Smoke and Chaos - The Terrifying Ordeal of Air Canada's Flight Inferno | Mayday: Air Disaster

[@MaydayAirDisaster]

How did a routine Air Canada flight spiral into a race against deadly smoke, chaos, and an inferno mere seconds after touching down?

[@lcrust5910]

The fire had begun long before touchdown, but the fresh air upon the doors opening fed the flames so causing the inferno.

[@anthonysmith3851]

The tripped circuit breakers were an indication of a serious problem, an electrical short or overload which was likely the cause of the fire. The Captain should not have reset them without first investigating why they tripped as well as the circuits involved. These are marked on the breaker panel. If he decided to reset the breakers anyway, he should have been alert to a problem possibly manifesting itself and he should have pulled the breakers at the first sign of the problem. The cause of this accident was Pilot Error. I happen to be a Captain too.

[@rogergeyer9851]

The training different pilots get at different airlines differs WILDLY. Also, different airlines have different manuals, rules, procedures, etc. It's easy to say what should have been done AFTER the fact. We're NOT all electricians, for example. You BELIEVE it was pilot error. Commenters on KZbin videos say LOTS of things, often in vast ignorance, and we don't know you're a commercial airline captain or even a captain at all, just because you say so.

[@DiandraStarShine]

your question is interesting BECAUSE: how is it that a wannbe 'captain' who made certain he and his co-pilot had the privilege of wearing THEIR oxygen masks during a crisis - how is it that he CHOSE to let passengers *DIE* because he CHOSE to NOT use his *Super-Easy ABILITY* to deploy oxygen masks for his passengers who TRUSTED HIM when he did NOT deserve their trust!

[@jonathanmorrisey5771]

​@@DiandraStarShine He followed company policy vs what was needed at that moment. Armchair quarterbacking is 20/20.

[@marigeobrien]

I know this is only a superficial aspect of the production, but I am always amazed how often the casting department manages to find actors who look VERY MUCH like the people they represent.

[@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617]

It may not be too important compared to what's transpiring but I wouldn't call something like that superficial as for me at least it's easier to connect and put myself there when they put in the extra work to make it as realistic as possible...it's free so I appreciate any knowledge they give us but I appreciate it more when they put in extra work like that

[@jaymes1]

shows how much research and time put into the production, A+

[@dana102083]

​@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617 how would you know if they never showed the real person in the video.cuz they died?

[@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617]

@@dana102083 I know what they look like cuz imma nerd who pays attention and actively looks for things like that...a good example would be the NTSB reports and analysis which I download and read whenever they're posted...finding out what they look like nowadays is nothin..u can find that on the net in 30 seconds..now if u asked me this question 30 yrs ago I could understand that more...also u a cutie

[@jordanhenshaw]

Oh no, a lot of it is real footage from back in the day.

[@JonathanEzor]

I can't be the only watcher who waits to see if they interview survivors or their family members when they introduce the passengers.

[@curtis4948]

I’m the episodes where everyone dies, the investigation is a lot more intense and the drama waaay better, so.. it’s a let down when I see a survivor. it’s very rare the eye witness accounts make up for the inferior drama..

[@christyann2268]

​@@curtis4948..... A LETDOWN when you see a survivor??????

[@ermactuallywsg]

@@curtis4948UHHH… dude… yeah it’s interesting but these are real living people. I think finding out that people survived is a good thing. 💀

[@sharpshooter2398]

Lol me too

[@mimikyu__-]

@@curtis4948I feel relief bc these are real people

[@dylonmartinez7946]

When air traffic control said “four miles until the airport, your clear to land, good luck,” I felt that

[@shadowmoth9158]

A comma after the end of the sentence… I felt that

[@illiniguy58]

"All I know is I did the best I could." That's all anyone can ask.

[@dawnerwin2097]

The pilots are not to blame here, you have enough to deal with to make sure the plane gets to wherever safely, you aren't the mechanics or inspectors, you did an amazing job and it is tragic but you are not to blame at all. You go with the info given to you and can't be expected to do everything. I'm so sorry you have had to deal with this forever, I am sure it's not easy. I wish everyone could have gotten off as well but you can't do everything. ❤

[@micca903]

@@dawnerwin2097 No I completely agree, this seems to be a case of the accident investigation people not being able to put themselves into the shoes of the average person. Most people know nothing and call the experts. I don’t know how you’re able to pinpoint the exact location of an electrical fire in a flying plane, when you have 10 things to juggle already. They knew it started near a toilet, should they have taken the toilet apart in the air with a toothpick? It doesn’t seem a very realistic expectation to me.

[@melissacompton565]

It really breaks my heart when there is loss of life like this. However, I feel so much for the captain and crew that took criticism in such a situation. I think that anyone surviving this is a miracle. Thank you for sharing this story and all the work that goes into these.

[@RobMancusoJr]

These reenactments are incredibly well done.

[@travelwithtony5767]

Agreed..and the crash sequences are well constructed and frighteningly realistic.

[@ronniewoodinsteadofmt2615]

Yes and the actors build their resumes with these videos.

[@mariekatherine5238]

Not the captain’s fault! He did all he could reasonably be expected to do.

[@kellyanderson7624]

@@philb8344 I think the masks deploy automatically. And only when they lose pressure. Besides the Capt was too buy flying the plane

[@Child350]

@@philb8344do you not realize that A. People still wouldn’t have been able to see and get out in time B. In a non-emergency situation you don’t want to do that, in case it’s just something random. And during a developing situation, your focus is getting that plane down, not deploying masks. C. Things were different in the eighty’s. If you didn’t catch it, it was only policy to deploy masks for a rapid/explosive decompression of the cabin D. The fact that they even managed to get that plane onto the ground in time to let anyone off was a miracle

[@LadyRhapsody38]

Also oxygen feeds fire. Dropping the masks could have caused the aircraft to explode sooner, or the fire and smoke to expand faster.

[@suesingleton4927]

AGREE 100%

[@mastersanada]

@philb8344 The fact the whole plane ignited some 90 seconds after landing, if oxygen was being fed into the cabin there's a good chance it would've ignited way sooner and all lives would've been lost. Captain would've 100% been blamed then. I think it was also explained in the video that back then the regulations/training did not have you drop down masks in the event of a fire. He did what he should have to the best of his abilities.

[@cail171]

Pilots ARE people too. They're not robots. They have soooo much on their hands as is when landing or taking off. Add in an emergency like this, even more so.

[@junehalog024]

You'd be surprised how many people expect so much from people like pilots or doctors to do more than what is expected of them.

[@Molarhorizon]

For those wondering, pilots/planes cannot deploy emergency oxygen here because it would add way more fuel for the fire, make it hotter and harder to breathe. Plane being half empty also means there would be half the masks at least just dispensing air even if the passengers use the other half (plane half full of passengers). As for pilots they were far removed and separated, masks were guaranteed to be glued to their faces, they needed to land the plane safely so 2 masks for them were minimal compared to 100 passenger masks.

[@dominaevillae28]

I believe the oxygen deployment for the cockpit is completely separate and lasts far longer. Passenger oxygen is for decompression but pilot oxygen is for that and smoke-they have to be conscious to land the plane.

[@dana102083]

​@@dominaevillae28yes you're right!

[@normbrinkman]

I don't fly . That being said I think it should be mandatory to head to the closest airport at the first hint of smoke . You can't have smoke without an ignition point . Better to land for something small than to wait for it to grow .

[@cursedwithsetience4017]

@@normbrinkmanthis was back in the day where smoking was allowed on planes, and there were a number of small fires in the washroom trashes from still lit cigarettes. It's why they used the fire extinguisher first.

[@cursedwithsetience4017]

@@normbrinkmannowadays it is much more alarming when any hint of smoke is in the air and immediately addressed because there is no other explanation for it.

[@bertvosburg558]

What a burden the pilot has had to carry all these years. To second guess his decisions would be nothing but hurtful for everyone involved. He said with sincerity he did the best that he could so leave it at that. You can see the burden in the pilots eyes when recounting it. Having said that all I can say is how would anyone feel if they were driving anything and made it home but 23 people didn't?

[@cail171]

You are correct!! Pilots carry it with them & they surely do ALL they can to avoid crasing. I can't imagine the pressure of all those lives in my hands.

[@shanejones-lv4yl]

This dude thinks about it every day. God bless that poor man, did the best he could.

[@juliemanarin4127]

He was wonderful getting that plane down intact!! What an amazing skilled pilot...I would fly with him any day!

[@lisanmc4536]

My husband is a pilot, these pilots carry such an immense burden on them, they have the entire flight under their responsibility.

[@dana102083]

He has a heavy burden even without others accusations.. what about the ATC who suggested Cincinnati? I didn't hear the report saying they should.offer the other.location..unless I missed it.

[@noobgamingyt6205]

am i the only person who think the pilots should be awarded for how brave they are and how tougth they are

[@davidbailey6917]

No you are not. The pilots and the flight attendants did the very best they could.

[@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653]

No. All pilots should be that way

[@miketaylor3606]

They were awarded!

[@goosedeathable]

Awarded for acting too slowly at the first report of smoke in the cabin and knowing about popping circuit breakers? Yes, but not a good award. Even when this tragedy occurred, it was well known how quickly fire of any kind would spread through the cabin and incapacitate the occupants. Failure to act quickly and decisively would be the difference between everyone walking away and death.

[@MarkPMus]

No you’re not the only one. I watched another episode of this where the steward shouted, “Brace!!” to the passengers, and all I thought is - The only ones who can’t brace are the pilots, they’re only human and they’ve got to suffer an emergency landing without being able to shield themselves properly. Also regarding the Air Canada incident, I think a measure of how far aviation safety has improved is the case of the Japan Airlines flight that landed and caught fire in January 2024. Everyone was off that plane within 90 seconds. It’s all down to the incredibly brave plots and cabin crew. They all deserve recognition for what they MIGHT have to go through let alone if a disaster does occur.

[@orionwesley]

The actress playing Laura Kiyama's cries after taking the head count on the ground always brings a tear to my eye. Just the one.

[@cloudyrae04]

Same. She got me bawling

[@chucklipsig2595]

Unfortunately, I did not discover Stan Rogers, until several years after this disaster. Forty years after it, I'm one scan away (I hope) from being a two-time cancer survivor. His "Mary Ellen Carter" is the song that gets me through, when I've felt down about it. I like to think that the story that he escaped the plane and went back to try to rescue people -- and the report that there was one person who got out only because he heard someone calling "Follow my voice!" and did so are true.

[@nancylongworth9617]

May God heal you completely

[@cwyvern4861]

I wish I was born earlier so that I could have been able to see him in person, he will always be remembered.

[@imokiguess1757]

The Mary Ellen Carter also helped a survivor of the marine electric sinking keep awake when suffering from hypothermia, the man even told Stan about it and at a concert (Stan’s second to last) Stan said he’d write a song about the marine electric, unfortunately, that song never was written

[@VeracityLH]

I read the comments to see if I could find Stan's last name (without researching the video). And here you are. I'm living with an inoperable neuroendocrine tumor which thankfully is Stage I and stable x 6 years. My husband had a very aggressive kidney cancer that had metastasized before we even knew he had it and it killed him in a year. You just never know. I hope your scan came back free and clear and you live a long healthy life, my friend. 🕯💚

[@koalasez1200]

None of the survivors said they heard his voice (Wikipedia etc.).

[@ann7318]

I think the captain and the crew did everything humanly possible to save their passengers. The NTSB was wrong in criticizing them. God bless the captain, crew and those who did live.

[@juliemanarin4127]

Absolutely!!

[@brigidtheirish]

You know that's the NTSB's *job,* right? They have to take apart all the mistakes and figure out how to make sure it doesn't happen again.

[@marinazagrai1623]

ann…the authorities always blame the pilot and co whether alive or dead (better when they are dead since they cannot defend their reputation and actions) but if the pilots are actually guilty then they deserve the blame.

[@BeachNanny]

@@marinazagrai1623Just watched a video where the FAA was blamed for a crash.Never see that before!

[@marinazagrai1623]

@@BeachNanny Wow, I guess it happens it happens once in a while! Shocking!

[@Zkhan2475]

This incident was the reason that smoking was banned in the lavatory and also was the requirement of exit row lighting 😢

[@tommcglone2867]

The emergency floor lighting was because of an even more horrific disaster in my home city. British Airtours 28M.

[@mauriciocriales4752]

I promised all of You, that as an US FAA Licensed , Aircraft Maintenance technician, that I will continue, everyday., every flight to make sure I will do my part to ensure that the Aircraft I have Maintained for over 20 Years and more, that I will check and Inspect and service those aircraft for make sure that there are safe to flight., that I will react to fix and or report any, discrepancies with those aircraft., It does not matter to caused a delay, thats not important, but what its important it to save human lives, no matter the costs, no mather how much time it takes, I love Aircraft, and they have to work 100% ., ALL THE TIME., EVERY DAY, EVERY MINUTE,. I Promised that to you all.

[@tedwalford7615]

@@mauriciocriales4752 ❤️

[@LisaGarrison-s4d]

The crew did the best they could do. They got it landed and many survived with the crash’s that kills everyone so I don’t blame the crew

[@jimsperlakis5634]

The ntsb fails to relay the bulkhead repairs and the proximity to the toilet wiring. Its just so obvious that the plane wasn't properly repaired and was put back into service when it should have gone back to the factory.

[@LEDPENNY]

I remember this! I was just finishing 5th grade when this came on the news. I always had assumed the fire had started in the lavatory from someone tossing a lit cigarette. Interesting 40 years later to learn of the real culprit,

[@dana102083]

..as in not knowing what started it?😂

[@williamburklow8702]

Captain, you are a hero. Do not worry about what bureaucrats think.

[@natalyametzger-key5753]

You can see the pain that that captain and copilot feel even to this day, knowing that they did all that they could but they still couldn’t do enough to save everyone and I really do hope that as the years go on it becomes easier and easier for them to Deal with these feelings and thoughts. Because they are the true heroes, and they deserve to be able to rest easy, knowing that they did everything that they were able to do.

[@craigford4641]

The Best Mayday videos are the one,s where the Captains and Crew of the planes are being interveiwed ! ❤

[@lucysnowe31]

God bless those pilots and the entire crew. They are heroes.

[@Sasheenka]

He certainly didn’t bless the dead peeps

[@johncmeyer5832]

That sense of relief when you know people survived.

[@MultiClittle]

One thing this show does very well is match young actors/actresses that look very similar to the person they're representing. I am very impressed by that.

[@fk319fk]

I do not think it would have mattered where the airplane landed. The clock to the start of the fire began when there was air to burn, not when things were hot.

[@jimsperlakis5634]

Correct. Any smoke is bad smoke. Any minute delay, not thinking it's bad but You put on Your air mask, was a minute less to Survive.

[@chriscothran8744]

Sounds to me that the NTSB is trying to cover their ass for having not found the source of the fire by pointing the finger at the crew. Cowards. That crew performed outstandingly and EVERYONE knows that, they deserve medals. Literally performing universal safety measures before their adoption.

[@angelagendreau3586]

Things melt. Any fireman can tell you that. That fire was likely over 1000 degrees if it burnt through the metal. I don't think it's some government conspiracy. Millions of people fly every day. The fire burned at very high temperature so it wasn't surprising they couldn't find anything. It's why criminals burn evidence.

[@Britt20654]

This comment makes no sense. The NTSB has no ass to cover. All it does is make recommendations to the FAA, ICAO, Congress, and other parties. It has NO AUTHORITY to REGULATE in the slightest degree. That is for the FAA, ICAO, and Congress. The reason why they were criticized was delaying the emergency descent. The NTSB can not do anything to the pilots so the statement is merely a recommendation for further pilot training. An NTSB report, other than for improving safety, has no other purpose. It cannot be admitted into Court by statute law. So please stop spreading misinformation when you have zero knowledge at all.

[@philipnasadowski1060]

@@Britt20654 You think the NTSB has no agendas or bias? You're cute.

[@Britt20654]

@@philipnasadowski1060 not saying that but the NTSB has no incentive to frame pilots. It can’t even take action against the pilots or enable people to take actions against the pilots. There is an absolute complete statutory bar, with no exceptions, for it being used in disciplinary, court, or any other sort of official action. The NTSB also doesn’t make policy and it regularly goes after the FAA and Congress for failing to regulate in its reports. So it has no ass to cover because it makes no decisions.

[@rogergeyer9851]

@@philipnasadowski1060 : And of course, you having a random uninformed optnion makes you MUCH more of an expert than the NTSB investigators. /s Your ilk is the type convinced you know more about a flat earth, vaccines, etc. than all the experts. Wake up. You're ignorant.

[@markdanz7039]

Poor girl, you can tell she really cared about her passengers 😢

[@zainabtariqzainabtariq]

I don’t care what NTSB says but these people are literal heroes with nerves of steel. Kinda unfair to blame them a bit too because after all they’re humans and one’s judgement can be flawed in times of dire stress. These pilots however did the best they could’ve done to land the plane.

[@NATDENNEY]

The crew are true canadian heroes God bless them and the pilots did everything right

[@emeraldqueen1994]

I hope NONE of the survivors blame themselves for the tragic deaths of the victims in this case…

[@buddyrebel_Garcia]

They should blame themselves!! Why did they live and the other ones didn’t? 😊

[@Custo-e2g]

Lol skill issues

[@davidbailey6917]

They learned to get through it. They all tried to get themselves and each other out of the situation. There was nothing more than they could have done.

[@5GreenAcres]

The male flight attendant who reported everything was under control?? When the pilots made a decision to land the plane? I believe interfered with prescious time.

[@davidbailey6917]

@@5GreenAcres Why does everybody look to and be quick to blame when there is no one to blame? How could they know? The smoke appeared to be dying down to them.

[@TraceUK]

That poor Captain. He was a hero but never truly felt like one 💔

[@MarkPMus]

I saw this and looked up Stan Rogers on Apple Music. His stuff is still there. Hearing his voice, knowing he went through that disaster, it’s really haunting. Also rather weird to think that in the last hundred years or so, technology has existed that keeps alive the dead - photos, videos, tape etc… Hopefully the revenue from Stan’s recordings is still benefiting his family and loved ones even now.

[@Species710]

When people say "God protected me" or "I prayed and God answered" why do they think they rate but the rest of us don't? How do they justify that?

[@oilersridersbluejays]

I think you’re reaching too hard for the atheism stick. God has a plan. Who are we to know what that is? Terrible tragedy regardless.

[@nilmerg]

​​​@@oilersridersbluejays "god has a plan" is one of the most senseless, tactless things to say in the wake of deaths & disasters that didn't have to happen. if people get murdered, that's all just god's plan? be real. i hope you wouldn't say the same if tragedy strikes your loved ones nor the loved ones of those you know.

[@kayanneyoung9788]

@@oilersridersbluejays The same god that saved a Bible but let 23 people die? Yeah no, even if that god did exist, I would not worship it, for what should be obvious reasons.

[@FondelMikeRotch]

They are just a bunch of cultists, common sense doesn’t play there. Like afterlife, “you’re goona see when you die” no yer dead you wont see anything. Just like Magas. Cant talk reality to them.

[@SavingSoulsMinistries]

dude i just watched the part where the lady said she was praying to God for a safe landing and the first thing that popped up in my mind was "I Bet there is a armchair heathen out there seething at that statement" but if you were in the same position you'd be praying to something!

[@tracyterwilliger5629]

One of the best air disasters reinacted. I’m cried. The pilot did his best job.

[@zarahofshiloh7537]

So unfair for the Captain. He didn't start the fire and did the best he could just to get the plane down that was on fire and with the tail not working the way it was suppose to. He should of gotten a reward for saving lives and not have a finger pointed at him. Those who saw to it to blame him, are just evil.

[@cassandratq9301]

Later, they initially tried to blame Sully for losing the GD plane after saving all the passengers by landing in the Hudson!! Fortunately, Sully pushed back. What creeps those regulators were.

[@Whocares66672]

​@cassandratq9301 no they didn't. The movie added drama. The ntsb never blamed sully

[@warpdriveby]

It always brings me back to my childhood when I hear the distinct accent of Quebecois. I grew up north of Boston and spent many vacations in and around Montreal. I've since moved away but it's one of those things that for me, anchor most of my favorite memories.

[@inesflores4948]

Thank God now you are not allowed to smoke.

[@susanbengston3208]

An occasional passenger will still try to sneak a puff or 2 in the lavatory.

[@ingredpaulson4530]

@@susanbengston3208 That is precisely why ashtrays are STILL mandatory equipment on all airplanes. Otherwise, smokers would likely throw them in the trash filled with flammable material.

[@grapeshot]

I actually witnessed this disaster when I was like 9 years old. And that was some good acting by whoever that woman was that played one of the airline stewardess.

[@BlueIceIceman]

I want to see the NTSB personnel to try get a jet down and stop and shutdown and remove all passengers in the amount of time that these pilot had and also put them as passenger in a smoke filled plane with no or or anything like that and give then a damp cloth to breath through and see how fast they can get off before the flash-over take the plane out then we would see a different answer to the problem and place blame where it need be place.....and one thing if the plane had a history of malfunctions then why wasn’t the mechanics also part of the blame

[@JimRobinEric]

I don't care what anyone says. The second you smell smoke or any type of problem a MAYDAY needs to be sent out and head to the nearest runway period!

[@twilightnawi1194]

Real life tends to be more complicated than that. If planes landed anytime there was any problem, the entire system would collapse. These are incredibly complex machines with thousands of tiny parts that all work together. The reason the air travel industry is so safe is the focus on redundancies, so a major part can fail and the plane can still land safely. Also remember that, in this period, smoking was allowed on airplanes; as they mentioned in the episode above, bin fires were common and containable. As soon as he was sure that there was a real fire and not just a bin fire.

[@cassandratq9301]

Smoke isn't "any problem".

[@journeyon1983]

Such a sad story for the 23 passengers that did not survive on this flight.

[@kernowradio]

Pilots and crew did a sterling job considering the circumstances!!

[@ImionsaeXwb77]

The way the flight attendants handle the severity along with the pilots was just WOW... no big deal....

[@dana102083]

Did we watch the same video?

[@lcrust5910]

The word at the time was that Stan Rogers had gotten off the plane safely, but then went back in to help others get off.

[@chucklipsig2595]

Which on the one hand could be urban myth. On the other hand, there's a report -- official, I think -- where one passenger said he only got out, because he heard someone saying, "Follow my voice!" and did so.

[@metoo7557]

Even before the video said so, i figured opening the escape doors would let oxygen surge into the plane, and that would instantly feed any flame around, meaning they had a limited amount of time once the doors opened to get everyone off. Even in they landed sooner, that was probably still going to happen in pretty much the same amount of time. Hard to say tho if the extra few minutes without smoke build up would have changed much int terms of being able to see the exits, or the further incapacitation of the passengers.

[@enngee2339]

The NTSB seems really odd in this one. They wanted (1) the pilots (in a smoky cockpit) to descend the plane faster even though it had no electronics; and (2) the flight attendants to pull apart the washroom to find the source of the fire.

[@clairethomson3455]

I've been an avid watcher of this documentary program for over 15 years, and this episode always hurts. Stan Rodgers may have been his generation's Gordon Lightfoot, for one, he's still covered by up-and--coming folk artists here in Canada, but the captain's final statement in this episode "Its just a shame we didn't get everybody off... It still bothers me" while his chin and lip quiver. The final comments of the documentary from the first officer give the context of the FO and the captain's trauma and pain.

[@fionabryant7923]

Bless all that cabin crew who helped so many...

[@moragwilliamson1736]

RIP everyone who didn't make it. And once you hear Stan Rogers' voice you never forget it.

[@Thebakedbaker413]

Listening to the crew speak is so sensible i was really stupidly thinking "why no oxygen masks for the passenger" but then after hearing the reasoning that's why I don't fly planes

[@juliemanarin4127]

I still fly...it is still the safest way to travel

[@Thebakedbaker413]

@@juliemanarin4127 i should have specified "thats why im not a pilot" i dont mind flying itself its just you have to be on top your game to be a pilot and i dont have that level of confidence.

[@carterschmidt2116]

The oxygen supplied to the masks is highly flammable

[@cassandratq9301]

Smoke hoods could have helped. But they still don't stock them because of the fear they would cost time in an evacuation.

[@gregmanko4035]

One of my favourite folk music artists - Stan Rodgers - died on that aircraft.

[@cameronscates4332]

This one has hit me more then the other ones.

[@gerardoarevalos2096]

Watched one video as I went down a rabbit hole and now I been hooked 😅 8 of them so far! Very interesting and amazing the amount of check and balances and human and computer errors seem to be 50/50

[@deezkhajiit184]

I know this incident wasn't caused by cigarettes but it's crazy that they ever allowed smoking on flights. Thankfully that's not allowed anymore.

[@Soffity]

Fire has to be one of the most awful things that can happen on an aeroplane. Most of them crash and everyone dies. Well done to the pilots and flight attendants, not easy to stay calm and focused when you can hardly breathe,

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

Oh no, I really had hope that everyone would have made it this time. How horrific. It's mind-boggling to me that people were allowed to smoke in a big, sealed metal tube flying thousands of feel in the air at hundreds of miles per hour. Like, you couldn't wait for your next cigarette until you were on the ground?!

[@kyleyuen245]

23:24 The Copilot saved the captains life by a hair

[@cassandrabranch1729]

"What if's" and casting blame are NOT what mishap investigations are for. Shame on the NTSB lead investigator. Apparently the "explosion" and widespread fire was due to air brought into the cabin when the door was opened. That fire would have occurred seconds after landing no matter where the airplane landed, when the descent began, or any other "if only..." If the NTSB couldn't find the origin of the electrical failure, how could they expect the crew to have done any better? Deep sympathies to those who didn't make it out.

[@Lasvegasnowman1]

I love how they find the actors to play the show and I am not talking about the real people interviews that actually went through it.

[@inesflores4948]

That plane had a lots of issues.

[@shalynlowe3143]

The NTSB is more at fault than the crew! That plane shouldn’t have been used with so many prior issues. That’s what caused this issue, not the crew. They deserve medals for their bravery and getting as many people as they could to safety!

[@yohiyoyo1]

That's not the NTSBs fault then, that's the airlines

[@Sean-C]

How is this NTSB's fault? Air regulation is thru the FAA. NTSB has no regulator power. Any corrective issues would have to come from the FAA. Any grounding of planes is also thru the FAA.

[@TheModelGuy]

If the repairs are done properly, there is no reason the plane can’t go back into service. Theres a test flight after major repairs to check for any issues. Just because you replace the starter in your car it doesn’t mean your car isn’t safe to drive now

[@MrYesReally]

The amount of regulations and standards that are so normal today that spawned from this accident are incredible 🙏 mad hats off to crew for handling how they did in those times

[@Sjb-on5xt]

Chances are that even if they landed the aircraft 4 minutes earlier at the other airport, the same situation would arise, when opening the doors to the aircraft. Fresh air would get in to cause a flashback. They also had problems with the tail controls to get the aircraft down, would've been too high to land. The pilots are heroes.

[@gadgetsglamour269]

The cabin crew was very smart n ahead of its time.. The pilots did best they can do.Hats off to all crew of flight. And Deepest sympathy n condolences to the the family whose loved ones did not make it..🙏🙏

[@julianafrancis5699]

As far as i see, the crew did their best under the circumstances. Captain and crew God be with you.

[@indigobunting2431]

Smoking always struck me as unsafe and annoying on planes.

[@hood_TheJoker]

smoke and coughing, it's like being involved in an actual horror movie 30,000 ft in the air... no bueno

[@lovatojonasfan1]

I see a strong resemblance to the Miracle on the Hudson in the respect that the captain was blamed even though he did all he could do.

[@cassandratq9301]

Yes. That's when I learned the airline always tries to blame the Captain/crew so that no blame falls on maintenence or security or other airline policies.

[@Randy-mw1es]

The pilot was to high to make the closer run way.He also landed the plane with out most of his instruments.

[@liebenfiels]

The fact that seized flush motor experiment showed that it reached 428 C temp and produced heavy smoke was already worrying. There is also difference making that experiment e.g. from new clean fresh parts, compared to maybe parts that accumulated dust or grease over years- that could be reason being ignited, or even some bigger rubbish accumulated there in compartment. Not a good motor design for sure and fact there was no smoke sensors. They clearly eliminated cigarette as reason

[@str2889]

Every rule in aviation was written with blood

[@lprophit]

they were the calmest reactions to probably the worst situation to happen while flying

[@gadgetsglamour269]

Your episodes are truly wonderful the actors are very nice. Thank you. COZ YOUR episodes helped me to become one of the best QUALITY CONTROL PERSONAL OF MY INDUSTRY LEARNING FROM INVESTIGATION OF NTSB. THANK YOU...

[@SadisticSenpai61]

Given the flashover happened 90 seconds after they opened the doors, I don't know that the extra 5 minutes would have made that much of a difference. It's possible, but it's far from certain. After all, this was before a lot of safety measures and training was put in place to get passengers off the plane within 90 seconds. And I think this might have been the case that established the 90 seconds evacuation standard. It was either this one or the one in the UK. I can't remember. Either way, I don't think the captain should bear the blame, no matter how small for what happened.

[@cassandratq9301]

I think it was the U.K. one, but not sure which came first.

[@JONESSTI01]

I think the NTSB will always try and stick someone with something. But that was a bad call, as sullenberger said with the Hudson ditching "you forget to account for the human factor" And I believe indeed they did again this time and captain Cameron did a phenomenal job! RIP donald.

[@annetterose8948]

This crew did everything they could. Placing blame on the captain is messed up. That plane was the problem!

[@MissingFries1]

Air Disasters never fail to entertain.

[@Gimblenut9]

Mayday should add this segment with the Ozark accident in South Dakota. The wings of this plane was installed on the Ozark fuselage which northwest airlines ended up with. It's the only dc9 nwa had in its fleet that had an N registration which ended with a Z

[@hrhtheprinceandre]

I think is absolutely wrong for people to fault the Capitan Cameron that he did everything that he could to save as many people as he could. Some things you have to blame on the companies and others in charge. A small silver lining is the adoption and implementation of rules suggested by the NTSB. I can glad they sent an amended report but the fact that they STILL blamed the pilot is crap.

[@SavingSoulsMinistries]

to blame the captains is insanity.

[@laurelwoodward2700]

This was definitely not the fault of the crew. When the NTSB can not find the culprit for an accident, they cover their butts by blaming the crew. This was not their fault. They did their best.

[@robertbandusky9565]

Never reset non- essential circuit breakers. If essential, then reset only one time👨🏻‍✈️

[@cathycooper5606]

The captain and his team were incredible Disgusted with the first outcome They tried there best how dare they get the blame !!!! 😡😡😡

[@juliemanarin4127]

I will tell you all a personal story about a Bible. I had a plow truck we used to plow our church and on the front seat was a Bible. The truck was stolen from the church parking lot where I left it. The police found the truck...minus the new plow from it burned completely in the woods where it was set on fire by the thieves. It was burned to a shell...they barely made out the rear license plate so they knew who it belonged to. Tires were completely gone and everything was black to a crisp...paint and all. The seats were burned to the springs...but the Bible on that seat was INTACT. It was singed on the outside but it was the only thing left unburned!

[@alarahillton1343]

I witness about it. I meet believers and non. The other day I met a young woman who was one of those who denies it, saying it was written by men... I tried to get her, and stated it’s the inspired word of God. She was grieving, an old death, and a recent death of siblings. I could see that she suffered so. But she also said, I’m a scientist as she roller bladed around the area. I tried my best. I had just been up at my church. I know of many miracles, now your story, too. God is amazing.

[@TheModelGuy]

Save a plane load of people or keep a bible from burning. Guess your God picks his battles.

[@LectronCircuits]

Aircraft fires can happen to anybody at any time. Audience wishes hapless victims & grieving survivors all the best. Cheers!

[@elizabethbarton3047]

I remember flying before they had smoke detectors in the bathroom only because no one could smoke inside the bathroom anymore. I had no idea this was the reason why they were implemented. I quit flying for years because the airline industry banned smoking on all flights, then smoking was banned inside airports, I believe in 1995.

[@IsrarKhan-zi9cc]

DC-9 probably is one of the most cursed plane ever.

[@lu4414]

Anyone knows why opening doors in the air are not considered? Would be a way to clear the smoke fast.

[@habeeburrahaman257]

Incredibly unfair on throwing the blame on the pilots who performed a miracle to land this plane with basic instruments and a cockpit filled with smoke. I would like to put the investigators in that situation and see them come to a solution within the time frame they expected the pilots to come through. They investigated the case for a whole year and yet couldn't come to a conclusive answer of what started the fire, no definitive answers were given. Rather than focusing on a problematic airplane and more inherent problems they just threw the pilots under the bus.

[@killerninjaz13]

The trench affect one of the most deadly and invisible affects a low oxygen fire can cause For 30 minutes the cabin was super heated once a sufficient amount of oxygen was introduced the fire exploded through the cabin

[@IamTaliaIsrael]

😢🤧 OMG!!😢 Lord have mercy 🤧😢 I'm so sorry for the one's that didn't make it off the plane 😢🤧 I'm glad some made 😢 this had to be a horrible nightmare 😢

[@darlenegibson3017]

Great PILOTS

[@evan3635]

It's pretty insulting that the NTSB points the finger at the crew, when they themselves couldn't figure out the source of the fire. Also, it's very clear that the first officer attempted to find the source, but the washroom door handle was too hot to risk opening. The crew did an admirable job landing the plane safely with the information and resources they had. They saved dozens of lives and the lives lost are not on their hands.

[@duskthephantom7690]

I dont mean to shame the religious lady so i hope it doesnt come across like that, but it really bugs me when people say "god looked out for me" or when a city catchs fire, people say "look how everything burned but the church! God is looking out!" Because it feels like hes only looking out for a few. If he was looking out for her, why wasnt he looking out for the 23 who didnt make it? Im happy that so many did survive, and i hope the few who didnt rest in peace, but idk thats something thats always bugged me in some way.

[@Brian-kl1zu]

What about the other twenty-three who perished? As Paul Simon (crudely) wrote; "...the information's not available to the mortal man." It's beyond our finite understanding. However; that's not my main point. As a Christian; I agree--It's cloying, and very insensitive to say "God saved/protected/etc." me. (When others around you died.) Live your life with a renewed sense of purpose; say a deep prayer of thanks, and keep quiet.

[@davidulrichldj6140]

48:30 oh boy. It’s called LUCK. Either that or God was so busy protecting her, he forgot about the other 23 who were burning alive

[@Olivia_C_]

Listen I get you have your own beliefs but don’t go knocking someone down for believing in something that has helped them. Is it sad that 23 people didn’t make it, absolutely yes. But God always has a reason for something and it doesn’t mean he loves those 23 people any less or has forgotten about them. Just know the same love he has for those people who have survived and who died, Jesus loves you too.

[@jessh5310]

One thing that I will always find puzzling. Airport fire engines have telescopic hoses so they can spray downhill. SO why not have a nozzle which can puncture the aircraft skin and spray into the body of the craft.

[@Debbie-henri]

@@jessh5310 Clever. Suggest that to them.

[@FlyingExplorer2022]

Imagine you are seated next to a sitter in the cabin here 😂

[@DnaturalBreaux]

That ship WAS NOT supposed to be in the air anymore. Too many issues to be considered air worthy!! People died because those in position to ground this vessel permanently, missed it!!!