The ending was tough to hear (Reaction) | Ren - Su!cIde

[@D3ADPO3TRY]

I was as hyped like everyone else about this release today, and we all knew this was going to be a heavier topic, I don't think any of us thought we would all be sharing tears openly like this. Powerful. Human.

[@Shiroar]

It felt almost wrong to be hyped for something so serious but that’s just how good Ren is. We want to experience his art. Even knowing what it was going to be about though, that ending still hit so damn hard. There was no way to be ready for that level of vulnerability and raw emotion.

[@mpho4444]

I can call it a night. The reaction that was meant to cap off this roller coaster ride I have been on since 7 pm GMT. I feel heavy watching all the emotion and empathetic loop we are on. But I am happy. There has been thousands of us talking about a censored topic on this platform. Mental health issues are hushed about and sweeped under the rug, here. This makes my continent one of the leading statistics in suicides. We in the Rencord have a lot of respect for you, friend. You are a star human being and fucking fantastic reactor ❣️

[@snakevenomv]

I appreciate your sentiments thank you. I just found the Rencord ❤

[@lauracarlson3280]

Since I was first introduced to Ren, I been hooked on watching as many reactors as possible (and I do mean MANY). While I agree that the Wolf Johnson is great, you are by far the best I’ve watched . You should have a much much higher sub count and number of views. You are going to go far once the masses stumble across your videos!! Keep up the great work!

[@alimac1469]

Agree totally.

[@snakevenomv]

I really am grateful for you saying that! It means a lot to hear that ❤

[@vivienneclarke2421]

I agree 100%

[@brandimantel5987]

I love your heart on your sleeve breakdowns of music. ❤️ Watching you share your soul makes me feel less alone in this world. REN’s new song hits like a gut punch. Thank you.

[@mandynoske5809]

Thank you for being real 😢I love your reactions ❤

[@snakevenomv]

I appreciate all of you so much! Thank you for being here ❤

[@bosbornefischer]

Thank you for your consideration of your audience. Thank you for not shying away from the emotions. Thank you for sitting with it. Thank you for sitting with us. Thank you for sitting with Ren.

[@snakevenomv]

Thank YOU for being here ❤

[@elevown]

Thanks for honoring this raw emotional song with your own real emotions and being willing to share them like Ren did. Isnt it ashame such powerful important songs as this could never be played on the radio? I think radio really diminishes what music can be on it.

[@snakevenomv]

❤

[@drealyn1486]

This song is so hard. That he blames himself, still, might be the hardest part. Thank you for reacting to this. I hope that you know that you aren't crying alone.

[@snakevenomv]

Thank you 🙏❤

[@tacooktc40]

I've never heard any track in my 50 years with so much rawness and vulnerability. This had me sobbing by the end of it, I felt his pain, we felt his pain. I just want to cuddle him and tell him he's gonna be OK. Rest in peace Joe ❤️

[@Colleen_OH]

My heart breaks for Ren. Even though his brain knows it is not his fault, his heart will always think that it is. ❤️ to you SVV.

[@snakevenomv]

Much love 🙏❤

[@craigmitchell604]

I love the way you love. I am so glad you reside in our village. You are one of the most human humans that I have ever seen. And I cry with you.

[@snakevenomv]

🙏❤ I appreciate you

[@alexiaspaedt-mcintosh5311]

Great reaction and truly heart felt. Was great seeing you in the chat today. This song pulled my heart out of my chest and shattered it. I was sobbing by the end of it. Ren has given such a powerful and raw song. I have cried during it and every reaction so far. It hits so hard. Lots of love to everyone and please if you are in dark spot please reach out for help. RIP Joe.

[@snakevenomv]

Great seeing you as well! Thank you for your support, much love 🙏

[@denalinde]

I actually scheduled my day to be crying nonstop. Figured it’d trigger memories just from the topic alone. 😢💜

[@noorieiversen]

The sentence "I see the world through Fibonacci sequences and double dutch" is a metaphorical statement that can be interpreted in several ways. Here's one possible interpretation: The Fibonacci sequence is a series of numbers in which each number is the sum of the two preceding ones, usually starting with 0 and 1 (0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, and so forth). In many ways, the Fibonacci sequence is associated with patterns, growth, and principles of beauty found in nature and the arts. Therefore, "seeing the world through Fibonacci sequences" could mean the speaker has a structured, mathematical, or patterned approach to understanding the world, or that they appreciate the underlying natural principles and harmonies that can be found in many aspects of life. Double dutch is a game played with two jump ropes turning in opposite directions simultaneously. It's often associated with childhood, teamwork, rhythm, coordination, and a degree of complexity. So, "seeing the world through double dutch" could mean that the speaker views the world as a place requiring coordination, rhythm, teamwork, and the ability to navigate complex situations. It might also suggest a playful or nostalgic view of the world, as double dutch is a game often played by children. Combined, the sentence could suggest that the speaker sees the world in a way that appreciates both the complex, patterned beauty found in natural principles (like the Fibonacci sequence), and the rhythmic, coordinated complexity of human interaction and play (like in double dutch). The speaker might be expressing a perspective that blends a deep appreciation for both structured mathematical patterns and the chaotic, playful patterns found in human activities.

[@wexfordgirl1]

To the British Double Dutch is a saying ie 'hes talking Double Dutch' meaning hes incomprehensible. I think that what hes referring to personally.

[@scottstroh2564]

I think the reference to fibonacci sequences is him saying he still goes back to that past trauma. Like how you have to look back to add the numbers to get the next number in the sequence idk

[@scottstroh2564]

And maybe the double Dutch is referring to how he has two opinions spinning through his head like the ropes. He has one side that's telling him it's his fault, and one that's saying it isnt

[@DJQUAZER]

A lot of people with mental health issues actually know and deal with the Fibonacci Sequence, it is a mathematical term for number sequences with infinite possibilities, the same could be addressed within word play, saying one word and making connections between that word then others and so on, imo this is where the double Dutch comes in, words, connections and then becoming incomprehensible, without making much sense in the end.

[@NadineLaFrance-pf5rq]

this my 4 time watch this today I am going to cry again ❤❤

[@snakevenomv]

❤

[@noorieiversen]

Sea sick can also be See sick... he perceives sick everywhere in the world.

[@Danishbassist]

Ren gets better and bigger

[@craigmitchell604]

I returned to your channel to watch again. I needed your deep humanity again. You are the best reactor for me. You are so special. You give us a very real place to cry together…and to celebrate together. Thank you again.

[@snakevenomv]

I'm graciously appreciative of you saying that. Thank you, you're welcome here anytime 🤟

[@adriandinu5953]

THE PIG IS BACK!!! 😂 To all of you who reads this know you have the strength to go through anything that's thrown in your way! In my low moments I'm watching your reactions my man, there's something in your way of being, something clean and I'll be around to support this journey. Thank you for all you do, let's stay strong together, form a great support community! 💪

[@snakevenomv]

Thank you for being here! I'm happy to help in any way I can. We're stronger together! 👊🤟

[@kristolponder8312]

How can any human with even the slightest bit of empathy in their heart not cry listening to this vulnerability, rawness, and sheer pain pouring through those lyrics? Tell the people in your lives that you love them as much as possible! Ren has singlehandedly broke us to help us rebuild our troubled souls... he's a masterful lyricist and a necessary artist the world needs desperately! Emotional reaction as it should've been.

[@gerda_g]

Ren made whole internet cry today..

[@Shiroar]

The recently added ending really completed the song. And made it absolutely heart wrenching. Beautiful vulnerability and song. Ren is doing something very important with his art by voicing things we don’t talk about enough. And he is bringing us together as humans that feel empathy and share similar emotions. We relate. We are less alone.

[@sciaticsfletcher]

It's alright to cry, it's human. Proves we are not dead inside. Cheers brother.

[@snakevenomv]

Much love friend 🤟❤

[@noorieiversen]

I've watched this so many times that my eyes are puffy ❤❤❤

[@Jason_xofilos]

What is amazing is how vulnerable Ren was at when he wrote this and created this video plus currently releasing to it all of us. 2nd is Ren’s loss of his childhood when he lost his innocence and feeling of immortality. He reminds me of the Maestro Tuomas Holopainen who composed most of Nightwish songs, poetry in his lyrics, and music. One theme Tuomas has is Dead Boy meaning a loss of childhood. Finally, while emphasizing the pain Ren’s friend Joe was going through also showing how hurt he was by the choice his friend Joe made along with the guilt of just possibly missing getting to Joe in time to save him or even to say goodbye plus Joe’s body was never found for closure. In other words, the choices one makes affects more then oneself. As Aurora has sung ‘Let the River Run’.

[@jamesdoherty6558]

raw, very real, and so powerful by ren, man o man

[@williammaddox6363]

This one really broke me. I’m certain that this will help so many. Thank you for your reactions.

[@snakevenomv]

Much love mate 🤟

[@Lou-xq9br]

#Ren ❣️

[@snakevenomv]

❤

[@Maggsreacts82]

❤this song hit us all hard I definitely didn’t think I was going to break down like I did 😞 today is my dad’s birthday he passed 5 years ago not far after my birthday and I seriously just relived so many thing’s listening to his music… my father was a singer song writer and was also in a band back in the 60’s-70’s he taught all of us how to express ourselves through music! !!!!!This is it!!!! I wish he was here to witness this moment in music history! Rens gift of storytelling through his art has brought a community of people together who are non judgmental, kind, considerate,compassionate, and supportive! We are lifting each other up instead of treading over other to get to the top of a meaningless game of popularity and wealth. Life is so much more than that and I seriously feel like this is what is going to change the world! This human commonality ❤ we are all human as he says in *Hi Ren * and the more we learn that we are all trying to survive on the same planet as a race of humans we will be better off! Love your insight into some of the lyrics you made me see it from different angles❤

[@snakevenomv]

Thank you for the passion in your message. Thank you for being a part of all of this! Happy birthday to your Dad 🙏❤

[@wexfordgirl1]

The RNLI is our Coastguard but they are a charity staffed by volunteers and are funded entirely by donations. No government money. Therefore this money will be very much appreciated and well used.

[@charleenk71]

Thanks for this reaction. Tears were flowing

[@aNomadicSasquatch]

Was good seeing you at the premier. You delivered on this reaction! Took me 4-5 passes over that last part just to be able to absorb it all, my mind kept drifting on his words. Knew i might crack, but this freaking broke me down. Sure felt better after though.

[@snakevenomv]

Good seeing you as well! Thank you for being here. You know what they say, better out than in 🙏

[@davidgoodman3458]

Suicide doesn't end the pain, your only moving it..

[@snakevenomv]

Absolutely!

[@helenajrgensen3157]

I feel that Ren always hits me in the heart, with his ability to make me feel... With his ability to put words and music to feelings that have otherwise been locked up. He makes me cry, in sympathy with him, with myself and with others. Thanks for the huge gesture and his incredible ability

[@Jivansings]

I heard this walking to work and had to pause it afraid some stranger would see how much it moved me. It’s seems at every moment that he is so abundant, so spontaneous, so daring in his passion, so full of surprise, that his work will never be in need of defense. He writes from life itself, not above it, and that’s why we’ll give him our love.

[@BorderlineWarriorPrincess]

Thank you for sharing this. What's so beautiful is that Joe has lived on through Ren and his music. Thousands of people across the World know who Joe is and are thinking of him. What a beautiful tribute from Ren.

[@megandrehr3420]

The ending broke me. I just hope Ren feels a huge hug from all of us

[@tinadunbar4577]

Ren has the power, and he's sharing it with us, so we can all open up together. RIP Joe and my amazing brother Mike ❤ love you everyone

[@dbmyrrha]

Love you, man. Thank you for being vulnerable, too. Every time a man cries publicly, he makes it safer for another man to do the same. Hugs.

[@snakevenomv]

Much love friend 🤟

[@philk9227]

Thank you for posting this raw and authentic reaction. That shows a real strength. Ren had us all in tears with this one

[@Peacetrain66]

I have watched at least 10 reactions and cried every time. So beautiful and painful at the same time.😢

[@ShrankTheFirst]

I feel like I'm discovering Ren in order of heart-wrenchiness. Hi Ren -> Tales -> Chalk Outlines -> Freckled Angels -> How To Be Me -> Crutch -> Su!c*de (add Depression, Dominoes and Dear God somewhere along that line). Every step of the way, after watching countless reactions and crying every time, I reach a point where I'm able to sing along without choking up and think that maybe I'm ready for what comes next. I was not.

[@snakevenomv]

I feel that ❤

[@Apollo.Rising]

I know exactly what you mean. When I saw Hi Ren, it cracked open my own 'plaster cast' I've had on for years, I was suddenly feeling things again after being completely numbed to any emotion for so long. I spent the next month or so going through his catalogue in depth and taking a weird pleasure in the tears I was able to cry listening to them. It was almost disappointing as they became so familiar that they didn't hit quite so deeply. I was beginning to worry that the emotional effect his music had on me was going away. Holy crap this song has made me cry 10 times harder than anything else. I feel like Ren is teaching me how to feel all the nooks and crannies of a rich emotional life and each track expands it more and more. It's been beautiful to experience.

[@hollyryalsgrubb1273]

Tenderness and hugs to all

[@snakevenomv]

🤟❤

[@craigmitchell604]

I wonder if the first part of this masterpiece is Ren reciting all the stories, all the different thoughts that poison the brains of those who ultimately choose to die. And the second part of this masterpiece shows the devastation reaped on those left behind who will miss you if you jump.

[@snakevenomv]

Great interpretation!

[@heikebroy8692]

I've cried with you❤❤❤

[@snakevenomv]

❤

[@braca977]

Yes, Ren always leaves us speechless. Thank you for this genuine reaction !

[@Jamedalamus]

Out of all the Ren reactors I have watched (a I-probably-need-a-12-step-program absurd amount), I swear you are my favorite. Thank you for representing all of us.

[@snakevenomv]

I graciously thank you for saying that. For real thank you! 🤟

[@MalcolmMXTaylor]

A great reaction video, showing your emotions the same as Ren did in the song is how this song will save lives! Speaking about these things instead of bottling them up inside our 'masculine' exterior shows the path out of these dark situations

[@sicmuvva11]

Tears streaming down my face, what a beautiful soul this artist is.❤‍🩹

[@deepdragon1757]

You start this video hitting hard, for a hard hitting video.

[@kevinodell8261]

WOW to REN. Toughest thing yet. So precious. GOD KEEP HIM SAFE.

[@marlonwilson647]

Loved your raw reaction. I don't know how many times I've watched this song today but I cry everything, especially knowing the back story to it

[@Colleen_OH]

Same here. 😥

[@grannymegrannyiam6886]

Thank you for being you! You are my favorit reactor!❤

[@snakevenomv]

Wow, thank you so much! ❤

[@alimac1469]

Masterpiece that's personal yet resonates with so many of us. Guilt and sorrow float They may drift away for a day But they always return.

[@MimiMyself]

Raw…beautiful….purity

[@Tessimistic420]

🎶🎶🎧🎶🎶 "Joined at the soul with a pair of headphones" ❤️

[@EvieIvy0ver7]

I absolutely LOVE Ren's music! But I'm in absolute awe of the way you catch EVERYTHING in the music AND the videos. You truly appreciate his art, as we all do. Thank you for being you SnakeVenom. Not afraid to let the music move you 😘🤞🏼 @RenMakesMusic you should listen to SnakeVenom's reacts, he feels every note you sing and play ❤

[@rickreynolds2140]

Some advice, always have tissues handy when listening to Ren , me I have a big roll of bounty , (paper towels)

[@mickjuul1977]

You can't stop re-thinking what could have been done differently.. And it`s not a choice.. Its just there all the time.. What if.. Great reaction.. Shit i love Ren

[@aimeekeel]

Such a good song, so heavy but so important to share. Thank you for sharing reacting.

[@jenniferedwards9005]

Great reaction. This is a great song. The end is hard though.. I think for me when he calls himself a jerk, it breaks me every time.. I can't even imagine..

[@Emilie-one]

This one broke my heart. Ren crying in the end was too much for me. “I still can’t find the anger, all I find is missing you” 😢 💔 Thanks for being honest with your emotions and reaction to this.

[@xdaniedx]

We never met but I love you my brother. And anyone else that reads this I love you too. We've all been blessed and cursed with fellings and emotions and we're all trying to figure out what this existence really means that we we've been involuntarily thrown into. A bunch of imperfect beings on a spinning ball of mud circling a star as we hurdle through space. Be kind to one another and most importantly be kind to yourself.

[@snakevenomv]

I'm grateful you said that. I love you too friend ❤🙏

[@ciscomoto]

Beautiful and heartfelt. Thank you

[@stuartturkington826]

Brilliant real reaction 😮

[@frodespein8311]

Hi Snake. Your reactions never ceases to amaze me. Your bar breakdowns are great and you never refrain from showing your feelings when the song strikes that chord. You've quickly become one of my favorite reactors and I hope more people will find your channel. Keep up the great work!

[@snakevenomv]

Thank you so much! Seriously thank you for the support, it means a lot!

[@garettkilgore748]

That was beautiful my guy🙏🏼

[@snakevenomv]

🙏❤

[@capnmorgan867]

I liked right away b/c you were sitting on 666 likes. That couldn't stand. YW Oh, and great reaction as well. Glad I subbed recently. That hour of J&S went by fast!

[@snakevenomv]

Thank you for that 😅 and thanks for being here! 🤟

[@lillyvanpug]

Going through these reactions and feeling the love, support and empathy in the comments is healing. So much positivity and comfort going around. This song is heavy but it opens up a conversation that is needed. Lots of love to you 🖤

[@snakevenomv]

Truth. Much love to you as well ❤

[@KattVonTease]

Iv watched 20+ reactions to this video, and iv cried everytime, thought i was getting stronger but you just made me cry again, loved your reaction ❤ keep up your awsome content ❤

[@snakevenomv]

Thank you 🙏❤

[@LHartman-gj7dl]

I think I cry more with each reaction to this. Powerful, powerful stuff. 🖤🖤

[@vivienneclarke2421]

I'm gonna say it again.......Ren brought the internet to tears yesterday. We all shed some tears together. And remembered his friend Joe. I myself,while not actively trying to end it,didn't care if I did. I crashed my truck into my ex's doing 70mph and just didn't care. I should've died that night. Walked away with a broken finger and a busted kneecap. Thank GOD. My son,when he was 24,made this attempt. I was home to stop him,but he then spent 10 days in a mental health facility. I still have PTSD from that night. He's now almost 30,married to the most incredible woman,and getting paid well to do a job he loves. It could have all changed in the blink of an eye tho. I lost my 13 year old son to kidney failure 12 years ago. If my older son had succeeded,well,I think it would've been more than I could take. He Shines now,and I'm so incredibly proud of him..... Thank you for such an insightful reaction❤

[@snakevenomv]

Thankful you are here with us. Much love to you and yours ❤🙏

[@jteeitup99]

Anyone with any empathy at all cried. R.I.P. Joe

[@nedheadwyoming]

We are adding our tears to that ocean. You are a kind and sensitive soul, and I always want to hear your insightful take.

[@snakevenomv]

I appreciate you being here to listen ❤

[@titntin5178]

Thank you man. Ren exposes his heart like no other and for those of us with understanding and empathy, its a difficult listen. But its important for us to understand and learn how to grieve with Ren. Thanks for being real ❤

[@noggyplays2822]

traditionally the samurai used a tanto for seppuku not a sword though.

[@snowlmaoo]

Instant like for suicide being the first thing you talk about thank you

[@rudyb.]

My tears flowed today…

[@FullMetalcoreJojo]

I'm still shaking. I should have avoided it for longer. Too raw. I'll be fine, I have to be. Edit: Please take care of yourself... I can see it hits close to home for you, too. Don't read the articles about Joe. There's a certain detail that now just makes me burst into tears at the mention of his name.

[@snakevenomv]

Much love to you ❤

[@FullMetalcoreJojo]

@SnakeVenomV All the love and then some to you too! I could imagine doing several heavy reactions in a short succession could become overwhelming for yourself, too. Whatever way you steer this channel, it'll work out. You've created a lovely community that share your depth and passion! 🤌🏻❣️

[@FullMetalcoreJojo]

@@snakevenomv ^^

[@shawnjones7944]

If I could like this a thousand time I would , new subscriber , I can tell you care so much for anyone , hello from Newfoundland

[@skydiveshane1]

Beautiful heartfelt reaction dude! Yes the world loves Ren, but the world also loves you…🙏

[@snakevenomv]

Thank you for that, much love to you 🙏

[@TobiiRheaStarr]

And that’s me crying again. I just can’t cope seeing men get emotional and the end of this song always gets me going 😢🖤

[@adriandospia9452]

thank you for your heartfelt reaction

[@snakevenomv]

❤🙏

[@snsktt]

You are really good at dissecting songs!

[@globally123]

You have got a lot of heart mate,peace and love to you.

[@snakevenomv]

❤🙏

[@angiepanaexx]

Beautiful reaction, thankyou for being so honest and raw. 💔💔💔

[@snakevenomv]

🙏❤

[@arklilbro]

This is hard, but he says the live version is coming in a couple of weeks.

[@marithibaut7868]

OMG a live version? 😳😭

[@arklilbro]

@@marithibaut7868 yep, in just a few weeks.

[@CristyB66]

I love you all 🫶🏻 stay strong 💕

[@Dstinii]

Freckled Angels hits me hard. I listened twice and bawled heavily both times. It triggers me more than anything after losing my husband 7 years ago to terminal cancer. This new one upsets me when I see others so torn up by it. Ren has the ability to make people feel stuff and he expresses his thoughts and feelings so expertly. I don't think I've ever experienced things like this before through music. BTW, this is DEZtini from the other day!

[@snakevenomv]

Deztini sorry I didn't reply to your comment sooner, I was just looking back through them and found this. I appreciate your openness and I'm sorry to hear of the loss of your husband. I hope you've been well friend, I know you hang around the stream occasionally even if ya don't say anything lol. I haven't been able to listen to Freckled Angels one time without crying. Much love to you Dez ❤

[@jessicafisher6979]

subbed just because of the MTG boxes.

[@ammocandoit]

It doesn't get easier the 15th time either 😢

[@dawnblaynee7983]

Hugs All Round. Much love and respect from The UK

[@snakevenomv]

🙏❤

[@mary-katherineedie460]

I watched this mins after it posted but after watching i just wasnt in a place to comment.... this song wrecked me but i knew that it was going to. I lost my dad to suicide at 13... we didnt have a relationship... he hadnt been in my life for years... i still spent years blaming myself... i thought if i had just tried harder to have a relationship with him hed still be here....but in time i did realize i was a fucking kid!! It wasnt my fault! I swore to myself i would NEVER put anyone thru that kind of pain!! However.....i was 17 or 18 and i almost broke my vow.... at the last i sec, i stopped and got help!! It wasnt easy and it took work but i made it thru. I TRULY WISH everyone who falls into that deep dark empty hole saw that there taking your own life ISNT THE ONLY OPTION!!! ❤ Thank you for your reaction. The raw emtion you show is what people need to see. We should never have to hide or be ashamed of showing our feelings. ❤

[@snakevenomv]

Thank you for becoming as strong as you are and helping others by putting your message here! I respect your openness and appreciate your support. ❤ Much love to you

[@grannymegrannyiam6886]

I’m an old lady, I could have been your grandma. And if I was your gran I would take you on my lap, cry with you, dry your tears and try to comfort you! You are so genuin in all your reactions, don’t ever try to be other than yourself! ❤️

[@snakevenomv]

❤🙏

[@BorisMinkov]

I like d-gray man theme.

[@francesdoll4039]

So that completed the song.

[@johnblackwell3580]

damn.... that's tough to hear...i can relate.. cheers

[@snakevenomv]

❤🙏

[@eveline5858]

Very good job Sir, I listen to you every time! Merci pour tout

[@snakevenomv]

Merci beaucoup mon ami 🤟 I appreciate your support

[@reynamoyer2379]

I am right there with you

[@johnaspinall1254]

Wow, stunning reaction Snake, we all feel so moved by his beautiful words and we do not even know Joe. A truly moving piece of work. We are blessed to be living Rens work first hand

[@snakevenomv]

🙏❤

[@peekaboosue]

I too cried............ Again

[@GW-kf1be]

❤❤❤