Smith & Wesson Performance Center 2.0 5 Inch - Not What I Expected...

[@MDpolo]

Please read the video notes. It will bring context as to when the was filmed. Thank you.

[@tacticalbt1023]

M&P 2.0s are great combat or duty guns in my opinion.

[@NorthCountryOutlaw]

I've owned 2 of the 2.0 series, a shield and a full size very nice pistols I regret selling my full size one, thinking about getting a new one

[@terrygrant3600]

I have same gun, its a great gun very well designed, very accurate, the red dot mounting no problems, and if are familiar with the S&W Preformance Center guns you would have known that they come in a cardboard box, that leaves it up to the gun owner to be able to pick the type case that best fits their needs.

[@Hialeah1925]

Like Glock sights.. right?

[@NorthCountryOutlaw]

That doesn't bother me I can get a case for $20 or less

[@robertborne895]

I have a S&W C.O.R.E. In 5” and it came with a nice blue hard case. The Performance Center line should also come with one. IMHO

[@American-BadAss732]

Who needs a fancy box when you plan on using the thing

[@MDpolo]

I do. When I pay $800+ I expect more than a cardboard box. Just me. Thanks for watching.

[@marksmith568]

You do a very nice job explaining everything about this pistol. It seems as if you wanted to be more complimentary in your review but couldn't. That's good because we need these firearm companies to be held to the highest standards within reason. Good job,sir.

[@MDpolo]

Thank you very much for your kind words. That’s exactly right. I was trying and I spent a year sitting on this video and shooting the pistol over and over again just to make sure that what I have put on video was exactly how I felt -and it was just not for me. Thank you for watching!

[@MrTs2art]

Sorry you had a bad experience. I have the same gun and it’s been amazing. AMAZING!! I absolutely love it. Great consistency when shooting and a great feeling and good looking gun. I’ll grant your correct on the cardboard box but let’s be honest once you buy it… you don’t use that box or kit any longer so it becomes irrelevant. But a plastic case would be nicer to sit and collect dust so i guess i understand. If we are just talking about the gun though, once again it’s too shelf. Very ergonomic built and ready to accept any optic and most importantly it’s consistent! S&W did the elusive miracle and brought sexy back!

[@MDpolo]

I’m very glad that it’s working well for you. Thank you very much for sharing your experience and for watching.

[@jr303official]

I personally just called S&W and they told me all the info I needed. I have videos on this gun and it's one of my favorite guns. I would choose S&W any similar type gun. You need to upgrade a couple of parts and it shoots like a dream. It shoots and is as accurate as I dare say my 1911.

[@cashmoney9256]

What parts do you suggest need upgrading?

[@jr303official]

@@cashmoney9256 have a video on my upgrades on my channel. I suggest put an apex trigger and floyd's custom mag extensions and mag well.

[@bradwhite4827]

They have directions in the box for mounting red dots. I would rather have the cleaning kit. I kinda dig the box. It was like buying an old school s&w revolver back in the day. I love this gun personally! I've put probably a couple 2 thousand rounds through it and its definitely one of my favorite guns i own if not my favorite! To each is own but I love the trigger on this gun, I love the functions it comes with, I love the looks, and I really love the way it shoots!

[@MDpolo]

The manual that came with my pistol did not have any instructions. I went through it from beginning to end. I don’t know if I just got a manual with missing information or it was an early model and it was not included at that time. I’m very glad it’s working for you and I thank you very much for watching!

[@troya1495]

The manual has the plate type for rmr type. The screws I understand that's not specific but there are other KZbin videos out there for this.

[@MDpolo]

Please read the comment note. My specific sample did not have any mention as to which plate to use with which red dot much less the screws. I filmed this video a year ago. They might have added the plate and screw information to the manual in later runs. But mine did not have it and I looked carefully. Maybe some videos have uploaded since I filmed this one. Thank you very much for watching.

[@jonathanharpe4333]

I really do like your review. I haven’t gotten mine yet. I will say this for 700ish swapping out a trigger and getting a metal Optic plate I don’t mind. As by comparison my X-5 Legion needed an optics plate and after around a yr swapped the trigger as well which I would’ve done sooner if one were available. Which I got my Legion cheaper than some and it was still more than the most expensive 2.0. Thank You so much for your time and input. I will definitely consider all you have mentioned

[@MDpolo]

Thank you very much for stopping by. I appreciate it!

[@Klaxet]

I liked this gun but I think selling $750 gun in card box is ridiculous..... so at the end I went with Beretta APX A1 which comes with nice case, Burris optics installed for $550 minus $100 rebate ($450 total). Nice honest review, thank you.

[@MDpolo]

I agree with you and I love the APX by the way. Thank you very much for stopping by.

[@richardgetchell538]

There’s lots of info online saying you use the same plate for Holosun as the RMR. If you don’t like it then sell it. It’s an absolutely awesome firearm that functions perfectly, and is very accurate.

[@MDpolo]

I’m very happy that works for you. As I mentioned in the video and in many comments since, when I published this video there was very little information. My owners manual did not have any reference to the plates. My understanding is that now they do. Thank you for watching.

[@Jazzy_530]

@@MDpolo I have the M&P 4” performance center Shield plus and want to put eh Holosun 507c on it. So you have to know which plate adapter I must use?

[@MDpolo]

@Andre Joyce there must’ve been a fluke with the owners manual that came with my gun or it was something added later, but mine did not come with any instructions on how to mount a red dot. I am told that now they do come with mounting instructions. So if you buy one it should have it in the manual. An easy way to check is at the gun store, ask to see the box and check the manual.

[@Luvmygrands10]

​​@@Jazzy_530 I have the 507c and I'm looking to put it on this gun, I am a little leary though because of the issue with them flying off, hopefully I can get a steel plate maybe like the one Walther sent me for my PDP

[@jeremytownsend1800]

Totally agree with the card board box. Mine came with the CT optic in the box. To me it was easy matching them with proper screws and plate. While I do like the apex flat trigger better. I shot the standard M2.0 and the performance center is 100% better. They must have tweaked it. Mine does not have nearly as much play as in the video.

[@MDpolo]

I love, love Smith & Wesson revolvers. But with the exception of the new 10 mm, I have not had good luck with their polymer striker fired models. Thank you very much for watching.

[@BATaylorEsq2023]

By the way, there is a full section in the S&W M&P "Safety&Instruction Manual" that came with the M2.0 Performance Center C.O.R.E. pistol. Nobody RTFMs, much, but I'm not an expert, so I read all the gun manuals I get. Anyway, pp. 44-47 of this pistol's manual has detailed instructions on how to mount any of the 7 makes of red dots, and a chart showing which of the mounting plates, #1-7 to use for the brand of red dot, plus which screws they give will fit through your red dot through the plate into the top of the gun. Very detailed, no guessing, all parts and screws included for most major brands. S&W tried, so we should take advantage of this nice benefit. Cheers!

[@MDpolo]

Yes, but that information was not included in the earlier model of this release. I read my manual as well and it was not included. Smith & Wesson must’ve added this later on in the production of this handgun. Thank you very much for watching and I appreciate your comment!

[@robertborne895]

I had a S&W C.O.R.E. with a 5” barrel,and it came with a nice blue hard case. It too had the ability to mount an optic. The Performance Center line should also come with one. IMHO

[@MDpolo]

I agree. Thank you very much for stopping by.

[@markd3690]

Owners manual pages 44-47 gets into optic plate and screw selection for red dot mounting, but it's not very clear. Would have been nice if they'd just put that on a dedicated instruction card and re-formatted their presentation of the info. Hard to find plus hard to interpret equals bad documentation for the user.

[@MDpolo]

The later versions of this pistol do have it mentioned in the owners manual as you correctly point out. On the description of the video I noted that my owners manual does not have that section. Based on the serial number I believe I got an earlier release. For whatever reason my owners manual didn’t have it and it was a nightmare. Thank you very much for watching and for your feedback. I appreciate it!

[@marksd5650]

I’ve got nothing to add today since I’ve never shot an M&P, though with my arthritis I’m expecting to need an EZ at some point. I have five Sig Legions, and Springfield TRPs all with great triggers, though my newest P226 Legion SAO could use a short reset trigger kit, though it appears the SRT kit is only available for DA/SA pistols. My S&W 629 .44 came with a hard case, so maybe you need to spend $1K before you are blessed with a hard case. ? Don’t know. I’m not a fan of striker fired plastic guns anyway, though my main carry is a p365 when it’s not the Springfield Ronin. Best Regards sir and thank you as always for your in depth reviews and excellent camera work for close ups.

[@MDpolo]

Thank you very much for watching and for sharing your experience. I really appreciate it. By the way the P226 Legion SAO is one of my all-time favorites. Cheers!

[@steelydan146]

The optics need an aftermarket aluminum plate C & H Precision Weapons. The triggers have been updated by S&W on the newer M&Ps in past year.

[@MDpolo]

Yes indeed! Thank you for watching!

[@albertbrooks2456]

How has the plastic plate held up all this time? Also my plate cover doesn’t say core on it. Is there a difference in the two firearms? Everything on this looks just like mine minus the core on the plate cover

[@MDpolo]

The CORE system is Smith and Wesson‘s version of the MOS system for Glock. And the plates have held up just fine. Please keep in mind that I don’t use this firearm very much. Just sits in the safe. Thank you very much for stopping by.

[@albertbrooks2456]

@@MDpolothanks for the info, I don’t shoot mine that much as well. It’s almost been a year and I probably put about 300 rounds through it. Loved the review, spot on. I also agree with you on this, the firearm isn’t what I was expecting it to be. But after spending almost $800 I can’t see myself selling it.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Thanks, that was on my list but I saw other mixed reviews. Why can't we agree on every maker using common screws, just longer or shorter?

[@MDpolo]

That would make sense wouldn’t it? I sat on this video for a year and I shot that pistol for that length of time to make sure that I was being fair to it and to make sure that what I had put on the video was exactly how I felt. Now the video is posted and the pistol is gone. As always, thank you very much for watching.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@MDpolo HR Funk really liked his. But I haven't ever liked S&W except the revolvers. Looking at the 59xx series but worried about the trigger.

[@tomscyclerecycling8242]

Good video overall. The cardboard box doesn't bother me as I'll be using a hard plastic "pelican-type" case for my handguns. I think the gun is an excellent value for the money. As far as the provided sights go, compare to the Sig P320 for $1100 that doesn't come with night sights either. Buy the crimson trace version of this gun for around $900 and you have a nice overall range gun. BTW - the crimson trace red dot sight also has the gap you pointed out with your Holosun. Thanks.

[@MDpolo]

You are very welcome. I appreciate all the information that you provide. Thank you very much for stopping by.

[@Tentechllc]

To be fair, there is a plate type vs. RDS brand table in the user manual...

[@MDpolo]

The user manual which came with my gun had no information whatsoever about the plates or the mounting system for the optic. Zero information.

[@Just1Guy1000]

One video I watched the gentleman said there was a chart for plates and screws in the back of the manual. I haven't verified this.

[@MDpolo]

The manual that came with mine had zero information on the plates or the mounting system.

[@Just1Guy1000]

@MDpolo Interesting. I went and looked at the manual that came with my Shield Plus PC OR didn't have anything in it, but the manual that came with my 2.0 compact did. It is the Safety & Instruction Manual copyright 2019 on pages 46-47.

[@Luvmygrands10]

I heard more than a few stories regarding the red dot flying off, what's the deal with that? I ordered the Performance yesterday but I'm really having secong thoughts from some recent reviews, am I wrong? Lol

[@MDpolo]

Just order the plate that you need from CNH and you’ll be just fine.

[@Jacob-t1j]

I have this gun and 92x performance, both trigger reset are the same: it will not push you back, you have to bring your finger back. I think maybe because these guns for competition use?

[@MDpolo]

I don’t have the 92X that you mention, but I have many competition pistols and none of them behave his way. Anyway it was just not for me. Thank you very much for watching. I appreciate it!

[@stovepipe8966]

I have a 2.0 Pro Series non- CORE non- ported 5 “- these models come with competition fiber optic irons installed (the assumption is that if you buy a CORE, you’re installing a RD thus the white dot co-witness ) IMO the factory tuned PC trigger job is very fast if you like M&P triggers and better than a standard M&P 2.0 - Re-set feel and the apparent demand for “ tactile audible reset” is fun for slow fire target shooting but mostly irrelevant at competition speed IMO - full speed split times with this pistol are very good - in fact better than some of my strikers with supposedly “better” triggers - I don’t feel the need for an Apex upgrade I had mine direct cut for a RMR which allows for my HS 507C to sit 1/2 further back then the CORE plate set up requires , so no lens fouling My set up requires that you remove the rear sight , so no complete co-witness But , for competition , I just use the front sight post anyway as an index when shooting weak hand at more acute angles , as that’s the only scenario in which I can lose the dot My only real complaint about this pistol is the stiffness of the slide release , as if I’m doing an emergency reload at full speed , I prefer to drop the slide with my strong hand thumb The original M&P would slide drop on a mag slam , as does the CZP10F or my new PDP FS I wish that S&W had retained that feature as it’s IMO an asset in an IDPA match , not as big an issue in USPSA The Pro series is completely reliable , comparably accurate to any other quality striker etc I didn’t mind the cardboard box , unless you’re going to send me case comparable in quality to Pelican or a snuck I’d rather have the useful cleaning kit lol !

[@MDpolo]

Thank you very much for watching and sharing your thoughts and experience. I really appreciate it.

[@waterhead1359]

I knew the optic came off when you mentioned you had a problem with the mounts sorry that happened. My first M&P compact came in a hard container I think it depends on who and what day it is boxed. I have the core optic ready ordered should receive it Sunday or Monday it has front serrations no porting but has Suppressor hight sights which is Unique most other gun companies optic ready pistols come with regular sights and have to buy sight to co witness . And even though plastic comes with all plates , others come with maybe one free plate. Shooting my regular m&p when actually firing it I don't notice the passive reset I do like the take up for defensive trigger. For 599.00 the core is I think a bargain . I don't Blame you for being upset about the cardboard box and plates and screws with no Designation. Hopefully I might have better luck another great review

[@MDpolo]

I love S&W but this was just not for me. Thank you for watching.

[@noahbowers1205]

The owners manual has an entire page showing which plate goes for which foot print.

[@MDpolo]

My owners manual did not. I’ve gone through it page by page. I don’t know why. Perhaps I got an early version and it was added to the manual later? Who knows. But I can’t tell you that my manual had no information on the red dot.

[@901taclife6]

Did the suppressor sights come on it, if not what brand are they?

[@MDpolo]

Yes, the suppressor sights came with it. This gun is 100% factory stock. Thank you very much for watching!

[@PCS230]

I’m very interested in getting this pistol but I might get it without the red dot. And, I think it’ll be better with an Apex trigger.

[@JohnHall-em6hz]

Get the bull shark gray 2.0 you won’t be disappointed man. I got it and it is awesome. Hard case extended mags. The works.

[@Hialeah1925]

Thanks for your honesty

[@MDpolo]

You are very welcome. Thank you very much for stopping by.

[@Hialeah1925]

@@MDpolo I watch regularly.

[@MDpolo]

@@Hialeah1925 I appreciate that very much.

[@felipecastro5752]

Hello Mister!How about you? I get two asks are below: 1-Can you Recommend this gun for beginners? 2-Can you indicate for carry? Lord bless you and family. Many thanks.

[@claytonwalker7536]

Buy a stock full size Glock, a set of suppressor height sights and your already over $700. The description of those plates and how they work are in the manual.

[@MDpolo]

The description and how the plates work was added to the manual in later production of the CORE system pistols. It was not in the manual that was included with my pistol. Thank you very much for watching.

[@claytonwalker7536]

@@MDpolo oh okay. My friends firearm had one but it was just bought about 2 months ago. 👍

[@ryanjofre]

Only a custom company like Southwest precision can mill a slide for the exact reddot you want. That lack of support sucks.

[@colt10mmsecurity68]

Very good video. Very informative. I too prefer my regular 4.25” 2.0 9mm for duty use and/or my 5” FDE. I can opt to carry either one at work. I’ve looked at the performance center version vs. the CORE model and I’m not impressed with either one. They both just led me back to the regular 2.0 M&P9 4.25” and 5” FDE models. Personally, I like the factory triggers “as-is.” I’m not into RMR’s as I like the “minimalist” approach to a handgun. Trijicon night sights works great with maybe a Surefire 300X/U. That’s the only changes I have made on my M&P’s.

[@MDpolo]

Sounds like that’s the way to go. Thank you very much for your kind words and for watching. I appreciate it!

[@mrgoodkat8567]

All they did was polish the internals for their “tuning”. It lightened up the pull about a pound and smoothed it out.

[@901taclife6]

Did you look it over and dry fire it before you bought it?

[@MDpolo]

I did, but one of the things I wanted to do for the channel is see if it would get better overtime and smooth out as I put rounds through it.

[@luisabellon5869]

Agree with your assessment. But trigger was just as bad on my Glock 34, P320 X5 and XDM 5.25. Had to do trigger/action jobs in all of them. The P320 went to Grayguns, others I did myself. I must say that the P320 now has the best trigger, not by much, at a much higher price.

[@luisabellon5869]

Actually, the trigger on my Performance Center EZ, is a much better trigger than the PC 2.0 Try a PC EZ, you will like it better.

[@MDpolo]

Yes, but the point of purchasing a “Performance Center” pistol is that you are getting an upgraded trigger. The pistols that you mentioned in your comment are standard production pistols. That’s what disappointed me about this pistol. If it was a standard model and it had this awful trigger - OK. But it is being sold as an upgraded trigger from their performance center shop. Maybe I was just expecting too much. Thank you very much for watching.

[@luisabellon5869]

@@MDpolo same happened to me with the P320 X5, I expected a lot more. I thought X5 meant top of the line for Sig.

[@katanapr3]

I have noticed that lately gun manufacturers are cutting corners to save money but I don't see the savings passed on to the consumer. I have the same trim pistol but on the original version, the 1.0 and that one came in a nice hard case with all the plates and screws and a well detail instructions manual. Mine has a good 2lbs trigger tactile and audible. Me personally never liked any of the 2.0, I don't see the reaon why the changed. I like all my 1.0's

[@MDpolo]

Thank you very much for sharing your experience And for taking the time to watch. I really appreciate it.

[@stevesparks2001]

what are you impressed with?

[@MDpolo]

Everything’s personal preference. But I did not see much difference between this “performance center“ trigger versus the regular 2.0 trigger. I was just expecting the trigger to be at least noticeably better than the regular 2.0.

[@yeetyeet8365]

Your not missing anything. It does feel great in the hand. Porting is on the gimmick side of things. The smaller 9 mm are great. I’m curious how the new 10mm will compare to the Springfield 10 mm. I have a Shadow 2 so I’m kinda covered in this department. I’ll take the weight over those ports any day.

[@MDpolo]

I’m curious about the new 10 mm as well. We’ll see how long it takes them to show up locally. Thank you very much for watching.

[@AJ-gk7bn]

In what way is the porting a gimmick? That’s a pretty silly thing to say. Porting on their 3.1” m&p shield I find to be a little gimmicky considering you need a longer barrel for it to really have an effect but on a long slide competition sized gun the ports make a significant and noticeable difference.

[@ara198810]

If u read the manual it tells u everything about which plates to use..... I have the same gun

[@MDpolo]

I did read the manual and the manual that came with my gun does not have any information regarding the optics. So either I got a manual with missing information or they added information in later models.

[@ryanjofre]

All that needs is a Apex tactical barrel(south west precision can port the barrel) and an Apex trigger kit for world class accuracy!!! I’d find a great deal on a used M&P 2.0 5”, buy the apex trigger kit, buy the apex barrel and have all the milling work you want done slide and barrel bye SWP! Not impressed for $750. Godspeed

[@betoavila5049]

Is a good gun but not for the price, Well explain, good Review , thanks For sharring 👍

[@MDpolo]

Thank you for your kind words and for taking the time to watch. I appreciate it!

[@MichaelO7027]

Look in the book! For the proper plate to use.

[@MDpolo]

I did look in the book and my book did not come with any instructions regarding the red dot. I don’t know if I got an early model that didn’t have the instructions for the red dot or I got the wrong book. Thank you very much for stopping by.

[@Donkfrog34]

It 100% comes with instructions on which red dot to use and how to install in. You must have not looked at the manual.

[@MDpolo]

That is incorrect sir. I went thoroughly through my manual. The manual that came with my firearm did not address the mounting plates. Thank you for stopping by.

[@frankbutta9344]

My first M&P was a 5” Pro model. The trigger was rumored to be good, but I QUICKLY spent $175 on an Apex’s top competition trigger. That solved the trigger problem, but it wasn’t the most accurate pistol at 25 yards. Shooting from a rest produced some really inconsistent groups. In my older videos, I have a table filled with M&P pistols of various sizes, but they’ve all been sold off. The 2.0’s “forward serrations” are bizarre at best. My polymer pistols are Glock 19’s and P365’s now. 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@MDpolo]

Thank you very much for sharing your experience and for watching. I had high expectations for this pistol. It was very disappointing. Cheers!

[@xGoobeyBearx]

What duty holster fits this exact model?

[@MDpolo]

I can’t answer your question because I have never looked into a holster for this one. Thank you very much for stopping by.

[@chrisw3776]

I have been saying for years that S&W Performance Center is not worth the price. (at least the polymer PC, most of the PC revolvers are really nice). Still a point of contention that the Performance Centers come in cardboard box. Where's the pride of ownership? The, "I went an paid $750-$1000 on a Smith and Wesson Performance Center" if you will. I would describe S&W entire polymer PC line as unremarkable. The lack of information concerning mounting the optics plate and screws is irresponsible.

[@MDpolo]

I completely agree with your comment. I haven’t seen it, but I’ve been told that now they do include instructions in the owners manual on mounting the optic. But even then, you still get everything mixed together in one plastic bag so you still have to figure out which screws are which and which plate goes with your optic. Makes you appreciate how the Glock MOS and FN plates and screws are present it to you. Thank you very much for watching.

[@kwanhan1940]

Yeah disappointing to see a 700+ gun being subpar considering its smith and wesson. I do love their revolvers that I own such as model 686+, model 29, and performance center magnum hunter.

[@MDpolo]

I do love their revolvers and I featured I feel them here in the channel. I’m still on the hunt for a nice 686+. Thank you very much for watching!

[@backwoodscharlie8483]

Subpar?

[@jamescarter4175]

I am not in the market for such a pistol, but if I were I would not touch this one thanks to your fair and thorough review.

[@MDpolo]

Thank you for watching out for your kind words. I appreciate it.

[@jamescarter4175]

@@MDpolo You're welcome. My pleasure.

[@whiteyshark5826]

Should be titled, "Female dog cries about basic female dog things that are easy to find out before you buy with 30 seconds of research."

[@MDpolo]

Good one. Thank you. God bless.

[@williamcrawford7982]

Mine is awesome, i dont use the box for anything! 🇺🇸👍✔

[@HawkEyeJ85]

Gun is awesome I like the old school box and it's one of the lowest priced race ready guns that's also one of the best in my opinion. GUN is GOOD just buy it! if you have tools and work on guns often I'm sure you'll have no problem mounting an optic. He keeps stating for a gun over 700 they should do this or should of done that yet it's one of the best priced ones? Dude If you want that go spend double the money somewhere else. Gun is very accurate and it's an M&P maby it's just not for you! We all have different opinions on this gun I however think its a great deal for the money. Not trying to attack him or his review but I just disagree and that's ok.

[@MDpolo]

You’re absolutely right it is my opinion and it wasn’t for me. I love Smith & Wesson as a company and actually there is a Smith & Wesson in my carry holster right now. I very much appreciate your comment and that you took the time to watch. Cheers!

[@richki.24]

LoL ... my SD9VE came with that box and I paid $385

[@MDpolo]

Exactly! Thank you very much for watching.

[@richki.24]

@@MDpolo , I really like my SD9VE, it’s been 100% reliable but buying a $700-$800 tool should get a nicer container.

[@MDpolo]

Totally agree. A friend of mine owns an SD9VE, installed an Apex trigger and absolutely loves it.

[@richki.24]

@@MDpolo , I think I have the only SD9VE that the actual APEX trigger doesn't fit, went through 3 Apex triggers on Apex guidance and none fit, reinstalled the original factory trigger with the Apex springs and it is much better ...

[@MDpolo]

I’ve never heard of that happening. Thank you very much for sharing.

[@patmac2765]

Real men do not read instructions anyway

[@silverbackgorilla2112]

Those lousy triggers (even the 2.0) keep me from buying an M&P.

[@MDpolo]

I have not tried the trigger the new Shield Plus flat trigger, but this is the last Smith and Wesson hinged trigger that I purchase.

[@silverbackgorilla2112]

I handled a Shield Plus at my LGS, the trigger was not very good. S&W just cant seem to get it right.

[@adubs3851]

S&W's PC auto offerings haven't really been the same since discontinuing the 952 & 945. As of late, they resemble Lipsey style offerings and a branding gimmick.

[@MDpolo]

It was quite disappointing. Thank you very much for watching.

[@1blackpaper]

i never comment on youtube but i must say stop the complaining jeeeezee is there nothing about the gun you like ?

[@MDpolo]

Yes, the ergonomics are pretty awesome.

[@muddog2159]

You cry too much for this gun the gun made too shoot is a tool shoot the thing

[@Derbyboy13]

6 mins in and I couldn't watch anymore... Before opening your mouth and bad mouthing something.. be smart enough to look in the instruction manual.. page 44-47 tell you everything you need to know on optical mounting

[@MDpolo]

I did look at the manual before I opened my mouth. Mine must’ve been an early model and those instructions were not included in the manual that came with my pistol.

[@Derbyboy13]

@@MDpolo I doubt yours is a early model.. cause I got mine right after they came out.. now could you have gotten the wrong manual.. maybe.. but I can tell you the information is out there..

[@MDpolo]

@@Derbyboy13 I know the information is out there because I’ve seen her in other manuals. What I’m sharing with you is that at the time of filming the video, the instruction manual that I received with my pistol did not have that information.

[@Derbyboy13]

@@MDpolo but you also said you looked all over the place and couldn't find any information.. my gun is older than this video so the information was out there.. you just got the wrong manual

[@backwoodscharlie8483]

You cry too much over nothing

[@MDpolo]

You have your opinion and I have mine. God bless.

[@billseaman5974]

Should have bought a WALTHER PDP.

[@MDpolo]

I have one of those as well. Thanks for watching.

[@waterhead1359]

Bill. why, I just sold my pdp

[@mrgoodkat8567]

Why? So you can shoot a 9mm that feels like a .40? Walther cant figure out how to spring their guns properly. From the p99 to the ppq and now the pdp. Absolutely ridiculous how snappy their guns are. I keep buying them hoping the next gun will be better. But nope.

[@Jacob-t1j]

Walther PDP and PPQ make the 9mm feel like .40 when you shoot. Ugly chunky slide also.