Smile2Jannah: Intelligent Atheist Defeated & Never Turned! Mansur |Speaker's Corner

[@SamayRajib-h2h]

Absolutely.... Brother zishan, Ali, Munsur & Hashim 🗿🔥🗿

[@SamayRajib-h2h]

ISLAM THE WAY OF LIFE.... ✨

[@SamayRajib-h2h]

Our brother is working so hard.... 🗿🔥🗿

[@dazzkhan2299]

Don't think hes getting it...😂😂

[@SamayRajib-h2h]

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[@scottholder4431]

Muslims have to dive deep into philosophy in order to prove their god.......but that causes them to miss the point. We only have natural processes and those processes do not need a god. We have yet to find any supernatural processes. Secondly, you cannot prove something exists with philosophy and logic. If we can, then prove bigfoot exists with philosophy and logic. You will find that you can't.

[@John_Urnagbob]

@2.06 He says absence of everything including God. Isnt God meant to be eternal, thats a kufri statement. Secondly, if this imaginary God can be eternal then the real universe could also be just as eternal. Thirdly, if nothing can come from nothing, then how did God come out of nothing?

[@fandom5661]

You missed the entire point. Proof that you didn't watch the video.

[@fandom5661]

Probably a skill issue on your side. Or "Brain is not braining". 😂😂

[@John_Urnagbob]

@@fandom5661 adhominems are illogical responses. Try addressing the issues raised instead of attacking the person raising the points.

[@fandom5661]

@@John_Urnagbob just watch the video. It's clear you didn't watch it. Or if you still didn't understand than login online on Thursday on Dawahwise and raise all your points there with the entire panel. They get guys like you all the time.

[@John_Urnagbob]

Too much censorship in here, my comments are being deleted.

[@RahimAhmed-e2b]

Seriously There always has to be an idiot at the end who disturbs and ruins the conversation. Shaytaan

[@TheoSkeptomai3]

Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgment as to the reality of any particular god until sufficient credible evidence is presented. My situation is that *_I currently have no good reason to acknowledge the reality of any god._* And here is why I currently hold to such a position. Below are 11 facts I must consider when evaluating the claim made by certain theists that a particular god exists in reality. To be clear, these are not premises for any argument which _concludes_ there to be no gods. These are simply facts I must take into account when evaluating the verity of such a claim. If any of the following facts were to be contravened at a later time by evidence, experience, or sound argument, I would THEN have good reason to acknowledge such a reality. 1. I have never been presented with a functional definition of a god. 2. I personally have never observed a god. 3. I have never encountered any person who has claimed to have observed a god. 4. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 5. I have never been presented with any _valid_ logical argument, which also introduced demonstrably true premises that lead deductively to an inevitable conclusion that a god(s) exists in reality. 6. Of the many logical syllogisms I have examined arguing for the reality of a god(s), I have found all to contain a formal or informal logical fallacy or a premise that can not be demonstrated to be true. 7. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 8. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 9. I have never knowingly experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 10. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed appears to have *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 11. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have been presented have either been refuted to my satisfaction or do not present as _falsifiable._ ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the reality of any particular god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgment until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstantiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.

[@hamzakamran2485]

@@TheoSkeptomai3 For 7, how would you explain the origination of the universe?

[@TheoSkeptomai3]

@hamzakamran2485 That is a _loaded_ question and a cowardly tactic. Do you agree?

[@TheoSkeptomai3]

@@hamzakamran2485 Well?!?

[@hamzakamran2485]

@@TheoSkeptomai3 The fact that you call it cowardly means you are being deceptive. Be sincere. How does your world view account for the origination of the universe

[@TheoSkeptomai3]

@@hamzakamran2485 Do you know what constitutes a _loaded_ question? Yes or no.