Snapdragon 8 Elite vs A18 PRO - Performance is CLOSER than you think!

[@MattTalkTech]

Do you think Apple should be WORRIED with the Gains that Qualcomm are making with the Snapdragon?

[@TheJugster1]

Yes

[@JoseLopez-m5i]

Posibbly

[@mamache2028]

Probably

[@louisnk9914]

I returned my iPhone 16 pro max , it was buggy and overheating , apple store employees suggested a refund or send to fix so I got a refund , plus intelligence isn't even coming to my region for the foreseeable. Looking forward to these SD 8 elite phones !!!!!!

[@MattTalkTech]

@@louisnk9914 Ooo dear, sorry to hear that

[@Warman_itd]

software + hardware sync is what really matters.

[@MattTalkTech]

Very true! Android has layers and layers of software and everything on top

[@tryingmann3458]

Excuses excuses. Android has terrific Software + Hardware sync already.

[@elivelive]

You guys find every reason to support apple. That's nice😂

[@asvphios9996]

This is good news, Apple need to get their shit together, I’m sick of seeing only 10% improvements.

[@alperwolfie]

Yeah they've been SLACKING FOR 3 YEARS, ARE THEY ALL 90 YEARS OLD OR SOMETHING? 👴👵🧓🧓🧓🧓🧓

[@christianr.5868]

Can’t wait for 8 Elite handhelds

[@MattTalkTech]

I am intrested to see what they are like

[@FooDandDrinkk]

@@MattTalkTechMaybe, that could lead Apple to push itself further. All in all, we as consumers gonna benefit from that.

[@BobMcBurger1]

I definitely like the greater competition. Would drive Apple to push harder. But it’ll be a back and forth battle. The next Snapdragon could be faster and then the next bionic chip will overtake that one. So on and so forth.

[@MattTalkTech]

Exactly what I am hoping for!!

[@funni387]

The guy who designed the 8 elite were the designer of the Apple A series chips, Qualcomm really steal members like in a video game clan 💀

[@-Blue-_]

​@@funni387and those people worked in Intel before apple so apple also knows how to steal 😂😂

[@logicalpolice]

Apple has ZERO reasons to worry. They have a devoted fanbase of brand loyalists who will happily support them.

[@Lazy-kv4kb]

I'm guessing loyalists is code for sheep

[@MattTalkTech]

Very true!

[@lastofadyingbreed5526]

Agreed but that's why they are no longer innovating, instead offer minimal upgrades and recycle the same parts with the same prices They were ahead in CPU performance but now they lost that too. So what is apple holding the crown at? Android OS is getting better in os optimisations before you know it they'll be as good in os fluency..

[@Kostofer]

I wonder if thats true for majority, i use Apple devices but not because I love the brand, I don't care about the brand and I am ready to switch and never look back if there will be serious competitor. I tried Arm based windows laptops and real life performance and stability is unfortunately not even close to first generation of apple silicon. Hope that will change in the future!

[@Weirdo_on_yt724]

​@@Kostofer were talking about phones ☝️🤓

[@VishalSingh-cg3pd]

All that Multitasking capabilities with all that power now that's a great combination for Android.

[@lowkeygaming4716]

Competition is always good for consumers and Qualcomm makes it more exciting. With this processor the Samsung Dex will be a really good portable desktop PC now

[@jbm9576]

Twice the amount of cores but not that much more in performance, it would be good to see an apples to apples comparison ie same amount of cores memory etc… Anyway well done in catching up with apple as good competition is needed.

[@jbm9576]

You’re move next apple…

[@Coconutgl]

Apple in panic? if Apple really care gpu performance, Apple would not always use slower ram to reduce the cost.

[@MattTalkTech]

Very true

[@sivavarma111]

I personally domt care about the performance of a mobile chip at some point there will be OS bottlenecks; for a mobile chip I actually care about efficiency how much battery improvements does the new chip provide

[@MattTalkTech]

Exactly my thinking! loads of a layers down to the chip

[@gregorybolivar5712]

L🔥T... Can't wait to see the adaptation in: ANDROID GAMING HANDHELD DEVICES... 2024 -2025

[@niveZz-]

please refer to geekerwan cpu and gpu efficiency curves 3:25 no the improvements comes from microarchitectural changes in the cores itself and more cache they have been using 8 cores since ages however an induvidual core on the a18p is still more efficient but since they only use 6 cores and qc uses 8 they can just run each core a lower frequency which is more efficient because the voltage-frequency curve is not linear

[@BroHazeman]

That's why ARM suing Qualcomm because they so scared with the Snapdragon 8 Elite power efficiency ❤❤❤

[@ShubhamYadav-et2rz]

The only thing we need from our phone processors are efficiency and better thermals The performance is plenty enough but the phone heats up like crazy while gaming

[@niveZz-]

that's because of the efficiency with more aggresive thermals you sacrifice on efficiency

[@ChesterFoster]

I’ll stick to my iPhone. The A18 Pro is the perfect balance of Performance and efficiency.

[@MattTalkTech]

Yup, I still love the performance, perfect for my needs

[@PopMusic911]

It's just sad that Apple couldn't add anti reflecting coating on their screen which would have made a huge difference and they're delaying their apple A.I until the end of the year + some other features coming next year in 2025 ! .. little bit too late to the game already - should have launched with A.I they were promoting. .. makes me wonder which one is really going to care for the customer ..

[@fdgdfgdfgdfg3811]

not really ,snapdragon 8 is as efficient as apple a18 pro and when rooted you can undervolt gpu and if becomes even better, snapdragon gpu they always put way too much voltage in them.

[@lastofadyingbreed5526]

Give credit where it's due...they beat apple in multicore performance, give em their credit

[@jasontgil1]

@@lastofadyingbreed5526the snapdragon has 2 extra cores, sure it beat it but….

[@danielrand775]

I mean let’s see what’s gonna happen with Qualcomm chips since the trouble with Arm. This can potentially be very bad for Qualcomm, but also windows laptops and mobile devices. That being said, this new gen Snapdragon 8 gen 4 seems to be pretty damn powerful in which iPhones can’t compete with. I hope Arm and Qualcomm comes up with a settlement!

[@mayankbhaisora2699]

This is very good news for us customers. I know Apple can give us more performance but they always hold back just because no one caught up to them but now they will have to go all for their next chip, they will have to give performance as much as they can put in that chip. Till now they always held up some performance gains for upcoming years but not anymore.

[@-Blue-_]

And you think Qualcomm will sit quietly 😂😂😂 they have technology to create chips on par with apple

[@protaginets]

The problem with the Apple A series chips is that they had a pro that optimized their chips. Since they lost him, the only fix Apple has was more cores and smaller processes. They have not actually made any meaningful changes to the processor cores since their designer left. Of course Apple could toss in a couple more performance corres and a half dozen efficiency cores and blow the competition away, but it's not making the cores any better. Course, the Qualcom processor might have active cooling in their benchmarks, like Microsoft did with the CoPilot laptops. And when they talk about the better power savings, what is that compared to? 45% power efficiency compared to what?

[@Patrikch100]

Not only Qualcomm, but also MediaTek is getting better. I really do consider to switching to Android with the upcoming phone with 8 Elite or MediaTek Dimensity 9400, like vivo X200 Pro, Oppo Find X8 Pro or OnePlus 13. The ColorOS 15 already have better animation the iOS, and viv once again, the best camera phone.

[@Sacto1654]

Maybe--if the phone manufacturer is willing to put in a decent cooling system for the SoC and put in a 5,000-plus mAh battery pack. You know the Samsung Galaxy S25 phones will have to be this way.

[@gabe6959]

The chip doesn’t matter if it is underutilized by the OS and app devs. Which is an issue on both iOS and Android. Most people use their phones for texting, calling, and social media. Graphics power doesnt matter when theres no good games. We dont even have ARM support for alot of games on PC.

[@edk1124]

Well, there are some AAA games on ios already.

[@thor-negs-superman]

​@@edk1124 and Android can easily emulate AAA games

[@fdgdfgdfgdfg3811]

@@thor-negs-superman not really ,only snapdragon soc can emulate pc games .

[@k.j.3835]

I like that the chips are getting significantly better. I think this past year is going to cause Apple to innovate and stop lagging with updates. Apple is too focused on giving people a reason to buy each year over continuously pushing out tech advancements. Apple delays updates to give people a reason to update the following year and I think that lag is starting to get to them. At this point, they need to put it all out on the table before they end up like Black Berry.

[@michaelkaliski7651]

All the alleged performance gains can be achieved by reducing the die size of the chips. Apple are not actually behind in any way because making chips smaller is technically possible and automatically gives power consumption and performance gains. The main consideration is chip yield per wafer and how much they need to charge to maintain the same profit margins. Performance only needs to be good enough to satisfy the target user market while giving the best return on any investment in developing any new chips.

[@outofredbullagain5820]

Snap it up like a 🐉! I've personally been very satisfied with the Snapdragon chip in my devices. So this should truly be awesome.👏

[@Funfactthisisahandle]

the problem is- snapdragon chips have a tendancy to never last very long after that generation, also there will be barely any android smartphones that are compatible so

[@MattTalkTech]

We will have to wait and see

[@christianr.5868]

Steam is working on proton for ARM. Steam could end up on phones at some point. At least android ones, apple would never let steam on their app store

[@debojitmandal8670]

Wht do u mean plus give me ur source

[@Funfactthisisahandle]

@@debojitmandal8670 well, literally only flagship Android will get it and there won’t be many models that take advantage of its power… for example Samsung will only use it on the ultras so it is pretty limited audience

[@debojitmandal8670]

@@Funfactthisisahandle but u said not last very long I am asking the meaning of it bcs as per my knowledge they really perform well even after 4 years

[@dukedizzy]

Apple doesnt have to worry, if they introduced a flip phone from the 90s, their fans would still buy it and say they are minimalists.

[@noufiyamol7615]

and your people really need need a18 pro in android. no way

[@dukedizzy]

@@noufiyamol7615 i really dont understand what you mean by that

[@NguyenDucKhiem-y1w]

​@@dukedizzyhe means android fans still want the a18 pro in their android device

[@-Blue-_]

​@@NguyenDucKhiem-y1wwhy do we want because 8 elite is more powerful chip than the A18 pro

[@NguyenDucKhiem-y1w]

@@-Blue-_ yeah

[@jitu5923]

To me what matters is optimisation.

[@Youtubeuseritis]

Hmmm maybe we will need to upgrade again

[@JuliusKonrad]

That is some shit GPU Graph Scaling. Why not make it in any sense of the word "scaled"?

[@ThemePro24]

Nonsense 😂😂😂

[@AbdulHayee1111]

It seems that Qualcomm snapdragron chipsets are giving a tough time to the apple's manufactured chipsets...But the matter of fact is that apple will make an impressive come back ❤

[@brentsmithline3423]

Love the competition

[@MattTalkTech]

Same here!

[@priyanshu1667]

Single core scores are still higher in A18 Pro and it reaches Multicore scores of 9000 and that's with 6 cores. Snapdragon has a marginal increase of 10,000 which is still behind Apple's M4's 14,000. I think Apple is fine where they at. Snapdragon has more cores so it ranks higher.

[@MattTalkTech]

True but even in single core... A18 Pro is only a little higher. Also the fact that Qualcomm are claiming a 45% battery gain with all this performance. Even if turn out to be say 30-35% instead, it does mean that it is ahead of apple. Apple need to be showing the lead in raw performance on everything not catching up no matter if it means more cores or less. Also you cannot compare the M4 to this scenario... The M4 is a MacBook/PC chip, not a phone chip

[@debojitmandal8670]

And that gain is because of using arm v9 with SME without it A18 Pro will score around 3200 to 3300

[@priyanshu1667]

@@MattTalkTech true,I agree with you, but considering how these chips will be used in Android Tablets it's somewhat comparable. But most importantly what my point was, that Apple knows how to make stronger chips, if they apply the same thought to their phones next year they might be even more ahead, especially since it'll be a 2nm process.

[@ShreyanshSingh-ht9yc]

But better than M2 chip

[@Eggk1_]

X elite 84-100 is getting 15900

[@cheekster777]

Thanks Matt.

[@MattTalkTech]

No problem!

[@VedaVoyager]

Aww! But I heard Elite is becoming too hot!!!

[@MattTalkTech]

Nope, in fact Xiaomi have even said that this new chip is 9c less at heat at top speed than the 8 Gen 3

[@bruxi78230]

@@MattTalkTech ----- It's not real until it actually ships in a Samsung Galaxy. Qualcomm is famous for doing wacky tests with laboratory chips that turn out to be not real. Check it out again in February when it ships. More importantly just making the chip is step 1. Apple is going to sell 300 million high-end chips in iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Samsung will only sell around 25 million. Without massive sales what Qualcomm is doing is not sustainable and there is no one that will make massive sales except Apple.

[@VedaVoyager]

@@MattTalkTech thank you

[@FARSIDE0_0]

Some source says that it reached over 90°C even in the underclocked variant

[@-Blue-_]

​@@FARSIDE0_0and you are believing that 😂😂😂 no wonder people on internet are just 🤡🤡

[@SHODQMON]

The Apple A15 chips in iPhone 13, also known as the 'life cell' or 'Bionic', deliver 50 per cent faster performance and 40 per cent better graphics performance than the competition 🤼‍♂ The name 'Bionic' was chosen to reflect the impressive capabilities of the device💾 The Apple device has a bright future ahead of it and will be a source of profit for Apple.Thank you 🎞

[@lecture7935]

People be saying: Apple doesn't innovative. The question is, why should they be innovative if people are willing to buy anything from them. Remember, R&D costs a lot of money...

[@mil546]

Thank you.

[@debojitmandal8670]

Antutu you cannot compare between Android and IOS like geekbench

[@petilee1]

Remember Apple’s slogan: Think different.

[@user-BigOrangeCat]

Is it the actual data or projections?

[@akshaysahu8599]

It’s good to have a healthy competition but I don’t think any one can come closer to hardware and software integration like Apple …

[@LakithaSomirathne]

the only way apple can pull this off is by adding 12 cores and 2nm on the A19 PRO.

[@MattTalkTech]

Never will happen! Your battery life would be about 1/3 it is now. Having cores like a M series, means a bigger chip so would take more space inside phone. So the battery would have to be smaller. Then with the extra cores like in the M series, this would drain your battery even more. It is why the iPad Mini does not have the M inside of it, as the battery life would be awful!

[@LakithaSomirathne]

@@MattTalkTech well they can just add silicon carbon batteries and a larger chip die.

[@MattTalkTech]

@@LakithaSomirathne They could... But they haven't as of yet. My point is Apple need to get on top of this

[@LakithaSomirathne]

@@MattTalkTech i dunno know how apple will nail this

[@LakithaSomirathne]

@@MattTalkTech and phones t'day are already fast for anything we throw at them!

[@CristiCroicu]

completely stupid to increase the CPU so much in Multicore. They should rather use the available TDP to increase performance of GPU and neural core. Increasing CPU at this moment is like you trying to increase the power of the engine in a honda Civic by adding more turbo chargers and supercharges and getting power levels like 500-600 hp.

[@shacharmarsh9218]

I wonder how good it will work on emulation on Android

[@VivianODLC]

❤❤only love for apple❤❤

[@MattTalkTech]

Nice choice!

[@Wankidy]

The only update to the iPhone over the past 6 years has been faster chip. I wonder what they will do now.

[@iAfroTech]

Apple have nothing to worry about, they can do what they want to.

[@binusudev5502]

Apple should be innovative

[@scottmorris4914]

ARM just cancelled contract with Qualcomm to make their chips.

[@Lazy-kv4kb]

ios wants to be android so bad tim cook secretly dailys a pixel 😂

[@logtothebase2]

THE only real driver is chip fab, if Snapdragon and Intel are on the same generation then they will perform about the same, Apple had 5nm to themselves for a few years as there as their contractor TSMC was way ahead of everyone else, The physical engineering to make this stuff is the most complicated humans have ever achieved by a good way, and every small incremental improvement requires a massive leap in the craft. we are back to the Intel days were Apple will not be able to use speed and efficiency as a differentiator. Personally I would like they invest in improving the accessibility and user experience of there OS's too much is buried and difficult to discover, seniors in particular struggle with IOS

[@-Blue-_]

The most complicated thing humans made was a large hadron collider 100x more complex than building fighter jet engines and creating chips second is ongoing fusion reactor

[@Stranger5808]

Never betraying Apple. I’ve been using Apple products for a long time and they are the best without any doubt! I know that people will disagree but it’s just my opinion.

[@ws6666]

throw in more performance cores! :):)

[@MattTalkTech]

Bye bye battery life then...

[@StudioKelpie1993]

Ah, but is it more powerful than the M4 chip?

[@MattTalkTech]

No... But this is a Phone Chip, not a comparison to use one from a Mac

[@StudioKelpie1993]

@@MattTalkTech True, maybe if Apple decides to unify their Phones, Tablets and Macs with the M Silicon

[@MattTalkTech]

@@StudioKelpie1993 Well as I said in this video, technically the A18 and A18 pro is a mini version of the M4. We get 4x efficency cores and 2x performance cores (6 total) in A18 and A18 Pro. The cores are very similar to the M4 except it is 9 to 10 cores. It is just less of thes same cores as iPhone has a smaller battery as it is a smaller device

[@yordanmilchev]

That's good but what about the software

[@dee4071]

It might be slightly powerful, but Apple chips are more efficient as well.

[@8coachjr]

Mac Studio M4

[@MattTalkTech]

Cannot wait for it!

[@nuyou21]

It's safe to say Qualcomm has much bigger problems than Apple right now, like ARM just terminating it's architectural license 🤭

[@EliezYT]

If Apple with the architecture and clock speed improvements made the A19 Pro with 2p+6e cores, 8 gpu cores, and 12gb 8533MHz LPDDR5X I doubt Qualcomm could compete. It is totally possible for Apple to do this and we would also see an efficiency increase due to the extra 2 e cores.

[@ALmaN11223344]

Qualcomm lovers are touting an 11% multicore lead on a device with 33% more cores...if Apple throws 2 additional efficiency cores on their handheld A series devices then Qualcomm is right back where they began. The issue for Qualcomm is they, like every other CPU manufacturer on the planet, suck on core to core performance and efficiency so they need to settle far deeper into their voltage/frequency curves to be at all competitive with Apple's 6 cores (and only in a full multicore workload).

[@EliezYT]

@@ALmaN11223344 Exactly that’s what I’m saying, all it takes is a core increase on both the cpu and gpu for Apple to be massively better. The ram is just for the ai and gpu performance though, they are also touting the efficiency advantage but the reality is all Apple needs to do is use 6 of their much more efficient cores and they are good.

[@TanveerAhmed-dk3rp]

What's up about qualcomm's 3 core gpu that destroying Apple's 5-6 core gpu all these year. And next year they bringing pegasus cores which 30% or more faster then current 8 gen 4 good luck..

[@EliezYT]

@@TanveerAhmed-dk3rp The amount of Gpu cores as far as I know isn’t publicly disclosed yet?

[@larrysimmons1134]

imagine apple decides to put the M series into their iPhones, doubt it'll happen

[@shaunbutler238]

They should have put the M1 into the Mini. I am looking for a cellular tablet, and the lack of split screen ability in the mini cost them a sale.

[@MattTalkTech]

Never will happen! Your battery life would be about 1/3 it is now. M series are a bigger chip so would take more space inside phone. So the battery would have to be smaller. Then with the extra cores in the M series, this would drain your battery even more. It is why the iPad Mini does not have the M inside of it, as the battery life would be awful!

[@FARSIDE0_0]

If only apple and Qualcomm released around thr same time, it'll be a really good competition. The time gap between them is just not doing it. Qualcomm will surpassed them with the lastest chip, then apple release a new chip, which surpass Qualcomms. And it just goes back and forth

[@madjoubah6549]

A18 came like 1 month ago

[@-Blue-_]

Heh 😆😆 is 1 month old chip old to you 😂😂

[@flappospammo]

It's the software and ecosystem that still separates Apple from the rest , always has been ...

[@-Blue-_]

Not now anymore go and see the oxygenOS 15 videos you isheeps are something else 😂😂

[@Chico_0328]

Could this finally give us AAA games?

[@ThongkhanhSisavat-q4u]

I’m watching from my iPhone 16 pm 😊apple all the way

[@hotdognobun]

Apples products with less clock speed and RAM still can keep up with Androids devices with higher spec. Optimization is king

[@fdgdfgdfgdfg3811]

well they better be because they cost more .

[@JamesThomas-dn6ee]

​@fdgdfgdfgdfg3811 lol samsungs high end phones cost more then I phone

[@madjoubah6549]

Apple controls everything in their product

[@dealgorithms]

I dont know what u meant by SD has gotten a lot better it, SD 8 elite is faster than the a8 pro

[@FooDandDrinkk]

Wait for Apple’s A36 Ultra Air Pro Max Chip and get ready to see Snapdragon defeated.

[@jason7798]

Not to mention that Samsung phones get way better signal strength than iPhone. S25 ultra will be my 1st android phone after having iPhones for the last 12 years

[@todddammit4628]

Raw benchmarks are one thing, but Android will never ever be able to match the efficiency gains Apple can with their hardware and software optimizations. Even if they end up getting outclassed in raw power, real world usage will still be far better.

[@-Blue-_]

Geekerwan videos proves otherwise 😂😂😂

[@JASMEHSINGH-q2q]

what about relaunche of i phone 16 pro and relaunch a18 pro or even change the name to A18 ultra with 8 core cpu

[@fun2rideadventure]

Its normal for Snapdragon have this results due to transition from 4 nm to 3 nm processors

[@synen]

Matt I recall the CEO of Qualcomm presenting its new line of Snapdragon chips with incredible scores and power efficiency. When the actual product was released it showed those original numbers were inflated.

[@MattTalkTech]

I remember that too! Like the 45% battery gain is a bit too much here for me... More like 30-35% but even with that... it is a very good gain

[@BassRukarioGuerrero]

@@MattTalkTech The range will likely most be in the 10-12%.

[@R0M8N]

Apple doesn't care because it has ios

[@MattTalkTech]

Very true as android and phone makers put tones of layers on top

[@frostice4268]

So it is basically faster than m2 in every single way which apple sells iPad Air with it and it crushes a17 pro which came to the new iPad mini

[@amedvedev]

Apple cores much faster per watt per mhz still. So Snap just have more of them and either will keep performance lower in daily life or eat noticeable much more 🤷‍♂️. Who need phone with worser efficiency in daily usage but ok, showing once in a life a bit more synthetic benchmarking peaks about fans so excited 😉. And apple of course can use binned m4 or m5 with reduced power curve in future iphone ultra like it already doing in ipad pro. But not need it’s really. In a19pro they can just add 2 efficient cores and make parity easy. So it’s to much noise and hype talks about nothing, difference really indistinguishable in any normal use. Architecture of apple cores still better on a very noticeable margin. Qualcom acting like 14th gen intel - overclocked and overstuffed, numbers in sake of numbers, with bad efficiency. Look at Elite already

[@TheKevphil]

Not to worry. If Apple is slower, they'll just *_lie_* about it. Like they always do.

[@Testimony201]

I’m still with Apple💯💯They gonna be back untop and untouchable again.

[@maddominican879]

Optimization is something qualcomm will never have😂😂😂

[@Technocrat.]

SD Elite runs at 4.3 ghz

[@ARMAR19]

🤔 What is stopping Apple from making the M1 chip into the new A19?

[@-Blue-_]

Fun fact 8 elite is more powerful than apple M2

[@karthikpakkala9019]

What if 17pro comes in m4 pro chip💀

[@rustyenigma28]

maybe.....maybe not.

[@euphoriantraveller8651]

Can’t wait to get the M4 in the iPhone 😂

[@flappospammo]

Love your background , do you really live there ? :)

[@Icisex]

This is every year still apple kills itt

[@Zion1205]

Hi @MattTalkTech I would really love to see later videos we’re you’re talking about the products you recommend to get. And maybe a video about your desk setup. Also it would be cool to make a video how you think a feature product would help with. For example: I think that the apple ring will be a device ho could trade the precise location of your finger, making it possible to move things on devices without touching the screen. It would then also be a perfect product for the Apple Vision Pro in my opinion.

[@MattTalkTech]

Hey, thank you for the suggestions, I will think about these ideas

[@lastofadyingbreed5526]

Competition is good

[@mamache2028]

Then apple should use M4 Pro chips to iphone 😂😂😅😂 it will be wayyyy more powerful. Hahaha

[@MattTalkTech]

Haha, bye bye battery then!

[@muzammil292]

Is m4 more powerful ya this is close to m4

[@yval8957]

So what's the point of all that power if you're having to charge the phone all the time?

[@MattTalkTech]

You didnt watch the battery part of the video then....

[@pankajsarang256]

Nice

[@prodromosregalides3402]

I watch the video from beginning to end , read multiple comments and I find both the video and the comments hilarious. How Qualcomm did it? Are you surprised ? Really? The same way Apple did it . Two letters and a number: N3E. Both camps Apple and Qualcomm make empty comments about the efficiency and performance of their favorite architecture. Why? Because they imply they reached all that effciency and performance due to the superiority of their architecture alone. If that was the case TSMC would go bankrupt, since Apple and Qualcomm would still use for example TSMC's N7 or even funnier Intel's 10nm, if their architecture was that good. But guess what ? It is NOT. Since you guys think your designers are Gods , and Apple achieved all this because of their Gods , Qualcomm because it stole some of the Gods , you deserve to be deceived. Parenthesis: even Antutu themselves claim that their scores are not cross-platform. iOS scores are comparable within iOS only, the same is valid for Android phones. So why do you compare iphone and android using Antutu?

[@rogerandrelassen3355]

Finally !!

[@AdamBuckingham-ef6sx]

Think about Apple intelligence as well

[@PopMusic911]

yeah which hasn't even launched yet .. + some features come next year ! .. they were so proud promoting it but launched a phone without any A.I capabilities so far.. while Google and Samsung already have A.I available which are better than Siri etc..

[@PopMusic911]

they better deliver..

[@SimplemanOfficial-u7u]

Just use M4 chip in Iphone now

[@GANU_XD]

Just wait till it gets overclocked 😂 yeah apple can have extra ram but dont forget elite is being launched underclocked .... And you know how android users are all it takes is to get the hand on that beast of a processor ☠️

[@atechood]

Apple is Apple. Snapdragon nuhhh

[@AbdulHayee1111]

Apple will come back stronger ❤

[@gibdi0n]

buying iphone 17 pro max or ultra in 2025