SMASHING PUMPKINS MTV ROCUMENTARY

[@MovedbyTruth]

Really like The Smashing Pumpkins. Particularly their original lineup.

[@michaelforest3332]

I am a music junkie listening to everything from classical to forest psy and deathmetal, of all the bands I ever listened to The Smashing Pumpkins was/is my absolute favorite band of all time! All my books in school, every piece of paper, my bags, my room and everything I had was full of SP logo´s

[@anonymousdude4011]

You need to listen more carefully. If you listen to everything and this is your favorite you must be deaf.

[@Chris_yes]

I can agree with the love. I will never forget skipping school as I think a senior in HS to wait in line for half the day for a free show at Tower Records in Denver around like 1999 or so. Got to meet the whole band minus D'arcy, during the Machina period. It was so amazing. Such great people. I still have a signed MCIS shirt from them. Guess I saw em at least 3 times. I played at Act IV at the Metro too with my band Straylight. Was such an honour.

[@AlisonBryen]

@@anonymousdude4011 it's called an opinion.

[@anonymousdude4011]

@@AlisonBryen allison of the mire ... Opinions can be wrong.

[@yoyotubero1640]

Theres always that dude that will argue even if you say your absolute favorite fruit is apple... L🤣L!

[@torqueoficial7781]

What an incredible and unique era of alternative rock on TV.

[@BonerMaroner]

I'm seventy love their hit songs back in 1965 In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida was the smokers choice.

[@mediaisgarbage]

Absolutely!... and life was a jaunty experience, and being and adolescent was fun, music was awesome and meaningful. Not a worry in the world except being a kid learning and becoming wise. Someone please take me out of this mid-life crisis and place me back to the good days

[@jamesbrennan7355]

Oh i feel you right there. Take me back to a time where you could enjoy tjings for what they were

[@tricky92x]

@@mediaisgarbage Word

[@SexyAssDanny4]

fuck i miss the 90's :(

[@billybillee8160]

we all do.... man i used to stink palm everyone and just laugh my ass off. so ya yesterday i stank palmed a client who is worth over 100 mil i felt good

[@RafaelSantos-in9cr]

i was in high school when they were happening...wow..yes i miss those 90s...

[@benishmael9451]

Me too

[@Appreciation-Community]

Lucky bastards.

[@jeffloucks2120]

Saw them with Pearl Jam and RHCP's. Supporting Gish, Ten, and Blood Sugar sex Magic. Thers still good new music out there but there's such overload it's easy to miss. Definately different times though.

[@nunchaku4607]

I remember watching this when it aired on MTV, before you guys were born.

[@jasonnn2284]

Same. Spent a lot of time reading music magazines in stores & following the progress of Mellon Collie.

[@robbiepeterh]

What a special moment in the history of this great band. Right after a classic album, right before their absolute masterpiece.

[@ru2388]

3:21 if you saw this, you'd never know this guy and his band could make a stadium explode with rock music

[@licccio2133]

forreal, he looks nerdier than sheldon cooper

[@dynjarren8355]

James had such cool hair and looked so exotic on stage. And he’s still a snazzy dresser too!

[@chzzyg2698]

It's funny that Billy was always a real and regular person in interviews, but the version of him that we always got shoved in our faces was his music video persona of the weird goth alien freak.

[@cass2303]

Smashing pumpkins best band in the world, even now.

[@luminous6969]

It's weird seeing Billy play Mellon Collie songs with hair.

[@dabeln1]

He had hair in the Bullet with Butterfly Wings video.

[@tomatofy910]

@@dabeln1 you could tell it was very thin and receded in that video

[@xaviergough9359]

It was entirely recorded while he had hair. He shaved it off only until they shot the "1979" video.

[@kinkane5566]

5:23 he's so right, you put it down in an album and it's subject to criticism for the rest of time, that's why I respect these artists so much because they are putting their souls on the line and it's a heavy risk, more than any of the rest of us will either know or understand... thankfully the Pumpkins' work has withstood the test of time including TEITBITE which wasn't even recognized until over a decade later

[@187onasimp]

I wonder how D'arcy felt sitting there at the end with them talking about Jimmy's drug problem when she had a drug problem of her own she was dealing with.

[@hornek]

I don't know if she already had a drug problem by then, it was during the Adore tour. anyway, one thing is having a drug problem, another thing is considering it a problem. if she didn't think it as one, she probably felt nothing, or that she could handle it better than Jimmy.

[@THEDEEPDIVE]

Darcy hadn't tried cocaine at this point. that came later as she found it helped with her daily panic attacks and anxiety issues that had developed (likely in response to all the attention, success, pressure, etc).

[@THEDEEPDIVE]

@@anonymousdude4011 that isn't true.

[@deathkampdrone]

@@THEDEEPDIVE that's one thing, but I also think it must have worn her out to suddenly be in a band with two people so over the top eccentric. Always seemed like Jimmy and D'arcy were more like old fashioned, hardworking normal people. Whereas James and Billy are just a bit weirder and introvert, and Billy of course quite the egomaniac. She must have felt pretty alone, suddenly in a synth/folk/goth trio all of a sudden. Everything changed pretty quickly.

[@THEDEEPDIVE]

@@deathkampdrone Iha and Darcy were close.. they dated early on in the band and stayed closed friends for a long time. Jimmy and Darcy were "never hang out buddies"- her words. But it did seem like Iha and Darcy were butting heads by 97.. I imagine that did make her feel more alone.. you can see them bicker like an old married couple here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e36lYqKvjtCMo9U

[@samuelheldilaof6361]

DARCY WAS ALWAYS SO COOL!

[@hgodvilla00]

Key word: was. Be thankful for the D'Arcy we had in the 1990s, not the D'arcy we have now. She is not coming back. She doesn't have the needed skills to play bass nor the desire to stand on any stage with Billy. Their separation and feud is an irreconcilable mess at this point in time. Why bother? I have no desire to see her contribute to any Pumpkins albums in the future.

[@annsitar330]

I love 💕 them I always listen to there music!!!!

[@mitchellhughes5180]

I love seeing rock stars being interviewed about drug problems. It’s so quintessentially ‘90s.

[@MrOctober44]

And 80's and 70's, and..

[@Jack458111]

“Baseball City” lmfaooooo

[@Zero-zl3lo]

"Jimmy Chamberlin sings the the hits of the smashing pumpkins with the guy from radiohead on lead vocals." I don't know what to make of that

[@fukdisshit1949]

Billy is a dick. But still always cool

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

*I'll buy 2 tickets to that show... for me and my wife, Tabitha Soren.*

[@HerenowGoneforever]

Billy sings and makes the genius music and lyrics....like Cobain ...a very small club...in my opinion more talented than those that just sing.

[@euaggelion03]

Just going to say it: the Pumpkins rocked me way harder than Nirvana in the 90s. Gish > Nevermind

[@btran213]

i preferred siamese dream over nevermind

[@rubenel7993]

ok settle down pumpkin boy 😆

[@hw343434]

Agree Pumpkins > Nirvana for me any day. Siamese Dream > Nevermind

[@AdanZuniga-du5ml]

Pumpkins 🎃 over nirvana any day

[@SydBodeker]

I like both

[@hrzwoods]

This is actually fucking wild considering D’arcy was actively using as well

[@vinny.deadmou5d46]

Yes but u know how the old drug cliche goes, n that is that coke is basically tolerated but that heroin is tabooooo unless everybody at the table is using it.. Also it's used to pick code who stays n who goes according to importance.. Guns n roses for example? Slash n Duff n Izzy huge heroin addicts but Steven was there only one thrown out bcz of it.. Slash was irreplaceable

[@kierenmoore3236]

Nice little doco/insight. Thanks for uploading this. :) Fuck, I miss the 90s, too ...some things were still real back then; the 80s hadn't simply commercialised everything, yet ... now, this kind of authenticity is much, much rarer ... :/

[@bendapainting]

Lp

[@___David___Savian]

Billy passed right by me the night of the 1996 MTV Awards right after he gave an interview in Radio City Music Hall. I heard him with my own ears say during the interview that Rock was dead. He foresaw the inevitable that night. Even-though Van Halen got the biggest applause of the night when David Lee Roth unofficially joined the band to present an award, then swiftly kicked off the band offstage after acting like a fool. What I would surmise from watching Billy walking alone in the basement of Radio City was that maybe the rest of the Smashing Pumpkins members felt they were not getting more money on the tours and Billy got all the attention in interviews and did not allow them to talk. That's why in this docu video above you see even the drummer talking. Maybe Billy felt guilty and wanted to share the spotlight with them. But, by the time of this documentary you can clearly see in some of the band members faces that they were done with the band and were just there because of contractual obligations. But..... then again, Billy wrote the songs. He was the genius of the band. But, the band wanted more money or more money and recognition. Either way, by the recording of Mellon Chollie it was just strangers in a room no longer trusting each other. Sad, because they never had the success individually they had together, which is usually the case.

[@deadlegs187]

Thank you. This is solid gold

[@8minecrafter8]

3:09 I spot sheet music for "My Blue Heaven" which he covered in The Aeroplane Flies High box set

[@찰리브라운-r4n]

스매싱펌킨스는 내 인생 밴드다.

[@scarling-c1j]

9:06 that riff…

[@tomimolin6125]

Love u full d'arcy

[@NOOBNOOB007]

I have the same guitar at 3:49 its a ovation from the late 80s acoustic electric

[@dynjarren8355]

The future for Corgan was hairless and including him wearing one piece Gowns.

[@lewissullivan9331]

Right. When did he turn into pinhead from hellraiser?

[@dynjarren8355]

@@lewissullivan9331 After he saw the movie and decided Pinhead was cool.

[@arianepelletier3082]

Authenticity is precious and very attractive. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness has aged very well and will surely still be appreciated in 50 years

[@2000jago]

If only the interview at the end wasn't cut off mid-sentence...

[@chipmeans380]

So funny that he refers to Thom Yorke in a “where are they now” sense. I guess he couldn’t have known Radiohead would end up being as big as they are.

[@JohnDoe-xf8ew]

(if not bigger lmao)

[@alexandereckert5939]

They def aren’t as big. Corgan and chamberlain respectively have more talent in them than Radiohead as an entire band. Tom Yorkes a weirdo

[@xboys_archive]

@@alexandereckert5939 their both pretty weird, both pretty okay

[@manuelcastillotaylorsversi2551]

@@alexandereckert5939 you focus too much on Thom, while Jonny is the true master on Radiohead.

[@oregonziggy2391]

Bigger

[@jonyu3597]

Saw Billy as the Pumpkins in 2013. The rock is gone. D'arcy wasnt kidding when she said the boys are getting old.

[@monkeyliver1986]

Shes getting old too

[@Appreciation-Community]

Looking at Darcy now days makes me legit sad :(

[@MrApplesoggy]

@RockMeAmadeus Yeah I agree. But rock stars do what they want. And wear what they want. If they can survive doing what they want to do then fuck, let them wear what they want. That's Billy

[@licccio2133]

@RockMeAmadeus have you ever head of the kiss?

[@zbeast78]

@RockMeAmadeus who gives a shit what they wore? i listen for the songs/ music, not the fashion sense. the fact is that rock is a young person's game, period. i haven't bought a Pumpkins album since Zeitgeist, and don't plan on it. but it doesn't diminish that they had a pretty amazing run from Gish to Machina. and if Billy and co. are still out there milkin it, that's their right.

[@seanmack5459]

same , and they definitely added a shade to my life that simulated in who i am ,,

[@bmwf1joel]

Cool behind the scenes stuff

[@ben.futureprimitive]

Pumpkins 4 ever!

[@scotthanback4530]

Love there music they got talent seem like band members dont want to be there i love there music

[@YK_Paul-J]

It's no secret that the band can't be musically talked about without Billy and Jimmy But I think Darcy and James have achieved mass success by making up for what they can't And James' solo is one of my favorites I listen to it more often than Adore

[@runne_451]

Why am I so obsessed with smashing pumpkins these days lmao especially for james iha… is it because I am asian? lol

[@MarkCajiga]

I in recovery always will be I drinkin right now I have hope love darcy❤

[@Duzz14]

Billy Corgan I think really wanted to do what Radiohead did on OK Computer - today. He got into electronic music after Mellon collie. With songs like ‘Eye’. He was smart enough to see how rock was progressing, but couldn’t create it himself.

[@blistabliss]

Well there was plenty of electro elements on mcis 1979, only come out at night and others or just nods to it. Ok computer isnt really that electro. By kid a they were full into that but I would say ok computer is basically as much of a regular rock record as mcis. I prefer kid a to ok computer but definitely prefer mcis to anything so did after. I like adore but it didn't have that much electro elements maybe a little more than mcis but not much

[@JohnDoe-xf8ew]

Cyr was an … experiment

[@sparkyhughes131]

Went kinda depeche mode on adore

[@JoLap42]

I disagree wholeheartedly. They go against the grain. Where grunge hated prog rock solos they absolutely ripped those.

[@davidjenkins6626]

They pretty much all lied. They were not family. They disliked each other and after ADORE they said their goodbyes

[@gish2465]

You don't understand, they are was like family with problems. Billy is genious but can't to controll himself, his talent like furious eruption, and James and D'arcy always take care of him, to point his creativity in a right way, their sense of art was kinda better than Billy's. But in a same time, James and D'arcy was a couple and fighting each other and making other chaos, not helping in creation. Jimmy never conflict with Billy, but did drugs and almost died by overdose(he did it together with new piano man, piano man died that day), and was kicked by Billy from the band because of it. So its just circumstances accumulated in late of decade. It happens even with families.

[@187onasimp]

They were kids when they first started, they grew into adults together people change and ambitions change. They all also handled their success and the pressure of it in different ways. Jimmy left to get clean,D'arcy left because she couldn't tolerate Billy's ego anymore, James left because he wanted do more than just play Billy's songs. After 2001 that was it for the Pumpkins. Thing is none of the former members ever said anything exactly bad about Billy but Billy took shots at all of them over the years blaming them for the downfall of the band in their own way. D'arcy was tired of the music business so she went silent for two decades, James went on to make music with other bands, and Jimmy got clean and came back to form. Meanwhile Billy kept experimenting over the years trying to recapture that "Pumpkin" essence that made them so great but never could. SP wasn't just Billy it was all 4 of them that made it great. Without that energy the formula just was never quite the same and too much time passed for them to reclaim that glory again. Now they're just an old band with problems and still no D'arcy.

[@ianstobie]

Some profound comments in the comments here!

[@sitluxetluxfuit4481]

Billy is the Jean Simmons of the 90s alt rock movement.

[@gaylethorn7692]

Gene. Sorry. 🤣

[@justinrisen1929]

What is that riff that Billy asks flood to let him try out?? Im a Pumpkins fanatic and for the life of me i dont know if ive ever heard it and its driving me crazy lol

[@richadambudgen7520]

I had a decent head of hair in 1994 as well.

[@TheWonderfulBlake]

Jesus, what a way to cutoff

[@standinsilence]

Yes wheres the rest of that sentence?

[@workingfamily5731]

He looks like the leading lady in spiderman

[@jared_grey]

One of the last great album format rockstars.

[@starlove7098]

Thank you 💞

[@pewsterbaby]

That producer, Flood, looks like Mike Meyer's Sprockets SNL character. hahaha

[@pandaroc1]

The world is a vampire- Billy Corgan

[@finncallahan8994]

10:16 wow an actual performance of Tales of a scorched earth. That was not expected

[@davidfletcher1533]

Out on a tour with thuuuuuuuuuuuuh smashing puuumkins

[@urbienbryllejamellep.2318]

The guy on RH on lead vocals~

[@kalen0000]

MTV probably has the entirety of the double door show recorded

[@zoekidd3483]

whats the song at 8:00?

[@sparkyhughes131]

Not sure. I dont think it was recorded.

[@davidovics92]

isnt't it an early version of Jellybelly?

[@johnmcminn9455]

until I heard the Joe Rogan interview about how Corigan's father was a musician/Gangster in a rough side of Chicago I really didn't get the darkness in the music was real

[@quag1481]

what’s the start song called i’ve been looking for it forever

[@smthncrprt]

The song at 0:25 is 'Quiet' but I don't know about the one at 0:00. :c

[@quag1481]

Santiago Luna thank you

[@willstolle9627]

it's "jackboot" on the album the aeroplane flies high! hope this helps.

[@soragacha1514]

What song is this 5:18

[@Sirclive]

Bodies

[@lablueguy2000]

what's the title of the song at 5:19

[@Fadebackstudios]

thats "Bodies"

[@lablueguy2000]

@@Fadebackstudios Thanks.

[@mcrobosapien]

Rain Wilson needs to go Machinist-lite Christian Bale and play Billy in the Pumpkins’ biopic

[@ChiefStarr]

Darcy was so good looking,,, she was a beautiful girl,,,

[@ednocondriaco]

03:30 ♥♥♥♥♥

[@420catson]

did scooby doo write the title

[@monkeyliver1986]

Song at 3:33?

[@the_hero7801]

Stumbeline

[@yusufalasmi8923]

Oml does anyone know where that piece of paper he wrote melon collie on is lol

[@williamberry8895]

Man why did she do that to her lips? She was so much prettier. I guarantee she'd look better aged 30 yrs than how she looks now. But as an addict I feel terrible she's in this position

[@hi.8362]

What’s the song at 5:19

[@the_hero7801]

Bodies

[@alejandrodelatorre6664]

My fav

[@cullenbrownmusic]

Bodies, Love is suiside!

[@Potatoenfuego]

Too bad it wasn't named basket ball land

[@ladylo-fi6979]

I liked Baseball City...

[@danopticon]

My God, in the interview snippets Chamberlin seems sedated to the point of not blinking… was this right before he got the boot?

[@danopticon]

Oh, I guess 12:54 answered that…

[@deniskuzel6246]

Well, he was much more calm and maybe shy in those early interviews. I guess, drug issue aside, that he just grew as a person. :)

[@cesarrodriguez8893]

what happened to Billy? the guy was so talented. Hasn't done anything worthwhile since Zwan.

[@187onasimp]

@RockMeAmadeus "Rock is young music" apparently you've never been to a rock concert.

[@richardwellend3806]

@@GreyMailMare33 33 track double album?? You will be knee deep wading through tonnes and tonnes of filler

[@pearlgirl5643]

Bullshit

[@ventasocr]

10:17 - 11:14 Then what the hell happened?

[@blistabliss]

Overdoses Billy being pretty controlling plus Darcy and iha got in a relationship I think but that might have been before this. But Billy became sort of enemies with Darcy and iha calling them drug addicts even tho I've never really heard what they did. I think Billy and Darcy are both really hard headed and I think she wanted more creative control. But it's hard being in a band unless it suits you and you're band it's hard to be together so much let alone be obligated to.

[@187onasimp]

Billy Happened. He wanted to be in complete control of the bands creative process and continually criticized D'arcy and James. Imagine reaching that level and playing out stadiums night after night and then when you go into the studio to record being told you're not good enough and your creative input isn't needed. Billy was overly critical of his band mates and has trusts issues. The atmosphere of the band was too much for her and she finally split and a year later so did James. All Billy did for like the decade after was talk about how bad both of them were as musicians. He only really ever seemed to respect Jimmy and that was probably because Billy can't play the drums or he would have probably tried to play those too. He reminds me a lot of Prince and the Revolution where Prince was a master of all instruments and knew how to play the parts better than his band did except Prince trusted his band mates and didn't try to choke their creativity he instead tried to nurture it for them. Oddly Wendy (of the Revolution) used to play some of her brothers songs for Prince and prince was always eager to hear them. That's how her brother Jonathan Melvoin got to play with Prince before moving on to playing with the Smashing Pumpkins as their keyboardists.

[@starlove7098]

Sarah Jay

[@andrewdyke5561]

Billy always saying I'm busy, he has a bad I attitude and not us

[@oDTRT]

baseball city

[@aisle_of_view]

Nirvana was supposed to headline. 4

[@gleamtarrest6310]

He was quite scary back then!

[@powerwegy]

whats the name of the song that plays at 6:36?

[@asgardandres3251]

my video's are trash Where the boys fear to thread

[@zacharyjohnston9449]

@@asgardandres3251 hello fellow Radiohead fan

[@marcellocostantini1159]

Love Is suiciiiiiideeeeee!!!! Bodies

[@starlove7098]

Darren 🥁

[@starlove7098]

Dennis Stratton

[@sir_nicks_allot_8902]

Iha looks like..."Billy is such a prick"...

[@starlove7098]

🏫🎒

[@marcellocostantini1159]

11:38 his name is TOM YORK ...and he did what you was not able to do!!

[@snoox]

Last time I checked, Mellon Collie is not a radiohead album.

[@Lync1111]

Smashing Pumpkins would have been amazing for the Batman Beyond movie opener. Oh by the way the movie it not created yet? Just my prediction that a younger batman and the pumpkins would make a great combo, Think about it. Peace!

[@worldofaccounting8259]

Flood is a genius.

[@starwinksbackfromtheskypit6790]

What’s the song at 9:12 haha

[@cesarrodriguez8893]

Zero

[@DinovanderMerwe]

I saw them live during their Adore album days and as much as I was a huge fan of the band I remembered how bad they sounded live. I don’t think they were always that way live but I think the band was going through some serious issues and D’arcy had just left the band. Still my fav band of all time!

[@starlove7098]

U-Haul

[@US395Official]

ava addddddddddxS

[@cdreyes81]

Hmm, Think about man, Thom Yorke and Jimmy chamberlain. Considering where Thom Yorke STILL is? 20 years later? Still in top form

[@hegenikolaisen5594]

Din Lakris. Ja da har Du Lov da. Hege det var Meninga.

[@rockerman8832]

Dette var veldig tøft Hege, god kveld

[@moocyfarus8549]

So that's why he bic'd his head

[@starlove7098]

Betty Yarrington marijuana melon 🍈

[@kentallard8852]

deal was right

[@PeoplesChoiceofficial]

Every huge band will be under the attack of so called critics who didnt achieve real career so stay in bitter nische of jealous hate group.

[@starlove7098]

Heroine Coconut 🥥

[@DanielKavalera]

Antes sí que se hacía buen rock n roll

[@bobdoubter2977]

The Breeders? Never heard of them and that's how fucking important they are. Meanwhile SP's cd is in my car as stock alternative and that's how important they are.

[@cmorrow132]

The Breeders had a brief moment of fame on MTV in the 90s. The had that Cannonball song.

[@mariposamoreno]

ha ha for real

[@ccgrey8731]

First of all I'm a big Pumpkins fan. That said Kim Deal of The Breeders was and still is well known. Kim was in The Pixies as well as The Breeders.

[@donmoore883]

check out the pixies. Kim Deal...

[@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer]

@@ccgrey8731 The Breeders and the Pixies are cool and Kim Deal is, imo, a really good artist/song writer but I'm going to tell you straight up, don't let any of that fool you or mistake creativity for intelligence; Her and her sister Kelly are complete twits. Their thoughts and opinions are negligible garbage formed by insecurity and groupthink. Had Billy been hanging with her and the rest of the Lollapalooza herd, schmoozing, shooting dope and spreading STI's instead of ignoring that scene and being a professional and great performer, she'd have loved him.

[@peterpiperman9542]

A better show than Siegfried and Roy??? But you get to see that guy get eaten by a tiger live on stage