur cet album, comme quoi….. Si, Zeigeist était un bon album, mais il n’est plus trouvable nulle part. Ni en streaming, ni dans les magazins. D’autre part, ils ont oublié de brancher le micro de d’Arcy, mais c’est un détail. Je pense que Corgan ne voulait qu’on entende que sa voix. Bref, c’est nul. Et c’est exactement ce que je me suis dit en 98 devant ma télé.

[@vonclohk507]

Crankin the mad max screw loose look.

[@RunOfTheHind]

"I see the death of grunge coming. And all the kids seem to like this guy Marilyn Manson. Hmmm, I know! I'll dress like Uncle Fester! The kids'll love it! Goth is the way of the future!"

[@branco7043]

IHA looks like AKIRA from Devilman...Cool!

[@wallmethod]

Billy you scared the shit out me haha... you look like a tall shadow man in the Woods!

[@corgan59]

l'effet de guitare a la fin d'ava adore de Billy je ne l'ai jamais réentendu dans une autre version de la chanson

[@qbsrd]

corgan59 Je crois que c'est une Flanger ;)

[@vacancebravo8025]

C'est pour ca que ce concert restera un grand moment

[@asktehdust]

c'est un phaser et sur toute cette tournée il finit le titre comme ça.

[@corgan59]

@@asktehdust non je parle de l’effet de guitare....si tu parles d'un pistolet o vois James l'utiliser pendant pleins de lives..

[@corgan59]

@@qbsrd merci oui effectivement

[@Texocracy]

10:14 @ .25x speed

[@zeptepi7931]

Thumbs up for 9:08

[@SirMespompes]

Hahaha Billy n'arrive même pas à jouer avec ses manches trop longues !!!

[@mikogale]

9:21 - 9.28 damn

[@hankb7725]

yeah man, hot

[@petersimo6083]

2 drummers, 3 drummers but still it sounds soft and haze. A lot of effort, but no effect.🥁

[@phenixreturns]

Aronoff on drums

[@iditarod4081]

What city and country is this in? Palm trees and french?

[@bluesman3849]

city of Cannes (south of France)

[@iditarod4081]

@@bluesman3849 Thanks! (Canal+=cannes?). Looks nice!

[@bluesman3849]

@@iditarod4081 Canal+ is the name of a french TV channel. During the Cannes Film Festival, the TV shows of Canal+ take place in Cannes.

[@iditarod4081]

@@bluesman3849 nice. Ive always wanted to go to france & cannes someday...hopefully b4 my college french dissipates too much more 🏋️‍♂️😗😎😯

[@Carminebonzo]

J’adore le premier titre qu’ils jouent mais je ne trouve pas le nom du morceau..😰

[@arnomaout]

Ava adore

[@Carminebonzo]

@@arnomaoutmerci beaucoup !👍👍

[@ericbishoff2086]

et Bono à la batterie

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[@petrosstyle2981]

D'arcy must be heavily on drugs here

[@tomlechat3778]

Comment réussir avec une voix de chiotte dans le rock. Bravo les smashing pump

[@shunyataberlin]

cool period but thank god Jimmy came home 😁

[@seerstone8982]

Jimmy was such a huge part of The Pumpkins sound. Doesn't matter how good or how many drummers take the kit, it doesn't have the chemistry. Chamberlain's absence is very noticeable to the true fans.

[@chelysdiecastracingchannel]

@@seerstone8982totally agreed. The drummer here is pure shit.

[@ajh21313]

I watch this... And I can really go for some breast milk right about now...

[@huguesderosier4182]

joe satriani on the drumkit?

[@StarZendonna1687]

No its Kenny Aronoff John Mellencamp's former drummer

[@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer]

This was a good album but honestly I think the entire "Adore" era was overshadowed by the shtick. The horns, the inch wide goth eye makeup, the witch/black priest/vampire robes and outfits, the weird, goggle wearing bicyclist on the drums and the two fat random boomers on the keyboards and random tambourines and congas.

[@codersexpo1580]

Aronoff != Jimmy Chamberlain sorry, love the guy and he is awesome but lacking that "feel". It's not his fault either...Jimmy was just THAT good.

[@corgan59]

me revoila 10mois plus tard, je regarde l'interview et je me demande "mais, le public gueule comme des cons parce que c les Pumpkins (ce que j'aurais fait) ou gueulent pour passer a la Tv?????, nan mais sérieux..........

[@merdez99]

parce qu'ils sont fans...

[@corgan59]

@@merdez99 non

[@zeptepi7931]

how did that drummer get the gig, nightmare full throttle banging.

[@lucianom3585]

And it's amazing :)

[@chelysdiecastracingchannel]

That doesn’t groove at all, this drummer is pure shit. And he makes mistakes. Listen to Chamberlain.

[@imbuevirtue]

Why the fuck does the crowd keep screaming like it’s hype hummers, 8/

[@Totuudenilmaisija]

Vocalist terrible

[@Enough.Said.]

What the hell? Does D'arcy even know the lyrics? It doesn't look like she's singing the same song as Billy.

[@TheeCambion]

Dem titties dough?

[@8877robert]

She always does that. Like she is acting to be sure people see her singing. Billy is loud. Dont know why she does it but it's probably to make clear she is also singing. Her voice does come thru at intervals on many songs..but ofen it's not coming thru. Love all this stuff and dont care really, I think the songs where ou can only hear her sing one word.. like " money" on Cherub rock work, i think it all "works"...but it is interesting and agree sometimes it looks as if shes on a differnt song.

[@chelysdiecastracingchannel]

That’s why her mic is off 🤷🏻‍♂️🤡

[@kristdelgado]

This is the worst era for the Pumpkins: Kenny and MIke (the drummer and keyboard player) couldn't really replace the punch of Jimmy Chamberlin

[@oax6848]

I have to agree, though the drummer dude puts his all into it, he's not even half way there to the JC 'feel'

[@gedimangediman]

Adore is their best album... so

[@zeptepi7931]

drummer is poo, no feel/

[@jameshood1928]

They might have been better off without the drummer. Not in Jimmy's class. D'arcy looking ravishing cool. Best rock band at their zenith.

[@vonclohk507]

Yep these songs are week.

[@SIL3X898]

Je me souviens avoir vu cette émission en direct j'attendais ça avec grande impatience on avait mis le magnétoscope et je me souviens aussi de la grande déception d'avoir entendu deux titres franchement médiocre et complètement en dessous de ce qu'on avait entendu jusque-là c'était le début du déclin du groupe donc cette vidéo est pour moi le départ vers le bas de mon ex Groupe préféré de mon adolescence. Et oui alors que montaient Radiohead et Muse qui leur ont volés la première place! SMASH : 3rd place

[@bluesman3849]

Pas faux ! le reste après 1998 sera moins inspiré

[@aloha_aloha]

Muse qui a volé la place des Smashing? Que ne faut-il pas lire ... Adore est mon disque préféré du groupe et je crois ne pas être le seul dans ce cas. Réécoutez le !

[@neiluj1151]

Alexis GUIBAL il est vrai que de succéder à Mellon Collie était très difficile...Adore est un album spécial ce n'est pas un mauvais album mais venant de Corgan c'était bizarre et trop sombre...pour Muse le 1er album reste de loin le meilleur (pour moi) mais Bellamy est parti trop en lyrisme dans son chant et je le trouve moins humble que Corgan bref ce n'est que mon avis...

[@corgan59]

pas d'accord Adore est Génial et les lives des tueries (regardes celui d'hambourg 98) et Machina 1&2 idem...Apres bon.....

[@christopheh6257]

j'aime pas les live d'adore même si j Adore l'album il s adapte mal au live car justement c est un album plus intime Le declin c'est surtout billy qui l'a amorcé en 2007 car jusqu a machina c'était peeerfect

[@wallmethod]

I Love Darcy when she smiles :) fuck Billy don’t you date Darcy?

[@ilikemusic76]

Most boring and uninspired SP period.

[@vonclohk507]

Yep, Billy should have used the opportunity to do a solo record. Adore sucked.