SMG4 & Niles: The Similarities Within Insanity

Welcome back to another myth debunking video with SMG4! The previous one recieved alot of support and I am very thankful for it. Do you think Niles OR the God Box will return and take over SMG4? What are your theroies!?
We take a deep depth into SMG4's insanity increasing and arcology to see what could happen in the upcoming days.

[@noveltyantiques]

Another concerning thing is that in the picture that Smg4 posted in his Community its repeatedly says "ITS GOTTA BE PERFECT" with the O underlined. the O could be 0, and that further feeds to some horrible theories.

[@sodiumbiproduct3871]

How?

[@Notathreelettername]

@@sodiumbiproduct3871 have you not seen the genesis arc

[@sodiumbiproduct3871]

@@Notathreelettername Oh wait, i know.

[@TheGamerninja15]

There was one thing the SMG's could never be prepared for, *the corruption of themselves.* The more they focus on their goals, the more they begin to distance themselves with others. Until they lose control of themselves, Niles is a perfect example of this corruption.

[@simonverse9466]

True

[@TheGamerninja15]

@@simonverse9466 glad you agree

[@meee271]

My theory is that Niles came back and took control of SMG4's body or smth just anything my tired mind can thing of at night. but after seeing this comment. i think.. SMG4 is getting corrupted and the crew has to try and make him normal so ya i agreee with you aswell with the corruption.

[@TheGamerninja15]

@@meee271 Niles is dead

[@anshkathiria4633]

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[@MRBJW28]

Since they were in that god box and using corrupted meme energy, maybe some of the bits and pieces were stuck in Smg4 system til he started to obsess over the perfect video, and letting his guard down (mentally) and allowing some of the corrupted meme energy to fully function

[@noveltyantiques]

underrated comment

[@lindajamjian7914]

sussy baka

[@bijantehrani4325]

🤔

[@anshkathiria4633]

NONE OF YOU UNDERSTAND

[@thatprettymagicalfan4803]

Poor SMG4. I loved him for many years and he made me laugh so much. But it makes me super sad and worried about him going insane like this...

[@Youcican]

Dw he'll become normal by the end of the arc because of course he would

[@Gatoraded27]

@@Youcican true

[@d1n0jl76]

It’s the character going insane, not the actual guy.

[@MadSociety-uy6zg]

​@@Youcican True it'd make no sense for him to stay insane or die at the end of the arc it wouldn't be the same without him.

[@SonicEXEProductions]

At least the real life him is ok

[@gienabmercado]

Smg4 got insane due to people not liking his previous videos he made, but when smg3 reached him about high quality videos, he got affected by trying to make the best video, that's why he says "it's gotta be perfect", but I see the connection between Niles and insane smg4.

[@KarmaHrW2007]

I really hope this upcoming 'ARC" won't have anything to do with Niles and the past lore tbh. I do respect the theories though and I can see the similarities that these two share, now that SMG4 is slowly descending into madness, but that's all I want it to be, Just the connection the two have with "Perfection". I like the idea of this being it's own thing and not having any connection to the cosmology lore. I also liked how the livestream timer changed the atomosphere of the room once it hit the 48 hour mark, it was literally a fade in. It's going to look a lot more chilling when it's gets to the 24 hour mark tomorrow.

[@magolor152]

I think it would be less that it has to do with Niles and more like his obsession with making the perfect video is causing him to become more like Niles in a sense and there is some clear corruption going on too

[@SyanTheBee]

I have a feeling it'll be SMG3 that'll have to be the hero in this saga this time round since its always been in the past SMG3 that was the villain, I think it'll be the other way around this time

[@peneloxia1439]

Perfection is something impossible to reach. However, creating something that isn't perfect results in it creating it's own perfection and leads it to being infamous or either underrated. If you even noticed, you see a hat on the left by SMG4 and all the junk he ate and drank that's been put to waste. The hat now has a white diamond shaped front side instead of a white rounded front side above the brim. and the "S" has square edges. this could be a new design, or as i believe to be Niles return. If you rotate the new "S", it starts to resemble kind of an "N". I could be wrong, but SMGr's insanity might have a sharing with Niles when he said wanted to fix everything. That is my personal theory on "The Perfection Arc" If there are things you might disagree with, that's fine.

[@speedysonic14]

I have a feeling that the God box is taking over SMG4 just like what happened to Niles. Because if you go back to the two things that you compared they're not perfectly the same. SMG4 doesn't hit Mario. Then again he does go full rage mode so maybe I'm overthinking it.

[@joehuber252]

OH MY GOD *I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE!!!!!!!* 🎉🎊

[@BlueRogueGuy]

Smg4 this is the seventh time this week you've made an unnecessary arc in class

[@blackdude601]

I used to watch smg4 as a kid and I laughed alot, but now when I go to his channel and watch his new/old videos, I just lost a sense of laughter now. But let's hope this new arc will bring back some nostalgic parts.

[@alexzanderbracy6160]

i hope you get your senas of laughed

[@blackdude601]

@@alexzanderbracy6160 thanks

[@eeeae]

Honestly same, It is quite upsetting to see SMG4 In this state.

[@MadBox64]

Yeah I can see that since most of his newer videos use old dead memes that are overused by this point.

[@xdtheleak9343]

same bro

[@rapidwingspan]

At 8:39 this makes a huge point mainly bc ever since the so called “death” of Niles we never actually got to see what happened and how he died. Maybe since Niles was possessed by the god box, what if SMG4 is also possessed? It makes sense why he wants everything to be perfect, like I said before the only way Niles can get access to the past is from SMG4 and maybe seeing Niles takeover his body like what happened to Axol??

[@nerdycookiebunny856]

I can only imagine what he’s gonna look like ones that timer hits zero on the final second the video being released with the Perfect video in his hand as he walks out of his room looking insane his eyes baggy and tired, his hair even more of a mess his eyes twitching and him talking like a crazy person..as his friends come to him really really concerned. Seriously though seeing Smg4 like that (not luke) but the character insane and full of rage was a surprise..to everyone even the reactors we’ll have to see what happens when the timer hits zero and when the video whatever is gonna happen is released.

[@nathansos8480]

No, he swivels around and says ‘WILL YOU GET OUT OF HERE’.

[@piakirei28]

I know this might be a bit out of context, but does anyone think that Smg4’s universe is canonically a show made by Luke (irl Smg4), and the show is a parrarel universe where the characters can come out of the screen, into the real world with acknowledgment of it’s existence?

[@someguywholikesfnf8742]

I think smg4 is possessed by one of the villians in his channel

[@thesmilingman7576]

For some reason I still think this would be in character for SMG4 (especially considering the drop in popularity he's faced lately)

[@creamciclepop729]

that actually would make perfect sense tbh, and if you think the drop in popularity (would most likely) hurt his self image or worth or something along those lines (idk lol), he would be pushing to make that "perfect video" to draw everyone back in and be like: "hey! I'm still your favorite, right?!" to regain his popularity (but yeah sounds about right for his character)

[@thesmilingman7576]

@@creamciclepop729 hopefully this perfect video will take inspiration from the golden era of SMG4

[@abyss-aster8748]

If you think about it, both of them had absorbed Anti meme energy before hand, there a chance that could had still lingered, but who knows, but yeah It's interesting to compare both of them cause at this point, both had seek perfection, both loosing it, Niles getting corrupted, Smg4 loosing his sanity due to what been going on, I guess a theory would suggest that even though the, God box was destroyed, there may be a chance that Anti meme energy they had absorbed before is, still lingering in him, starting to show more and more with the original goal Niles had, make everything perfect

[@abyss-aster8748]

@Machroma nice to see you to, always nice to theory craft with other, after all, stuff has been changing lately now, and it's pretty obvious that if we wanna figure out what will happen, we will have to start comparing Smg4 to Niles now, while also considering the possibility of the past episodes, see if anything could help get a step closer to see what will happen, and yeah, I feel like something that could make sense would the Anti meme energy both Smg4 and Smg3 had absorbed back then during the movie, the reason I said could is because due to the God box being destroyed, there could be a chance all the Anti meme energy got destroyed with it, yet the more I think about it, it's odd that, the had absorbed the energy of it, which makes me think that, both of them still have the energy within them, just never shown since their hasn't been, anything to trigger it, so I believe there a chance that the Anti meme energy still exist in them, and it's starting to show little by little with Smg4 insanity, after all, he's lashing out, just like he did when he lashed out at mario when he was infected by it after using too much of it.

[@ElectricoGamez]

SMG4 is now falling victim to believing perfection exists. Since perfection can't exist, it's a loop of insanity, he will get more insane until he ends up getting his brain consumed by his project and starts directly attacking his own friends.

[@thestrangecutie4590]

I think Smg4 owns Niles a huge apology for not giving him a chance to change and just leaving him for dead. Like not talking him out and stuff. I'm glad Smg4 is getting his karma, look what he got himself into... Great video dude!!

[@spencerman07]

Didn't Niles try to kill them all twice?

[@thestrangecutie4590]

@@Machroma It's ok :)

[@Youcican]

Nah no one could've fixed that guy

[@DinoLoverGaming]

he willingly died with SMG0 when the God Box was destroyed you mucking foron

[@ultraplayz600]

I think this arc might be darker than we think.

[@coolknight2622]

I have an theory about the "Perfect Video"… one that I don't think anybody will like… but here it is: Part 1: the "Perfect Video" won't be an normal video but something that will allow him to do what SMG3 did which is travel back in time… as the "Fans" says that "they miss old SMG4" and he is going to force everything to what it was BEFORE the anime arc…

[@coolknight2622]

Part 2: as the "Fans" say that "Meggy started the downfall of SMG4"… which means he is AFTER Meggy… he wants her to be erased from time… so he is going to try to kill her before "New" Meggy could be made… and he won't stop there oh no no no! he will go after the other "New" characters that came after the Anime arc… I think that Meggy is going to die if the Arc was based off of the "Fans" harsh criticizm… and the other characters Like Melony and the characters that came from the episodes and Arcs after the anime Arc… are next…

[@JobiMorkos]

@@coolknight2622 Thank for making me want the old smg4 to come back.

[@MisterJoson]

I stopped caring to smg4 around after the end of the anime saga I din't really care for the deaths on it, but it was goofy enough to be good, and meggy isnt perfect, but its i character i kinda like I think that smg4 stopped being something i enjoy after they defeated smg0 for the first time, and started putting mellony as important character, as it stopped being fun or interesting, at least for me Not saying no one can enjoy it, and i actually happy you guys are able to enjoy this news arcs And now that this new "Must be perfect" Arc started, maybe i could try comeback to it

[@dominicwallace6946]

I really hope the arc is called The Perfect Arc.

[@EthanMastercrafter]

I was thinking the insanity arc but that works a little better lol

[@nickalol11371]

If it’s the perfect arc it better be perfect

[@rubengamerboy9899]

Or called tHę̵̡͓͈̗̹͎̬̖̜͈̜̻͓̝̣̦͚̦̰̖͖̰̥͕̙̳̺̦͎̼̦̏̓̀̑̈́̆̄̆͗̆͆̽͒͛̑̑̿͛́̑̄͐̉̀̀̂̈́̃́̍̔̒͑̎͗̂̀̕͠͝ͅ ̸̰͙̟͇͎̪̦̥̍̉̃̈̐̂̌̚͘P̵̢̨̨̛͉̮͙͍̱͎̻̞̙̭͇͔͕̩̗̰̟̖̝̗̫̙̼͆͊͂̆̉́̈́̆̔̈́̐̽́̓̂͗̀̍̀͋͋̈́̐͒̀̀͑͊̌̈́̈́̏̓͒̑̓́̂͆̚̕̚̚̕̕͜͠͠͝͠ḛ̸̢͍̟̪͉͕̰̪̣̽̄̃͆̀̚͠ŗ̷̧̧̛̹̫͈̞͚̖̻͔̖̰͖̲̩͎̼̖̮̻̭͚̠̣̹̽̊̈́͆̈̌̓̀̀͊͐̀͑̌̅̉́̕͝͠ͅf̶̮͕̗̳̦̫̬̘̘̥̤̼̘̻͉̱͔̝̭̠͙͐̂͐̈́̅͗̑̎̊̄̈́̐͌̀̅̅̒̍͋̏̃̿̄̕͘͜͠͠c̷̢̛̥̜͍̀̍̈́̔͋̐͆̈́̊̃͊̒͊͂́͋̓̎̽͝ţ̴̡̡̧̧̧̛̫͉͉͚͎͙̺̖͇̰̰̱̫͈̦͉̺̫͔̯̫̗̺͔̟̳̮̱̞̼̝̖͔͎̊̇̏̈́̽̍ͅͅ arc

[@rubengamerboy9899]

@@Machroma :)

[@yebboyebber349]

That's what I'm saying

[@hereskyubi3333]

I think the arc will reveal SMG4s true workaholic nature.

[@Noah34565]

SMG4 be like : Oh man it's time to go insane

[@-Viola-6031]

smg4 is still typing pls don't tell me he's writing sonic fan fiction 😱

[@yoshi_chuck05]

The longer it takes for SMG4 to make the "perfect video", the more it worries me that this perfect video might be the end of the world and could control everyone's minds when watching it. That's just something I thought could happen. There's even something to point out when you got to his channel, you'll see the thumbnail of the live stream. And everyone in the chat is encouraging SMG4 to get out of his room in various methods. And none of them prevailed because not only he's ignoring his friends, but his fans too. When did this become so intense?

[@mrqwerty567]

Bro just got meta

[@kcchao0321]

If you listen closely to the background music in around 7:00~7:20 of “SMG4... Are You Ok?”, you’ll find out that it’s the music associated to Niles and Eldritch Zero.

[@survivalisttt1566]

Have a feeling Mr Yeast & SMG4 are gonna be both antagonist(s)

[@Heap_InnovatorsRBLX]

While I was watching your video, I just tried to think of something, making something up. I just theorize of something after an Arc happened, and then it's over. What if something of an unnoticed small aspect/element from a previous Arc that is left behind affects something in the future like, let's just say the upcoming Arc.

[@anch5399]

This is a very good theory. I agree that Niles himself isn’t evil but rather got possessed by the god box and somehow became a vessel for it. Somehow SMG4 is also influenced by this God Box and is now in a loop of insanity seeking for perfection. Perhaps the true main villain of the insanity arc would be the god box itself? Man hope the god box becomes the new antagonist the team must face.

[@wellerfell]

i wonder what the "perfect" video is gonna be because smg3 did have a interesting way of making videos

[@Aswoop9000]

Can't wait for Everyone Vs Crazy SMG4 Rap Battle

[@arkinferno7497]

there is one thing that bothers me is that who gave SMG4 that cursed keyboard because as seen in the movie the keyboard is throwed into the castle from the outside... that would mean someone knew about SMG4's insanity problem, and as seen with the "it's gotta be perfect" livestream someone was livestreaming SMG4 without his knowledge. So we could have another puppet master situation happening currently

[@AubanaterPlays]

Watched this while video! Even though I know nothing about SMG4, I'm starting to build a picture. You could potentially do a "introduction to SMG" video so newbs like me know what's going on.

[@SonicEXEProductions]

My theory is that SMG0 (the evil one) corrupted SMG4, we still don’t know all the powers of the SMG’s so this MIGHT be possible, just think about it, maybe there will be a scene where they fight Nile’s again (I don’t think he wants to add a SMG0 boss, that will probably overrate the character, that’s why I said Niles)

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

I think all this stems from some sort of atelophobia, which is the fear of not being good enough. SMG4 is afraid of not being good enough because of the whole Mr. Yeast and trying to get his approval of some sort. I don't know what words were said to him, but I think they hurt worse than any battle wound he's ever experienced within his decade and so of being with his friends. He feels the need to get approval because the people that bully him online for his work has severely affected him and what I suppose is his self-esteem. The perfect video is supposed to be his ultimate comeback and to show that he is way more capable than any of us. In truth, he doesn't love himself. SMG3 does though, because he never lets anyone or their words get the better of him. SMG4's line of "None of you understand the work I do" is supposed to be a "fuck you" to the people that essentially hate-commented the recent changes made after the Lawsuit Arc. They say that sticks and stones may break bones, but words never hurt me, but in reality, they hurt way more than any stab to the stomach anyone will ever experience. SMG4 needs to know that he is loved, and that he is a wonderful person.

[@Cypherbroski]

so i wasnt the only one who thought that, i really thought the atmosphere changed and i was confused

[@mrqwerty567]

SMG4: "It's gotta be perfect." SMG4 Fanfiction: "He wants perfection. 'It's gotta be perfect.' Those were his words, and they drove me insane. I created these monsters as a fragment of my mind, but I couldn't control them. That's when he took over."

[@thechallengerofgame7883]

I have a some theory after read some more comments here. 1. Niles and the God Box is SMG4 old pc set that infected with a virus. Thus no longer usable, Niles may made by the God Box and the God Box has some influence in his mind and desire. He nay like the trope " destroy humanity to save one " type, like he might gonna destroy Mario world, but to fix and recreate SMG0 world although he actually destroy more and fix less. Return to the theory, the corrupted meme energy possibly could work like an infectious virus thus although they long exit that place. Some energy may still remain in SMG4 body and driving him crazy. 2. But why SMG3 doesn't gone insane as well? Maybe this is a metaphor of a some kind PTSD. SMG3 possibly have an immunity like system in him. Firstly he lives in the Internet Graveyard. A place where blood shed can happen every single minute with the inhabitants are acting beast like and murderous could drive anyone crazy, remember the time happen different than Mario normal world. But actually able to obtain information and develop a civilization and made himself the leader of all, i did say he has a sturdy mental to went through that. Not to mention he has egg dog which possibly referred as PTSD service dogs. We don't know how exactly they going on off screen, both SMGs cam have sleepless nights and other nightmare after what they have gone through. Yes. SMG4 have his friends, but it's not like they can stay with him forever 24/7. 3. Since Super Meme Guardian exist, there is possible there a complete evil counter part of them. Unlike Waluigi, That green gecko o forgot the name, and Niles. This enemy worked as a virus like that meant to be pure evil and destroy everything. It may tried to destroy SMG one way another. It just stay behind the scene to see the best way to delete SMG4 as it's prey, we saw how SMG3 took over SMG4 youtube channel, the DMCA, Niles scheme. Yet none of them completely or permanently erase SMG4. So its just goes like instead try to defame him. He's driving SMG4 insane to defame himself.

[@bunnyhatzuicecream]

My theory: SMG4's soul is being corupted because of his stress, anger, & not taking a break for so long.

[@theplaguegamer6216]

I hope this is just a marketing thing and he's not actually torturing himself making this. Even the most dedicated people like Kuro the Artist still take breaks from massive projects. I hope he takes a long break after this.

[@miraculousworldofladynoir1597]

This arc should be called the Insanity arc.

[@jojo-ys5in]

it's amazing that you get more than 100k views keep going

[@normal_laddy]

Remember this started because of SMG3 Making Him believe he could make the most perfect video

[@tylerthekid9108]

Part of me fears if this theory is true we might get another character death idk who but might be a possibility.

[@GeotheElite]

These are really good theories, keep it up man.

[@Youcican]

0:34 the sound effects occurred but the images didn't process to load 💀

[@AubanaterPlays]

Another great video mate! Keep it up bro!

[@heroshadow42]

Part of me did wonder if we would be seeing a return of Anti-Meme energy, but it probably does not make as much sense that now it comes to light after a whole year and SMG3 is just fine. Only explanations that come to mind would be if the Meme Graveyard can cleanse Anti-Meme corruption or if 4, maybe also 3, retained a bit of it, and 4 is tapping into it for his video. This I am not as confident on. I have also wondered if this will be the Finale of Super Mario Glitchy. While War of the Fat Italians 2021 reveals SMG means Super Meme Guardian, the focus on Mario and the Mushroom Kingdom did make the series feel like it retained its old meaning. This thought is mostly based on the end of the Lawsuit Arc and a small bit of how SMG0's Avatar was a red guy named Fred and Meggy still calls Mario Red. The idea is that slowly the Nintendo references are fading out until Super Mario Glitchy ends and Super Meme Guardians officially begins. However I feel like it might be too early kill off and/or reform any more of the Major Mario characters and with SMG4 being the main comedy channel while Glitch is the main serious channel, such a change currently seems unlikely. Plus I doubt a Mario Fred hybrid named Red as a main character would make much sense.

[@mr.austin8007]

Smg4 has so much lore it could make a Bible for the lore Edit: I think it was best for him to lock himself up. If he didn't he would probably hurt someone like how Niles hit 0

[@mr.austin8007]

Not you too

[@espartanox5076]

For me there two theories: 1st theory: The god box was not fully destroyed,Niles spirit is still alive and maybe is driving SMG4 insane and act like a perfectionist like him.Or even maybe Niles and the god box can be totally destroyed,but what if a negative SMG or evil entity is controlling SMG4 and making him insane?If this theory is correct,can be start of Genesis Arc Part 3 or Revelations Arc Part 2? 2nd theory: The cause of SMG4 going insane can be Mr.Yeast after him he refused to collab with him and that's why he can be the main antagonist of the perfection Arc.

[@overlord3604]

My theory is that the god box is still alive and is corrupting SMG4 same as it corrupted Niles, since of how they say "Perfect" cause the god box wanted them to destroy the SMG4 multiverse and take over the real world when everything is done.

[@espartanox5076]

@@overlord3604 It's a possibility as well.But do you think that Axol and SMG0 can return as spirits and even in their normal forms as well to help the super meme guardians destroy permanently the god box? But if your theory is correct,we can witness SMG3 as protagonist for the 1st time,the return of SMG1 and SMG2 to help 3 destroy permanently and once for all the god box and avoid SMG4 to become corrupted and perfectionist like Niles But I have another theory as well: Do you think there's other's SMGs across the multiverse?Let's say you and I can be SMGs and we don't know yet. For me three things can be the cause that SMG4 to become perfectionist: 1)Niles spirit and the god box 2nd)Revenge against Mr.Yeast for refusing collabing with SMG4. 3rd)And even maybe,a negative SMG or evil entity worse than Niles and Eldritch Zero,maybe an evil god called SMG♾(Infinite) is controlling 4. But if the Niles and the god box theory is correct,we can expect the perfection arc be called Genesis Arc part 3 or Revelations Arc part 2. Let's wait of what is waiting for SMG4 fans. And what do you think,man?

[@overlord3604]

@@espartanox5076 Weel I think the god box is immortal cause of how it was "destroyed" during REVELATIONS but came back in the next episode like it was fine but I think the only to destroy the god box for good is to destroy it in real life since its a cartboard box

[@espartanox5076]

@@overlord3604 Agreed.But I remembered that in revelations movie that the god box was in real life, SMG4 broken and corrupted PC stuff,and in the final he said to don't need anymore and kicked out. But maybe the cartboard box is still reusing in real life,and that's why the god box wasn't permanently destroyed. And for me if the god box is still alive,the only way to permanently destroy the god box is a combination of all meme power with Melony's fierce deity powers and in real life, recycling the cartboard box.

[@espartanox5076]

@@overlord3604 And adding to my previous comment,do you think that the god box can be an entity? Like I think is probably fandom, but search Arthur Smg4. That's probably the true form of the god box.

[@sakurauq]

I’ve had this on my recommendations too much

[@theartdragon1270]

WoW what a theory

[@Pankek01]

I got a bad feeling about this.

[@darkprincesora8091]

that fact that we're at 5 the hour mark and SMG4's room is looking very creepy now and has a eery background noise is probably hinting at something. someone is indeed going to make a return

[@maxxandres8462]

Its.. gotta.. be.. Persistent Effective Rad Fantastic Effort Caring Talented.

[@therealseam]

@@Machroma would you maybe even say PERFECT?

[@Mattboyiscool]

I have a theory, that Smg4 is working on the show, the ditinil circus 🎪, because he havent made no epersodes, or Smg4 is corrupted and the world is glitchy

[@TheRealChris577]

I Think The God Box Is Coming Back

[@mago_malvado96]

Niles has nothing to do with SMG4's Insanity. Maybe it's just something about his mental health as a character.

[@mago_malvado96]

@@Machroma Yeah, I know and I've studied it, but Niles is gone. If he returns, that'll just be a low blow. But prove me wrong.

[@Youcican]

​@@Machroma no it's just his mental health. It's likely that this arc based on Luke (SMG4) and how he experienced this level of stress trying to satisfy his fans without satisfying himself

[@The_Yugo]

@@Machroma There are a few things that could prove this such a as the “o” in gotta is underlined and them having similar poses to their freakouts and another person had a theory that this was supposed to be the arc we got for Wotfi however it got pushed back which explains why the lawsuit arc was rushed. I don’t think it would be Zero directly, but maybe like an influence of some sort (a leftover piece of his consciousness in him) but I don’t want that to be the case since that already happened with Melony and I feel that he is starting to get old

[@Daansstuff-alt]

I think this is just gonna be a standalone movie rather than an arc

[@ccmodee8731]

SMG4's community tab goes crazy now, you should check it.

[@vitorborges5183]

I don't wanna be the bad guy, but as a chad myself i actually don't care about SMG4 getting insane or mentally unstable. In fact, I wasn't expecting to see that but now he has fully grown into a poundlad version of skydoesminecraft and to me it's kinda awesome. Again no hate towards him.

[@maroftheflameandshadows]

its just a new arc

[@The_Forgotten_Third]

Looking back I remember that smg4 said something like "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE BLESSED BY THE GOD BOX" This could work out Good theory tho

[@sandralugo73]

I think Nile’s spirit is possessing smg4

[@ElectricoGamez]

It's 2021 all over again dammit

[@alexanderdahms4001]

Only 2 days missing!?!?

[@mbahreini9565]

There is a clue to backup the SMG4 & God Box theory: after the last episode of the Revelation arc, in the beginning of the video (If Mario Was In ... Sonic Movie 2), we see that Luke is trying to salvage the remainings of broken computer (he says memes, some questionable things ...)!🤔 SMG0 & Niles may have gone, but the God Box may be still alive and tries to control SMG4!😐 And Also the power of corrupted memes make them want more power!

[@Ahsumcrafter]

I must say bro, this is exactly what I was thinking.

[@40kkidlock18]

i really hope theres no major plot twist that involes niles returning jesus christ smh

[@edeyhsistea8451]

Hmm, well, they both delve into insanity to where they hurt other people, Niles even further then SMG4. But still, SMG4 is fine with hurting other people just to achieve his one goal, just like Niles, all shown on the episode MAR10 Day.

[@LukaTheseStarz]

W and personaly i think its the fact of a personal struggle of his thinking that his actuall content isn't good enough and prob due to the drops of viewers and the increase in glitch productions

[@Coolskeleton95644]

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[@depoksaja4878]

Chill

[@supercatmariobros4053]

Ok smg4 did my childhood, and now today he’s had a lot changed

[@ambeethyst]

Bit late but around 49-48 hours smg3 talks in the background to be in the live

[@guadalupe1028]

Smg4 sii lts' gotta be perfect 😱

[@rilakkumafannyfannyfann4726]

So is the new arc gonna be the third cosmology arc or a reference to revolution arc?

[@nicholasdoerr9183]

i want to say his hat the white out line thats for his 4 if you compare it to the twitter logo its more of a pentagon than an oval just wanted to point it out

[@therealseam]

guys I think it gona be perfect

[@dun4now...]

IT'S GOTTA BE PERFECT

[@Abrainlessbeing]

IT’S GOTTA BE PERFECT

[@icedgem4221]

If they want to do it that way then they need to flesh out the lore.

[@jamesmathis1473]

Haven't Niles been messing around and toying melony and axol enough?

[@CMYTPs]

Smg4 has gone a couple of days drinking the same drink without needing to refill it *how*

[@r3m1nd_da_goat]

Zerø storyline was perfect. I’d love to see my favorite character back :)

[@Donegotgoofed]

10:13 LOOK IN THE CORNER WHA

[@hazquatic]

11:29 welcome to Ryan’s you review!

[@Rosey_flower_Dragon_Girl]

This is what I was thinking about Nile’s

[@memebakeryt]

I think it's a spoiler for a special

[@someloser4180]

I personally don’t believe that SMG4 got corrupted by Nile’s or the god box. It wouldn’t make much sense since they both were destroyed in Revelations. And if some of the corrupted meme energy is somehow still inside of SMG4, then why is he going insane now?

[@capnMAN]

I like how you made one smg4 theory and it passed your most viewed video by 300% Edit: was wrong you passed it by x300!

[@juanaronicastro4306]

SMG4 GONBOX

[@four_.._.]

Ive never seen smg4 so freaking scary, this show with all these memes and people getting hot with everything, turning into smg4 going insane. It's kinda scary... And the fact that Mario wanted to give smg4 the best friend reward.. made my heart melt. I feel bad for Mario and the others... And whatever smg4 is making...... I don't think it's gonna be good..

[@silverwolf454]

Well I think that's one theory I think smg4 is going to be corrupted like Niles I know this is some real remember nozzle make the world perfect and Smg4 say the same thing but instead it's a video I'm getting worried if smg4 it's going to be more Corrupted that's my theory I think

[@Sirjhon2008]

God box is come

[@Forklift-Certified_69420]

I have a theory. What if this is a call back to final hours

[@torchsf]

i got here early for both vidoes

[@peppermanartist]

uh. he's making a meme, a *special* one-

[@TheIgnihydePrefect]

tbh i completely forgot who niles was lmao i was there as the arc he came from was first releasing too

[@joehuber252]

I made up a fan theory that the keyboard came from the god box. My fan theory was that the god box might’a had to do with the keyboard’s creation, and with it coming from the god box of all things, yeah, you see what happened. Originally, this wasn’t even a real theory, it was just something I made up, just-for a *”OH (CRAP)!!!!!”* moment, but, after some thinking, I’m staring to wonder if this theory... might just check out. Not Niles, but what made *”HIM”* what he was, which... I think is even worse... *BUM BUM BUUUUUM!*

[@bruh4138]

10:11 beeg smg4 shows up at the bottom left corner