SMT:Vengeance Demi-Fiend Hard Mode in 2 Turns No Drain/Repel Phys Adversity or Demon Levels Required

[@tmlss5054]

"e" - nahobino 2024

[@banjoacoustic]

e- e- e- e- e- ekumiumiyo

[@Felix-ic1fc]

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[@zerankite]

Now I can only see gawr gura with her "a" giving with nahobino "e" now

[@user-zl1vf4me1p]

Bro gave Demi-Fiend Mot PTSD, that's foul

[@thunderstar7682]

Triggering Mot ptsd will make you deal extra damage

[@hamiltonnavas3442]

That proves Nahobino is superior than Demi-fiend

[@Foran98]

Whats ptsd?

[@jerry3115]

There are so many cool over the top strats with the new unique passives in this game, i love it

[@crushingon]

It looks like Nahobino is bitch smacking Demifiend until it dies. Truly fitting for his role as god.

[@michaelmills2840]

Just used this strat to beat him, this was really helpful. He's been tormenting me for the passed few days, now I can jump Lucifer.

[@R4fa9S]

Bro became the boss 💀

[@JDragonKnight654]

I feel like Demifiend just got “The Mot experience” PTSD again

[@kiritomato187]

Damn, that's impressive

[@joshualawrence4301]

You are a genius. This is so sick

[@zaqareemalcolm]

nuwa, yoshitsune and baal the press turn cheese squad 🥵

[@SaShA6572]

Mastema: ...

[@amirgarcia547]

RIP Kudlak being sacrificed just to fill the magatsuhi gauge LMAO

[@charlesrd1986]

sacrifice for the passive skills

[@maverick5169]

Mari: I feel happy for some reason

[@MuntoRickDiaz]

Thanks so much for this vid. Finally defeated this guy on normal. It was enough with 6 press turns on normal. Cheers.

[@raulrojas9253]

OMG thanks, finally beat Demi fiend for the first time on hard mode. Still feels kind of bad that I could not beat Masakado or demi fiend on my own unlike with Shiva. It is what it is.

[@Irie_k]

Wow I didnt realize omnipotent succession was a charge effect that’s insane

[@painuchiha2694]

I should start paying attention to passive demon abilities also I never knew omnipotent succession was a charge effect the entire game 💀 I been playing wrong the entire time lol

[@todd3143]

you’re demi-fiend now

[@Jubanen12]

This boss music is kinda cool and the strat is flawless

[@auxxillary]

thank you for the guide! Worked perfectly after a bit of RNG

[@jwwilliams5407]

Absolutely nice

[@Yuki85]

Okay but can we talk about how perfectly music and animation sync during last attack?

[@PhazonKing]

This is simply insane. 😵‍💫

[@jonathansoelle3825]

Hey for what it's worth i also liked the other deme fiend strat but this is great too

[@michaelmills2840]

You should also note that you gave Kudlak safeguard

[@michaelmills2840]

And Yoshitsune with null dark

[@Krezzing]

How did u manage to maintain Succession When i use it the effect is only used once

[@GreatBigHill]

The Deity Magatsuhi skill makes it so charge effects don't expire.

[@amirgarcia547]

@@GreatBigHillDang, so Succession+Charge is basically just a broken combo.

[@HashBandicoot356]

@@amirgarcia547 I think it works because succession IS a charge effect?

[@klaus.sfc01official30]

How the hell did you get 8 turns!?

[@johnny8363]

I can help you with this Yoshitsune passive: Whenever an ally takes an action that consumes one or more press turns, you gain 1 extra press turn on the next turn. Baal passive: whenever the user is the target of a debuff, they gain a press turn. Nuwa passive: when an attack is drained/repeled, gain 1 press turn on the next turn. Some things may not be accurately described but basically this is how he gets extra press turns

[@GreatBigHill]

@@johnny8363 For the Nuwa passive it's actually if an attack is resisted or nulled twice that she gives an extra press turn. It doesn't work with repels/drains which actually hurts reliability in this clear as Pixie can target her with zanbarion and that would ruin the strategy.

[@johnny8363]

@@GreatBigHill Ah thanks for the correction, I wrote the comment based on my memory so I imagined this type of error could occur

[@DRKLRD-kv4cm]

​@@GreatBigHillquestion. Seeing that you have Nuwa, It means this Is at least your NG+1. Since i'm still at my First cycle, do you recommend farming and the doing the super bosses, or Is It Better to start a new cycle, to take advantage of the new unlockable demons and farm while progressing?

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

​@@DRKLRD-kv4cmTalk to Yakumo a few times. He unlocks the nuwa forms. It's not NG+

[@lemonjelly1171]

the "ehehehe" strat

[@tayfur8817]

Thank you very much I love you❤

[@siekensou999]

cual es el ítem que usa para que le salgan más turnos ? no alcanzo a ver , solo susecion y charge al final

[@JacksonMcGregor18]

how does it do 2500? most i get is 1900

[@francoisclement-x6s]

My turn end when the kudlak die, 6 turn in stock but its finish when he die. Dont understand. I not use your all strat but i have take your Idea for thé combo kresnik/kudlak. Juste work on your build or i have a bug?

[@GreatBigHill]

Kudlak needs the safeguard skill

[@francoisclement-x6s]

Haaa thanks you ❤

[@francoisclement-x6s]

Just got them with my figment slash build thanx again for your help.

[@Gamedres95]

Hey, just curious, did you think about using Omnipotent Succesion + Omagatoki Charge yourself? Beacuse there was a recent post on the megaten subreddit that talked about how OP of a strat that was, while also talking about how it could be better if you use Bael and Yoshitsune's innate skills

[@GreatBigHill]

I don't use Reddit. I came up with charge+succession idea for Satan after seeing how Alilat could preserve the succession status with her innate skill and I had been using charge a lot with figment slashers against bosses like Shiva, Tiamat and Samael. I then decided to redo my Demi-Fiend clear with that strategy as my previous version was pretty lame.

[@loto7197]

Did u read it on Reddit because i read it on reddit 🤓 type beat

[@Gamedres95]

Dang I got ratio'd, fair tbh I do sound like a 🤓

[@bloomingdaemon]

​@@Gamedres95No worries, happens to the best of us

[@anthonycid8590]

This is CRAZY

[@TheRealTKTwilight]

My favorite part was when the Nahobino said "ii"

[@TheRealTKTwilight]

Fr though, that's nuts Makes me really want to finish the stuff I'm playing rn so I can give it a go myself lmao

[@louistim10689]

Nice job!

[@ethanjordan23]

I don't get it how did you maintain your Omnipotent Succession? Was it sandalphon's passive?

[@fairtoki1685]

He use Omagatoki: Charge, it keep all charge types effect for whole turn. Sandalphon is use for passive enable all almighty damage to crit.

[@sanctusaura4874]

Omagatoki charge. Succesion is counted as charge skill.

[@UnifiedGod777]

As long as you don’t use an attack skill after using a turn to pop it, it will remain until you attack. This means you can pop it turn one and then wait until the next turn you have critical, pop critical and have Nahobino use a skill (Ikyumi in this case) 4 times which will always crit.

[@LuisRuiz-jq5er]

So just to be sure, you can do this strat and also have concentrate or charge? Cause that shit would be broke af

[@UnifiedGod777]

@@LuisRuiz-jq5er No, OS overwrites charge effects (Impaler's Animus, Charge, concentrate, donum gladi/magici and critical aura) but will stack with other Magatsuhi skills (adversity, critical, savage, etc) and it will not overwrite luminescent mirage.

[@who2785]

this is insanity

[@rift3487]

Will this work for murakumo as well?

[@GreatBigHill]

Ikuyumi with max debuffs does more damage than murakumo so you'd have to get lucky with crits.

[@TheDittoChannel]

@@GreatBigHill I think you'd do more damage with Murakumo in general assuming you don't just miss every crit (use murderous glee). You wouldn't need Sandalphon on the field hogging press turns, so you could get 12 more Murakumo off than in the video. Of course, both work great regardless

[@GreatBigHill]

@@TheDittoChannel Sandalphon isn't taking up any extra turns since I'm not able to generate extra press turns with MC.

[@TheDittoChannel]

@@GreatBigHill True, though Murakumo critting would be able to generate them

[@GPhoen1x]

I pulled it off after many attempts. Most failed at the end because I could not get a crit for an extra press turn even with both glees so I just used Narukami on Girimekhala on Sandalphon's turn. Overall great strat with the biggest downside being Girimekhala and Cu Chulain being dicks with Megidolaon instead of debilitating

[@JohnYakooza]

How do you guarantee the enemy will use debuff on only Baal to get the extra turn? Also I thought Demi Fiend resist Almighty too, how is Nahobino doing regular damage

[@GreatBigHill]

I can't guarantee that, even using taunt wouldn't help. I mention this in the description but the enemy turn is not as reliable as I would like. What needs to happen is that either Cu or the elephant use debilitate or the elephant targets Baal with toxic spray for the strategy to work, that happened about 50% of the time while testing. Only Mitamas resist almighty in V, I do a lot of damage because I have over 200 magic and Ikuyumi is a really strong move.

[@G0OG4]

@@GreatBigHilli cant do the strategy because in all of my attempts, pixie keeps spamming mazandyne, which nuwa reflects, stopping me from getting more press turns

[@GreatBigHill]

@@G0OG4 I never had Pixie use mazandyne in testing so I don't know how to help, she would sometime target Nuwa with zanbarion but not that often. The only thing I can think of is that maybe MC should null force but that's just a guess.

[@G0OG4]

@@GreatBigHill i fixed the issue actually!

[@G0OG4]

@@JohnYakooza simply give baal either drain or reflect force, he naturally learns drain force but i didnt teach it to him

[@michaelmills2840]

Is there a miracle you need so my press turns don't go away when hit Grimakala?

[@Shermm]

Safeguard passive skill

[@michaelmills2840]

@@Shermm I got it earlier, thanks tho

[@jtshmo]

I have a question tho, how are u using heavenly ikuy with ominpotent succession multiple times? I though it gets rid of it after one usage

[@rossovivie]

I believe the idea is you start with 4 turns, but Change your party back into the stock, so all these extra turns go back to Nahobino/remaining members to use. (Or something like that. I need to try the strat to understand it lol)

[@Nothing-fc2so]

Late to this, but it's due to Omagatoki charge.

[@rusdyfrans3679]

how you unlock nuwa ? is it not possible in law route 1st playthrough?

[@BussiDestroyer]

on CoV you have to talk to Yakumo after he states he is dropping out of the race in real tokyo. read about his file in bethel Japan. visit school, the shrine etc to trigger cutscenes.

[@Gundmi]

Was so happy to find this video as it's all something I feel I could pull off, but... [Semi-spoilers below] I am unable to get Nuwa in my NG run now because I didn't go visit the stupid school/temple before certain events happened in the sequence of final bosses. Seems like this locks one out from getting her in NG as a character who converses with Yakumo isn't around anymore. Any recommendations, or do you think 6 turn icons will suffice somehow without Nuwa cooking up a 7th? I don't need a two turn kill, I just need a kill so I can finally go smoke the boss that leads to Godborn mode 😢 Seems like Demi-Fiend or at least one of his skills is the only way to no get one-shotted every fuckin' turn in that fight.

[@GreatBigHill]

This strategy was meant more as a cool showcase than anything else, there are way easier methods. I have another Demi-Fiend clear on the channel, it uses snake Nuwa for drain phys but you can get repel phys from Abdiel instead and it does the same thing. It is also possible that Impaler's Glory with figment slash could be a good substitute for omnipotent succession and ikuyumi since it generates extra press turns. Swap Baal for any Vile demon for the initial party and then switch Baal in on turn 1 on the vile's turn. Baal would need null or resist phys to survive and you could replace Nuwa with anyone who nulls or resists phys. Everything else would go the same but you wouldn't need Sandalphon. I haven't tested that but it's worth trying if you want to use this strategy.

[@Gundmi]

@@GreatBigHill Appreciate the reply :) I'm gonna set up Abdiel later and get back to it! I really don't want my second playthrough cycle to not be on Godborn so this helps immensely!

[@Gundmi]

​@@GreatBigHill That was some legitimate intel. I was already running Figment Slash, so I just had to slap on Evergreen, grab some spare compendium demons, and teach Vampire Man Safeguard and a physical skill. Think it took like five or six hits and Demi-Boy was roasted! Didn't even get Baal to proc his extra press turn either. Had no idea you could just camp Succession/Impaler's and double dip with charge (so damn stronk). Thank you so, so much! I get to keep playing my favorite game! :D Time to see how much of this applies to Satan!

[@GreatBigHill]

@@Gundmi It's good to know that Impler's Glory works with this strat, I thought it might but it looks like it's better than ikuyumi since you don't need Nuwa and it works on NG Canon of Creation. Both Charge and Impaler's Glory are very slept on, even when you don't combine them like this. I think Glory is something like a 3.5x boost and Charge is really good with every charge skill.

[@jamesbryant2706]

so is nuwa new game plus or do you just not get them in path of vengeance?

[@GreatBigHill]

You can get Nuwa in the Vengeance route by talking to a Bethel researcher after you meet Yakumo in Taito and then watching some cutscenes with him at the school and the temple. She is not locked to NG+ in the Vengeance route.

[@-ikarus-4846]

When the math is mathing

[@Mad77max77]

I don't think I can pull that Off. I'll try to find a more accessible strategy.

[@GreatBigHill]

I didn't make this to be a guide, more of a cool showcase of what you can do with innate skills. If you get the drain/repel phys skill you can easily do it with the beast Magatsuhi skill adversity. People have also said to me that a slight variation of this strategy also works if you replace succession and ikuyumi with impalers glory and figment slash which eliminates the need to have Nuwa and Sandalphon.

[@sephaz1248]

Question Ikuyumi or Murakumo which one better?

[@GreatBigHill]

Ikuyumi. I have another video where I use Murakumo on DF and a crit with critical zealot does around 4k per hit. That might seem better than the 2.4k I do with Ikuyumi but you're basically forced to use critical aura to get that kind of damage with Murakumo meaning you can't use it with donum magici or succession. The requirement of getting enemies to max debuffs isn't an issue since you want to be doing that anyway. If you want a strength build then figment slash is a lot better than Murakumo.

[@johnny8363]

It depends, if you rely on critical aura then you can't use other buffs, Ikuyumi is better, however if you can maximize your critical chance effectively without relying on critical aura then Murakumo is better

[@GreatBigHill]

@@johnny8363 Even with both glees which is a significant investment your crit rate still isn't high enough to be reliable from what I've seen. Are there other ways to increase crit besides Glasya-Labolas?

[@dave9515]

@@GreatBigHill Not really also people have datamined the crit formula and lets say you need to have up to 3-4 times the enemy luck for consistent crits and the glees are never good. Also agility is pretty worthless as a stat too outside of increasing that and luck to lower ailment susceptibility and enemy crit chance.

[@KoriKitsune]

@@GreatBigHill Lucifer passive also increases crit rate apparently for the entire team, but... so far lucifer passive appears to be bugged or works in weird ways / translation error from japanese.

[@TerraDoLL]

Where do u get Omnipotent Succession?

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

It’s only in canon of vengeance you get it by just progressing the story

[@ArthurKH358.2]

What the what?!?! I do have Heavenly Ikuyumi like you but all I do is let Beelzebub debilitate while Konohana Sakuya use Bowl of Hygieia and Sakuya Sakura or JUST the latter and my last party member is Agrat with both Almighty Pleromas restores and glees to compliment her Queen’s Decree. As for my protagonist along with Heavenly Ikuyumi I also have Moonlight Frost, Elusive Eclipse and Intercalation. I think I need to change my strategy…

[@devilsnevercry22]

Ok can someone explain to me what he did here??

[@GreatBigHill]

Omnipotent succession works with the deity race skill that makes charge effects not expire.

[@lowhp_comic]

Bro unlocked Omnislashdyne

[@thepyrokitten]

wait, omnipotent succession is a charge effect?!

[@SaShA6572]

Always was be, but another side of coin if you finish kill target it randomly chose another one, it can be even target with repel light for example-like Salmael, then naho can simply die, like people say -high risk -high reward

[@carloscardoso2193]

how to unlock Nuwa ?

[@GreatBigHill]

She is unlocked after beating the game on Canon of Creation or by checking up on Yakumo after you see him in Taito in Canon of Vengeance.

[@SaShA6572]

In CoC she was locked during netral endling, but people say she can be unlocked by beating normaly CoC. Personally in Vengeance path i just meet Yakumo near entrance to Shiva demons teritory, talk with people in Lab, then seek him at school, then go to Tokyo Temple and receive access for summoning.

[@nevonte16]

Is this possible without Nuwa?

[@GreatBigHill]

From what I've heard, the general strategy is possible without Nuwa but you'll want to use impaler's animus and figment slash instead of omnipotent succession and ikuyumi. Naho will want the generic figment slash build (figment, pleromas, beast + dragon eye, crit zealot) and you can replace Nuwa with anyone who resists/nulls phys. Replace Baal with a vile demon for the initial setup and swap Baal in on the vile's first turn. The reason this works better than ikuyumi is because you don't need Sandalphon and you can generate your own press turns with crit. The reason this video is with ikuyumi is because it's cool and I never see people use magic for superbosses even if it is worse than figment slash (I also didn't think of the figment slash version until a few weeks ago).

[@Arshenborne]

If you use Figment Slash instead of that with Animus it's much Faster

[@charlesrd1986]

and the pierce effect? doesnt stack with sucession

[@deejungmungkpngfun731]

lol l have no idea you can return your demon in battle by resummoning it.

[@davidtowers1863]

What kind of stats you rocking though

[@GreatBigHill]

Builds are in the description. MC has 219 magic and none of his other stats matter

[@davidtowers1863]

@GreatBigHill Thanks, pulled it off a slightly different way but this guide was top notch, I had 218 magic, funny enough

[@GreatBigHill]

A slightly modified and more reliable version of this clear can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6OQk4Omhr9-npI

[@vivid8979]

At first I thought this guy is just trolling for memes since he brought lvl45 Yoshi and summoned some.... But at the end decimated Demi-Fiend with a single vowel. Deym

[@highwizard6764]

How did you get Japanese voice?

[@GreatBigHill]

You can select it from the options menu. If you play on Switch then you might have to download the Japanese voices as a free DLC.

[@highwizard6764]

@@GreatBigHill ahhh, i play on PS5 that's why I don't have

[@GreatBigHill]

@@highwizard6764 I play on PS5 too, the Japanese voices option might only be accessible if you go into the menu from the title screen. They're included in the PS5 version so you don't have to download anything extra

[@highwizard6764]

@@GreatBigHill I'm already starting my 4th playthrough and just found out. Thanks

[@whoeveritisicannot]

who would win: King of Chaos or some blue-haired twink with a bow, a hot snake lady and straight-up cheating

[@dartknite]

Kudlak not work ...

[@imsusanov2287]

Is this persona 6?

[@zaqareemalcolm]

no, its the series that persona is an au of

[@ThisGuyHasName]

It's better Persona 🙃🙃

[@nicholasnajibi3082]

Can’t respect you if you have Yoshitsune in your party. It means you put it on easy mode, regardless of the difficulty you put it on. you have these little anime kids fooled…but not the real gamers

[@GreatBigHill]

Lv 45 Yoshitsune is too powerful, Hassou Tobi needs a nerf.

[@Shadowizzmoneygang]

Take a look at this clown

[@jalalal8056]

Preach. Such a crutch for bad play.

[@Shadowizzmoneygang]

@@jalalal8056 preach my ass lmao Yoshitsune has been heavily nerfed in this game

[@jackour8167]

Clown