Smoking Engine!! Delta Air Lines Boeing 747-400 at Nagoya

[@jackwortman4693]

I was the Captain on the inbound flight.The stator actuator on the number three engine had failed on short final, just prior to landing. We reduced thrust on that engine and made a normal landing. The mechanics thought they had repaired the actuator, but that proved not to be the case. When the outbound crew attempted to start the engine, it resulted in a hot start. They aborted the start and returned to the gate. The engine was repaired and the flight departed for Manila.

[@shawnheinz7075]

+Jack Wortman What is a stator actuator

[@jayvee406]

+Jack Wortman -- Hi Capt. Wortman -- I almost thought you were kidding, until I checked your channel. I have a friend who used to captain a 747 until the mid 2000s; the stories he's got are definitely worth a good night, or two, of scotch on the rocks.

[@j_356_5]

variable stator vane actuator

[@j_356_5]

yeah thats what i said.

[@mytmousemalibu]

Whoops, yea as soon as I read of the stator actuator failure and this is the next start, yup, hot start indeed! The engine compressor blade stators are variable angle and a very specific angle(s) is needed for starting. There should NEVER be glowing debris dumping out of the ass end like that. They cook the snot out of something in there like the 1st stage nozzle or blades. Maybe combustor liner. Hope they replaced it and if not borescoped the hot section REALLY well.

[@queesposidesquena]

Great video! It must be quite unusual to see a 747 failing to start an engine so closely

[@RDU8468]

On engine start up the smoke started (no unsual for cold startup), then it was followed by small sparks (look closely) coming out of the bypass cowling. This plane's birth was 8/13/1999, and it looked and behaved like a teenager too.

[@longshot7601]

If I were on that plane I wouldn't be as concerned about the smoke as much as the glowing, chunky bits coming out of the aft end of the engine on the start-up attempt.

[@Aviatorspot]

Great footage! The engine is smoking and the body is dirty also! Need a good scrub-up!

[@private1001]

That's were my screwdriver is.....Found it!!!

[@Einhander49]

I bet those mechanics get paid more than the pilots, lol. Mechanics for MVP, lol.

[@oneofthemdeals]

does Delta have maintenance crew in Nagoya or did they borrow from either JAL or ANA? let's not forget this plane is an ex-NW 744 delivered in the 90's. DE inherited this bird after the acquisition of NW

[@KingHarlaus1]

747-8 is my favourite but I still like 747-400 And what's with the negative votes it's just a opinion. And the 2 top crashes I know it's pilot error but I never said it was the aircraft's fault. I just prefer other planes over the 747.

[@epjac2210]

So, what was going on with the engine? Did that plane takeoff after they fixed it?

[@blampa]

Lots of misinformation here. First off, the PW4056 engine has full FADEC (Full authority digital engine control) and therefore does not have a manual fuel input. Secondly, as the 747 APU often starts two engines at once, the difference in rotational speed of both three and four shows that the problem is friction within the engine preventing it from spooling up. Then the sparks at circa 1:20 show that it is indeed a frictional fault, and most likely from the HPC (high pressure compressor), as these engines have a history of problems with the synchronizing ring and the leveling arm pins on the VSV (variable stator vanes). At around 2:00 you can see they try to start it again, and the much slower N1 speed accompanied with smoke means the initial start attempt has allowed a lot of material from the HPC to go downstream to other HPC discs, the annular combustor nozzles, the HPT and the LPT. In other words, blade tips rubbed against either the cause or the stators and the resultant friction blasted fragments through the gas path and destroyed the engine.

[@michaelhollister7932]

You get a lot of misinformation since MOST have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to aviation. Armchair comments from most with little or no actual experience. Nothing wrong with making comments but if you really have no expertise in a particular area, maybe you should just saying nothing. "blampa" is however, correct.

[@U20101954]

so many bs. that engine just got a broken starter.

[@johnsarmiento1797]

so in this case the busted engine will be replaced for the plane to fly again?

[@michaelhollister7932]

John Sarmiento Yes. The engine will be (has been) repaired and the aircraft is in operation again. Generally speaking and depending on the damage, an engine will either be repaired on the aircraft, removed temporarily from the engine strut and repaired, or replaced (the most expensive option). But you don't "throw the baby out with the bath-water" just because one of four engines needs some work. :)

[@flyaround5953]

Michael Hollister Well that's a lot of unhappy passengers on that plane BUT I rather be unhappy than dead.

[@stevemc01]

"Delta Airlines" "Only our planes leave broken."

[@danielkandisnooker7990]

Better safe than sorry, but damn, as a passenger, you dont really wanna see the engine being opened for repair on sight!

[@Engineer9736]

A 747 can fly on a single engine, so i wouldn't worry too much. But still it's better to see 4 properly functioning engines indeed :D

[@panicprone11]

How much horsepower do those little trucks have? Its amazing that they could push and pull those monsters!

[@mytmousemalibu]

Many have pretty small 4 and 6 cyl diesels. They don't need a lot, they have a ton of gear reduction and thus have low, low speeds but crazy amounts of torque.

[@tawhneebaby]

They are like tug boats on land, i agree it's really cool!!!

[@mrdojob]

It don't look like a broken fuel line at all. You can see sparks hitting the floor. In other words molten metal.

[@pxthfinder6201]

It's a bit dirty, too. Any chance it'll get cleaned?

[@AviationNut]

This old girl said she is not going anywhere until someone gives her a wash or a fresh coat of paint.

[@xtdiscovery]

Do you know why engine number 3 smoking ???

[@The88Mason]

What happened after this?

[@Associated25]

@stup33d What's wrong with delta??

[@Flyspotter19]

What happened to the engine!

[@martintheiss7666]

wow jack that is hairy hearing it from you. good thing you reported it. it looks nasty enough looking at the video. I would be yelling at the gate staff to have a mechanic try to get it back.

[@fubar2324]

Engines smoke quite often on start-up, however the sparks are a different story.

[@ianpinker5755]

gr8 upload. thanks. i enjoyed watching it.

[@xtdiscovery]

You mean old engine ?

[@monte61]

BA is hanging on the their 747s longer as Jet fuel prices a re low . ALL airlines should have kept more 757s! They are regretting that now. BOEING missed the mark and should have offered an upgrade 757 program Slept..service life extension program.

[@kevinxcal1]

Looks like that starter is toast.

[@R5H4D0W]

gee... never seen such a close up of the 747 nose come before, how many redundant pitot tubes does a 747 heavy need?

[@user-shagomoru]

原因は何だったんでしょうか･･･　　同じ機体で出発したんですか？

[@razrhunter242]

Relax guys, of course they are going to repair the plane. You think they let people fly with broken engines?

[@eddycamara3958]

Hey did anybody read captain Jack’s comment? The dude said this happened as they were landing, they let that plane fly anyway,guess they no different then a greyhound bus mechanic lol 😂

[@williegillie5712]

Can't change the pitch on the blades the VSVA has to work. Here I though maybe an ignitor malfunctioned

[@N07tony]

Yes an issue with engine No. 3. Sparks and flaming debris.

[@Skippy585]

I don't see why not. If the passenger does not have the right to ask about a next flight on a defferant aircaft then why bother to fly?

[@lanjat79]

What a great from you !!

[@Easyjet96]

They will not takeoff if theres an issue with the aircraft!

[@longshot7601]

For looks the -400 has perfect lines. The -800 looks spindly and emaciated. The same goes for the new 737MAX's. Cost per seat mile the -800 kills the -400 with all of that 787 technology going into the -800.

[@barryweiss17]

I hope that little box had an inflatable ladder to get the people off the plane.

[@Boeingbmaster]

must have been too much fuel flowing into the engine or even hydraulic fluid burning

[@SOLDOZER]

DELTA = Doesn't Ever Leave The Airport

[@EagleGaming101]

Delta has nothing to do with how planes run! This is just a plane problem. Not one plane is perfectly built

[@kobesarausad3225]

John Rambo true dat

[@openseas11]

OMG. .. mr. Wanna be rambo. Did u make that up all by yourself? Thats too funny. But not as half as funny as your screen name

[@SOLDOZER]

Jimi J Wanna be? I did two tours in Gulf 1. What did you do?

[@openseas11]

No. I didn't do Gulf 1.

[@monte61]

Safety is not number one.... Gouging the customer is .

[@davep9266]

Ass clown

[@156lexus]

I'm suddenly scared since i'm flying a delta 747

[@Buzz7saw]

Yep, that is speed tape my friend....

[@cybermarsactual]

got to go, I think there's a post of some paint drying.

[@clonSanG]

ive seen lots of engine cowels opened up with people getting on u jyst cant tow every aircraft down to the hanger just cause u need to do something time is money and safety is everything

[@HighFlightChannel]

What's missing is a Delta 747-8. Any global player airline should add the 747-8 for fleet diversity.

[@JerryLaw]

4? 2 for each side i think

[@stevemc01]

That was engine 3. In aviation, engines are numbered left to right.

[@JerryLaw]

@@stevemc01 🤣 I know mate, in wasn't talking about the location of the problem engine

[@Kpoole35]

@Associated25 DELTA: Don't Expect Luggage To Arrive

[@noobbassist1352]

um captain we have a problem the problem is the eng 3 failure

[@AIDMAP]

The body that I like the Boeing 747. I uploaded an animation of Boeing 747, too.

[@besinnliches]

How overwhelmingly amusing.

[@celmonico]

I WONDER IF THE PASSENGER AFTER THAT HAD THE RIGHT TO ASK TO BOARD THE NEXT FLIGHT AND AVOID FLYING ON THAT ONE. I KNOW OF ACCIDENTS THAT TOOK PLACE AFTER SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.

[@MineTranzProductions]

|Delta- Don't Expect Luggage To Arrive

[@ac83052]

thinking maybe he threw the fuel to it too early.

[@BruceWayneWorld]

Happens more often than you think : )

[@TG747411]

engine 3 is not running to good it has a lot of blow by need new engine

[@Ama85100]

good thing it happend during pushback!!!

[@KingHarlaus1]

The 747 have suffered so many crashes and the top 2 crashes in aviation history are all 747's.

[@speedbird1598]

KingHarlaus1 Does the fact that there were over 1500 built *maybe* have anything to do with it?

[@speedbird1598]

The crash you were referring to was pilot/controller error

[@EsotericDesi]

No wonder Delta's going to phase out these B747s they acquired when they took over Northworst Airlines...

[@davep9266]

Why is that?

[@Michael_in_Vt]

Delta has some of the oldest aircraft in the United States. Instead of investing in new aircraft like others, they decided against it.

[@theevilmeister]

And? If the aircraft is maintained properly and doesn't have more than the allowed cycles, why shouldn't it be used?

[@Michael_in_Vt]

theevilmeister It's not a Buick, it's an airplane that flies in the air. #Metalfatigue

[@PlaneSpottersNetwork]

2:29 ......thats what its all about

[@victoraguero6115]

S. O. S. to aircraft 747-400, high smoking! the mainteinance the turbinas and shampoo to fuselaje? 😕😕😖😖😷😷😬😬

[@ac83052]

早すぎる多分彼はそれに燃料を投げた思考。

[@dardymate7033]

my bro is co flying 777 for emirites just thought i'd let u know

[@monte61]

Yes they do as many are ex NW birds !!

[@davep9266]

All Delta 47's are former NWA

[@raygay1623]

Eng smoke when they are started not a big deal

[@nadeemr786]

this plane neeed shawor..

[@nomuyama48]

デルタのＢ７４７も寿命が・・・。

[@Boeingbmaster]

well a takeoff and flight could be achieved with just the 3 remaining engines

[@RUssianPilot757]

Yeah. But they wouldn't dare takeoff on 3 engines.

[@UnkownStar2011]

I think I would have hopped my ass up off that plane

[@odorouswo1f]

Poor engine

[@SH00T_TH3PUMP]

Honestly doesnt surprise me just by looking at how filthy dirty it is.

[@hussainsiyadh471]

yes safety 1ts

[@stanislawzajac3651]

Чего он такой грязный ? На разборку полетел ?

[@Godlikehenry]

burning oil

[@U20101954]

just a simple starter failure.

[@jrollins7174]

These engines don't have individual starters, they use bleed air (hot compressed air) from the APU to spin the engines up, then fuel is introduced and the engine starts (usually).

[@U20101954]

J Rollins u can find the starter of that engine inside the core cowl at around 3 o'clock position, and yes. the starter is driven by apu bleed air. i actually replaced one of the engine starter in the past because that damn starter got its shaft sheared during engine startup

[@jrollins7174]

Ok, figured you meant a starter like in a car. I see what you mean now.

[@steemdup]

This is routine on Delta

[@davep9266]

whatever clown!

[@TheLennyLegoShow]

LOL

[@BadenCityFire]

this PW engines are crap, smoke during star up and a lot of smoke during take off... always the same !

[@qwertyuiop123453993]

Omg

[@Suiramlp]

Dat engine is fucked up

[@coopergraf2302]

Anthony, anyone ever tell you you're annoying?

[@156lexus]

dirty plane

[@fotosony]

Delta airlines- a shitty company, a lot of reasons for me to say it. I've spent 60 hours in 2 airports for their mistakes, in a travel which was in papers just 20 hours!

[@fredykaetrin5442]

Je

[@cataleon80]

Non n

[@blkpylut]

Better to find that out on the ground than in the air!!! LOL!