Fantastic video! I'm still very interested to see how well the X Elite performs in terms of scheduling and on the *very* low end of the power efficiency curve, where most idle desktop use takes place. Hopefully it is really good on Linux too
@@movingFive windows 11 ARM版已經可以自動模擬X86程式了還不差,問題出在windows 11這東西根本就是一台超古老中古車改裝N次的產物,過去改裝留下的遺物到現在也完全沒清除,還貼皮硬塞一堆高級外觀設備給他跑,現在突然要你把這台油車改成電車的引擎,這工程不是只需要一些時間就能解決的阿。
Yep, finally a silver bullet solution for handheld gaming which previously x86, now hopefully with good translation layer and Valve Proton, Steam Deck Next Gen (2) can be ARM based SteamOS
@HxHStudios Жыл бұрын
eh igpu isnt that much stronger, drivers r also shit the power efficiency is definetly good news for handhelds though
@2Moonlove Жыл бұрын
If Qualcomm want to join the handheld game market, QC can cooperate with ASUS ROG to launch their next generation product. Currently, the ROG ALLY handheld device (running Windows) performance is pretty good but it doesn't have good user-experience because I don't think traditional keyboard/mouse control method is good for handheld gaming device, If Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite can be used on next generation Steam Deck, ROG ALLY and other handheld devices, it is very good competitor to Switch (but Nitendo has many console exclusivity game, it is another topic), The best part is it is not need Windows on handheld gaming device, so it will not dominate by Microsoft!
@cajampa Жыл бұрын
@@2Moonlove You know it is possible to run Switch games on a handheld like the ROG ALLY, right? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIXaqp13p9Gml6s And it could possible work just as well on a Snapdragon X Elite handheld device. So that Nintendo "exclusivity" is not really a thing for those who want to run Switch games on other devices. As long the device is powerful enough someone will figure out a way to do it.
@2Moonlove Жыл бұрын
@@cajampa Correct, but if we use emulator to run games running on other platform such as PS3/4 or Switch, it must be some performance lost due to translation. For last generation handheld gaming device and games on it, it may be fine because even we use emulator, the hardware is still better than these last generation devices. If we want to play the latest best quality 3A games, for example, some PS5 games, maybe use emulator is not a good idea. If there is official support, it will be better solution but some license issue is there. Qualcomm can keep to improve the hardware part, but I think the software will be the final bottleneck. A long way to go from now.
@cajampa Жыл бұрын
@@2Moonlove Yeah there will for sure be a lot of software problem running windows on these chips, i do not have much hope as the software + hardware solution is right now. BUT Nvidia is jumping in the game with arm + graphics chips coming soon and we at least know they do know what they are doing in windows so maybe just we will have a market with arm windows solutions soon enough. My main point in the past reply was that as far as switch is concerned it is pretty much a solved thing, there is lots of emulators and switch is very weak compared to pretty much anything high end, even as far lower watt running hardware like phones.
@carson4344 Жыл бұрын
最大問題是win on arm 的兼容性,平時用的應用不一定應用在win on arm 上
@JohnsonChiw Жыл бұрын
期待這個芯片進入surface系列,微軟也會優化,其他的廠商跟上就不是問題了
@derekg9678 Жыл бұрын
这可能是重大的利好windows on arm的消息。现在还缺少搭载windows能和osx竞争的超长续航超薄本产品。而且因为苹果的制霸产品价格一直降不下去,终于看到一点曙光了,出的话一定买。作为一个金融相关从业者还是比较喜欢windows的操作逻辑。可能我比较low吧
Windows 大範圍還是要看微軟怎麼出力,高通自己調不動 Windows 的話當然會用 Linux 為主要 Demo 的 OS,但經不起一般消費者還是大多用 Windows 阿,科技公司有些部門用 Linux 是沒錯,但他們不會是主要的客群。消費品要成功還是要面向一般消費者,Windows 對消費者還是比較友善的,看來高通還是得靠微軟幫忙,未來切入 PC 領域才能成功 不過換個角度說,如果高通這個產品可以刺激到幾家 PC 大廠,在新的競爭壓力下,如果可以壓下 Macbook 的售價或刺激 Intel/AMD 拿出更好的產品但售價不提高,對消費者也是好事。
我个人对移动设备的理解就是,续航要长,性能够用就行。轻薄本应该和平板电脑合二为一成为一种东西,满足长续航,性能足以日常文书工作即可,现在不管是苹果还是安卓,特别是大陆安卓,软件生态还是太差了,很多PC软件根本用不了。而笔记本电脑应该是作为移动高性能工作站,方便携带到各个工作场所插电使用。期待新版本的Windows on ARM 可以让我的Tab S9 Ultra刷Windows无障碍使用。
@jinraigami3349 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the new videos on your english channel.
@baconroll69 Жыл бұрын
fr
@aaaaaattttttt5596 Жыл бұрын
Cpu is m2 max level Gpu is 780m level You can take help from browser to do the translation work for you I did and got results
今天晚上苹果又要开发布会了。 2023-10-30 ,不知道又会放什么出来。我反而是相当期待chromebook on X elite ,对于部分开发来说,现在都是远程开发了,自己的终端机器需要很好的连接性和续航。
@arnabkumarmondal510 Жыл бұрын
Don't know why don't you upload those awesome videos on the english channel
@winzz12345 Жыл бұрын
微軟圖片還秀出surface duo ? 還系列還能發展下去嗎?
@gamingdroid4731 Жыл бұрын
Please upload sd 8 gen 3 video on your English channel
@mbahchiemerie115 Жыл бұрын
I wish these videos could be made available in English 🤧
@yangtuo Жыл бұрын
我或许可以提供英文版
@latkz7419 Жыл бұрын
Just use auto translate by youtube, this kind video in the channel may not re-post in their english channel🥲
@CakeX Жыл бұрын
They have English channel `@Geekerwan`, but new videos would post later.
@sakamoto8354 Жыл бұрын
It has English subs. Typically they add it after an hour, 2 or 3 after the upload so be patient. They've been adding English subs recently so it's a win for their videos that may not be re-recorded in English in their English channel.
@finafina1504 Жыл бұрын
english sub is available now
@realblack177 Жыл бұрын
頭香,問題還是在arm win 跟價格了,不過更期待發哥的NB CPU
@anson3757 Жыл бұрын
发哥也在开发PC的CPU?
@realblack177 Жыл бұрын
@@anson3757 傳很久了,宣佈跟老黃合作,大部分人都相信是在佈局ARM NB 晶片
@kohjianzher7675 Жыл бұрын
@@anson3757在说9300吧
@anson3757 Жыл бұрын
@@kohjianzher7675 9300和PC八杆子打不着。
@Xbox720plus7 ай бұрын
估计x86快完蛋了,这两年intel和按摩店都可以要开始准备转做arm架构的cpu了。
@realblack1777 ай бұрын
除非可以自行添加ram跟換gpu 不然桌上型電腦還可以活很久
@suwei779 Жыл бұрын
以后会不会有ARM的组装PC
@andersonloi4498 Жыл бұрын
看起來是靠拉高時脈才贏 M2,但是 M2 Max 3.68GHz 才 35W,X Elite 4.3GHz 要吃 65W。 CPU 多吃了 86% 的電耗,但多核效能比 M2 Max 僅僅高了 17%,感覺不太行啊