Absolute Nightmare of a Steam Locomotive - Will it Run?

[@tifauk]

Been watching you for a while now. It's refreshing to see someone give love and a bit of care to these old loco's, even imperfect as they are. So many people would just abandon them and leave them to the rubbish pile. Keep doing what you're doing 👍

[@SMTMainline]

Thanks, I think cheap locomotives are a somewhat forgotten part of the hobby.

[@stevesmodelbuilds5473]

It's amazing how he can turn a piece of junk into a good runner...

[@robinforrest7680]

Great motor the X04! You were really lucky to find what is clearly a brand new one in Canada!! Loco really needs some buffers though!

[@johnellick7778]

Nice job once again bringing an HO locomotive back to life. 👍

[@tamasbasa9132]

Hi! Not ho, but oo size. Tomi

[@johncartwright4041]

I got my first model train in 1958 and your videos bring back many good memories. You're a genius at resurrecting these old trains. Greetings from Brisbane Australia.

[@lexluthermiester]

@SMT Mainline SMT: "Oh shoot, lost a wheel..." Engine: "No problem! 'Tis but a scratch! I'll just keep going..."

[@flagman515]

In addition to a loose screw you have a lost wheel! Just funnin' with you. Keep the great videos coming. It is very inspirational watching you make engines run again. Thanks!

[@modelrailroader5619]

As I watched you work on this, I really wanted you to do the full Monty on it. Strip the paint and completely overhaul and rebuild. Good job getting it going!

[@SMTMainline]

Honestly I didn't really have an issue with the paint work, just the drive.

[@ajivins1]

@@SMTMainline I think a single coat of spray varnish would equalise the paint. Satin maybe or gloss if you want to keep it that way. The decals might want to slide off if you wash the body so a drop of Johnson's Klear to each would cement them in place. An interesting loco and livery I don't know, special.

[@rayhuntermusic]

The doctor scores again!!!! Well done

[@aceact9883]

I was dying when the wheel fell off

[@PopCorn-pv8qq]

DONT SPOIL IT

[@ACUPOFGRUNGE]

Oh shoot we lost a wheel

[@SMTMainline]

It transformed from a 4-4-2 to a 4-4-1, many thought this was impossible until now lol

[@ACUPOFGRUNGE]

Now we have the true answer for Lionel's middle rail

[@falzar3381]

LOL! Well, Edward lost a wheel once, so it shouldn't feel too bad.

[@MattKonsol]

Really nice restoration on it. It’s crazy that there was paint kinda all over the old motor.

[@martinbrain3372]

Great video as always. The loco looks like a white metal kit built using an adopted tri ang 4 4 0 chassis. I am not an OO gauge modeller, but I am pretty sure that tri ang never made a 4 4 2 chassis. It looks like it only picks up from one set of wheels, so you may want to improve on that.

[@captaincool3329]

Could be a Triang princess 4-6-2 chassis with the rear driver cut off? Not sure but that's what it appears like to me.

[@BR45723]

@@captaincool3329 Triang did produce a 4-4-0 loco in the form of the L1, so it’s likely the driven wheelset with custom bogies fitted to the front and back, alongside outside cylinders and valve gear being fitted

[@oskarvalance3041]

There was no doubt in my mind that you would get it running again. Great job. From Texas

[@Papa_Shurika]

Hello! It was a pleasure to look at - great renovation! The British steam locomotive cannot be confused with something else. 👍

[@MrBnsftrain]

I'm glad you got that North British Railway H class up and running again. I have some old Tri-Ang rolling stock and I can tell you the flanges on that stuff are much thicker and the rails sit higher than code 100. They were refined to code 100 standard around the late 60s/early 70s. British model trains have been more kitbuilt longer than their American counterparts. In fact, some British model train manufactures still provide some rolling stock kits.

[@BurlingtonRailfan]

Hey SMT great video, and I want to thank you for getting me into the model railroading hobby. I’ve been watching your videos for about 2 years now, and it’s cool to see the progress on you layout from then to now, keep doing great work.

[@knoxturinsky1658]

Wow I'm amazed of the way you can work non working train's

[@NJEsperantist]

Best explanation is that a child, or unskilled painter at least, got ahold of it one day and decided to 'improve' the look with fresh paint. Gads, the paint looks like it was slathered on like icing! Good job getting it to run at least.

[@SMTMainline]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[@thhseeking]

Looks like my level of painting expertise :P

[@NSSignalGuy]

Great video. Its nice to see restoration videos on things other than consoles and computers

[@johnheinzl8771]

Great job Harrison - definitely one of top repair videos! We love watching them! Please continue to challenge yourself with the engine repairs. Thanks again for giving us great content!

[@anthonymunoz6013]

Now there's a OO with pizza cutters for you ! Nice job!

[@Petemonster62]

SMT - You should certainly now clean the rails on the main line! Your Volt-Ohm-Meter will be very useful. That square black pushbutton switch is to select different ranges of resistance, voltage, & current. The lower ohms range (Omega symbol) will be good for checking continuity, the higher kiloohms & megaohms ranges would be good for checking the resistors used in electronic circuits. The voltage and current will have different ranges, plus selecting AC or DC. You had to correct many errors that the original modeler did when they constructed the locomotive!

[@SMTMainline]

The track was cleaned recently so I don't think that was the issue. Can't wait to use the Volt-Ohm meter on other projects, it's gonna be a bit of a learning curve on how to use it correctly but it's already been useful.

[@Benthetrainkid]

Would suggest getting more Hornby/Tri-ang tracks to expand on the circle layout

[@RayBoebel]

All I can say is WOW!! Harrison the Magician!!!

[@tomcook5813]

Good lord…imagine how nice that would look stripped and repainted 😊

[@moderndaysalvage3976]

Nice job getting that one back to life. I got an interesting engine it's a battery powered Hot Wheels engine It works though I have no track or cars and I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it but let it sit for now and at $4 I just couldn't pass it up especially being a Diecast Collector

[@JPoulAndersson]

Nice NBR class H Reid Atlantic, later class C11 LNER. They worked out of Edinburgh and Aberdeen to Glasgow, Carlisle and Newcastle I believe. Nice job! Joachim

[@TheEcoGuys]

Great video. If you ever have any unusable motors, metal, plastic, never throw it out. You can always mail off to us at The Eco Guys, and we can recycle it. We can recycle just about anything. So no more "throw it out" LOL... Love your videos, and made me come back to the hobby. Oh my other channel is John Wild KILLROY, so I have messaged you there as well...

[@roybal1975]

Funny hearing the little footsteps🤣🤣🤣

[@SMTMainline]

If you can believe it everyone is trying to walk quietly lol

[@vuurvrproductions4656]

i couldn’t comment last night but now i can, i got excited when i saw this video last night.

[@johnd8892]

It's an early seventies white metal GEM locomotive kit that has been assembled and painted badly. If you search for Worthpoint GEM North British Railway Atlantic Class 1 ( LNER C9/C10 ) 4mm you should see a kit that was for sale with an illustration of the makers well assembled one and a description of the parts included or needed. In the UK hundreds of different types of locomotives were only available as kits and so were produced mainly in the period of the mid fifties to eighties. White Metal kits were cheap to tool up for a manufacturer but difficult to assemble well except for very skilled modellers. I suspect this one had the original chassis ruined by the builder and so tried to use a working Triang 4-4-0 instead. In the rare case where it is built and modified well to correct shortcomings in the design a very powerful and unique locomotive can result. On KZbin Tony Wright often explains why he only uses these well built kits on his massive layout and so being able to pull scale length trains. However even he will not touch some old sub standard kits.

[@jefflynnalex]

If you don't have one, I highly recommend that you pick up a "Gear Puller." NWSL makes a nice one. Super useful for getting worm gears off of a drive shaft and also for pulling wheels off of axles.

[@4everdc302]

SMT Manual British OO/HO Hornby. But also mentioned in the "land of misfit locomotives section," lol Great save Harrison🚂🇨🇦🙋

[@SMTMainline]

This was a close one, everything was in such bad shape.

[@jebbohanan2626]

I love these kinds of videos! An almost hopeless case of locomotive neglect and it’s runs AGAIN!! Well, sort of, kinda… More like wobbles again…😅

[@SMTMainline]

Thanks, I love working on these things.

[@peterreed4654]

The loco is a British kite build, made by a company called south eastern fine cast. It's a model of a Scottish company called north british railway from the 1920s. The kit used parts of a early triang loco,all of the smaller wheels came with kit.

[@krazytroutcatcher]

Thanks, you beat me to it. Personally I’d strip it back, re fettle repair and repaint. Do you know if the body is dimensionally accurate-ish?

[@SMTMainline]

Thanks for all the information, it wasn't clear who made all the parts for this (Other then the tri-ang drive as mentioned )

[@johnd8892]

A GEM kit. You can see one that was for sale by searching for : GEM North British Railway Atlantic Class 1 ( LNER C9/C10 ) 4mm My guess is the kit chassis did not work well so a bodge job using Triang model parts.

[@thestati0nmaster579]

1910s*

[@nileswilson577]

Nice very nice all the way up to when the wheel fell off😂 Had your hands full on that one. 😅

[@tineyshingleton3991]

When the wheel fell off it got me good 🤣😂😂😂😂😂

[@garysprandel1817]

Well look at Mr fancy pants here with his voltmeter and motor rewinding 😂. Seriously though Harrison I honestly don't think there's a broken locomotive short of someone taking the late great Gallagher's Sledgomatic to that you can't bring back from the brink.

[@smithgroove945]

Great save👍

[@CZ350tuner]

Pre-Triang brass rail Series 0 (1950), Triang Series 1 (1950 - 1951), Triang Series 2 (1952 - 1958), Triang Series 3 (1958 - 1961) & Triang Super 4 track systems are all Code 250 rail profile height. Triang - Hornby System 6 track is Code 100 rail profile height.

[@johnd8892]

More like code 125 with my series 2 track.

[@jonathanhagenbuch1018]

Congrats on 80k!

[@SMTMainline]

Thanks!

[@annharris3399]

that engine is an old 1958 tri ang princes Elizabeth loco that has been cut down to make it into the loco it is now, it was normal in the 50 60s to convert a triang prince's Into whatever you wanted it to be, every month the railway modeller would have an article in it, take one triang princes and a hakesaw,

[@MattKonsol]

Yeah congratulations on 80k man @smt mainline aka Harrison.

[@LocomotionMotion]

nice work. Strange locomotive though!

[@SMTMainline]

Thank you very much!

[@robertmunguia6172]

I'm amazed how you can fix a not working train

[@SMTMainline]

Thanks

[@peterforden5917]

nice work for a c60,s white metal kit on a proprietry chassis, the paint job,(obviously hand painted) is on par for handmade models othe 50/60's era..nice work getting it running again :)

[@danielwielki3490]

good job , thx for resumen 👍

[@Drif19]

SIR, SIR! WE HAVE AN ENGINE THAT NEEDS HELP RIGHT NOW! IT HAS NO ENGINE, NO WHEELS, NO CHASY AND ECT, ONLY THE BOILER AND THE TENDER! Can you fiz it? 5 hours later: SMT comes back with a totally new engine like if it was just out of the box. SMT can fix ANYTHING!

[@davidballoid2118]

👍SMT, If you don't use bubblegum and twist ties on a repair, your not fixing it right. LOL! Congrats Harrison, you made it run so good the wheel fell off, it's just like brand new !🤣😂😅👍 People are a little strange painting the whole damn Loco including the motor, just to put it on a Mantel like a Trophy! 🤣🤣🤣Funny Episode I had a good laugh, thank's I needed that, Cheers! 👍

[@SMTMainline]

That's right, how else would it be legitimate? lol

[@Hacksworth_Sidings]

This loco would have left the factory in an unbuilt condition, it looks to be a white metal kit on a modified Triang chassis, as Triang used injection moulded cellulose acetate plastic, then polystyrene, whereas kit manufacturers would make white metal bodies designed for existing chassis’s, often designing them for fitting on Triang drive systems. Triang never made any 4-4-2 Atlantic locos, so this is likely using the driven part of the 4-4-0 L1 chassis with custom bogies fitted, hope this helps you learn a little more about that model :)

[@SMTMainline]

Thanks for all the info, I was guessing it was custom built.

[@Hacksworth_Sidings]

@@SMTMainline Did a little more research just now, the model looks to be a North British Railway H class 4-4-2, can’t find any info on old kits, so it’s either an extremely obscure kit or a heavily modified kitbash, which, based on the bogies and pistons, it’s likely the latter

[@drosselvonflugel4886]

paint on the wheels and motor... now that is something new.

[@JPOGers]

The locomotive is brown and considering the overall state the locomotive was in I think a good name for this locomotive would be the “Big Rolling Turd”.

[@aceact9883]

Is this a R.V. Reference

[@SMTMainline]

Seems accurate considering the condition of the parts lol

[@w.rustylane5650]

Serenity! You have a runner! W Rusty Lane K9POW in eastern Tennessee

[@railfansammy4974]

Nice work 🙂

[@SMTMainline]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@MMRails]

Over 80K subscribers!! Incredible! Will your next video be repairing the old Triang loco you ripped that motor out of? Lol. “Welllll folks, in today’s video, I’m going to try and fix this motor less Triang loco which I bought second hand. All I need is a …. motor.” “Well, it’s a been a week and low and behold I found an old Triang loco on eBay. So I’ll just take the motor from this one and..” Repeat script. 😉 Great job as always. I love how you fired up the torch with zero explanation. Why not eh?

[@SMTMainline]

Uh oh, I’ve been caught! time to throw away the evidence of the trashed locomotive now haha

[@JustinFlanigan]

great video

[@battleslug13]

Its finally happened! Yay!

[@class_31clag]

I think what this is is a locomotive kit that was made when triang was still in its early days, looks like someone rewheeled it (Romford?) And is just using a cut down princess chassis

[@SMTMainline]

According to Peter Reed the shell was made by south eastern fine cast.

[@alasdair_d_t]

Idk why but on the first test run when you took the tender off it seemed a bit aggressive, like you were mad at it or something lol.

[@Cthulhu1970]

Just one thing, NBR stands for "North British Railway", which was based in Scotland. :)

[@joallawestervelt6918]

Awesomeness!!!

[@SMTMainline]

Thanks!!

[@Secr_productions]

The class of engine is a Robinson H1 built in the 1910s to 1920s on the gnr they were all scraped in 1950 to 1960

[@naw611rules6]

Can you do a decoder install video on an old Bachmann steam engine?

[@qwincyq6412]

What could be sweeter than restoring to running condition an abused junker loco with a flea market bargain.

[@abbush2921]

The locomotive looks like a GEM product or George E Mellor product , SMT .

[@ukuleletyke]

This is an old white metal kit of a North British Railway Atlantic on a butchered Tri-ang chassis-possibly by someone like Keyser, who were very popular once upon a time. Tri-ang did make a 4-4-0, but the wheelbase on yours looks shorter, which makes me wonder if this actually uses the chassis out of the M7, with the 4-wheel bogie transposed to the front. The cylinders and rods look like they come off a Princess. Horrible gloopy looking and slightly wonky kitbashes weren’t uncommon in the ‘60s- I’m not sure why, although there was less provision for modellers then. If stripped, cleaned, tidied and repainted though, it could be a presentable little model of a rather handsome prototype.

[@johnd8892]

A GEM kit. I found more info searching for : GEM North British Railway Atlantic Class 1 ( LNER C9/C10 ) 4mm A poor kit from fifty years ago and badly built.

[@roberthubal6278]

First time i have heard of screw the mains in so much that only the flanges are touching

[@Franklewis64]

Please what is that small hand held screw diver with the bits in the handle please... Great job restoring your locomotive Awesome...

[@axdominguez5953]

That was good but it's Nice shot

[@doggerbendrailway6002]

I think it’s a H1 class

[@jordandorsett3106]

It's a LNER C10 Aka C11 (North British Railway I Aka H Class)

[@johnjephcote7636]

A Reid Atlantic from the Highland Railway (pre-1923 Grouping of railways).

[@defensematrix4500]

From tree ornament to rail riding 😮

[@juangabrielsolanoperez2929]

Muy bien 👍👏😌

[@haraldhechler3557]

That thing isn't painted, its glazed like a cake.

[@MattKonsol]

It’s kinda bad sadly although I could have hard time custom painted a locomotive right. Which I still need to work on it.

[@Cfr_Alex_1098]

Hello smt mainline love your videos and also can you get a cfr train? If not it is okay bye!

[@carlgauntletttrains3026]

Hi Harrison, it's a Triang x04 motor. Carl.

[@SMTMainline]

Yep, that's what I found at the train show.

[@trainspeer3100]

Smt can you do a video of showing all your british train?

[@ededwardson6074]

you need a puller to take offworm gears

[@jordandorsett3106]

This is the only LNER C10 Aka C11 (North British Railways I Aka H Class) on your channel a it's the Rarest one

[@normamcdonald1422]

I went on a train yesterday and it was so much fun 🎉 Yesterday 4/8/2023

[@damianousley8833]

Did he get to fix the wheel back on at the end of the video?

[@lancergameing7766]

Mainline,I have a question HOW DO YOU AFFORD THIS

[@agressive_cementbag]

lovley engine, unfortunate it is a nightmeare (both looking and mechanically 😬)

[@casstelles]

I think the comment about the loco being dropped may not be too far off. The cab looks to bent downward in the back of the locomotive. This may be more damage than just the front of the locomotive. Hopefully, nothing else was damaged too much such as the frame.

[@loona4133]

It's cool u can fix trains better then me cause I struggle to much with mine. But I do try my best to fix my trains. But I do love it trains and enthusiasm

[@SMTMainline]

I did and still do as well. No one begins as an expert lol

[@loona4133]

@@SMTMainline yeah ik. But still u manage to get them running. I envy u

[@TheEerieMaster]

I thought you threw that thing away 🤣

[@SMTMainline]

I was about ready to towards the end haha

[@joesask857]

nice

[@JBofBrisbane]

How did they paint that thing - dip it in a tin of house paint?

[@jacobgreve802]

My bet is that this kit was built by a child or teenager, that only had a basic understanding of kit building, the paint of the motor looks like it was transfer from when the kit was originally painted. All of the other details, such as the painted wheels tells me that the kit was painted when it was fully assembled, which as any model builder will tell you is a big mistake, for the reasons shown in this video. I would also guess that when the model failed to run due to the obvious, the builder just gave up on it.

[@SMTMainline]

There they didn't know or didn't care how it turned out.

[@TheNuclearAtomizer]

When he tried to run it with the tender then he got fed up and just threw it.

[@leso204]

very early triang/hornby seeing as a cast body also very early hornby coupling (1960s) , it would have been in great western green livery (GWR) not brown thats a calidonian rail livery , hope this helps ....

[@peterforden5917]

You need a remagnetiser for the magnet.

[@stephendrivick840]

Lost a wheel...that can't be good 😀

[@deltacx1059]

Would be gool if one of those used solinoids instead of a motor.

[@kaustubhponkshe6186]

@9:19... what tool u used to clean up wheels?

[@SMTMainline]

It’s a peco track cleaner

[@kevinbreaker2683]

Great 🎉🎉🎉😅

[@bryanwhat2268]

haha that thing has a lean to it's funny nice to see it run oh wheel haha still funny

[@mortythealien2783]

not the fanciest painting...

[@MattKonsol]

Yeah unfortunately it’s not the best but what the hell I bet the owner who oringally had this did alittle best as they can. I have a hard time custom painting a locomotive sadly myself which I need to work on it perfectly.

[@heatherhartman7992]

Hi smt I have a Chattanooga locomotive 0-8-0 it needs a lot of work it works but it needs tires and a smokebox store and some side rod parts I wish to get it working again I am new in the hobby

[@arrow1414]

I don't trust the positioning of the connection side rods. The steam chest (pistons) look weird, as if it is upside down, but I can't find a picture of that locomotive yet so I can't be sure.

[@SMTMainline]

Something does look a bit strange about it, like the rods are a bit too low.

[@arrow1414]

@@SMTMainline I strongly suspect that the pistons are upside down. Is it a Tri-Ang or a Hornby? In any case here is a picture of what I suspect is the prototype for the model: tinyurl.com/2x3ndbnw Notice that the guide rails for the rods on the pistons are *above* the drive wheels centerline, not below it and they are right under the running board. So I suspect strongly-but not prepared to swear it in court-that the steam chest is upside down.

[@SMTMainline]

@@arrow1414 I think it's a tri-ang however the shell was made by someone else.

[@arrow1414]

@@SMTMainline Okay a Frankenstein Loco😉 Anyway I don't know what happened before but here is the prototype of the loco I was talking about before: www.flickr.com/photos/124446949@N06/35161596442 Btw I e mailed you recently about a video you maybe interested in.

[@samadsyed4003]

Dat wheel just gave up

[@JohnSchuster-yc6dp]

THEY FORGOT TO TAKE OFF THE SHELL

[@bretteballantine2596]

You should buy prewar lionel train rough ones restore them