SMITE: BEST New/Changed Mage Items for Season 4 (Mid Guide)

[@DukeSloth]

Ok, next video is coming tomorrow, won't be able to finish another one! Will be covering items + Conquests starts in the upcoming week, comment below what else you'd like to learn about regarding season 4 and it might just end up being a video.

[@jccc254]

DukeSloth can you do a video talking about the starts and builds for assasins in the jungle ?

[@JollyConcrete]

This is only partially regarding season 4, but since I am going to try and play conquest for the first time ever when it comes out, is there any extreme basics, like how each role plays in general or what I should be expected to do, that I should know before I even queue?

[@ToastyYokai]

Hi Duke, I just started subscribing and watching your videos and great info pool. Very awesome, maybe showcase great viable god combos in respect to the healing nerfs and crazy item changes. which ones are synergistic, which ones are detrimental in your opinion. possibly. :)

[@TheCBusha]

Talk about what to do when you can't get to lane by 30 seconds like DMBrandon wants us all to do, bu can't because jungler isn't efficient? Just kidding. That's no longer an excuse in this season xD

[@danc6167]

probably a video for later down the road when we have more of an established meta, but a video on uncommon roles in different lanes and what that means for team comp and counter picks like guardians in solo/jungle, hunters in mid, warriors in support, etc. Maybe attached to that how viable they are in season 4 compared to previous seasons

[@danc6167]

best part of this vid is watching Duke eat a dragon with a dragon

[@dustinliam7878]

Is that Donkey Kong Country I'm hearing in the background? Good stuff, man.

[@DukeSloth]

Yup! :D

[@Moluminati]

I don't know if the background music is new or not, but I really like it. It fits the informative style of your vids very well and I would welcome it to be in every vid from now on.

[@LavaTF2]

I feel like Stone of Fal is going to make Vulcan's ultimate EVEN MOREEE frustrating to use.

[@henriquesousa3022]

LavandulaWine Most of Vulcan players Ult people with no life anyway :v 30% of health can still kill haha

[@LavaTF2]

Wut man you can do like 2K damage with Vulcan's ult

[@henriquesousa3022]

Just saying what people do most of time... Ult in people that escape with low health

[@LavaTF2]

Idk, I Vulcan's ult does so much damage I'd pretty much use it in any situation.

[@MrFallenone]

Well its good to know that scylla doesnt give a fuck as she will pop it with her crush and then kill you with the ult lol

[@hydra680]

Season 4 cant come fast enough! Btw I really like the ambient style music in this video. Very relaxing while also not distracting from your video.

[@EliteDarknesss]

Where was the new item shambals ring or something like that, it's beside demonic grip and telikans ring. Is it any good?

[@INFERN0FIRE]

Also Bumba's mask seems to be pretty decent on mids now, since it gives you a huge amount of sustain, since you'll be attacking jungle camps after every wave (and it helps you clear them much faster too). Of course, that's assuming a full health teammate doesn't come in at the last moment and last hits the jungle camp that you've been soloing (and therefore tanking). Say bye bye to that 30% heal if that happens, but people will probably learn eventually. Just give them some time.

[@DukeSloth]

Talked to a pro about this recently, he said he considers it more of a gimmicky start and doesn't believe it'll find actual viability, but we'll have to see.

[@turtlenator6249]

Anyone know when the patch will be released because of the delay?

[@HaveFunLosingBro]

Love your videos I would like it if the music was turned down more personally. I know you're trying new stuff the music is fine it just seems loud to me compared to your voice.

[@joshuarobinson7406]

As someone who has played Ao Kuang a lot, I've been itching to play The Morrigan due to how similar their play-styles look ( At least in my eyes) and was wondering what people are building on her?

[@HazzyFcrazy]

Can't wait to hear about my favorite class the Hunters

[@swkofalva1339]

HazzyFcrazy same :3

[@rutgeroudenampsen492]

So do you buy telkines ring in early or late game?

[@JohnJohnJohn1234]

Duke, why are you levelling ao kuangs ult before his 1?

[@ProManarchist]

So can I get the shield from book of the dead off of minions?? Like if I use Ra to just sweep a wave will the shield increase on each hit?? It seems good if so because you can win a fight mid lane and heal up then have a shield to fight with when their mid lane comes back or to help if their jungler comes to help clear mid lane whilst their mid lane is waiting to spawn or running back.

[@Hakkapell]

Dukesloth, do you think that new Telkhines Ring is going to be good on Freya?

[@brockmana7733]

book of the dead and telkhines ring seem like they would be good for nu wa, making her passive more relevant and giving more safety with the sheild

[@oxstr8upgreekxo730]

question about the stone of fal when you get hit by an ability and that ability procs soul reaver does the stone include the soul reaver in with he 30% damage maximum or adds soul reaver to that 30%??

[@LittleIslander100]

Hmm, I wonder how Stone of Fal works with Nu Wa's three... based on the tooltip, the explosion and the shard count as the same ability. But it's still two instances of damage, right? If DoTs don't proc it, than two instances shouldn't either unless one does over 30%. So Nu Wa could do like 29% and 23% of something, not proc it, and still do over 50% of your health?

[@eduardonajera9534]

what are your key bindings?

[@muscularclassrepresentativ5663]

Can Freya run the new Telkhines? Cause I used to use that and Demonic grip with spear of the magus and the shred was rediculous, I'm hoping it can still be effective

[@Siriussephiroth]

underwater song from donkey kong country! nice dukesloth!

[@pagnacht]

I think if people want to play anubis, warlock's sash and book of the dead in combination might be nice. Gives him a decent shield. Wont make him meta still, but gives him a bit more health to use when people dive him in a fight

[@chewchub]

I feel like Book of the Dead is decent for Anubis. Not core per say but situational if he keeps getting targeted.

[@zferolie]

You forgot Shamans ring. I kinda like it on Zhong because you gain double healing with your 3 up. Probably not the best on him but fun

[@MrBraffZachlin]

chronos pendant he bo 1 at 8-9 sec seems op. you can use it maybe 3 times in a quick combo with the third being a finisher. 1 at 9 seconds gives basically another cast then burt other abilities and the third time is ready. i haven't tried this but i will

[@iBasheveryone]

It's ten seconds. It's equivalent to 10% cdr, triggering only on cooldowns that are down at the time. Just how it works with he bo is that it's a -1 second to his 4 -> 2.4 max cdr, to 1.4 seconds, so it's an indiscriminate multiplier that benefits from cdr itself to shave off proportionally more. Still possibly not the best on he bo with his 300% kit scaling. :/ 700 power, double hit on one ability, or 900 power, the choice is yours. (I know there's a cap.)

[@MrBraffZachlin]

iBasheveryone oh i see we misunderstood each other. i may still be wrong though i am saying with that 10 second cd it works this way. at 9 seconds into the chronos cooldown you can pop off 1 then when cd is over for the item pop it again becauise it will take that last second off his 1's cd and then via his 1's already low cd of 3 seconds you can pop it after his combo like now. ultimately it gives you an xtra whole water cannon in his combo, and you have the ability to do this combo every 10 seconds which is ridiculous on paper. it takes some management to do, but not much it would seem since every 10 seconds is how long you need to do his full combo as it stands since his 3 has 10 seconds cd now if you think about it chronos now gives hebo a 75% cd reduction on his 1 every 10 seconds. that seems exploitable to me

[@iBasheveryone]

Yeah, I hope that wasn't a misunderstanding. I think I tried to clarify the maths I think? Yeah, he bo will be top tier user of this item, and it'll take a bit of skill, like aligning Chronos clock. I said I'm worried about it being bad on he bo, cause no one plays cooldown he bo anymore, only one shot he bo, and pendant is then a nono.

[@henriquesousa3022]

What you think about Gladiator Shield? And what about the Shield Of Regrowth? Wich mage/Guardian can be good with it, You think Etheral Staff Will recieve a little buff maybe a 5 Sec or 7 Sec internal cd

[@AmitysWake]

Henrique Sousa ethereal got nerfed. buffing it again will make the pts changes useless

[@shaymeu9741]

Pretty accurate but I kinda disagree on Etheral Staff. I think it's still pretty strong. Comapred to Sould Reaver, yes it's less damage, tes it's not true damage, but the stats overall are slightly better, and the passive procs way more often. If build on the right god with the right CDR, you can basically make it proc on every spell rotations, which in my opinion is very strong, especilly with some penetration as it's not true damage. So, to me, depending on the god you play and your build, it can be a better choice than Soul Reaver, as its damage is more "reliable". And where is Shaman Ring ? Does it still exist ?

[@darianbeilby6867]

nu wa with telekhines could be nice for the roots

[@dohertylad4318]

I'm so confused. What are you keybinds man? How do you move?

[@watertower500d6]

DohertyLad He basically moved all his keys down a row.

[@beepboop4833]

He moves with esdf

[@fredhallows2468]

how does stone of fal work with thanas execute?

[@Joon2903]

LeadHeadFred Thanatos isn't magical. The item clearly said it will only proc on magical abilities.

[@x2.MOST1TED.3x]

so y no bumbas mask ? it is realy good 4 sustain in lane espcly when u solo camps and stuff!?

[@ElucidatorGame]

What can be a viable Ra build right now? Bumbas-Soul Stone-Boots-Thot-Asclepcius-Tahuti-Obsidian-Soul Reaver(last 2 selling first 2)?

[@gonzalogarcia312]

Can you make a new tier list for season 4? Love to hear your thoughts on everyone in Season 4.

[@henriquesousa3022]

Gonzalo Garcia I think Duke Its gonna wait like a month and see the things in S4, You can't say for PTS

[@wasterick]

guys when season 4 goes live?

[@Yatsu2]

it is live, for PC anyway

[@wasterick]

thanks, I already know

[@sibiris8474]

HE FUCKING KNOWS ALREADY!!!1

[@sibiris8474]

***** are you sure about that?

[@sibiris8474]

***** k.

[@Paiin00]

where is Bumbas Mask? Its Op for Mid mages now ^^

[@Keleox-]

Is the video really grainy for other people as well?

[@watertower500d6]

Jairus Lin might be because dukesloth's game looks like shit

[@raphapavam]

you just skiped Spear of desolation? its a fucking really god item now, gives cdr and pen, and its not so expansive

[@apocalfailed8090]

HardenedHellHunter I agree, it is now something like a magical jotunns and should be built as such.

[@DukeSloth]

It's a lot more expensive than Jotunn's with a highly situational passive, it should NOT be treated on the same level as Jotunn's at all.

[@apocalfailed8090]

Didn't desolation lost its passive?

[@apocalfailed8090]

I am referring to the new desolation, should have said that... if I didn't get anything wrong, its about 2700 bucks, only 40 more than jotunns, and brings 70 power, 15 mag pen, and 10 cdr.

[@LittleIslander100]

The most recent hotfix (the version of 4.1 that goes to live) changed it again. Has 80 power, and a passive, not sure if anything else was changed.

[@Dalkian]

Warlocks + etheral staff with book of the dead will be a nice little combo.

[@amirmansor7492]

hunter builds for s4?

[@ian9372]

Rallying ritual got removed? I think?

[@Smartguy898]

Did you forget shamans ring?

[@prizrak69]

9:13 dragon eats dragon ^_^

[@MewSquared]

How am I supposed to build good CDR for Kukulkan early now since Chronos Pendant is a late game item in season 4?

[@cowisiontv6611]

Dana Peterson sand of time

[@lucari0s0]

the background music is from a level of donkey kong country? i repeat much a part of the video and I realized XD

[@MrBraffZachlin]

if book of dead stacks i can see mages who can self heal use it by stacking the sheild while taking poke damage. basicall get poked heal up --> stack sheild. only if it stacks though, if not it would still work by keeping you at a higher max health but the mana to do this might be counter productive and in solo lane probably not easy, plus it is too expensive to get early on when when topping your health is easiest

[@iBasheveryone]

Think it does have a cooldown, yeah. Balance =/= fun :(

[@MrBraffZachlin]

iBasheveryone i think it would say if it did. for example the ethereal staff got a cd of 10sec now and it is in the description. that said i doubt it stacks. that said a time limit on the sheilds uptime would be a better solution to the stacking problem if they did allow it

[@imlegendmoe]

no music again??? @DukeSloth

[@imlegendmoe]

nevermind sorry.. the music starts a little bit in the video haha

[@robertl.5217]

When does 4.1 hit live?

[@OwldoesMC]

Inconspicuous Username It will go live tomorrow (Wednesday). It was supposed to be live today, but hirez announced on their twitter they are holding it back a day to fix a few more bugs.

[@Mr_poopypants69]

Gavin Wills Will it be on console tomorrow too?

[@OwldoesMC]

jake smith​ Not tomorrow. I think It is February 28, but I could be wrong. EDIT: I just checked, and it's coming to consoles on February 8th.

[@Mr_poopypants69]

Gavin Wills Okay. Thanks

[@KurumiTokisakiNightmareSpirit]

Is Spear of Desolation good?

[@henriquesousa3022]

HardenedHellHunter The passive Its not bad '-' Its more the price really

[@henriquesousa3022]

But has no CD on the Passive

[@DukeSloth]

Not good enough to make it into the list of good items imo. The stats just aren't there.

[@kev3408]

Wat about dat 1700 gold item which I think was binding stone but I'm not sure I feel like dat item could be really strong for mage dat have hard cc in their kit

[@zerg539]

So Pythagoras' seems like a buy for all Guardians and Mages. Am I wrong?

[@zerg539]

Also Chronos Pendant is 25-30% CDR effectively with 5-10% of that being above the cap so to speak.

[@henriquesousa3022]

HardenedHellHunter I can see Pythag's like a viable option for Ares, But yeah, Only him

[@henriquesousa3022]

I do not say its optimal, I say is viable

[@iBasheveryone]

Well hi there. Damage on guardians is already ok, they just deal damage without stacks, where 80 damage is pretty optimal already. Don't tell me you haven't had one of those games where you just hopped around in the enemy tower because 3 defense items are already sort of excessive and couldn't kill anything with your base damage. 60... is pretty weak, but there's been times where guardians just filled in with the free scaling without having a carry do it (old HoG, original Sovereignty, etc.) This is a straight nerf from old Pythags though, and it won't fill in the Anubis op item, so this item might just be a carry harder item that won't get picked up by mages as a core, but definitely not enough of a power investment for supports. The +power stats for once are less than -power stats on Witchblade equivalents, which sounds pretty much like a support-tier (aka we made this item bad for "ur roles") item. The real downfall of this item is that even with your whole team there you're not getting a stat boost equal to Tahuti, say; Guardians _or_ Mages, except the lifesteal is still equal (now) to Bancrofts, which isn't used as a power item although it is. The more I read from you, M00N, the more scared I get. Don't get so passionate over your support leaving you, me gerd. Take a pill of chill.

[@iBasheveryone]

Cause you know, as for fighting potential, the optimal build is a mix of (slightly overtuned) defense items and some means of doing damage, whether that be MM, Telkhines Fatalis, Soul Reaver, Poly, or whatever you dream. Supports are built super tank in pro conquest solely just to be cc bots. Solo is a bit different.

[@tarille1043]

Book of the Dead... Doesn't specify gods. So potential to hit minions/jungle camps to just get a free 20% health buffer for a mid-late game teamfight? (Provided the shield lasts until broken rather than timed)

[@buddylewis3788]

warrior tabi, blood forge, asi, poison star, death bringer, last items your choice. I like hasten fatilis

[@tykelly8236]

+DukeSloth yo can you do one for supports?

[@AWonderfulGalaxy]

thank you for making videos i love you man

[@HiPNoTiX718]

Good stuff as always.

[@INFERN0FIRE]

No Shield of Regrowth? Seems to be really good on mages like chang'e and hel.

[@jseigle_]

Infernofire This video was specifically for mags only items. There will be more like this to come

[@maximusinus]

It bothered me during all the video.. Was it a remix of Aquatic ambiance from Donkey kong country 1 playing in the back ?

[@DukeSloth]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nl6UaIanYrKIq68 ;)

[@CadeAid1]

Why am I just realizing that Sands of Time passive is the old Bluestone passive?

[@iBasheveryone]

It's not. It's more like the passive put on Hydras. It is bluestone 2.0 tho, Hirez learn your lesson. Just, uh, flat mana per proc and some mana regen instead of percentage of missing mana.

[@special_needs_ra2303]

hope too see a lot more guardian god releases this season too many mage's are being released

[@SilentUnlived]

Please do one for Warriors

[@Zeephon]

I kinda wanna try book of the dead on Anubis...

[@watertower500d6]

Zephon Yeah that's what I was thinking! Warlock sash and book of the dead for a kinda big health shield.

[@muscularclassrepresentativ5663]

Book of the dead on Anubis cause he has lifesteal anyway and gets the spoopy shield in a couple seconds from any of his tick abilities

[@hachi9404]

I expect a triple upload! XD

[@lxThunderxl]

From what Book of the dead looks like, it has no cooldown to the passive and the shield might potentially last forever? First thought: Nu Wa

[@matheuscampos5288]

donkey Kong song lol, its has been a long time that i dont hear this music... thanks for all the information, ill try to play better ten before with all this information thanks

[@SlaveryEvolves]

I don't understand why people think Telkhines ring is buffed. It's Nerfed. The passive on the old one was +40 damage per attack. Mages get 25% of power added to AAs, so the passive was the equivalent in terms of AA damage of having 160 power on top of the 40 power that came with the item. And that's starting with the first attack, not the 6th when you have 5 stacks. Then the attack speed was reduced 10% Then the cost was increased. Where is the buff? Oh right, Sol and strange Poseidon and towers. That's sorta niche so why not at least reduce the cost? It's garbage and shaman ring doesn't make up for it.

[@jeremylong8535]

stone of fal seems to be way to op of an item as it can save you in way to many instances I'd say remove it or put the passive on like a 250 to 300sec cool down

[@FidelCattto]

if only it was 29% could stop ao kuang ults once and awhile. Book of the dead seems like are you Anubis if yes maybe if not no seems way to expensive for what it gives. Also with Ethereal staff it's 250 gold less than Soul Reaver and comes out to approximately 10% more health taken off depending on how tanky a target is doesn't do much to a tank obviously but is much stronger against squishies as you have that little extra chunk up much more often

[@CapitalCrunch]

No views? That's the first time I'm seeing this

[@legokangaroo5010]

your awesome :) and u seem like a good person

[@mathcap9705]

So, which items are good early game right now?

[@sibiris8474]

boots

[@shenron4]

you forgot bumbas mask

[@mercury3126]

thank you!

[@DoneyHooney]

I feel like duke was seducing me with that music and his voice... 10/10

[@sylvilagus4009]

Ethereal Staff is now just new Soul Reaver but a little bit weaker.

[@Stonegoal]

If you are not comparing the unchanged items why would it matter?

[@AlzhinSon]

Travis Romig people who already played the game know the old items. This presents them with their new viable options

[@Stonegoal]

Its like a tier list when new gods are added to the list they can be top tier gods which lower the tier of the old gods. I found Wind Demon to be OP in season 3 how does it compare to all the other items currently in the game and the items which are being released. If you do not compare saying something is good is pointless.

[@Drawfill]

Cant focus on numbers, mesmerized by DK Country water level theme song.

[@dimaselang930]

stone of fal, the slumbering from vainglory

[@BishyB]

anubis with book of the dead this is why i have crippling depression

[@crazyazz1117]

it last forever and I saw that as more of a tank item (book of the dead)

[@AyyAsttrox]

Your key mappings are so weird, but if it works for you

[@-green-405]

I still build Chronos' pendant second because I don't understand power curves and want to become a meme. Worst part is, I actually don't understand power curves

[@Prayywastaken]

dat sexy ra tho, look at him healing all over the place

[@Toniiic411]

I still build Chronos' Pendant second because I don't understand power curves and want to become a meme.

[@MrFallenone]

Shamans ring ? HELLO ?

[@iBasheveryone]

We all just pray that the heal % on hit items will be removed, so let's not encourage its existence by acknowledging it. :(

[@MonsterPlays]

Season 4 probably will be much better than s3

[@AMB9095]

Tbh, playing since mid s1, I think s3 was the worst season so far

[@holyhero6380]

Sir.Apple (AMB9095) hmmmm season 2 was eh also season 3 season 1 was fun tho

[@iBasheveryone]

s3 was the season where none of the changes mattered. Tanks nerfed? So much for diversity in duel. They're still not going to die EleGiggle. Adcs nerfed? Just play a new op adc. Mages buffed? Well... oh look, they're now op. As far as gameplay goes, there shouldn't be too much stale throughout the season unless you've burned out (Camazotz bruh), and there's a new few gamemodes tho (whether that's just another fwotd for you or not). Worse thing is new op gods being released and not tuned down for months, not just in the patch where it's enabled in ranked. Those were sad times.

[@javiergaeta9370]

yo wadup

[@javiergaeta9370]

Bearbo Cute wadup

[@SparksFly-vr4jm]

stone of fal? more like get rekt Scylla.

[@henriquesousa3022]

SparksFly2323 She can proc that shit with the 2 than ult .-. She is not rekt

[@SparksFly-vr4jm]

that's what aegis is for. but real talk man i know she can still easily kill people, it's just nice to see some kind of item counter to that walking nuke.

[@henriquesousa3022]

I don't like Scylla because I think she just have to much, One the most powerfull abilitys in the game, A Stun that hit more harder than some other mages dmg abilitys, A Very powerfull escape, You can even outplay hard with that, And one of the bes ultimates in the game .-. She just have to much

[@orelthelegendarywarrior8609]

do the same to pyhs items btw good vid :)

[@TheGameCrafterKing]

The gameplay with ao kuang hurt my eyes.

[@johnthedropper7289]

Stone of Fal is going to be built on every single mage.

[@AmitysWake]

JohnTheDropper no way lol itll hinder you and it's expensive

[@gregoirepasquier4186]

why quin sais is not nerfed ? there is no logic behind the etherial staff nerf ! if this item is Brocken quin sais is even more Brocken so just nerf it. it's just math 3x5%=15% and ∞x4%=∞% so nerf it.

[@Daicarrus]

Gregoire Pasquier Mages have AoE damage, ethereal was too Meta in the pts, quins can only be activated in a single target based god, quins is much more situational, Pen or crit is a better choice then building quins in most situations.

[@youssefselman4142]

ethereal staff nullifies the existence of soul reaver. Ethereal staff gives you 5% every ten seconds. Soul reaver does 10% every 40 seconds. Yes ethereal staff might not do true damage but it will over all do more than soul reaver in the same time.

[@janrosama]

Youssef Selman hmm imma try that :)

[@Adjusting1]

If you are talking about mid laner's items you could play mid laner, not jungle, jungle, jungle or jungle...

[@Adjusting1]

M00NxM00N yeah, I have seen Izanami mod on SWC finals this year, that was awesome idea

[@AhmedMuhyi]

GUARDIANS! roo4 >.> Hoi duke -JACC

[@emtee2925]

Ooo, Ethereal staff is back to being weak now, just like S3.

[@DaLegacy96]

Watching you play ao was making me sad. Lol

[@masterroy1996]

I'm so sad about my ethereal staff. give me back my tank item...

[@stark-7128]

Aphrodite should have a good year.

[@Adjusting1]

stark - i don't think she will be played, there is no place for her, not best support because 2 squishies on lane, not good as mid laner either because there are gods with hard nuke damage so team wouldn't have nuke damage at late game, solo is even funnier, imagine Bellona vs Aphro...

[@stark-7128]

Von Percival lol she's only a god some people can play. Most try to jump out to early in the game but if you play your cards right she can make the team better but again only if the player and the term know when to jump in and back off when needed.. But I'll kill it with sands of time having that early CDR will help her. Chronos pendent , Spear of Desolation and Pythagorem piece will have me set with full CDR.