Lmao it’s not that bad if you rotate hips open more, but even if you aren’t flexible using your hand will help you more
@TheSymphonyofpain9 ай бұрын
@@JonThomasBJJ ❤️
@SethKBaldwin9 ай бұрын
I don't have full range of motion in my knees such that I rarely play butterfly guard because it's excruciating to put my foot to my butt. I'll definitely see how I can add this safely but I'm worried about getting collapsed.
@0b3ryn299 ай бұрын
@@SethKBaldwinyou can use the same concept of using hands to frame against leg to prevent leg drags. Requires less flexibility in the situation. I use it often
@bdupri259 ай бұрын
@@JonThomasBJJ Jon, I share this guy’s pain, haha. How about - what kind of stretching routine could get flexibility like yours or the guy demonstrating this. I’m thinking that may be like an hr a day of stretching. How did you do it?
@richardhansen41709 ай бұрын
Believe me, give this a few weeks of specific training and you will have a new perspective on the open guard, and your guard will be 100 times better than it was before you learned this. By the way, thanks for sharing and well done Espen and Jon! The way you explain this makes it so easy to understand. Great job! Great video
@Gmiyas9 ай бұрын
Great instructional! Please consider a follow up video on this topic, specifically on proper structural form to avoid injury as well as mobility/stretching to properly enable this type of framing. Thank you!
@kennethchapman1Ай бұрын
100% - this is an amazing concept and deserves a deeper dive
@ericnevitt6378 ай бұрын
This improved my guard retention immediately. Was a pleasure to learn from you last week. Going to be drilling this with the boyz tonight.
@frumby129 ай бұрын
Why have I trained SO LONG and never thought of this? One thing you did t mention… the hip and knee alignment is important to keep unhealthy pressure off the knees. It was mentioned in the context of hamstring strength, but the same position relieved torque on the knee I think.
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Yeah absolutely! Should have thought to mention that in there as well. Almost need a consistent disclaimer for all jiu jitsu videos and mobility safety lol
@conflakesroxy9 ай бұрын
Man now I know why I’ve been stretching… Time to do this
@huskylord1239 ай бұрын
I definitely want to add this to my game. I just hope my meniscus doesn't ruin the plan. Thank you for sharing this.
@thorbreakseverything18369 ай бұрын
I have been fooling with this for the last six months and just saw this. wow, very exiting all the places this can take me.
@ronaldp.vincent82262 ай бұрын
I’m starting to learn more about the importance of self frames when playing open guard.
@olegbroichenko3529 ай бұрын
Circle frame is gold!
@vladfarias9 ай бұрын
When I think you've already provided every wonderful instruction you could , you just come up with an even better one.
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Hahaha I try to not disappoint I got 3 more big ones mapped out in my head I’m excited about
@cameroon958 ай бұрын
This is honestly the best bjj piece ive seen on KZbin ever on guard. Ive been trying for years to circle my leg back when someone uses torrendo grips with very little success. This honestly has completely changed my rentation , just need to remember to get back in offence after i get my leg in . Would love a follow up video or instructional on this
@ivanivan45639 ай бұрын
game changer details, ty guys, you are best online instructors) respect from Russia!
@chuckduncan90989 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I'm still working on the concept of my body as many parts rather than one unit.
@drialoves5013Ай бұрын
this is really gonna help me recover my guard! thanks john :D
@neillangston58469 ай бұрын
My open guard has gotten so much better watching you, now I have more to implement. Nice!
@jasonlinam96458 ай бұрын
Great stuff. John is a phenomenal human. Excellent teacher. We saw this in Denver.
@chrismasseybjj9 ай бұрын
I was at Espen's seminar yesterday and his details on DLR and Berimbolo were excellent. We had a roll (it went as well as you'd expect) and he suggested this video to help with my guard. Also he was just a super cool guy.
@professor_earn9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@CauliflowerDino9 ай бұрын
Love this, will really help my game. We are lucky to have Espen doing a seminar at our gym this weekend, so I can pick his brain about this 🤘🔥🔥
@alains40503 ай бұрын
Awesome tips for the older grapplers!
@Paladin1776a9 ай бұрын
Excellent, thank you Jon!
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@kamesennin1789 ай бұрын
Excellent concept thank you so much for sharing 🙏
@kennethchapman1Ай бұрын
Watched this 3 times and then went to open mats to try this with the blue/purple belts that constantly smash me and are way superior strength wise and technique - worked twice with little strength! Thanks for such a practical tip!
@LexLupton9 ай бұрын
It’s rare that you see something that is completely novel and yet can be put into your game immediately. Thank you for this fantastic content
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
I know this is honestly one thing that instantly improved my retention so much
@zacharywong4839 ай бұрын
Fantastic details and footage to match here!
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!!
@PauloBerni6999 ай бұрын
I'm a small quite flexible 60 yo black belt and I've been using the ankle grab to circle my foot from the stacking or any semblance of a crowding position when I'm in guard in order to return it over their head and inside my opponent's shoulder, but this video introduces a more systematic paradigm in guard retention. Very well done and explained!
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Yeah I had seen small stuff with this before but this full system around it takes it to a new level!
@randymarsh62537 ай бұрын
Bro out here changing lives!
@aidywong7039 ай бұрын
love it will be using these details thank you!
@kevin-augusto9 ай бұрын
beautiful!
@ghelix3337 ай бұрын
Amazing. Thank you Jonathan
@rapp30908 ай бұрын
I will use this immediately. Thanks.
@neckbomb96939 ай бұрын
Damn, dropping that secret jitsu knowledge yet again 🙏🦾🔥😎
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
The small stuff makes all the difference!
@neckbomb96939 ай бұрын
@@JonThomasBJJ thanks man! I’ve implemented many of those small things into my game and it’s helped me tons, and also helped me understand jitsu conceptually. If you ever do a seminar in the Austin/central TX area I will be there! 🙏🦾🔥😎
@matthewchristie41589 ай бұрын
I love this technique. What a great video. Thanks for doing this, buddy.
@shabblabbat9 ай бұрын
As a distributor and seller of arthroscopes, I approve of this video.
@Farsidejunky9 ай бұрын
The ones who will be helping you sell more equipment will be the ones who don't adjust their hips for the movement they're trying to make with their legs.
@orgANGmo9 ай бұрын
@@Farsidejunky or 40yo software engineers who want to try something new. Like me.
@GASmotorsports9 ай бұрын
@@FarsidejunkyI think it’s interesting you don’t think Jiu Jitsu can destroy hip joints.
@martinmyggestik2929 ай бұрын
This is great. Another benefit is that if they manage to pass you, your inside space is already closed, so they will have a hard time establishing control.
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
100 percent
@spencebjj9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing guys!!!
@antoniyhristov9 ай бұрын
Amazing concept, never thought of it! Keep up the great content, Jon, we all appreciate it very much!
@pfdg5009 ай бұрын
Amazing, I'm going to have to start playing around with this. Thank you for sharing!
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s so addictive when you start
@alessandrofarinella47352 ай бұрын
My knee popped out just watching the first 10 seconds lol
@dennissweeney79539 ай бұрын
Will give this a try tonight!
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Hope it works well for you!
@andriyuzumaki6666 ай бұрын
What a simple and effective idea 💡
@race_allen9 ай бұрын
I'm super excited to try this. Great video.
@MikeYounes-e5d9 ай бұрын
Your videos are solid gold
@patrickdalessandri31778 ай бұрын
Great instructional! So simple a concept but effective.
@lukaszbilski53739 ай бұрын
Amazing concept. I’ve seen this done by Pato, but your explanation is on point.
@breakfastwithdragons9 ай бұрын
This was gOld 🙏🏽✨ thanks Thomas 🎉
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
You're so welcome!
@blockmuse7 ай бұрын
wonderful insights
@kellaway-15789 ай бұрын
I'm 100% going to have to start stretching
@jamesneddermeyer39849 ай бұрын
Much appreciated 🙏🌎🤙
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@Vscustomprinting9 ай бұрын
Trained it, sprained it (jk).. Cant wait to do it again..
@willieb.hardigan60919 ай бұрын
Who is this Espen guy, looks like he has got good balance
@ni1name9 ай бұрын
Great stuff! Loved this!
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@zakh18669 ай бұрын
I tore my LCL doing this and now I'm afraid 😭 - Great content though!!
@AEB-tb3om9 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree with the concept for very flexible people, but if you use this technique to be at the very end range of your flexibility, and they stack you FURTHER, I do fear that you'll pop something in your knee specifically
@Vscustomprinting9 ай бұрын
@@AEB-tb3om its a concept for everyone but people that are completely inflexible due to the framing mechanics and movement mechanics ..
@Username18981Ай бұрын
People's hips need to take the brunt of the pressure. If your gup cand move to take off the pressure you will wreck your knee.
@svatandoost9 ай бұрын
Hip Rotation and stretch is mostly in the glutes than knee
@chanbru8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@davormladinic66179 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing these details
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@alevieirareis9 ай бұрын
I had never heard anything even like that. That's why your channel is so recommended, Thomas
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s such a small idea but insanely powerful when you start using it, instantly makes a massive improvement in guard!
@supermanbeer846 ай бұрын
100% giving this a go
@ndaking9 ай бұрын
Can't wait to try these techniques.
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Hope it helps a lot!
@rollrolleat9 ай бұрын
Thank you for a great tip for recovery!! Is it possible to make damage my own leg? It looks so scaring thing.
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
I think it’s very safe if you just watch how far you push it, I have 50 plus people in gym using it who aren’t flexible. Just check your own tolerance levels
@ThinkingFramework9 ай бұрын
my knees might break😂
@Azmx9869 ай бұрын
For a potential future video I'd love to hear your thoughts on flexibility, stretching, programming of it, and why it matters.
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
I might bring a guest in to discuss!
@Raivopaa9 ай бұрын
Great stuff. I've been done this for ages. Kind of. When you're too stiff, you don't have other options than help your legs with your arms 😅
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
100 percent it’s great for non flexible people because they can put their foot in position
@bazlewis9 ай бұрын
This is pretty fantastic. A gamechanger that isn't hyperbole. I've been farting about with grabbing my leg in various ways for a bit now due to a hip injury, but without the foresight to thread that idea together into an actual guard retention concept. I'd gotten as far as, that's sore or I can't move my hip that much, grab that dumb leg and move.
@UnskilledGrappler9 ай бұрын
Movements like this make me fart too.
@Vscustomprinting9 ай бұрын
@@UnskilledGrappler this is an underutilized way to help defend. Sometimes you have to pass to prevent the pass
@ardemesa889 ай бұрын
Eddie Bravo employed similar technique in his breakthrough match vs Royler, way back in 2003
@Demonthya9 ай бұрын
ok... I need to unlock my hips
@Vscustomprinting9 ай бұрын
I find this is exactly as adversized.. My teammates also pointed out that its often easier to bring parts of your body to yourself (for bigger, less flexible people) when you opponents are pushing on you, almost like they help you..
@tvbuster9 ай бұрын
This is a creative solution but for me personally it looks like knee LCL snap city.
@seazerespiritu1379 ай бұрын
This has improved my game so much since this video came out
@JonThomasBJJ8 ай бұрын
That was the goal! Some of the best stuff doesn’t do well in the beginning but when people use it months later they see how much it changed their game
@orgANGmo9 ай бұрын
If I knee this video was coming 25 years ago, I would have studied to be a knee surgeon.
@leandroviannachagas72828 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will help me a lot
@linusji17329 ай бұрын
Sadly for me, I blew my outside ligament in a matrix attempt last year, so I will never be able or even dare to do this
@steph-30269 ай бұрын
I first saw Diego Pato show this on Flo, its still new to me so I'm glad you guys broke down this technique by concepts and applications.😄
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
I had loosely seen the idea of grabbing foot before but never really went far into how far you could take it!
@mavka.chorna9 ай бұрын
This is the first time i've heard Espen speak 😅
@rkp12229 ай бұрын
Fantastic content as always. Thanks guys
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Happy to help
@mendybaev9 ай бұрын
wow just amazing and so simple
@willrob39516 ай бұрын
this is amazing
@radicalmaverick779 ай бұрын
I just want an in depth instructional in that back take at the very end! Straight ankle, inversion, to crab ride?
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Might throw something up on second channel on this
@radicalmaverick779 ай бұрын
@@JonThomasBJJ did you make something? Thanks!
@abdelhamid66749 ай бұрын
Looks awesome I will try it in next rolls
@RodMaxdi9 ай бұрын
Guard retention instructional are definitely the most useful
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@onyxcideYT9 ай бұрын
I feel dirty… like I should’ve had to pay for this. Golden rules for guard retention
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Hahahah was hard to release this one because it’s so damn good, sometime you want to hold on to the secrets but it’s better the world has it! Now everyone got to reinvent passing
@marinradovan953911 күн бұрын
This is great. I've been working a lot on frames lately (inspired by Rafa), and this ads another dimension. How much flexibility is needed? My hip mobility is really bad
@smasher12349 ай бұрын
You know what also helps to keep your guard is being able to gold yourself like paper. Lol. But this will help me thank you
@-jack-68019 ай бұрын
So much evolution of the art happens everyday. I wonder how different jiu jitsu will be in 20-30 years.
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
It’s gonna be crazy for sure!
@tomwalker3899 ай бұрын
This WILL Change My Knees forever!!
@Vscustomprinting9 ай бұрын
Youd be surprised.. just playing around with it, its easy (easier, even!) on the knees because of all the framing
@jeffersonbarbosa50349 ай бұрын
Veri good 🙏🙏🙏
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@chrismize27389 ай бұрын
I would think of this as an attribute rather than a technique. To think I thought that rubber guard was rough on the joints😳
@JerseyDevil_RF9 ай бұрын
His knees are made of rubber! 😮
@ecady759 ай бұрын
Awesome thx for sharing
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@synthamesk9 ай бұрын
Simple but genius
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
It really is
@TheEverydayJiuJitsuPodcast9 ай бұрын
Great stuff
@fordguyfordguy8 ай бұрын
Jon, can you please go over the reverse matrix sequence Espen does at 7:14?
@MrCheatDany9 ай бұрын
Is it safe for knees? With decent mobility, isnt there risk of ACL/LCL tear?
@ArielTabak9 ай бұрын
If you have enough hip external rotation and strength throughout that range, you will be okay.
@KilljoyJiuJitsu9 ай бұрын
🤯 This is a game changer!
@Pifagorass9 ай бұрын
Genius tricks ❤ 😁
@timothylee58249 ай бұрын
Appreciate the novel content!
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
No problem happy you liked it
@dragosristici9 ай бұрын
HOLY COW
@jaredh7139 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on hip and hamstring stretches so we can try this?
@JonThomasBJJ9 ай бұрын
Will probably bring on an outside expert for stretching related stuff