Smeghead's Guide to Red Dwarf Series 7

[@ZakJordan98]

The Arnold Rimmer song is a testament to our achievement as mankind

[@d3nv1]

So true.

[@karenelizabeth1590]

Thank that genius Howard Goodall. He even sings the vocal on it, I think

[@ZakJordan98]

Karen Elizabeth Yeah he sang it

[@its-morbintime]

From what I understand Chris Barrie really wanted to sing it. If there's one thing that would've made that bit better, I believe that would've been it. A true testament to the ego of Arnold Rimmer.

[@mplum4796]

@@karenelizabeth1590 He's a good match for Chris' voice isn't he?

[@reloadpsi]

I always just figured the dodgy continuity was part of the humour.

[@MoonShadowWolfe]

Me, too. It's not just that keeping continuity isn't the point, it's that NOT keeping continuity IS the point. One of the hallmarks of hard science fiction is treating the rules of the universe and technology like scripture, so the parody is as irreverent toward it as possible. The 'Ouroboros' plot made so little sense that I was actually mad about it the first time I saw it. It wasn't until much later during Series X, when they had the opportunity to get a good, funny episode out of that premise, that I cooled down about it and remembered that 'sense making' can always be sacrificed for the sake of jokes and characters in Red Dwarf.

[@reloadpsi]

MoonShadowWolfe That said, I wrote this comment while I was a third of the way into this video. Jesus Christ, I'd forgotten how bad it got :P

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

Continuity is optional for red dwarf. Look at how many times Lister has his appendix taken out.

[@danilejai7801]

Honestly the show’s Incontinuity is part of the show’s charm... to me at least. People get so hung up on concepts like “canon” and red dwarf gives an entire middle finger to that.

[@its-morbintime]

I do like Chloe Annett though I understand why people don't. I feel like she should've come in during an episode with Rimmer on board just so people could adjust to it and not realize "THIS is the new replacement for Rimmer?!" (because as much as I like her, no one could replace Chris Barrie's contribution to the show) She is high class, like Rimmer but in episodes I do feel like she's genuinely trying to adjust to life on board ship. In the last two episodes, with the exception of Dave attempting to sexually assault her, she doesn't complain about life on ship at all (which, lets be fair, is understandable). She also comes across overall as someone who is perceived as a cold hearted bitch (her words, not mine) but with a genuine soft side. That and she and Craig Charles actually have chemistry! I NEVER got that with Clare Grogan's version of her. Yeah, in seasons 1 and 2 that was in the "universe" where they only dated for 3 weeks but based on the...4 conversations they had (and I'm sure one of them was Rimmer punking him with her image as a hologram) its there but not quite as much as this version. Yeah, this season isn't as good as the others (I believe it and the next season are a little underrated - Blue is actually my favourite episode of the entire show) but that's not her fault at all.

[@SanFran51]

Problem was nobody knew what to do with her.

[@archive9796]

It’s always hard to relate to a character who doesn’t want to be there

[@person14876]

These reviews are some of the best I've seen on KZbin for any show Amazing

[@XShadoWPaws]

My parents were divorced and started dating again around the time this series came out, so Kryten's reaction to Lister suddenly caring for Kochanski resonated hard for me as a kid.

[@AlienIOIandroktone]

Keep it up! Always excited to see these in my subscriptions.

[@icemanlj2k7]

A neat little caveat to the Lister/Rimmer parting as friends thing is that by this point in the series, Craig and Chris had gotten quite close and were also friends. It's a nice little bit of art imitating life

[@scythemouse]

I couldn't help but notice how unusually important an episode "Back to Reality" was. The 6th series happens after and as a result of the nanobots stealing Red Dwarf, leading in to the 7th which ends in both being relocated and the ship being rebuilt along with the crew, creating the consequences that the 8th is centered around. It's a shame they copped out on the Series 8 ending, they could have had it come full circle with Rimmer finding the nanobots and sending them against the microbe. Ah well.

[@MusicGeekery]

Series 7 is the definition of missed potential. There were a great many good ideas, but the execution fell flat, especially with the addition of Chloe Annett

[@Sephirothwolf]

Apparently Robert Llewellyn wanted a break from the make up, hence Kryten's head exploding so he could be written out for an episode. That scheme worked... Also I actually liked Epideme as a character (it reminded me of a similar one ftom Space: 1999) but I think the whole wacky DJ thing is a result of the millions of people he's assimilated into himself.

[@ZakJordan98]

Sephirothwolf And with the episode in the recent series "Siliconia", Craig, Danny and Chris were complaining about the makeup and Rob was like "now you know how i've felt for years"

[@Dim4323]

And also scrapheep challenge

[@Special_Iron]

I've come to think of seasons 7 and 8 over time as 'Red Dwarf, the Wilderness Years.' It was good that it picked up again afterwards, even if it was not quite the same as the earlier ones.

[@GanjaCatGaming]

Great video, each one just makes me more curious how you feel about later seasons. Also thanks for getting back to me about the High Life, I'm living it well!

[@jadegecko]

I feel bad saying this, but the idea of a gigantic nanomachine monument, erected by a tiny Kryten in the form of a zit, made me laugh out loud.

[@SuperPrinnyDood]

Its funny Tikka to ride, was the first episode I ever saw of red dwarf, it was on PBS late night, me and my sister caught it one Saturday night and fell in love with this series

[@morphentropic]

Only just discovered your channel after film brain posted something about working with you. Bingeing your red dwarf videos at the moment and loving them :) thanks

[@DiamandaHagan]

Delighted you are enjoying them! If you want to see the vids I did with Filmbrain check out the Merlin the Return, Berserker Hells Warrior, Breeders, Voyage of the Rock Aliens and Code of Honour review (CoH is on FBs account!)

[@alice989]

the time loop works aslong as dave passes the same 23 chromosomes each time. its incredably improbable but so is a time loop

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

The time loop is fine, he just doesn't understand how paradoxes work and thinks that it somehow repeated over and over.

[@scorchx3000]

They replaced the original Ace Rimmer theme but that's okay, this isn't the original Ace Rimmer. Legion: As a hard light hologram you can do anything a human can do, except you're practically indestructible. Practically isn't completely. The bullet scored a lucky shot and hit the light bee.

[@Jayfive276]

21:52 - There's that 'pinball smile' written about in the RD novels :)

[@kickingroses8925]

I find it interesting that Cat is disgusted at eating a human, when he seemed up for it in Better Than Life....also it's not cannibalism for him.

[@Atomic_Mousetrap]

Even when I was younger and just happy to be watching Red Dwarf, I never thought Kochanski worked. I was okay with the actress, but...it just doesn't fit. She's a replacement for Rimmer so she fills kind of the same role(as a sort of negative influence) but her being catty and annoyed isn't nearly the same thing as Rimmer being a smug jerk. In addition, did she really need to be an alternate universe Kochanski? There's no need to explain why she hates Lister, surely. Really, no reason to run that tired old love plot, but I digress.

[@Jayfive276]

I know what they were going for - the spoilt posh but competent girl who alternately can go "eww, gross boy things" or "you guys are useless". But that was an answer to a question no-one had asked.

[@Atomic_Mousetrap]

I think that would've been okay if she did more than just those two things. But it never felt like she did. Granted she's nice to Lister sometimes, but it feels like it's almost at random.

[@Jayfive276]

22:16 - Audience laughing at a dramatic moment because of that "We were going to sort that out *in the dub!*" smeg-up :D

[@EatThePath]

Now we're well within the part of the series I've not seen much of, if at all. Sad to see it go down hill, but it does seem like they're actually trying to do new things, at least.

[@DiamandaHagan]

Yeah, can't fault them for that. Series 8 is yet another semi-soft-reboot.

[@mokinokaro]

I feel like 7 is the worst but still has its moments. 8 is kind of lukewarm overall. For some reason they jumped right to ten when Dave picked the show up and imo the Dave seasons have been pretty decent. Not as great as 4-6 but definitely on the level of seasons 2-3 with a few standouts that might rank in my top 20 episodes. *I refuse to acknowledge Back to Earth happened. It's a fever dream akin to the SW Holiday Special.

[@mplum4796]

There are a lot of great points here, but I must point out that the reason Ace has a different theme in this season is because he's a DIFFERENT Ace!

[@DiamandaHagan]

Good reasoning!

[@Dim4323]

Also Dimond, for Tikka to ride their was an extended version, on the Dvd added has a bonus, and changed the ending. Where lister has accidently lock in and simply in a supply of Currys.

[@casanovafunkenstein5090]

My guess for why they were able to travel through space as well as time would be that they may have retrofitted some of the components from the matter transporter that they picked up during an earlier episode. The impending threat of an existence without curry probably sparked something in Lister's mind and given his surprising level of intuition with engineering he could have done a bodge job on it.

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

They explain why Holly is now male again with the fact that the Nanos fixed Holly's core programe and then dumped him off. If you're partial to Hattie thats well and good but don't let your bias cloud your judgment.

[@americannomadnews5370]

there needs to be a Star Trek episode where these guys show up in the teleport bay.

[@maximummatt73]

Love how you just casually dropped the 'c'-word halfway through.

[@DiamandaHagan]

It's a perfectly cromulent word.

[@ericnoble5194]

This was the series I watched out of obligation. It had a few decent jokes (love the tank in Jane Austen world), but overall it’s pretty bad. I honestly prefer Series 8.

[@BazTheStoryteller]

11:42, "Squadala! We are off!"

[@henryzolnier-walker8767]

To be fair to Tikka to Ride's continuity issues, it was implied that the Old Dwarfers eventually incorporated FTL into the time drive, so if the paradox merged Starbug, it could have merged the time drives, too. The fact it's gone from a spaceship drive to a vortex manipulator is way harder to explain. Similarly, I kind of assumed that at some point Ace or one of his successors was able to upgrade the Wildfire so he could control what dimension he jumped to. Bad CGI aside, the ring of Ace coffins is a gorgeous visual. I really hate Lister being his own father. Aside from the fact it means Lister spends the rest of the original series trying to fuck his own mother, it adds a layer of weirdness to a character who's meant to be the common man. Plus, all the reasons you said so. There's a reason that the Heinlein short story that probably inspired this plot point had both parents be the same person via Heinlein's terrible understanding of intersex conditions. So, headcanon, Lister and Kochanski's baby is just that, their son. They eventually decided that raising a child on a mining shuttle in deep space with no possibility of love or companionship was cruel, and used Lister's insane and probably drunk idea to justify leaving him in the past. Part of the reason Lister drinks himself silly on Father's Day? Because he's ashamed. Also, judging by the fact that Lister was doing all the locker opening in the flashback scene, I think Rimmer was meant to be soft-light, they just didn't bother with the right uniform. I hate the Simulant's make up. I get the impression they were trying to make it look like some of his artificial skin had been worn away, but as is it looks more like he filmed a bukkake video with the T: 1000 ...Do I hate it, actually?

[@alienonlsd3209]

I think the simulant makeup was partially like that out of the actors failing health potentially.

[@TellyArchive]

At 40:08 don’t you mean her version of Lister rather than her version of Cat? 🤔 👍🏻

[@burtcocain1986]

Re-watching S7 and watching this... In Blue, where was is mentioned that Kochanski had been there for 2 years? (Referring to 27:42).

[@westheriault3797]

Look, Brian Cox is a perfectly reasonable dinner guest.

[@codyw1]

My respect for Gerald Harper just quadrupled.

[@danjones1710]

Love the vids man. All of em. Where did you get the info for the alternate storyline for Nanarcy though? I’ve never heard that one. (Listers arm being rebuilt layer at a time.... monument as a zit...). Thx.

[@anjetto1]

Excellent work

[@emblom52]

I have weird feelings about series 7. When it first aired, my PBS affiliate ran it about 3-4 times in a row, then lost rights to Red Dwarf until just before series 8 came out. For several years my main source for Red Dwarf was a VHS tape of this season. I don't love it - or generally like it all that much - but I have a certain sentimental attachment to it despite its obvious failings.

[@jordanreed3675]

Give it until 2020 now we are getting one movie

[@DiamandaHagan]

Looking forward to seeing it but not holding my breath on quality. They dont have a good record with long form narrarive.

[@bjam89]

I figure the new ace theme is due to there being a new ace

[@themysteriouscatperson9483]

bjam89 yeah, like a new theme for every ace

[@ZakJordan98]

I feel the new theme worked for this Ace considering the over the top action movie type situation with the Alligator

[@mrdoctorgilmore]

Rimmer being in the wrong uniform gets even worse when you learn they actually had his red uniform when they filmed series 7.

[@josephryan362]

Series 7 is my third favourite series of red dwarf series 2 is my favourite series of red dwarf

[@ELSTERLING]

Not entirely surprised bit I agree with you on basically every point on S7. *sigh* It was never going to live up to that brilliant season finale in 6 but damn did it go downhill.

[@armanhammer]

I think the time loop story was supposed to be a sequel to the story where Lister had a child with the female version of himself, but they repurposed it here.

[@thegreatstapley]

My series 7 ranking - quite different from the video! 1. Stoke Me A Clipper (Ace is brilliant, as expected, if not quite as good as series 4, and Rimmer's send off is heartfelt and plays out perfectly) 2. Beyond A Joke (The VR stuff always gives me a smile, and I like the Kryten/Abel dynamic, especially as Kryten isn't a complete screaming asshole this episode) 3. Blue (Just for the Rimmer Experience! The rest is average at best) 4. Epideme (Pretty funny, with interesting concepts, but mostly average) 5. Nanarchy (Holly's return is great, Lister is good, the rest is forgettable) 6. Tikka To Ride (The continuity errors really bug me, but Rimmer is still here, so that definitely helps) 7. Ouroboros (Ugh... Kochanski is grating, and the fatherhood plotline doesn't work logically at all) 8. Duct Soup (Barely watchable, especially due to Kryten's behaviour. And the pipe joke, which plays like something from a kids show. The whole setup seems quite dull. I enjoyed the character stuff of series 1 and 2, but I can't stand this)

[@Timotei75]

It wasn't so much the arrival of Chloe Annett that upset me, but the loss of Barrie. It was a double blow that hurt a lot at the time. Ahhh Rimmer! Rimsy Rimsy Rimsy! Arnold Judas Rimmer IS Red Dwarf, perhaps even more so than Dave Lister, but it doesn't work if one is without the other. And, let's face it, Chloe's character was really poorly written and directed, not really sure why that was.

[@andygaines9686]

Generally, I found season okay - the Arnold Rimmer song was excellent. I think it did hit the pits with season 8 though a series I still cannot watch without getting bored. Something I thought would never happen to me watching Red Dwarf. I must admit the continuity and the "how did they know that " etc questions never bothered me. If they did I would not watch any Sci Fi or fantasy!

[@smelkus]

In the simulation where he rides a magic carpet they should have had him flying to see the potato king

[@westheriault3797]

I have technically had dinner with hannibal lecter. The one with the worst will graham. This is relevant to British old guys.

[@DarthAzabrush]

29:10 Funnily enough all of the episodes Dan Starkey has written for the Paternoster series are focused on the other two.

[@dilatedbeholder3865]

The 1st episode of series 7 was so appalingly bad it actually broke the whole show for me. I haven't watched a single episode since.

[@DiamandaHagan]

And yet it got worse lol. Dave was an improvement, give it a go if you feel like it.

[@misterprickly]

The only reason why I could think of using the VR knight against Rimmer is that it would be two holograms fighting and the knight could actually kill Rimmer; unlike some space monster which could do him no harm.

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

Continuity error - Ace Rimmer can't return to the same reality. Except... He hasn't returned. That's a different Rimmer.

[@scorchx3000]

Practically indestructible doesn't mean fully indestructible, Ace was hit in the light bee, could bee (sorry) that the bee is the weak point on a hard light hologram, like a vampires heart vs a stake.

[@ZebbeCali]

Screw that, I love spice world.

[@leejones8582]

Many reviews I have seen of this series does praise it,I am glad you tear into it it is a weak series overall

[@ramenoodle7853]

was gonna make a homeopathy joke but you had one ready haha

[@hpdamager7920]

I don't get it. I assumed he meant to say homogeneous, meaning 'of the same kind, alike'. As in lister is essentially from one parent as opposed to 2. Homeopathy on the other hand is the use of alternative medicine.

[@ramenoodle7853]

@@hpdamager7920 at like 20:00 he was talking about each one being less and less with an analogy about saltwater until there is no salt left in the solution. Thats what homeopathy is reducing it until there is literally none left.

[@kugelweg]

Great commentary. I want to take the time to point out that "Ace" has a different theme in this episode because he is a different "Rimmer". Just sayin'! :P

[@DiamandaHagan]

Very clever explanation!

[@benmiller3252]

I hope Clare Grogan returns as kochanski in the future

[@thumbwarriordx]

I've actually taken on a little bit of a Brittas obsession lately. It's so fucking insufferably sitcommy but I love that about it..

[@METALVLOGUK]

Claire Grogan is the one true Kochanski, could never adjust to Chloe Annett.

[@henryzolnier-walker8767]

Also, clearly Kochanski's version of Cat is more important to her than her version of Lister XD ...Poor Alternate Lister.

[@jensablefur155]

Chloe Annett had a really tough gig here. Series 7 Kochanskis character profile is the stuff of nightmares. Imagine getting an acting role in a lead position in a well-regarded sitcom and then finding out that your character is "the highly strung sensible girl" whose main traits are nagging and crying and being an object of weird male-gaze leering desire (from a female perspective scenes like the one where Lister and the Cat are watching her clothes in the tumble dryer, and Lister being a sex pest are genuinely... unpleasant.)

[@benmiller3252]

Would it be marvelous if Chloe Annett was The Rani in The revival era of doctor who?

[@FantKing]

I think it was a decent series. Massive change of style, and didn't capture what it originally was, but it worked...as long as you can accept the differences

[@SanFran51]

Problem was the strenous workload Doug Naylor was under.

[@Isobibbel]

Now I know why I don’t remember any red dwarf from series 6 onwards despite my mother watching it around me constantly in my childhood. (Well it came out later obviously) but it wasn’t worth remembering

[@bjam89]

Hufflepuff The Magic Dragon so you dont know what happened in the next series then?

[@Isobibbel]

well I don't remember it....

[@bjam89]

Yeah i didnt until i saw the film den talking about that...now i know why i blocked it out

[@martinhowser4094]

26:00.. Rimmer (not rammer, stupid auto correct) isn’t hard light there, that’s why lister opens it for him.. doesn’t explain wrong uniform colour.. or the series being shit after rob grant left though..

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

Sorry if someone's already asked, but are you going to talk about the extended/extended and remastered versions they made of a few of this series' episode?

[@DiamandaHagan]

I didn't really see the need, plus the ep was v long as it is but I could talk about them when I do the ep about USA, Identity Within, novels etc.

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

DiamandaHagan Cool, well whether you do so in the end or not, I appreciate you taking the time to answer.

[@courtneywoodbury5198]

So I had a good think on it, and I think I have an excuse- er, I mean- a solution for the Kennedy killing himself continuity problem. He shouldn't be able to kill himself because he wouldn't exist to do it, but the people who set it in motion aren't affected by that paradox. So much like how time decided on a solution for the Dwarf crew and *their* paradox, time just kinda said 'fuck it, they can keep this one'.

[@yggdrasil2]

I didn't know Charles was convicted of grape...

[@DiamandaHagan]

Accused, not convicted.

[@yggdrasil2]

@@DiamandaHagan Sorry, misheard. Also did you do an episode on The Promised Land? I didn't see it in the playlist.

[@SanFran51]

@@DiamandaHagan He actually served prison for a while before being acquitted.

[@ronniemcnuggit9718]

baby david is not only danny john jules nephew, but hes also craig charles (bastard) son. look him up today and tell me im wrong lmao

[@MoreRubberyThanTurgid]

I can’t believe you’re being pedantic about continuity issues and general plot holes in Red Dwarf. ‘Twas always thus. I stopped trying to reason with it by Series 2 and just sat back and enjoyed it. You’re really taking all the fun out :) FWW, the episodes of S7 without Kochanski (who, I agree, is cringeworthy) are as good as S6, in my humble opinion. Plus Beyond a Joke is mostly excellent... Kryten bringing the tank into Pride & Prejudice World is one of the funniest things I can remember). Incidentally, I am glad you’re one of those that prefer Claire Grogan to Chloe Annette, also Hattie Hayridge to Norman Lovett. We are few and far between.

[@isaacleguin2171]

I like series 7. Series 8 is when it all goes downhill for me.

[@MoreRubberyThanTurgid]

Episodes in order of preference/quality: 1. Tikka to Ride 2. Stoke Me a Clipper 3. Beyond a Joke 4. Epideme 5. Blue 6 = Nanarchy 6 = Ouroboros 6 = Duct Soup [these 3 are all equally unwatchable. Like the entirety of S8 bar Cassandra]

[@ZakJordan98]

I did think the "You're Lying" scene was hilarious when I first watched it. Until someone pointed out that it apparently reduced Kryten to a jealous mother, and now i notice that im not sure how i feel anymore

[@Dim4323]

MR LISTAAAAAAAAR

[@DarthArachnious]

I though it would have been interesting for Lister to have a robot arm. The costume would have just been a robot glove or leather glove Anakin Skywalker style.

[@tinkerer3399]

JasCotton Hell if they wanted to keep continuity they could've just given him a robot arm that looked completely human Luke style. Then later on during one of the shit hitting the fan scenes show that he has better robot arms that don't look human (like having a bazookoid built into one) but that he doesn't like because of that fact.

[@waymuu]

Is there any way to watch your series 6 video anywhere? It's blocked by the BBC.

[@DiamandaHagan]

I didn't realise it'd been blocked, I've challenged. Usually the BBC free it after a while.

[@waymuu]

Aw cool. Hope it works out.

[@HOOOPER]

Idk how you've missed the point of episode one even though you acknowledge that it is there to break it's continuity

[@straker454]

I KINDA find the bad CGI charming but I think this is mainly due to being that the time Series 7 was released only the remastered episodes were available. SOME, and I stress SOME of the changes added to remastered I liked, such as the newer opening music and added music cues, but yeah the CGI does not look better than the model shots at all. I don't hate series 7 though and still like series 8 and Back to Earth and series X though. Still none are as good as series 4, 5 or 6 but the recent series X stuff feels more classic to me than 7 or 8...or what is KINDA series 9...

[@marksilgram80]

I hate it when they make a movie out of a popular TV series anyway I'd rather have another series instead.

[@Albie989]

Motion blur; what you add to crap CG to make it look better.

[@fat1fared]

I really felt sorry for Chloë Annett. She really did seem to try her hardest with Kochanski's character, but she had so little to work with, and what she had was just offensive much of the time The 90s were a bad time for sexism in the UK in general, but series 7 & 8 of Red Dwarf were particularly awful. The writers clearly not only had no idea how to write women, but also seemed to be completely unaware how repugnant they were making their male characters in their interactions with Kochanski. When the Cat the has the less regressive attribute towards his interactions with a character, you know something has gone wrong in the writing.

[@HereComesPopoBawa]

I liked Annet's Kochanski much better in series 7, where she was smart and bitchy. Series 8 felt like a bit of a backlash where she was mostly sidelined and lacked the strong personality, just being kind of prissy. I suspect that they had to be aware that the crew's attitudes towards her came across as unsavory.

[@tanyahastada8284]

Love the videos but why does the narrator think everything is terrible?

[@DiamandaHagan]

Because I don't much like s7 and 8, I'm much nicer to the other series'. Even Back to Earth lol.

[@random007nadir]

Thanks for saying everything I thought about this series when it aired. A ruinous mess and the beginning of the end of the show. So disappointing after three excellent series.

[@MarcNeilson1]

Overall I still enjoy series 7 but it's probably my 2nd least favourite series with series 8 at the bottom. I've enjoyed the newer stuff more overall. While series 7 has some really memorable moments for me just isn't as strong as what came before it.

[@marthastubbs8321]

I still find this series decent

[@raulduke6953]

Series 7 was the funniest one they ever did

[@Sledg0matic]

Your saltwater analogy for Lister's genetic disposition is flawed at best. For simplification, let's assume humans have four gene pairs in their DNA. Lister has TA CG GC CG, and Kochanski has AT AT GC CG. He inherited the first pair from his dad, and the second pair from his mum, and because of causality, it's always the same sperm with TA CG, and the same egg with GC CG.

[@nicholashurst780]

Same Y chromosome is same Y chromosome. Same mitochondrial DNA is same mitochondrial DNA. Same X chromosome is same X chromosome... DNA isn't salt water

[@RealmsOfThePossible]

Red Dwarf died at the end of season 6

[@DiamandaHagan]

We all must have imagined that video then...

[@skeletoncrusader]

I always wondered why they didn't use the Time Drive to go back to Earth and live normal lives - or just do anything else apart from what happened to them. Regarding Lister being his own father, it's a similar thing to an episode on Star Trek TNG where Troi was giving birth to a child that had 100% of her DNA yet was a boy! Series 7 is the worst for me. At least with 8, the writers and actors weren't really trying so can be let off. With 7, they were trying their hardest to make the show different. Kryten was the worst change for me. I liked how he was rational and yet so funny in series 3-6 but in in 7 he became this slapstick crybaby.

[@Wright805]

There was a scene cut from Tikka to Ride that explains that. Lister suggests going back to their own time and Kryten points out that within seconds of arriving in the past they caused utter havoc with the timestream. "Heaven knows what we'd reduce civilisation to if we lived in the past permanently."

[@skeletoncrusader]

Surely being isolated on a desert island is preferable to living on Red Dwarf though.

[@Wright805]

"shrugs" Just saying that's the reason Kryten gave.

[@Dim4323]

And it was mixed and kyten steels the show

[@cityman2312]

Duct Soup is a low point of the series - until Season VIII. Kochanski was no replacement for Rimmer. Chloe was no replacement for the original Kochanski - she's too plain and unlikable. Epideme was the best an episode without Rimmer could possibly be - even despite the obvious plothole: why didn't they put Lister in stasis until they could find a real solution to Epideme?

[@leejones8582]

I agree about this series being bad.