SMSL finally did it with M500 MKII

[@iiWiReviews]

I've just realized I forgot to mention this - dial down the DPLL setting as low as you can get by without getting signal chops. In my case, I was able to go all the way to MIN. If the rest of the system is transparent enough - enjoy increased soundstage depth and improved spatial cues. Maybe not going to do much for the headphones setups but it should be more noticeable with speakers. Let me know have you tried it and did you notice any difference.

[@akselivanamo1974]

Thank you for the tip. I had DPLL set to default 5 and turning it to min was a clear improvement. Have you by the way played around with different PCM filters so far? Ive found both Fast Linear and Slow Linear to be good options, depending on music and different listening situations. Fast L producing a sharper and more detailed presentation and Slow L giving less detailed but denser and punchier sound. Other filter options I didnt care so much about. And thank you once again for your enjoyable and informative reviews.

[@simoSLJ89]

Will you have the chance to compare it to the Cambridge Audio Dac Magic 200m?

[@JTB--]

And if your sound is cutting out now and then when gaming or watching a movie/tv... dial the DPLL up

[@tewankim3489]

Wow, I did this on my Mk3 that I bought after watching your review and everything sounds much better separated, especially vocals. Thank you so much! I'm looking forward to your review of the Mk3.

[@doanhuan151192]

when i switch outputs,input( blutooth, usb, optical) , there is an audible "click" coming from the speaker, ( when use port output xlr on smsl m500 mkii) I'm worried about that noise, is it also coming from your speakers? help me, thank you ... kzbin.infoUvXuDtF2KCc?feature=share

[@yayhoo8848]

I really like your descriptions of the sound. You do this better than any other reviewer.

[@jeffkalina7727]

Love your adjectives!! Your learned English better than 99% of US born folk. The SMSL folk owe you a nice lunch.

[@edverbeek6292]

You are The King in describing differences in sound quality in audio gear. I understand exactly what you mean. Very helpful. Greetings from the Netherlands.

[@BigDawgTE]

I agree. You may be the best ever. Add your ultra-dry, slightly corny sense of humor, and Romanian (The Count) accent and you are the most pleasurable audio reviewer I recall ever having heard or read, and I have been reading U.S. and U.K. reviews since the early 80s (My first real system that I bought was an NAD 3020 and Spica TC-50's). We may be witnessing the maturation of a G.O.A.T.

[@florin604]

@@BigDawgTE He's Serbian though

[@r00s.]

Your descriptions of sound are amazing and you are one of my favorite audio reviewers... RESPECT! 🙌🏼

[@akselivanamo1974]

You are excellent reviewer. The way you describe the sound is unmatched what comes to audio reviews in youtube IMO. There seems to be genuine deep thought meeting passionate heart in your reviews. Thank you!

[@guillermocubillos9727]

So… I was looking for a DAC to replace my nice an affordable topping E30 and I found this review and made me pull the trigger for the 500 mk 2. All I gotta say is thank you! I actually compared it with a topping d30 pro (both within my budget) and the smsl just keep me captive in front of my stereo system. Thanks again!

[@empireentertainmentevents1353]

The way you describe the sound...I cant find another who can do it better than you. You are amazing !

[@st.michael9708]

Hi Srboljub, I received my SMSL M500 MK2 yesterday and it was my Plan to listen to it first for 2. Weeks before coming back here, so that I can burn - in this DAC a bit, before giving my Conclusions here. And yes, the first half Hour listening to it, it sounded a bit odd to me but it did not last long and I found it after an Hour enjoyable. I connected the SMSL to the CD/AUX - In where before my DENAFRIPS Ares MK1 was connected to. So after the second Day listening to the SMSL I have to agree with You ! The SMSL is by far cleaner, notable by Piano Notes ..... they became more " carved out " to be more real and clacking Noises from a played Accordion are also more lifelike/real. And for the Bass, the ARES MK1 appears to have a bit more Texture in the upper Bass but as You pointed out also grainier, the SMSL is clearer and reaches far deeper ! Of course, this is only a first Impression, but I doubt that I will regret the GBP 352.- spend on the SMSL M500 MK2. So thank You for this really helpful and " scientific accurate " Review ! With Best Regards, Ralf

[@shovelhead56]

Received my 500mkii yesterday and you were 100% on the money. Completely New Listening Experience!! My 22 year old Harmon Kardon/Polk/Onkyo CD System never sounded close to this. Thank You for the informative Review🤙

[@1324390]

As to the profusion and confusion surrounding SMSL's big array of DACs perhaps the very name of this Shenzhen based Chinese audio company explains it all. SMSL is the abbreviation of Shuang Mu San Lin Electronics Ltd, which literally means Double Woods Triple Forests -- predestined to develop into a tropical jungle ! Lately SMSL even launched a VMV series, elbowing into the mid-high audio market. By the way your vivid, metaphoric and enthusiastic rendering of the sonic characteristics of the products under review is rarely found among other HiFi reviewers. Congratualations !

[@erics.4113]

These are hard topics to communicate. And you always do a great job explaining. I really appreciated the film grain analogy. I was watching an older movie on film the other day and realized how much I missed that compared to the all digital modern movies. In terms of DACs, I could see situations where you would want both types, depending on the listening. I do that with speakers. I change them out when I'm craving specific music types. Maybe another DAC should be considered for this too 😃

[@dazzlerweb]

I got one of these on a great deal in January, it's nothing short of amazing for the money.

[@stevezeidman7224]

I agree with your criticism of SMSL with their practice of producing a mind-boggling array of products with indecipherable names. I was however intrigued by this unit. I own a Denafrips Ares II and I find it’s sound to be airier than anything I’ve heard before. This DAC for 1/2 price makes me consider changing but many of the things you describe about the Ares, I’d hate to give up. The most significant being the wide soundstage. It does as good a job as my turntable with an Ortofon 2M blue in terms of creating a roomful of music. Anyway, great description, great review. I really enjoy your content.

[@JayJay-ee6kr]

Hold onto the Ares. I like my cheap Aliexpress AU$60 pcm56 r2r dac better than my new M500 Mkii at the moment. Serious buyer's regret.

[@TheSinclairmoore]

@@JayJay-ee6kr thanks for saying that, I have a Pcm56 R2R dac coming in the next couple days, was thinking of buying the M500 MkIi after my system improved so much getting a Loxjie D30, was wondering if it could get even better with this one, hopefully the R2R will satisfy my need to improve things. I’ll probably save for the Pontus in the long run.

[@JayJay-ee6kr]

@@TheSinclairmoore The M500 Mkii is a good dac, I like it better now that I am bypassing my dirty spdif output by using usb (my spdif signal was flattening space). It has greater clarity and focus (like putting on sharper glasses) than the r2r but the r2r is sufficiently detailed in my system. I like the cheap r2r because the mids are less loud, the spatial image is literally laid further back, more room to breathe. It also has a texture I like. I will keep both dacs as preamp input options but would not buy the smsl again mostly because I generally prefer less prominent mids/treble so I can turn up the rhythm section. I imagine the Ares2 is the real upgrade I need but it's twice the price. I hope one of these manufacturers really does make a 'better' and cheaper dac than Ares2.

[@yvoln]

Your video makes me change my mind right away. I was going to buy SU9n, I canceled my command and buy M500mkii. It sounds brillant, it's wonderful, thank you very much. Though, it looks like smsl hasn't listened to you because there is now the M500 Mk3 , and i fully agree with you, too many dacs from smsl.

[@WallaceChen]

Great video! Your review is so helpful. I saw the comparison between DX5 、M500 MK II & ares ii . the sound description of the M500 MK II you reviewed is impressive. May I ask have you listened the newer generation M500 MK III? I wonder if it's worth paying more for the newer. thank you

[@steven2809]

Great review and detailed explanation of sound qualities...pleased you are so happy with your new favourite DAC. By the time I got to the end of the video SMSL had brought out a new product.......😂😉

[@lewtaratua1719]

SMSL is competing with itself. I imagine there are several DAC engineering teams inside SMSL like SU team, M-square team, M-flat team, DO team or I don’t know something like that team. And if their product sells, they get promotions. Just guessing. Nothing wrong with it except that reviewers will have a lot of work to do. Enthusiastic review. It helps me a lot. Thanks.

[@Robinson8491]

I love your imagination. I wonder how many engineers this company has, considering audio is a very small market

[@Raymondey]

Very well made review, as always! 👍🏼

[@HiFiGOAudio]

Excellent review as always. It's a good thing that manufacturers are leaning more into sounding musical rather than analytical.

[@st.michael9708]

Hi, this Review is the first I see here on YT from You and I must say I am delighted to listen to your Words and by the Effort You give us here ! And don't worry about your English, it is excellent like this Review ;-) I have subscribed to your Channel and look forward to see/hear more of these/your delicious Sound Descriptions on HiFi Gear. And yes, owning the Denafrips ARES MK1, I feel very tempted to buy the SMSL 500MK2.

[@shovelhead56]

Been considering upgrading my DAC and based upon your review, am going to try this unit. Had been leading towards the denefrip ares 2. Have been listening to a schitt modi 3, which sounds pretty good to my ear. Am looking forward to hooking up this m500!! Saw it advertised today for U.S. $395. Will let you know how it sounds. Thank You for the review🤙

[@JustBrowsing777]

Time to test the MKIII version that was just launched. Some new tech in it!

[@iiWiReviews]

It's on the way.

[@JustBrowsing777]

@@iiWiReviews Sweet 😊

[@KitaristChannel]

@@iiWiReviews Did you already get it?

[@user-bj7bn5bh5p]

В первые в жизни встречаю такого человека так описывающим аппаратуру столь просто и понятно простым человеческим языком до боли знакомым простым людям удивлён таким человек. Здоровья тебе и всех благ человек скурпулезно описывающий всё до мелочей нет ни надменности в твоих словах ни скептицизма удачи тебе на твоём попроще.

[@Nexavenet]

А учитывая, что Srboljub серб, он даже по английски понятно говорит, без каши во рту. Очень рад, что практически случайно наткнулся на такого классного обзорщика.

[@FilAudioEquipmentChannel]

After using M500 V1 I decided to buy mk2 and omg! I felt exactly the same quality. The soundstage and 3D feel immediately caught me in and the dynamics, the energy the presentation are indeed very good. I think it performs much better than its price point.

[@alstonmaccow9386]

It all in the mind and bet u won’t say that in a yrs time What was wrong with V1? SOUND COLOR would change the wasps it sound even making if sound 3d

[@mrenlightened]

When moving from M500 V1 to M500 MKII was the rest of your system the same? I have the M500 V2 and it seems to match everything that was described in this review. However, I still prefer the organic sound of the Ares II as it seems to have a better synergy with my class A amplifiers. I use my M500 V2 with the DA-9 and Sony SC-CS5 + Klipsch sub and its a pretty toe-tapping combination.

[@r00s.]

I plan on using the M500 MkII instead of my Topping D70S for faster paced and bassy or agressive music [EDM, Metal, Pop, etc]. Would you say that the DAC section of this is well-suited for this task? Should be better than the D70S, hopefully. I liked your sample videos showing off the M500 btw. Thanks, Erim!

[@ahmadhusaini8420]

@@r00s. I have this more than a week now and Im totally impressed with the value of this DAC. I have Matrix Audio X Sabre OG as my main system and tried this one and couldn't hear huge difference other than the Matrix Audio has a slightly tighter bass and a slightly bigger stage and a tad bit more pinpoint accuracy. The cost is a huge difference. Last time i bougth Topping D70s but sold it right after as it sounds so 2D and lifeless compared to X Sabre i have. Now since I own SMSL M500, it is almost redundant now as it is so good competing with the real TOTLS. (Copy and pasted from my comment, hope this helps)

[@piotrpix]

"I felt exactly the same quality" so your saying that if you have a MK1 the MK2 is not a worthy upgrade? I'm thinking about getting a used MK1 for 220 EUR so not sure if the MK2 if worth 2x the price (although it will be new out of the box)

[@ryder9739]

Best reviewer with good description of the sound characteristics of the DAC. Good job. 👍

[@fahryst]

Finally someone said it, I really can't get soundstage in headphones, let alone earphones and iems. Also Dude come on, I just sold my M500 and ordered a Yulong Da-art Aurora.

[@Rascallucci]

I am glad I came across this review. First of all, I have to confess, I have never used an external DAC before. So, the fact that you found the SMSL M500 MK II this amazing at such an entry level price point really makes me want to try it saving me from diving into the deep end from the word go on something more expensive such as the D1se, D2 , Qutest or even the Holo Spring 3. Your review, not just this one, but others too are nothing short of amazing and a breath of fresh air. You are born to do this. You have this uncanny ability to describe the sound in a way with the use of such an expansive vocab that is easily comprehensible. With regards to the M500 MK II particularly, when I start hearing how you describe the nature of its sound, it struck a chord with me pretty much immediately. Reason being is the descriptions you used such as punchy, fast and taught bass, sweet midrange and extended highs are very similar to how reviewers describe the sound of my amp. I am currently using the Roksan Blak Integrated. This is exactly the type of sound I like. But, my question to you is if I already have a punchy and lush amp, will it be too much to pair it up with a DAC that is also punchy and lush? I am only asking this because when you are building a system, very often is about balance. For example, many people probably wouldn't pair a fast and exciting amp such as a Naim with a bright pair of speakers such as the B&W 702 S2. It is kind of like double-downing on the same sound characteristics and traits on multiple components of a system. Or are DACs different in the sense that the sound difference they make is much more subtle? Bottom line is this, do you think the M500 MK II will match well with the Roksan Blak? Will look forward to hearing your feedback. Thanks!

[@iiWiReviews]

Hi! I've heard Blak only in the show room, it sounded great and neutral there with Monitor Audio Platinum but I can't judge much about its tonality in an unfamiliar system. That said, in my opinion two devices of a similar sound can match really nicely if that character is not overwhelmingly deviating from the neutral, which I don't think is the case for either component here. My own preamp/amp setting is full and punchy sounding compared to most and I still like how it sounds with DACs with similar character.

[@Rascallucci]

@@iiWiReviews Got it. Thanks!

[@jazzabana]

@@iiWiReviews when the time comes to upgrade ur speakers. Try dali rubicon2s if not dali epicon2s. They r simple far superior than ls50s. Dalis have beautiful imaging and , soundstage (when placed far from the back wall ca. 70cm). I A/B them b4 buying (ls50 and dalis). And I heard that blak and ma platinum 300 II combo. man, those r some speakers fiew!, they sound grandiose. And I dunno what usb cable u r using but for sparkles on top go for dh labs mirage and for air, laid back and soundstage go for audioquest coffee usb. I think our systems r sort of same tier so I wanted to be useful. I go innuos zenmini mk3 (so good)>> audioquest coffee >> smsl d1se >> yamaha 2100>> dali rubicon2s.

[@TomZzZ_100]

After your review I was ready to buy this dac but the new mk3 version has just become available. The new version brings several technical improvements but my fear is that it doesn't have those sound characteristics that you highlighted.... Can anyone tell me the sound differences between the two products does the new version retain the same fleshiness and solidity of sound? The same slightly warm timbre and not flat. Thanks

[@eddiebaby22]

Recently got a Mk III, it needed a bit of time from new for the sound to settle wasn't hugely impressed out of the box but it now sounds outstanding! I feel this one has that tangible presence in the midrange as well but dynamics, separation and space is also stunning. I know it's basically the same unit but chip tweaked further and a better power supply which is probably one of if not the most critical parts of any hi-fi. It's sounds fantastic, it's remarkable we can have this level of performance for this money now. It's a great do it all unit but again the DAC is phenomenal.

[@karlcotleanu486]

I’m thinking about the Mk III as well. Seems pretty good if someone is willing to trade in their Ares II for one of these. How are you finding the sound and features now that you have had it for a while?

[@eddiebaby22]

@@karlcotleanu486 no idea how it compares sorry

[@oliverpls]

First video I've seen from this channel. Love the descriptors used and the fact that you mix and match equipment to isolate certain qualities to each piece of hardware. Only criticism is that the videos are a little slow/long. Either way you've earned a sub!

[@cooldude14es]

Totally agreed with you about that chinese way of creating such insane amount of products… thinking about Xiaomi and so many other companies on electronics, mobile phones… that feeling of “ok I had enough and I will look somewhere else”. I also avoided paying attention on Smsl, Topping, Gustard and any other chifi product becuase of that and also because of they used to care only about measures and being on top of the list for that reason. In fact I wasnt interested on this review when I read “smsl” but then I think I will also consider this Dac. My top of the list is still Chord Qutest and Ares II but who knows, maybe M500 looks like an option now. By the way, I really like your reviews, found your channel just a few days ago but I am really enjoying it. Keep it up! Greetings from Spain.

[@maxarioso]

Similiar situation to me, I join this comment in relation to the search new one DAC and also recently I discover your easy to follow reviews (I m not native english speaker) and impressive explanation of sonority ( my current DAC is Topping d50s). Regards Max, seeing this video from Panama!

[@timchapman924]

Another great review! Love your enthusiasm and desperate struggle to get across what you hear. The SMSL comes across as a genuinely promising DAC. Thanks for the heads up!

[@cabronesse386]

LOL, Glad to see you're enjoying new gear!

[@charlesclifton1006]

Excellent !! I really like your assessment of this DAC. It sounds as if it might pair well with the buffer I use which requires XLR input from the DAC. It is a serious buffer developed by Spacetech in Canada and it opens up the soundstage and brings forth air. I really enjoy your verbal descriptions of audio equipment and this review was no exception. Keep up the good work!!!! You are right up there with the top 3 audio reviewers that I pay attention to on a regular basis. I am sure I am not alone.

[@robcaputo9708]

Fantastic video. The way you describe sounds amazing!

[@st.michael9708]

So I ordered today the SMSL 500 MK2 from the SHENZHENAUDIO Web - Page and I am looking forward to connect it to my Willsenton R8 Tube Amp over the Pre-In Input,what was not possible with the Denafrips ARES MK1 because the ARES has only fixed Outputs ! If the SMSL 500 MK2 is really better, what I still will miss is the amount of Inputs that the Denafrips ARES provides, two Coax and two Optical plus USB. But I guess for the Price I should not complain.

[@DrMuFFinMan]

I've had the S.M.S.L M300 MKII for a couple years now and I've been pretty happy with it. For 250 new its most likely the only dac I'll ever need. I do agree though they keep over saturating the market with to many similar products.

[@jctai100]

Echo the previous comments, you are really good describing /articulating the sound. Agreed, a lot of Chinese brands don't understand the concept of "Brand dilution"

[@jeffkalina7727]

Damn. Watching this a second time and you are selling me softly. Good thing you hear much better than I do.

[@S.G54321]

Great review. I've tried the MKii but I have no use for it. I still use my M500 mk1 paired up with my SH-9. If you're going to use the M500 as only a dac. I don't see a need to upgrade as the M500 mk1 and mk2 sound the same DAC wise. If you need the extras from the mk2 though, go for it. Still amazing 😊

[@piotrpix]

I think I will buy a used MK1 for 220EUR then if there is no difference... or really small difference. Currently I'm using Aune X1S on my Edifier Airpulse A100. Do you think it's worth the upgrade?

[@deangale4496]

You have sold me I think I will get one thank you for a direct honest appraisal .

[@alberg92]

Professional illustrationist

[@2ridiculous41]

I've been thinking for a while that companies like SMSL buy a bunch of components when they get a good price and turn them into a DAC. Then when stocks run down they buy a bunch of different components and build a different DAC. So it's either small run specialisation or opportunistic and almost random.

[@ranbymonkeys2384]

These Chinese companies will also fake these chips and throw an extra letter at the end and say they are a "Texas Instrument" for example. There ALL counterfeit chips and some sound good (I always wonder what they would sound like with real ones) but SMSL have the same digital bright sound that I guess is what the kids are looking for these day, hell I don't know.

[@2ridiculous41]

@@ranbymonkeys2384 please supply your evidence.

[@ranbymonkeys2384]

@@2ridiculous41 well, look at he chip with your eyeballs and then look up the data sheet for it. EDIT : Also look at the screen print on the chip the real ones dont look like that now fuck off!!

[@ranbymonkeys2384]

@@2ridiculous41 Whats your email address I can send you conversations I have has with TI also.

[@ahmadhusaini8420]

I have this more than a week now and Im totally impressed with the value of this DAC. I have Matrix Audio X Sabre OG as my main system and tried this one and couldn't hear huge difference other than the Matrix Audio has a slightly tighter bass and a slightly bigger stage and a tad bit more pinpoint accuracy. The cost is a huge difference. Last time i bougth Topping D70s but sold it right after as it sounds so 2D and lifeless compared to X Sabre i have. Now since I own SMSL M500, it is almost redundant now as it is so good competing with the real TOTLS.

[@iiWiReviews]

Great to hear this. If you haven't already, please try lowering DPLL setting to the minimum and see if you notice an improvement.

[@rsmeshramesh6914]

Hi may I know what genre of music you listen to? I notice the emphasis on this superb review was towards electronic/pop music. But what about jazz-ish kinda music. Does it bring out equal richness, body and smoothness. Would you consider this an involving dac, where one simply engages the emotions of the listener- toe tapping kind or just a more energetic, pacy and clean sounding dac without too much of emotion? Am asking as I intend to get this or the M400 dac to connect with my node 2i. I have a Schitt Freya + preamp and A2300 XTZ power amp and Klipsch 6000f speakers. Appreciate your views.

[@PauloFerreira-hh6zv]

Thank you for another great review. Denafrips DACs like the Ares II and Pontus II compete with DACs that are twice their price, with the Ares II being considered by many to be the best sub €1000 DAC. Taking into account the amount of Delta Sigma DACs that come out every month to the market, I consider DACs with R2R technology, a more "safe/smart" purchase from a purely economic point of view, for this reason and also for all their characteristics, no wonder you kept Ares II on your system for so long. That said, I have to admit that I'm surprised by your choice because you kept Ares II when you reviewed Tradutto, due to the way the way Ares II handled voices. Honestly, I wasn't expecting a Delta Sigma DAC to defeat the Ares II, after your review of Traduttto. Anyway, this is excellent news for me because I was saving money for the Ares II and so I only need to save half of what I needed initially.

[@r00s.]

Great review, Srboljub. I am seriously considering one of these. Before I saw this video I was wondering "is it Worth it?" It appears to be very worth it. 😉 Cheers from USA!

[@tempo9782]

Fantastic job as usual!

[@Jamy4ya]

I think you should also consider reviewing the S.M.S.L DO200 in order to compete with the same brand's MKii now, so that we can understand the subtle differences and get the best bang for the buck stuff. As always great review that can b trusted 👍

[@jayman3575]

Have you seen anyone compare these two?

[@josephstark4944]

I have an SA300 paired with a M500 V1 currently that’s been nice. I just ordered an AO200 and DO200 for another system. Hoping the DAC is as enjoyable as you’ve described this one. Thanks for the reviews.

[@ruffandruff]

Excellent review mate, the way you described it made a lot of sense to me. You are very good at communication mate. i would love to see you do a review on the k9 pro ess along with a comparison to m500. Thanks a lot mate

[@jmbuchela5424]

Great review, i just ordered one.

[@dungysphincter7974]

TY! for this review! Very informative. I really appreciate you!

[@mikaelsjogren6315]

5 minutes after this video I ordered the SMSL!

[@bruunm1975]

Great review. I’m looking forward to see reviews for the MK3 when it hits the shelves around the globe. Was going to get this Mk2. But now will wait.

[@BroNapartay]

Mk3 is 100usd more for 2db less noise, more signal range, with two front headphone ports both unbalanced. Skip it.

[@bruunm1975]

@@BroNapartay got Musician Pegasus coming after having one for trial. So I did ;)

[@JayJay-ee6kr]

I compared the M500 Mkii to my Topping E30 both through usb and not surprisingly the smsl is in another league with major improvement in every aspect. Besides the obvious clarity and focus improvement, texture and spatial image are noticeably better. Whilst there are some aspects of my other cheap r2r dac I like (the different approach probably), the smsl and E30 share a similar approach but the smsl achieves it much better.

[@JayJay-ee6kr]

A few folks who heard my system all prefer the M500 Mkii over my cheap r2r dac. Maybe I just love an underdog?

[@iiWiReviews]

Might be. 😊 I have just sold my Ares II few days ago and this is the first time in two years that I'm back to a chip DAC.

[@alfix7]

I've had the MK I for 2 years now... Apart from the display going wonky just after 3 months, this is indeed a solid DAC. Really thinking of upgrading to three MKII

[@nc3419]

Nicely done review. I have the D70s and have found it to be a really enjoyable dac. I think it excels with bass, midbass and does show some depth in the music. All in all, I know what you mean when describing Topping dacs and I think the D70s was the best overall balance of attributes among Topping offerings to date. And, in a pinch I could hookup an amp and use its' digital volume control which are decent although not as desirable as a stand alone pre, but that adds cost as well. I always thought from reviews that SMSL favored smooth and warm vs the more neutral presentation of Topping and until recently, Gustard might have favored bright/more analytical. Also, Topping had a reputation for reliability and longevity in their products from what I read. SMSL at the time had more complaints about early failures and lack of responding to customers' issues while under warranty, so hence I went for the perceived safer option. Still, the d70s is no slouch and is probably going to be a "classic" in the terms of Topping discontinued offerings, if there is such a thing. That all said, the SMSL M500 MKII pretty much tics all the boxes for me and would be on the list if I needed another dac. What I would prefer, or what I ultimately want in any dac device, but specifically mentioned re the SMSL M500 MKII is to drop/or at least offer a non headphone amp version and rather provide a decent pre section to be able to hookup a power amp, even though I tend to use integrated. If the pre section were good enough, and sufficiently of low distortion and high enough output, imagine the possibilities of amps at various budgets? For example, under and up to the quality of a Benchmark and at a smaller and lighter size whether class A/AB/D? If your source and pre aren't up to par, then a benchmark wouldn't be worth it. There are alot of amps available near the price of a Benchmark and under, well under that would benefit from an solid dac/pre section especially for around $400 to 600 price range. A nice, tidy setup. Add a streamer/disc player, etc and away you go. Also a variable voltage output say 2 to 4v on RCA and 4 to 8v on XLR would be cool. I like the 2.5/5.0v on the D70s. Works well with my setup. My guess is I get a wider stage vs the added depth of the M500 MKII. More body to the frequency range would be nice as well but I wouldn't just swap it out for that reason alone as the overall performance is still pretty good in my system. Either way, can't fault the M500 MKII for its' price/performance. Currently using: Keces E40 Topping D70s Marantz CD6006 (as transport) Focal 807w In reserve, I have a Hegel h160 which while it has arguably better better SQ and power, especially noticeable at higher volumes (which I no longer listen at) is sufficiently matched with the Keces E40, well enough at least at the volumes I listen at for either music or movies. Trying to decide on whether to upgrade the speakers, something smaller of larger. Right now looking at Philharmonic BMR standmount, Musician Knight 1, among a few others. The Keces E40 might well be enough, if not, I still have the hegel. As for dacs, I don't want to drop tons of money on them. Amps and speakers I can get fixed locally. Dacs...likely easier to replace. If they make an MKII with a good pre section...I'd buy that, even if I don't need it now. I have had too much coffee this morning.

[@iiWiReviews]

Agreed on D70s. Easily the best tuning that I've heard from Topping and still one of the best under one thousand. Even though I like this one more, it doesn't mean that everyone would, and the difference is probably not big enough to justify the hassle anyway. Also, you have a nice system there. Enjoy the music and cheers! BTW, I've had too much coffee today to... And no breakfast. 😅

[@nc3419]

Also, I just remembered, with SMSL and Loxjie in the past I had optical connectivity issues. The optical inputs just weren't secure. No click in but rather they would remain loosely connected or even fall out on their own while I listened.

[@marcinwasilewski5414]

I agree about Topping d70s, it's great, full midrange, dense, dynamic with extremely clean highs. Srboljub probably did not tested it with XLR output that is much better than RCA, on RCA the sound is uninteresting and slightly flat. The other factor that makes d70s shine is use of Pre90 preamplifier (a must, great combination IMO). But anyway SMSL might be good as well. These budget DAC's give such a performance that 20.000 USD dacs are unnecessary.

[@nc3419]

@@marcinwasilewski5414 Right now using it via RCAs but with better equipment, I can switch over to XLR. The higher voltage output would add some body. As RCA output is concerned, it is pretty good.

[@DYNABLASTERTUNERS]

You should try a better old Sound Blaster X-Fi card with 3D Virtual function, no DAC can compete with it in in your face emotional vocals and palpable 3D effect, once heard you can't go back to DACs, closed or BR box is great, but if you try it OB, or even better No Baffle with wide/full range units (together with bass helpers closed or BR), you won't believe what is happening, the whole room becomes sound stage, even behind you near or far away high in the air, bass is 3D layered floating in the room and you are in a spaceship somewhere in deep space (some Yello song), you are no longer just listening to music, you are actively taking part in it, it's the best thing in audio and no one knows about it. Someone should really make a DAC that has that 3D Virtual DSP function.

[@jcisme]

Now they have a mkIII !

[@paulpavlou9294]

I purchased a SMSL Sanskrit Mk2 based on your review for my office system and love it. I was considering a Denafrips Arries Mk2 for my main system and now reconsidering that idea, so thanks for the heads up on this new SMSL M500 Mk2 it’s food for thought.

[@virgogreg]

I had my Aries2 for two weeks and sold it after i watched this and ordered a SMSL 500 MK2 still waiting

[@paulpavlou9294]

@@virgogreg I saw a KZbin video on that just the other day and it looks good. I have a little SMSL Sanskrit Mk2 on my desktop system with a liner and regulated power supply and it out performs an older much more expensive Wyred 4 Sound DAC. Good buying.

[@virgogreg]

@@paulpavlou9294 the Aries 2 was good but the keeping switched it on all the time , and the M500mk2 had better dynamics and other slightly better SQ sold me

[@paulpavlou9294]

@@virgogreg let me know how you feel about it after burning in and living with it for a while. I’m tempted to get one myself as it sounds like an absolute bargain.

[@virgogreg]

@@paulpavlou9294 will do

[@yvoln]

Are you gonna test the Mk3 ?? :-D please don't lol. Anyway thanks a lot again, after many hours listenting to Qobuz I realise I would have done a huge mistake (if i haven't seen your review ) buying the SU9n , or worst the M400. I trust you 100% that is the best dac. I'm SO impressed by the basses, such a huge difference, so much more punchy but also cleaner i think, you can ear all the notes even in the lowest basses. My HS8S and HS8 have never been so happy, they feel new actually. Best regards..

[@bobb.9917]

SMSL…EH. I use Pontus II. I like warm and juicy, but can put on sharp filter if I was edgier.🙂 Yesterday I pre-ordered my Pi2Design Mercury Streamer and high quality I2S cable to plug into my DAC. I hope that you will be reviewing The Mercury Streamer! LOVE your detailed reviews! 😁

[@iiWiReviews]

I wouldn't mind having Pontus myself. 😊 We'll see about the Mercury... I'm interested too.

[@bobb.9917]

@@iiWiReviews This SMSL does seem to be an incredible value…THANKS for ALL the detailed comparisons!

[@wric01]

Ordered mercury yesterday too. Can't wait to try it on my 100 bucks 12v cheap linear ps .

[@bobb.9917]

@@wric01 What power supply do you have?

[@DistroUser]

I put my money where your mouth has been, not the exact expression but good enough! I just bought the 500 Mkll and hope it does all that you have mentioned in this video. I own several Schiit models so I am seeking something similar YET different to add to my audio components. Thanks for sharing!

[@dungysphincter7974]

I just bought this DAC today. Did you get yours yet? If so, what are your thoughts? Nobody else has reviewed this yet in English anyway.

[@DistroUser]

@@dungysphincter7974 It should be here tomorrow, I will be comparing it to the Bifrost 2 and will give an update in a few days. I did briefly own the Ares 2 and found it slow and lacking clarity yet musical.

[@DistroUser]

@@dungysphincter7974 I couldn't resist waiting so here are my initial impressions, HOWEVER, it may need burn-in but I don't expect it to change much. USB is OK but the Bifrost is superior as for Optical (using a quality glass cable) a bit better but I would still take the Bifrost any day over the SMSL. I did not try Coaxial. SMSL top end is pinched off lacking the clarity of the Bifrost and I'm not talking about brightness! Bifrost is noticeably more open and spatial.

[@221298ale]

Thank you like many for your reviews, you have a wonderful interpretation !!!! TOP !!!! I looked for the right dac and I went from the "best" without finding a musical balance for my tastes. I'm almost certainly looking for the sound you are describing to me with smsl m500mk2! at a much lower price. I think it's worth a try!!! is it still the reference dac in your system? thank you

[@zsvrljuga1]

Ares is a really good and easy to recommend DAC, but somehow never made me wanting leaving it in my setup, also Pontus (first gen), i don't find them entertaining and somehow they are out of balance between fun / dynamics, precession and size of instruments / vocals. On the other hand Chord DACs (Mojo and Qutest) somehow do that thing for me better, even MOJO first gen, I did mistake of not staying with Qutest. But I find old Aqua La Voce on the rack and RME ADI2FS (both of them have some restrictions in the depth of stage, but also some pluses in the kick and go style and balance) somewhere in between and really satisfying, your description of SMSL M500mk2 is somehow calling me to try it. GOOD JOB!

[@Robinson8491]

thank you for this comparison between Ares II and Adi-2

[@Lockk9]

I Woder how headphones would sound usind a dual XLR headphone cable out of the back ?

[@iiWiReviews]

Not great probably. That is a line out with decently high voltage but no current driving capability (meant to feed a very high impedance amplifier, not suited to push current into low impedances of headphones). That higher current drive is added to the headphone output by additional op amps that are not present on the line out section. Because of that most linen outs can't push good drive and dynamics. Only portable DACs mix all of this in one output... But they often have a sensing circuitry that will detect low or high impedances on the output, switching to head-amp when needed (headphones) and omitting it when really high impedance of the external amp is detected. OK, I went to much into the engineer mode here. 😅

[@Lockk9]

@@iiWiReviews Thanks for the detailed reply, I just wish they had put a goog headphone output on it.

[@jramirful]

Quite nice revision, congratulations.. Its an importat reference for us.

[@ossiebacchus7110]

Well popped my Dac cherry (first DAC) after watching this review. Arrives in a few days

[@iiWiReviews]

I hope you'll like it. 🎶

[@ElTejocotetl]

This one just look way better than DX5 and element iii... but for a similar prices must of us would fall for topping L50/E50 stack just for the extra power.

[@terryttk1]

@iiWi Reviews - Another insightful DAC review! Would be great to see you review the just released SMSL D-6 DAC ($169), which has 2x the new production AKM AK4493s chips. I'll be buying a DAC soon (using your affiliate links of course) and will probably get the SMSL M500 MKII, but would prefer to pay less (plus don't use headphones) and am very curious about the resurrection of AKM. Many thanks!

[@garyb7193]

Love your videos! Your SMSL D300 review had me nearly sold until I watched this video. Lol. Now I'm torn between the D300, M500 mkii/iii and the D0200. Please help! I understand pairing is everything. My speakers are Polk Reserve R200 and my headphones setup is the Little Dot MKIII tube with Senn HD650. My music consists primary of female vocals, new age, jazz and soft rock but I really own a bit of everything. Thanks!

[@iiWiReviews]

I would personally go with M500 MKII here. It's just so well balanced.

[@garyb7193]

@@iiWiReviews Thanks!

[@fredjohnson9856]

I tried the SMSL M500mkii as a replacement for my old Schiit Modi3. I found the SMSL had good sound stage and great top end, but lacked energy in the low bass; this might not get noticed with speakers that don't go really low. I went with the Sabaj a20d 2022. The Sabaj sounds great and is not missing the low bass.

[@NeekonMike]

I may be a bit late to the party, but the M500 Mk.II is now on Drop for mere $240! Had to pinch myself to believe it...

[@jcisme]

Very nice review (and rant 🙂)

[@raylow304]

Have you tried the Geshelli J2 Dac? A lot of reviewer rave about it and even compared to the Ares 2. Like to hear your opinion on it. Cheers!

[@marcosr2]

Interesting this review, man, this M500 looks great, I have a good suggestion for you, to do a review in this depth about the Allo Revolution DAC, comparing it with the Topping E30, M500 or Ares II, if I could I would send you one.

[@jabutlerfl]

I would like to see a comparison to the Schiit Bifrost 2. :)

[@sloboat55]

Excellent, really dig this vid.

[@arthurcrosby5755]

Thank you Srboljub for another really good review. The DAC sounds really impressive and the Bluetooth input is a nice extra compared with the Topping D30/A30 Pro stack. It doesn’t surprise me that the A30 Pro amplifier is better; but it is interesting how good is the DAC section of the M500 Mk II. Another new product, the Topping DX5, is priced very close to the SMSL M500 Mk II and would make an interesting comparison. The Topping DX5 has a more powerful headphone amplifier to the SMSL and is blessed with similar inputs, including Bluetooth 5. It would be interesting to compare the DAC in this similarly priced combination DAC/Amplifier, and the amplifier with the Topping A30 Pro from the D30/A30 Pro stack. I’m sure that you help many people with your excellent review videos. Well done. 👍🏼

[@iiWiReviews]

Thanks Arthur! I will test the DX5, it should be on its way as we speak.

[@MrStingraybernard]

Sounds like the perfect unit for what I like

[@landosazo7506]

the SMSL M500 MK3 just came out....a review next 2 weeks perhaps?

[@hi-fi-guru]

So forgetting the price which would you buy for yourself, the SMSL M500MK2 or the Topping E70 velvet? I've always prefered AKM dacs but again those differences are really hard to describe. Have you experienced any problems with the SMSL? There have been reports of short period failures???? BTW... GREAT reviews...love your style!!!

[@iiWiReviews]

The difference between these two is not big but E70 Velvet is a slightly better, more revealing sounding DAC. I personally never had a problem with any SMSL device but I don't use them for long. The M500 MKII is the one that I used the longest, some 8 months probably.

[@Exgol2005]

Luv everything except fine-print manual. 👌 👍 review and sharing

[@hi-fi-guru]

One more question and suggestion: How do you compare the M500MKII vs. the M500MK3 with the current discounted price on the MK2 hovering under $250.00? Is there another DAC at this price point to consider? Suggestion: Show more of the display options on the tested DAC's to see if it will display both the volume level and bit rate/freq on the same screen and can you switch between these modes with the remote??? Thanks again.

[@acheresh]

very interesting, i compared su-9n and this dac descriptions on official site, and the only real distinction is usb module, the m500 uses the newly one. you are using Pi2AES with coax output to dac? so usb differences on this dacs must not affect the sound in your case

[@dm1787]

I heard Jay's comment about it too. It seems to be random chinese companies are popping up like mushrooms every 6 month or so and selling these units , probably all coming from same white label source with slight variations here and there to cash into this pandemic hifi purchase boom. I got tired of these and dont bother with their reviews anymore even though I had purchased a few of these units myself. In terms of price point this must be a sweet spot for these vendors. But thanks for your work. I will wait for reviews of little more higher end stuff.

[@waynebarto3540]

Thanks! Loved your review! You are the best DAC reviewer on KZbin! Your review convinced me to buy the M500 MKiii unit. When going through the menu options, I do not see an item for SPDIF Mode. Does your unit include this in the menu? I am baffled on how to access this and select between "Normal Mode" and "Processor Mode". From what I can tell, you have to select "Processor Mode" to get the full decoding when playing MQA tracks. Srboljub, your help would be greatly appreciated!

[@iiWiReviews]

Thanks for your support! 🙏 If you don't see SPDIF mode in settings, that can mean only one thing - SMSL probably uses only Processor mode now. Truly, there is no reason for them to include the other one. This is only an educated guess since I didn't receive my MKIII unit in the end (due to the series of mishaps).

[@GodfreyMann]

Great explanations differentiating it with Ares II, but I’m wondering how much of your preference for the fuller sound of the M500 MkII is because it’s compensating some what for the character of your LS50s, which I find rather lean in the mids and bass. Would be interesting to know what you think of the DAC when paired with completely different speakers. Then there’s the amp you used, but I guess that complicates things even more.

[@iiWiReviews]

I do have some gear that I can circle to test if needed, and friends that I can carry a DAC to to test it in a completely different system that I also know... And I do that if needed. But actually LS50 when powered with a powerhouse and aided by a subwoofer doesn't sound that lean. REL T5x fills things out very nicely. All that aside, pairing is very important of course, as well as personal taste... that's why I try to compare it with as much DACs as possible, so you don't rely just on my isolated impression that can be biased but know what to expect compared to other devices that you might have heard too (Denafrips, Topping, Gustard, etc.).

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗SRBOLJUB, THANKS FOR SHARING THIS WITH US AND WE LEARNED A LESSON…DON’T TAKE ANYTHING FOR GRANTED TILL YOU CHECK IT OUT 🧐 and now we hope you enjoy your new dac 🤗😍😍😍

[@beaverish]

Releasing new products every other months will cause their older products to lose re-sale value faster than other brands. In this case, the MKI model. Not to mention, this product is similar to their other DACs because it's still based on ESS Sabre chip except they added a headphone amp as an afterthought and put it in a different enclosure with a different model name slapped on. Look at Schiit, you can still sell their DACs and AMP at 80% value. I no longer buy SMSL or Topping products for that reason.

[@NiSHAN256]

How is the soundstage compared to the Tradutto? didn't talk about it so I guess it's the same?. Great review btw!.

[@iiWiReviews]

Pretty much the same. Dimensions and positioning are the same, it's just a touch airer on M500 MKII.

[@Alamo-cz5xc]

Bro, your descriptions are the shit🤣 Great review

[@lolerinu]

MKIII was just released today

[@iiWiReviews]

Interesting. If they only improve headamp section a bit it will be a bit worthy refresh.

[@relaxingrabbit75]

Great review. I too have kept the Ares II until now after comparing to D90/X16/SU9 and many others. Is the MKii as forward sounding as Ares II? When you are listening to vocals, do you feel the singer is right in front of you or you are a few rows back?

[@DistroUser]

iiWi I am surprised and question your review on the SMSL M500 MK2? Yes the SMSL has a fullness and meaty presence but when it comes to overall transparency, openness, and spatial abilities the Bifrost 2 is superior! I also briefly owned the Ares 2 and would easily put that above the SMSL but still missing the qualities of the Bifrost 2. My two cents, my two ears...Cheers!

[@jazzabana]

How much is Bifrost 2?

[@roycspary8923]

If I may try to help your impressively good english, when something is called a mk2 that is an abbreviation for mark 2. hope that helps

[@hi-fi-guru]

I think I'm on overload from watching your terrific videos. I've now eliminated the E70velvet in favor of the SU9-Ultra or this M500MKii. But... what do you think of the newer M500mkIII? I'm surprised that none of the M500's are using the latest ESS 9039Pro DAC. What kind of difference would you think this would offer....in otherwords, is waiting in order. So... based on my experience with previous AKM DAC's I'm trying to decide between the SU-9 Ultra or M500mk3??? Your thoughts and/or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the great vids and reviews. Your unique presentations are refreshing, informative and not too overburdened with details, that as you say, can be read. Thanks again!

[@iiWiReviews]

I would go with Ultra. It's their latest and best DAC in this price range so far.

[@hi-fi-guru]

@iiWiReviews i've since been looking at the bewer DL300 and DO300EX. Both with the newest AKM chipset which seems be gathering a lot of converts and followers with all the features of the SU-9 Ultra (give ir take a few Op-amps). New midels have upgraded archetecture and lower prices. Beginning to think O dont need headphone jacks since these would go into a room audio system. Any experience with these 2.newer models?

[@sambalanc4283]

I like your voice and your explanation very much, most of SMSL's products are good.

[@D1N02]

This is actually an interesting product. How did it do with Laura Marling - The end of the affair compared to the Ares II?. I am still eyeing the Schiit modi Multibit (which is consistently not available in Europe) but this might be better. That being said, there are people online who question whether DAC's reviewers get sent are actually the same as the ones you buy online. This could of course be tested by putting a review copy up against a copy bought online by somebody else.

[@t0nyxgq]

I hear that the Schiit Modi Multibit is discontinued. Might want to find one on the used market.

[@D1N02]

@@t0nyxgq I did some research on that. it's production has been halted due to parts shortages ( Analog Devices ADSP digital signal processors. ) Can't share a link to it because utube hates me.

[@FilAudioEquipmentChannel]

Trust me they are. The mk2 I purchased amazed me the same way. I was blown away the sheer sound quality of it.

[@jazzabana]

Put geshelli labs j2 on ur list. Because I always have been after some more body to the sound of my system, my list consisted of geshelli j2, schiit bifrost 2 and this smsl m500 mk2. Well I just pulled the trigger, lets see what it is all about. I own d1se and zen dac v2 and onboard dac of innuos zenmini mk3 streamer to compare it to. Fingers crossed that it will sound different than the other smsl d1se.