Could You Have Endured Consuelo Vanderbilt's Upbringing?

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@ashlieneevel2708
@ashlieneevel2708 8 жыл бұрын
I most certainly could endure every bit of her pampered upbringing. The better question is could Consuelo have endured mine?
@BreannaMae
@BreannaMae 8 жыл бұрын
+Ashlie Neevel Being born into money isn't all that it's cracked up to be, I can tell you that based on personal experience. Money and having a pampered upbringing does not equal happiness, especially when you have extremely abrasive and controlling parents.
@kokolatte825
@kokolatte825 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, the pampering of being strapped to a steel rod for hours while simultaneously attempting to learn a foreign language. Oh, and wonderful weekend lunches on the yard with your mother reciting everything you learned that week. What a pampered existence! Did you even watch the video?
@AFAskygoddess
@AFAskygoddess 8 жыл бұрын
koko...A lot of us had all that bad but none of the good she experienced. Yes, we could endure that kind of upbringing. And yes, we watched the video.
@AFAskygoddess
@AFAskygoddess 8 жыл бұрын
Lara, you are incorrectly assuming that I haven't been able to create wealth ON MY OWN.I have..
@BreannaMae
@BreannaMae 8 жыл бұрын
Do you know what it's like to be the youngest child born into a wealthy family? It's true that you're extremely spoiled, with literally everything being handed to you on silver platter; I certainly was. I always had nice clothing and toys, and for my 16th birthday my parents bought me a new car (they did the same when I turned 21). However, despite all of that, there's a dark side to coming from a wealthy family that this video describes. There's very little freedom to do what you want. It's to the point where you feel as if you're in a prison. My parents never allowed me to go to sleepovers, parties (even simple birthday parties), or hang with my friends whenever they called. They were controlling and overly-protective. As a teenager, if my parents didn't like the person I was dating, it ended very quickly. My siblings and I were forced to keep absolutely everything that happened in our family a secret. We couldn't speak about anything, even family vacations. Because we lived in a very large house (Victorian mansion, more specifically) that was considered the largest house in town, we were always the center of attention. We couldn't do anything without everyone whispering about it, and my family was very much apart of the so-called "rumor mill". If I had my friends over, they were given instructions on how to handle themselves. Friends were expected to have a certain amount of decorum while in the house due to my parents having expensive decor all over. Some of the rooms were even gated off and only adults could be in them. We always sat down and ate dinner together and were not allowed to speak until my parents were finished talking about their day. So yes I came from a family with privilege, but that doesn't mean it's all happy and fantastic. My parents today are just as controlling as they were when I was growing up.
@AidanTheLoverBoyOhDwyer
@AidanTheLoverBoyOhDwyer 8 жыл бұрын
THE wig on that kid though. Resembles closer to Rasputin than an aristocrat.
@jxsilicon9
@jxsilicon9 7 жыл бұрын
Aidan The Lover Boy O'Dwyer LOL!
@lanavarmatos8096
@lanavarmatos8096 7 жыл бұрын
Aidan The Lover Boy O'Dwyer LMAO
@chiefbogo3282
@chiefbogo3282 7 жыл бұрын
Why ya gotta come after her wig like that 😂😂
@teleopinions1367
@teleopinions1367 7 жыл бұрын
Low budget documentary. Now, if she was Halle Berry, she would've asked for a $5000 human hair wig. So, I've heard.
@tadd8210
@tadd8210 7 жыл бұрын
Aidan The Lover Boy O'Dwyer: Behave..LOL
@f.michaelbremer-cruz2708
@f.michaelbremer-cruz2708 4 жыл бұрын
The thing that I noticed most was this: not a single member of that family seemed remotely contented by their fabulous wealth. All that money and the only thing Mrs. Vanderbilt cared about was that her daughter could become a Duchess. They had everything most people then could have ever wished for, but it was never quite enough, it seems.
@aslater5
@aslater5 2 жыл бұрын
NONE of them. And I’ve read several books about the Vanderbilts. Even Gloria Vanderbilt was miserable and that was the end of the money. Too much money causes problems.
@Sunny25611
@Sunny25611 2 жыл бұрын
And a broke Duke at that.
@nonienandya6585
@nonienandya6585 Жыл бұрын
Today is instagram, tiktoks, all abt social media that can validate you. But in the past, social class /status was. Money can't grant you into certain circle, that's why they obsessed with royalty titles.
@pwp8737
@pwp8737 Жыл бұрын
@@aslater5 well, they solved that problem by pissing away their fortunes. Apparently no one ever told them of perpetual trusts.
@francesvansiclen1444
@francesvansiclen1444 7 жыл бұрын
I would rather be rich and miserable then poor and miserable !
@laiatorrent2863
@laiatorrent2863 7 жыл бұрын
Frances Van Siclen my father always said "riches wont make you happy, but neither will poverty!"
@Jerry-hp5sf
@Jerry-hp5sf 7 жыл бұрын
Cher said "I've been rich and I've been poor...rich is better".
@Spyrika
@Spyrika 7 жыл бұрын
Money can't buy happiness, but it does buy food and shelter so you can pursue said happiness.
@alice0as0strange
@alice0as0strange 7 жыл бұрын
finally a sensible comment
@tieiatalks
@tieiatalks 6 жыл бұрын
Storm Bolt I say “money doesn’t buy happiness but it gives you options!”
@niajones992
@niajones992 5 жыл бұрын
Why y’all put that ragtag wig on that child’s head? 😩
@taotaostrong
@taotaostrong 5 жыл бұрын
Girl! I screamed when I saw it! 😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏾‍♀️
@giot8067
@giot8067 5 жыл бұрын
The couldn’t even brush it or anything That’s a total shake and go wig straight out of the bag from party city 😂😂
@johnw2026
@johnw2026 5 жыл бұрын
I want that wig...i'll put it on the end of a stick and mop my hardwood floors with it! :-D
@lildolce.1425
@lildolce.1425 5 жыл бұрын
Nia Jones 😂
@partypoison219
@partypoison219 5 жыл бұрын
Nia Jones that part
7 жыл бұрын
Rich or not I'm thinking this girl was a prisoner enduring the rich form of child abuse. Poor girl would rather have lived elsewhere I guarantee it
@rhon715
@rhon715 7 жыл бұрын
Chica 411 Exactly. The pic of her with her brothers and her mother, shows very unhappy expressions on the kids faces. So many people commenting here are so negative because they are jealous of the wealth she grew up in. It is sad and pathetic when they will deliberately overlook the abuse because they are angry that her family. over a hundred years ago or so, had a rich lifestyle and use that as a reason to bash her, a CHILD. These commenters need to do some serious self examination and stop acting like martyrs and feeling sorry for themselves. The green monster is driving them.
@CroixdeLorraine
@CroixdeLorraine 7 жыл бұрын
rhon715 I couldn't agree with you more!! I admire wealthy people for being who they are and what they've accomplished in their lives, not to mention the fact that a lot of wealthy people donate to charities, a fact which people conveniently forget when they bash wealthy people out of jealousy!!
@pragmatic7green
@pragmatic7green 6 жыл бұрын
Chica 411 😢😥💔😥😢😥😢
@ruqiaatta4748
@ruqiaatta4748 6 жыл бұрын
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@JixieDyeAuthor
@JixieDyeAuthor 6 жыл бұрын
She would probably rather live somewhere else I agree but it's not always that simple. Sometimes you get so hooked by the security and luxury of wealth that you endure abuse time and time again because you're too afraid of what would happen if you didn't.
@daniellediller5070
@daniellediller5070 5 жыл бұрын
Abuse is abuse I'd rather be poor and in a loving home than rich and treated like an asset
@professorrosenstock5026
@professorrosenstock5026 5 жыл бұрын
Like I say its possible to be happy in a tenant building and miserable in a mansion.
@oksanakoontz8400
@oksanakoontz8400 5 жыл бұрын
danielle diller I was in a home like this but my folks weren’t quite as rich. My mother wanted me to live out her life too. I grew up in a well off neighborhood but was very unhappy
@daniellediller5070
@daniellediller5070 5 жыл бұрын
@@oksanakoontz8400 that's sad I hope your free and happier now and are loved as you deserve to
@daniellediller5070
@daniellediller5070 4 жыл бұрын
@JustJ WhoIsAsking no I don't actually I myself grew up in a poorer family and was abused and the thought that people using money as just another way to control their kids makes me glad we really didn't have any.
@anthyavila9726
@anthyavila9726 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, I'd rather be rich and miserable than the regular kind of poor. Poor and happy is a LOT rarer than you think.
@ladydeath6199
@ladydeath6199 5 жыл бұрын
A prison is a prison no matter how pretty the walls are
@YPeezy
@YPeezy 5 жыл бұрын
Oh shut up
@emmarose4234
@emmarose4234 4 жыл бұрын
Things like this are why the phrase “gilded cage” was invented.
@morningsong8077
@morningsong8077 4 жыл бұрын
So, so true!
@emmaphilo4049
@emmaphilo4049 4 жыл бұрын
And there is the prison of poverty too. It's horrible. Childhood poverty....
@UnchainedMelodie92
@UnchainedMelodie92 4 жыл бұрын
People that say that have obviously never lived true poverty.
@laurenconrad1799
@laurenconrad1799 4 жыл бұрын
Poverty sucks and abuse sucks. Whether you’re fearing a lack of food or the wrath of a brutally oppressive mother, neither is easy to live with. Kind of hard to say that one is necessarily worse than the other.
@emmaphilo4049
@emmaphilo4049 4 жыл бұрын
If only they could be separate like they are in the comparison in your comment. Sometimes poverty AND abuse are combined😱😱😱😱
@angelsparkles3575
@angelsparkles3575 4 жыл бұрын
Emma Philomena Omg you know what she means 🙄 shut up
@SusanDoe-qn7vp
@SusanDoe-qn7vp 29 күн бұрын
That’s true as proven by the low fund documentary. That’s the sort of wif you’ll get with no money
@lindawatkin4411
@lindawatkin4411 7 жыл бұрын
Pampered life?..She had a domineering,abusive mother who forced her into a loveless marriage with a poor duke.
@agustasister5624
@agustasister5624 6 жыл бұрын
Linda Watkin like that doesnt happen RIGHT NOW...AND UNDER MUCH WORSE CONDTIONS...WAKE UP...
@gripitl6878
@gripitl6878 5 жыл бұрын
Ber P. How pleasant you are.
@PockyNinja8
@PockyNinja8 5 жыл бұрын
Agusta Sister that doesn’t take away from the fact that her situation wasn’t great. of course there’s going to be someone who has it worse than you.
@pickingwilddaisies945
@pickingwilddaisies945 5 жыл бұрын
She never had an actual job or had to earn her own money... that is a pampered life.
@jasontoddsthighholsters4168
@jasontoddsthighholsters4168 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine being starving with several other siblings with barely any roof over ur head, while not getting proper education, and regular hygiene.
@missJazzitup99
@missJazzitup99 7 жыл бұрын
I read that she was forced to marry a man she didn't love so her mother could move up in society. On her wedding day they had to use a lot of make up and cover her face with a veil to hide the fact that she had been crying. Consuelo reminds me of Rose, from Titanic.
@kaliah209
@kaliah209 7 жыл бұрын
soundmixer yes good point there
@bighands69
@bighands69 7 жыл бұрын
Believe that and you will believe anything.
@mnething17
@mnething17 7 жыл бұрын
soundmixer It was said that Alva locked her in a room days before her wedding because Consuelo didn’t want to marry the Duke of Marlborough.
@Richardsonprincess00
@Richardsonprincess00 6 жыл бұрын
I felt sorry for Consuelo that she ended up being trapped by her mother, Alva that she only cares for the social climbing of staying in. Alva just reminds me of Ruth (social status climber) from Titanic (movie)
@ktgbw
@ktgbw 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised that James Cameron used the Vanderbilts as inspiration to Ruth and Rose.
@WWZenaDo
@WWZenaDo 10 жыл бұрын
I am astounded that one interviewee disparagingly refers to Consuelo's passing of the entrance papers to both Oxford & Cambridge Universities with "flying colors" as indicating that she was "extremely well-trained". It sounds like Consuelo had a brilliant mind. Pity it was wasted upon becoming a decorative wife for a clueless British aristocrat.
@bdavis8397
@bdavis8397 7 жыл бұрын
WWZenaDo Women were not expected to be be educated. They advanced by marrying well and she did. Her money bought her a title and her brain allowed her to achieve status and power.
@gidzmobug2323
@gidzmobug2323 7 жыл бұрын
B Davis Probably the education would be in music, some languages, and social graces.
@bdavis8397
@bdavis8397 7 жыл бұрын
Her mother wanted her to have a title. The English Gentry were being taxed out of their great estates. She had money and he had the title.
@mohashetty6557
@mohashetty6557 7 жыл бұрын
WWZenaDo So she wasn't decorative, instead she was just a fat paycheck?
@gidzmobug2323
@gidzmobug2323 7 жыл бұрын
B Davis Nowadays it is the death tax. When a noble person dies, the estate is taxed. That is why many of the great houses end up being given to the nation or have opened to the public. Also why many treasures end up in museums.
@user-pv7nf3gu8u
@user-pv7nf3gu8u 6 жыл бұрын
"Well-bred, well-trained..." Are we still talking about a person?
@emmarose4234
@emmarose4234 4 жыл бұрын
0 5, your avatar is so cute!
@taffykins2745
@taffykins2745 4 жыл бұрын
It's a figure of speech. It's a little old fashioned.
@bunnylemon7785
@bunnylemon7785 5 жыл бұрын
can we just talk about the fact that they never called her educated, or said anyone taught her anything. it was always that she was ‘well trained’ like a dog.
@sophiehanna2069
@sophiehanna2069 5 жыл бұрын
And dont forget they called her "well bred"
@cherish78748
@cherish78748 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, even the term "well-bred" like an animal 😩
@maverickbull1909
@maverickbull1909 5 жыл бұрын
Oliver Elijah they did say she well educated...
@corywiedenbeck1562
@corywiedenbeck1562 5 жыл бұрын
Look at how you people think, GET OFF THE INTERNET FOR 1 WEEK AND WATCH YOUR ATTITUDES AND LIFE CHANGE
@TheMomocurry
@TheMomocurry 5 жыл бұрын
They said "well bred" too
@nans969
@nans969 4 жыл бұрын
Alva is equivalent to a modern pageant mom.
@FallnAngel07
@FallnAngel07 5 жыл бұрын
She may have been American royalty but was being treated like an animal. She was wealthy but the physical and emotional pain she must have suffered at Mom's hands is disheartening.
@twaght
@twaght 7 жыл бұрын
Okay but can we talk abt that wig they put on that little girl though
@eaqua56
@eaqua56 5 жыл бұрын
Right? Like they couldn’t find girl who is a brunette lol.
@alysmari3956
@alysmari3956 5 жыл бұрын
It was indeed a hideous mop.
@cristaniancatembung1160
@cristaniancatembung1160 5 жыл бұрын
One that we can expect from the smithsonian.
@mickey7460
@mickey7460 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, living in the New England area, I have visited the Marble House and several others in the gorgeous Newport, RI coast line many times in the past and have brought my own children here. I remember always being quite impressed and marveling at the classic architecture, design and opulent decor of those days. I often wondered what it was actually like to be in a society such as this. My own suspicions are now reconfirmed. During the tours, that I took, of this particular mansion, never, was a negative word spoken of them, however, the narratives implied heavily that there was a more deeper, darker side to the stories told of the Vanderbilt’s than was actually presented. This is a great video, it really puts things in perspective for when I reflect back on my experiences there. The next time I visit Marble house will be with eyes wide open. Thank you so much for this detailed video. I have always admired the style of the Vanderbilts and that era in general. It is a unique and meaningful experience for me to learn so much of their lifestyles. Well done 😊
@fool4singing
@fool4singing 7 жыл бұрын
Alva didn't want a daughter; she wanted a prized show horse. Kind of sad...
@joanhamilton2651
@joanhamilton2651 4 жыл бұрын
What a horrible abusive childhood. Sad she was never able to experience being a child with her own thoughts.
@pennywayne1531
@pennywayne1531 7 жыл бұрын
Alva was a narcissist. Not content to live her own life, but her daughter's as well. Those kids do not look happy.
@susanfalconedaquino3623
@susanfalconedaquino3623 4 жыл бұрын
I've been to The Marble House in Newport, RI many, many times. Just gorgeous.
@TexasLadyS
@TexasLadyS 4 жыл бұрын
Poor Consuelo! She ended up being married off at 19 to the 9th Duke of Marlborough, who didn’t care about anything but her money and most of their marriage was spent living apart. The marriage was finally annulled in 1926 and Consuelo went on to marry a French author and found happiness. I wouldn’t trade my life for hers for any amount of money. Unless Alva got killed off as part of the deal! That woman was an absolute horror!
@fan2jnrc
@fan2jnrc 4 жыл бұрын
Not a French author. A French aviator.
@susanarsoniadou3588
@susanarsoniadou3588 4 жыл бұрын
A DUKE...Many royals are penniless but they have a title. . They think a title is enough..All they have to do is marry a sucker... But these marriages can be unsafe. Look at what happened to Sunny Von Bulow..
@janavarrette9206
@janavarrette9206 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god her second marriage was happy and genuine
@christopherd.7421
@christopherd.7421 9 жыл бұрын
Wheres the rest it was just getting good.
@AuChoco
@AuChoco 7 жыл бұрын
jessica belin Of course she does. Death is inevitable, even for the richest of people.
@SuperJajaco
@SuperJajaco 7 жыл бұрын
Christopher D. ..she became duchess of Marlborough
@dsatt57
@dsatt57 7 жыл бұрын
Jan Jacobsen it was a loveless marriage that she was coerced into and ended in divorce. She did remarry later and was quite happy.
@ilovebeinagirl
@ilovebeinagirl 7 жыл бұрын
In the end one of her descendants becomes a host on CNN....
@dimatadore
@dimatadore 7 жыл бұрын
I think the full episodes are on their paying services *crying
@sailorarwen6101
@sailorarwen6101 6 жыл бұрын
I love the Newport mansions so much. I’ve been a dozen times. It never gets old and is the best day trip.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 8 жыл бұрын
She wrote "The Glitter and the Gold" which contains many really interesting historic tidbits.
@evearcana2392
@evearcana2392 5 жыл бұрын
wholeNwon Like what?
@evearcana2392
@evearcana2392 5 жыл бұрын
Paula Johnson like what? Give examples please, I’m fascinated!
@Alina-rd8ub
@Alina-rd8ub 6 жыл бұрын
money doesn't solve all problems.. mentally unhealthy parents that are rich can still mentally abuse their children. It's just not as obvious because of how glamorous and perfect everything looks on the outside.
@DerWhimsy
@DerWhimsy 6 жыл бұрын
I have read several books pertaining to the lives & characters of Alva & Consuelo. Though not my field, I find this mini-docu accurate, which is the best thing history can attain, Bravo, Smithsonian again!!!
@scottibrown3274
@scottibrown3274 5 жыл бұрын
I remember reading how at her wedding, Consuelo was crying because she didn’t want to marry the Duke of Marlborough, but Alva made her
@laurajimenez7878
@laurajimenez7878 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone in the comments is saying they could’ve endured her upbringing because she was a rich kid. This wasn’t a spoiled kid who got a smart phone by 10 and had access to her parents money to come and go as she pleased like a Gossip Girl episode. It seems she had no freedom to do anything and would never escape that life. I’d rather be poor with some freedom to be whoever I want to be.
@yoursubconscious
@yoursubconscious 4 жыл бұрын
with all do respect, I agree with you. on the other hand, the times were different, after all. just look at the richest kids in wealthy families today.
@laurajimenez7878
@laurajimenez7878 4 жыл бұрын
@@yoursubconscious exactly. This girl doesn’t seem like she had any freedom or happiness
@FanVidder72
@FanVidder72 4 жыл бұрын
I have been to The Breakers, another mansion owned by the Vanderbilts, on a tour in 1990. It has the most amazing view from the balcony of the Atlantic.
@tommykamentz3427
@tommykamentz3427 8 жыл бұрын
The Breakers was also a summer cottage of the Vanderbuilts. It was built in Newport as well as Marble House.
@BeardedBA4Real
@BeardedBA4Real 5 жыл бұрын
I grew up just a few towns away from Newport, practically next to the Colt Mansion in downtown Bristol. Toured the mansions in Newport frequently, even played trumpet in the rotunda of one mansion owned by Salve Regina University. Loving history, degreed in it, this part of my childhood got my love of architecture.
@territ.5357
@territ.5357 4 жыл бұрын
Gosh! I came from a middle class upbringing. My parents were financially very comfortable. I wouldn't change my childhood for nothing. I thought the bain of my existence was washing dishes because my parents built a home with no dishwasher and having to read five books a week or writing book reports in the summer and literally reading the 2 sets of encyclopedias and reading the dictionary. At least my sister and I had a fun and loving childhood. Po consuela.
@ricko7743
@ricko7743 10 ай бұрын
i love how they got Elizabeth McGovern to narrate this. She plays “Cora” in Downtown Abbey, who is a dollar princess on the show
@orbs1062
@orbs1062 4 жыл бұрын
I certainly wouldn't wanna slip down those marble stairs.
@gibsongirl2100
@gibsongirl2100 4 жыл бұрын
That's so funny - every time I see marble floors or staircases (aside from, "yikes - too much!") that's the first thing I think of.
@queensrule4450
@queensrule4450 4 жыл бұрын
Why on earth did these viewers dislike this? It is historical commentary.
@sunflowerheather7019
@sunflowerheather7019 4 жыл бұрын
Hating on rich folks I assume
@eyerishroses
@eyerishroses 8 жыл бұрын
The back rod she had to wear, reminds me of the back brace. I had to wear 24/7 for my back. The scoliosis milwaukee brace.
@ceeeemdeedees7496
@ceeeemdeedees7496 8 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee brace was worse. The girdle was so painful. Horrible contraption. 2years in that thing.
@shadrach6299
@shadrach6299 8 жыл бұрын
CeeEemDee Dees Glad you are out of it.
@maryblooms4599
@maryblooms4599 4 жыл бұрын
What is really astonishing is that if someone like the Vanderbilts saw the ease even a very low middle class American family lived in they would be astonished. They wouldn’t need servants as they could see we have these fancy machines to instantly cook for us, machines that clean our clothes, clothes that were easy to wear, places to buy everything you could possibly want in ONE building, a magic machine to get you there, entertainment in your home etc. They would think this modest family was rich beyond measure. It is merely a persons point of view.
@dlkm0309
@dlkm0309 5 жыл бұрын
The narrator sounds like Cora from Downton Abbey. Edit: Oh wait... It is her. 😅
@marleneg7794
@marleneg7794 5 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth McGovern.
@irishrose90
@irishrose90 5 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment the same thing before I realised 😅
@ambern221
@ambern221 5 жыл бұрын
I knew it! 🤗
@duckydae
@duckydae 5 жыл бұрын
I find it so ironic, considering he Alva fought for women’s rights and suffrage. Yet, forced her daughter to endure all that.
@Superfatcat2525
@Superfatcat2525 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that called a hypocrite?
@CelticSparrows
@CelticSparrows 5 жыл бұрын
I had a very strict, rigid upbringing. I had to refer to my parents as “sir” and “ma’am”. I had to get up at 5:30 seven days a week to take care of farm animals and clean horse stalls. After school, I had to do it again, then again before bed. I had to babysit my younger brother for 8 hours a day during the summers and I had to clean the house every single day. I wanted a phone in my room at age 11 so I had to low crawl under the length of the house (80 ft) to run the phone wires and feed them up through my floor. I was never given an allowance and I was expected to maintain my A average in school. For even minor infractions, I was whipped with a belt until I was 17. I joined the military at age 18 to get a break!
@bbblueblush9860
@bbblueblush9860 5 жыл бұрын
Courage... When hard times come, keep faith with God.
@CelticSparrows
@CelticSparrows 5 жыл бұрын
BRANDY BRENT BB blue blush my life has been about 90% hard times. I pray unceasingly to get through it🙂
@casrifay
@casrifay 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you are living a better and easier life now
@jjh1899
@jjh1899 5 жыл бұрын
Kelly do u still talk to your parents?
@ertfgghhhh
@ertfgghhhh 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry. According to what u have said. Dont see abuse but extreme discipline that u hated. U even had ur own phone. U lived a rural life in which u had to help out in the family business. U got up early. U were disciplined for offenses. Ur parents loved u. They taught u discipline, hard work, and responsibility. Im sure u are the better for it.
@danielmcintyre
@danielmcintyre 5 жыл бұрын
just visited this "cottage" and it really is beautiful
@donato286
@donato286 4 жыл бұрын
A perfect depiction of familial narcissism. You're not allowed to be yourself at all, we fully mould you and control your upbringing, because it has to be a certain way we need it to be in order to achieve our goals. Consuelo was trained in everything except in how to be her own self. If we're going to talk in social classes, the healthiest place to be is middle class. Poverty can be good. I started there and I'm comfortably in the lower middle class zone. Poverty can be toxic too for some people. It can be exceptionally traumatizing and it can create narcissists/sociopaths who look up to the rich. In order to get from poor to rich in a single lifetime, you cannot be an averagely good person. You have to be bad (narcissist) or evil (malignant narcissist and sociopath). In rare cases you could be some kind of a wonder child/person of modest origins who may invent something, but a lot of times you wouldn't care much about becoming filthy rich. Rich circles have always had more toxic (bad and evil) individuals who may have the power, but their hunger for more power is insatiable. They got their money through power fights, intrigue and generally some bad deeds that may have hurt other people (at least financially, mentally) and they continue to do so in their pursuit of even more power. In more sinister cases, the toxic individuals may have hurt people physically as they ascended to power. Consuelo was one of the victims of emotional, mental and physical abuse (yes, strapping your child to a steel cross is physical abuse) of her overambitious (toxically ambitious) parents who wanted more power on top of what they already got with the money they earned. Living in a mansion without much meaningful human contact and warmth compares to solitary confinement in prison. Marble just looks better than the prison walls.
@cynthiacopland8634
@cynthiacopland8634 4 жыл бұрын
True
@ladybrandy91
@ladybrandy91 3 жыл бұрын
Alva and William Vanderbilt were abusers plain and simple . They treated their daughter like an object not a human with feelings
@carterbentonjr399
@carterbentonjr399 4 жыл бұрын
As they said if the U.S. was a monarchy then the Vanderbilts would've been the reigning family and Conselou as princess royal.
@c._.alanna9014
@c._.alanna9014 4 жыл бұрын
3:19 the phrase “exceptionally well bred young woman” is unsettling and it’s even more unsettling that there are a lot of people who still think this way
@zoefang4563
@zoefang4563 5 жыл бұрын
Poor Consuelo. Her upbringing was TORTURE. I doubt y'all could have survived it or survived a mother like Alva. I thought MY father was stern and he was---the sternest man alive. Yet this was nothing compared to Consuelo's.
@emmarose4234
@emmarose4234 4 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about her, Winthrop Rutherfurd, and the Duke of Marlborough in some American Girl book ages ago. I was a wee one at the time. (Young enough to fit into that hideous Halloween store wig. 😅) I wish I could have given Consuelo a big hug. 😢
@shobamacintyre6856
@shobamacintyre6856 7 жыл бұрын
all the kids look sad in the painting
@Celine-dd8nx
@Celine-dd8nx 6 жыл бұрын
That's just how they took photos then. Hiring a photographer to haul the bulky camera apparatus and click 1-2 pictures was considered a whole event in those days. Since it was so formal, no one was encouraged to smile.
@agustasister5624
@agustasister5624 6 жыл бұрын
Shoba Macintyre they also had to sit or stand forever for photos ...they were not snap shots until much later....for a reason.
@nancyguzman8756
@nancyguzman8756 6 жыл бұрын
Smiling wasn’t the custom then.
@sagiliciouslooshish4991
@sagiliciouslooshish4991 6 жыл бұрын
That is what I was saying!
@carmcam1
@carmcam1 5 жыл бұрын
I think nobody could freeze a smile for is long, so neutral face is easier to shoot for both the subject and the photographer for a nice picture at first shot.
@dim9753
@dim9753 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be down for trying that steel rod situation. My poor posture gives me sooooo many back issues.
@chrisw8627
@chrisw8627 5 жыл бұрын
Day M my mom was from England, I went to finishing school as a child, to learn how to be a lady lol anyway, my mom use to tie my arms behind my back in the “crossed” position, I hated it then, but it’s funny I find myself slouching I cross my arms behind my back, or if I’m just standing around I subconsciously cross my arms behind my back lol a lot of people arnt even able to do it, I did it for hours, daily, as a child and find a weird comfort in it now lol although I never forced my daughters to cross their arms behind their back so I could tie them up lol
@stephanieleblond3495
@stephanieleblond3495 5 жыл бұрын
I looked at it and i kind of wanted that torture device for myself it seemed so relieving for back pain
@njhawk89
@njhawk89 6 жыл бұрын
This amazing story is told in the book "Fortune's Children: The Fall of the House of Vanderbilt"
@laurelxoxoxxxooo2604
@laurelxoxoxxxooo2604 8 жыл бұрын
ok? but did it just really end? I don't think this video finished itself.
@jenniferthom4066
@jenniferthom4066 6 жыл бұрын
I can tell you....having the pressure " what will everyone think" ..is inner torture...a B+ in high school was not good enough and in college..B&C grades were classes to be taken over to improve gpa! Going out with friends only one night per weekend...i worked most weekend nights getting done at 9 or 10...but had to be home by midnight. Sunday early church because i worked brunch 10-2...and rest of afternoon family time...church youth group every sunday night 6-8 pm. Dance and piano lessons during the week...school dance team and swim team practices...was on the school newspaper &yearbook commitees...was co-president 2 years of the AFS club...which was hosting foreign exchange student programs...could only put 80 miles per week on my car which included to& from school & work. At home...lawn mowing..evening dishes & laundry- then homework..lots of it!! Was also in chorus...which held extra practices for performances...was not allowed to date formally...a tad bit my senior year..but when?? And not allowed to go to prom!
@cynthiacopland8634
@cynthiacopland8634 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Lord, that’s controlling! Do a happy balance for your own.
@rollingthunder7258
@rollingthunder7258 4 жыл бұрын
NEWPORT MANSIONS ARE GIGANTIC AND BEAUTIFUL AND THE LOCATION IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO BRING UP A CHILD IS JUST BEAUTIFUL.
@tiffanysanchez9184
@tiffanysanchez9184 5 жыл бұрын
She was stunning I would that I were that beautiful.... I just read a book called To Marry And English Lord and it talks about Consuelo and all the American Heiresses who married into the British Aristocracy... it’s a great read I highly recommend it. ❤️
@brjiggacity
@brjiggacity 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely hope to visit this place. I could only imagine living there. Its probably worse then with gossip and rumors, than today with social media. God bless those people.
@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind
@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Very inspiring! ..the wealth, not necessarily the routine.
@JMarieCAlove
@JMarieCAlove 7 жыл бұрын
I got to tour this mansion, the Marble House! It's so beautiful inside and outside! I would love to go back to Newport, R.I. someday!
@SmithsonianChannel
@SmithsonianChannel 4 жыл бұрын
If you're fascinated by the Gilded Age, take an aerial tour of the Biltmore Estate, the Vanderbilt's "country home" and also the largest private residence in America: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6ipiZWVnqiXo5o You can also enjoy this fascinating look at the daily life of an American Aristocrat as Julie Montagu, Viscountess Hinchingbrooke, explores Inveraray Castle, showing us what it takes to keep a great estate running today: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmjTqaGId9tkncU
@jenniferndrio9641
@jenniferndrio9641 5 жыл бұрын
The fast paced classical piece in the beginning is Mendelssohn’s Symphony No. 4, “Italian”
@rayvenwilson
@rayvenwilson 7 жыл бұрын
Though the control on her daughters upbringing is quite despairing, I do admire Consuelo's mother for aspiring a bit more for her daughter. Not just a rich mans wife, but a Duchess. Someone who actually has influence among society,
@azabujuban-hito-dake
@azabujuban-hito-dake 6 жыл бұрын
mrpetersonandsnappyturtle who cares
@lauries383
@lauries383 6 жыл бұрын
Rayven Wilson but at what cost?
@charlieq6083
@charlieq6083 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe_ but the way she went about it was terrible
@Indiegirl007
@Indiegirl007 6 жыл бұрын
This is at a time where a Duchy wasn't as......amazing as it used to be. It was mostly the name you got. I wouldn't trade my entire life for a name.
@mastermonarch
@mastermonarch 5 жыл бұрын
The Vanderbilt's are broke today and their houses are either lost to history or museums like Marble or Biltmore house ..
@kristingallo2158
@kristingallo2158 5 жыл бұрын
Anderson Cooper disagrees
@John-Adams
@John-Adams 5 жыл бұрын
Operation Mockingbird.
@kristingallo2158
@kristingallo2158 5 жыл бұрын
@@John-Adams bingo
@aimeek1236
@aimeek1236 5 жыл бұрын
@@John-Adams Huh?
@aimeek1236
@aimeek1236 5 жыл бұрын
Proof?
@carolberwindscheffler2708
@carolberwindscheffler2708 4 жыл бұрын
My family were friends my grandfather had a home near theirs. He had coal mines called a coal Barron. I was adopted then abandoned when they divorced. Totally brutal people. I had to go through excruciating training as well.
@cynthiacopland8634
@cynthiacopland8634 4 жыл бұрын
Do better when you have your own family. ♥️
@angelieroa6507
@angelieroa6507 5 жыл бұрын
Got to know about Consuelo when I read a book by Daisy Goodwin. The title of the book is The American Heiress/The Duchess.
@lucycat189
@lucycat189 9 жыл бұрын
I have seen a device advertised on tv that reminds me of her back brace. It is a device that is similar and will force the wearer to set up very straight. Supposed to prevent back and neck problems.
@DalV
@DalV 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful documentary, thank you for posting.
@Momma_AL
@Momma_AL 5 жыл бұрын
No thanks. Not worth losing my soul for.
@sharoncromer1910
@sharoncromer1910 4 жыл бұрын
The child's soul wasn't strong enough to overcome her fears and run away or just say no. The mom made sure she started the abuse early. The child was never taught how to be confident and I'm sure she was punished if she did. What an awful life.
@christinafeulner3602
@christinafeulner3602 5 жыл бұрын
She lived to tell, so she endured it. Not every child could say the same. Literally.
@williamsecor7745
@williamsecor7745 5 жыл бұрын
If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as to these women I am blind.
@judyholiday653
@judyholiday653 7 жыл бұрын
Alva paid for her abuse and arrogance when she was humiliated by her husbands affair which led her own divorce.I have seen this entire episode and mother and daughter ended working together in the fight for women's rights years later after Consuelo had been freed from that monster that she had been forced to marry just for the Duchess title..
@InterKELLar
@InterKELLar 5 жыл бұрын
I was so into the history that when the clip ended I thought "Where is the rest of it? I need to know what happened next!!!"
@lorrainemudd5022
@lorrainemudd5022 4 жыл бұрын
She got a divorce had several children.her father gave the 5 million
@poisonedscotch8738
@poisonedscotch8738 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve toured this house many times. It’s insane.
@anoukroelofs9920
@anoukroelofs9920 4 жыл бұрын
Why do people need to have a competition about who had the worst life and which situation is the worst...
@kimiknows
@kimiknows 4 жыл бұрын
Poor rich folk syndrome.
@user-mj8nf2vp7q
@user-mj8nf2vp7q 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Mcgovern has a great narrative voice.
@DeidresStuff
@DeidresStuff 5 жыл бұрын
I'm quiet happy with having been raised as a normal person.
@devinpetersen2387
@devinpetersen2387 5 жыл бұрын
i taught myself such manners growing up. However having to go to a horrible school I was forced to sit up in the most painful chair ever. On top of that being physically assaulted by a teacher.
@jrgnc1
@jrgnc1 4 жыл бұрын
What a horrible mother! Treated her daughter like a commodity to the highest bidder all for an aristocratic title while living vicariously through her.
@jcaylalove8713
@jcaylalove8713 4 жыл бұрын
They all did. It was normal, unfortunately.
@littlemama3957
@littlemama3957 4 жыл бұрын
Yes..that is what they do..it's all about the money
@tovatoriello2803
@tovatoriello2803 4 жыл бұрын
i live close to Newport, and was able to tour Marble house. it is the most magical place i’ve ever been, and i felt just like a princess just walking through the halls.
@thymeandtenderness
@thymeandtenderness 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a movie made about the life stories of Alva and Consuelo. I’m no actress, but I think the opportunity to play a character such as Alva or Consuelo would be quite compelling and exciting.
@paulmakinson1965
@paulmakinson1965 4 жыл бұрын
American exceptionalism and pride stems from certain values that manifest themselves in its constitution. Those values find their inspiration in the ideas of the "siècle des lumières" and those of the French revolution: that all people are born with equal and unalienable rights, in direct opposition to feudalism in which some people have certain privileges by right of birth (divine right). So Americans trying to emulate European feudalism seems like a betrayal of their own values and identity. It happened in the age of the robber barons, it is happening again in this day and age.
@taotaostrong
@taotaostrong 5 жыл бұрын
I’m getting Mommie Dearest vibes from Alva.
@Belle8kins
@Belle8kins 7 жыл бұрын
Really that’s it? 4:30 mins. My curiosity about Consuelo will now make me find a 2 hour documentary about her! 😑
@Unberable
@Unberable 4 жыл бұрын
That Party City wig makes the girl look like she's from The Ring
@TorontoLibertarian
@TorontoLibertarian 8 жыл бұрын
Is this narrated by Lady Grantham?
@marthaalexander4441
@marthaalexander4441 8 жыл бұрын
TorontoLibertarian yes.
@C.h.a.r.l.i.e.T
@C.h.a.r.l.i.e.T 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO 😂😂😂
@rachelgarber1423
@rachelgarber1423 5 жыл бұрын
What a sad life, her husband only married her for her money, and she was totally disrespected by the servants
@tired_of_u_ppl7985
@tired_of_u_ppl7985 4 жыл бұрын
No matter if rich or poor the abuse of children is one of the saddest things that can happen to anyone
@jessiejames7492
@jessiejames7492 9 жыл бұрын
where the continuation to this..just ended abruptly
@MARILYNMONROE77778
@MARILYNMONROE77778 9 жыл бұрын
jessie james look channel titled my most beautiful pictures
@MichelleF1320
@MichelleF1320 4 жыл бұрын
I need that steel posture brace thing!
@Melissa0774
@Melissa0774 7 жыл бұрын
Did Alva Vanderbilt have a prosthetic eye? At the :58 mark, her left eye looks weirdly different and smaller than her right eye.
@logic7374
@logic7374 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. If you look up other photograph of Alva her face is symetrical.
@fool4singing
@fool4singing 7 жыл бұрын
No, it's just the way the light is hitting her eye, and refracting inside of it...
@itsfunnyhowtimeflys3690
@itsfunnyhowtimeflys3690 7 жыл бұрын
Nope, she was just cockeyed...
@lauraheisel4659
@lauraheisel4659 6 жыл бұрын
..maybe it too was made of marble
@lisacollins5868
@lisacollins5868 6 жыл бұрын
Laura Heisel 😁😁😁😉😏
@nicolelv1477
@nicolelv1477 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a part 2? I am intrigued by this lol
@IchigoMali
@IchigoMali 7 жыл бұрын
Love that Cora Crawley is the narrator for an excerpt on an American aristocrat. 😄
@inezneal7258
@inezneal7258 6 жыл бұрын
To me it's all about friends and having a childhood meant for kids.
@AlexandraLynch1
@AlexandraLynch1 10 жыл бұрын
That actress they had portraying the grown Consuelo had, by Victorian standards, quite a clumsy waist, and you could tell by her walk they hadn't bothered to dress her properly down to the skin. I don't know what they trained Consuelo to, measurement-wise, but train her they did. Add that, if you like, to the list of tortures.
@glossygloss472
@glossygloss472 8 жыл бұрын
Are you really that petty that you're going to complain about how she walked? Lmao
@AlexandraLynch1
@AlexandraLynch1 8 жыл бұрын
Corsets in a VIctorian pattern are easily obtainable; they change the way a woman holds herself and are necessary for the costumes to fit properly. They also did not use the narrower petticoats that forced a small step that created a more ladylike walk. If you're going to do a historical piece, do it right.
@greyr.4326
@greyr.4326 7 жыл бұрын
AlexandraLynch1 yes, I agree. while corsets were about to be replaced with a much smaller amount of undergarments in the 1920s, during this period, a young lady would definitely wear one at all times, except for sleeping really. even in the most strenuous activities that a lady would engage herself in from time to time (horseback riding, croquet....) a corset would always be involved, often modified slightly such as in a riding habit.
@clairewenn4696
@clairewenn4696 7 жыл бұрын
I think I'd rather wear that brace than a corset!!
@graup1309
@graup1309 6 жыл бұрын
Claire Wenn Corsets aren't really as bad as people always assume. Most myths about Corsets are actually wrong. A good corset that fits and is laced properly is comfortable and provides a lot of support. Tight-lacing was usually frowned upon as it's really unhealthy. Do you really think Corsets/stays would have been worn as an essential part of every woman's undergarments for 300 years, if they were that uncomfortable?
@zoefang4563
@zoefang4563 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yes been inside the exquisite Marble House on an audio tour once. My favorite mansion after "The Breakers"
@jolien8195
@jolien8195 4 жыл бұрын
I felt the happiest for her when she grew up and lost the wig.
@elle7899
@elle7899 4 жыл бұрын
I lived a few doors down from the marble house for many years. Love Bellevue Ave in Newport
@Jylart
@Jylart 4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the wig budget for this was about five dollars?!
@Jylart
@Jylart 4 жыл бұрын
@Thing That Reads A Lot You're Hilarious!!🤣
@justabigchicken1466
@justabigchicken1466 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jylart The young actress who played young Consuela said her hair was dark; she left a comment higher up.
@Heyimvalarie18
@Heyimvalarie18 7 жыл бұрын
You don't see her slouching though! I'll take one lol.
@lipglossgirlja
@lipglossgirlja 7 жыл бұрын
Count me in
@dearafaela3672
@dearafaela3672 5 жыл бұрын
It's diabolical. I had a disciplined upbringing and I'm not even at her rich level, but I agreed it was hard then, though I can say it shapes me good. What got me thinking is how she's far more trapped in a sense of how she lived a well-off lifestyle but with such sad daily. I can say it makes living poorly a better option if they have a happy family. But then again, I believe it's a matter of perspective and how you view your life to be.
@samuelmccollam9999
@samuelmccollam9999 4 жыл бұрын
She’s trying so hard not to laugh when she strapped up to that thing😂😂😂
@famprima
@famprima 4 жыл бұрын
I live very close by where the family Vanderbilt started out, a small speck of houses in the very North of Friesland, in the Netherlands. It is in imaginable that these very down to earth people resulted in such decadence and moral degradation.
@saunsiaraybroussard9967
@saunsiaraybroussard9967 4 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful young lady
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