Supporting details and patterns in reading

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9 жыл бұрын

Supporting details in a paragraph show patterns of information that help you to understand the main idea. In the reading process, supporting details let you see how the writer organized his or her thoughts into the paragraph, so you should let them guide your comprehension.
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IN THIS PLAYLIST
"Patterns in paragraphs" playlist: • The paragraph: main id...
The main idea... • The main idea as a pat...
Supporting details... (this video)
RELATED VIDEOS
Vocabulary playlist: • Vocabulary in Reading:...
FURTHER READING
Public Health (website): www.publichealth.org/
Preventing Diabetes (CDC website): www.cdc.gov/diabetes/basics/pr...
Reading Fluency among early readers (website): goo.gl/ODOdXN
Decoding and fluency problems of poor college readers (National College Transition Network website): www.collegetransition.org/col...
REFERENCES
What Is Public Health? (webpage): www.whatispublichealth.org/wha...
Causes of Diabetes. National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases. (NIH webpage): www.niddk.nih.gov/health-infor...
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"And Then We Take Them Down Again" by Dokashiteru (feat. Susan Joseph)
"Impact" in Impact by Kevin McLeod #reading #series

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@7ndooda436
@7ndooda436 8 жыл бұрын
I am PhD student. The context of this video was so helpful to structure the thesis paragraphs.Thanks alot
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 8 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you so much for the great feedback. I'm very happy that the video can you started on the writing process. Dissertations can get very complex, but the idea is the same: communicating ideas. Thanks for watching! -- Marc Franco
@abdinasirmohamedkalbani6711
@abdinasirmohamedkalbani6711 5 жыл бұрын
I call you a perfect teacher even though I don't know your statue in education! secondly I have fallen in love with the way you explain this particular subject, it is very edifying and informative. I am from Africa, Somalia because there was severe civil war in my country, thus I have not had the opportunity to go to a formal school or I have never been to a class to study! I typically get my educational resources from you-tube and my teachers are just like you and many other unknown ones. I am now preparing my GED and Microsoft office and your teaching skills are very helpful to better understand a lot about GED. you are amazing ( Maestro)
@awilbihi9487
@awilbihi9487 4 жыл бұрын
Well said..
@heathersisto1119
@heathersisto1119 5 жыл бұрын
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@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the stellar comment! Educational KZbin channels are great resources for students, teachers, and lifelong learners. I am very happy to hear you place Snap Language up there among them. :D
@ashishrathore6860
@ashishrathore6860 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a meaningful content on English literature, these are revolutions in understanding reading and writing techniques
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! I'm glad you're getting so much out of our materials. Make sure you clicked the bell button when you subscribed so you don't miss any of the new videos... Cheers! :D
@prettypotato5566
@prettypotato5566 3 жыл бұрын
thank you... i used to focus on main idea but now i'll try your method
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 жыл бұрын
Great! I hope it helps. It takes a lot of practice. You can do both, look for the main idea but you can't lose track of the details because they are the ones pointing to the main idea. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! :D
@profdmars
@profdmars 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video! It's clear and engaging. I love how you break down a complicated subject into manageable parts for students.
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 9 жыл бұрын
Dominique Marshall Wow... thank you! What great compliments, especially because my goal is to make things easy to understand without dumbing them down. I will be posting more reading-related videos in the next few weeks. Stay tuned. :)
@profdmars
@profdmars 8 жыл бұрын
I certainly will, thanks!
@user-uu4jv1gc6c
@user-uu4jv1gc6c 7 ай бұрын
I would love to see this done for younger students. They struggle to understand this and your explanation is perfect - the topic of public health and clinical medicine are too advanced for them though.
@Fuckutray
@Fuckutray 3 ай бұрын
thank you. this was very helpful.
@maniesanders3033
@maniesanders3033 Жыл бұрын
The video was very explained and made me understand the main idea
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage Жыл бұрын
Happy to know it was helpful. Enjoy the rest of the channel.
@gauri406
@gauri406 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the important video on main idea
@egalmagan3614
@egalmagan3614 4 жыл бұрын
Man . You deserve millions of subscribers. I have already done it
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I wish I had that many subscribers! I just need to find time to keep posting videos. :D
@torey8621
@torey8621 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Returning back to school and I am grateful for your videos!
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage Жыл бұрын
Hi, Torey! I'm not sure why KZbin buried your message until I accidentally ran across it just now. *Thank you so much for supporting Snap Language. You're awesome!* I'm glad you have found value in the materials. Let me know if there's anything you'd like to see. I can't promise to produce it right away, but I can always add ideas to the "future videos" list. Thanks again for your support! You're awesome.
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage Жыл бұрын
P.S.: I added you to snaplanguage.io/supporters.html If you'd rather not be on that page, let me know. Thanks again! :D
@anv.4614
@anv.4614 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Marc.
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome :D
@mohammadzarif2378
@mohammadzarif2378 8 жыл бұрын
Great work sir! It's wonderful.
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 8 жыл бұрын
+Mohammad Faizy Thank you for the support! I'll be posting new videos soon about much more. I hope you enjoy those, too!
@jeajungful
@jeajungful 8 жыл бұрын
It is a very helpful video! I have problems when I have to write a paragraph because I always get confusion in writing. This video makes it clearly! Thank you for making such a great one. :)
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 8 жыл бұрын
+Munlika Wintachai I'm very happy to know you found the video helpful. I will be posting more of these videos soon in addition to general-interest topics in language and linguistics. I hope you subscribe so you don't miss any of them. :)
@sheniahsheaisyndaniellefre3058
@sheniahsheaisyndaniellefre3058 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave such a lovely comment :D
@sheniahsheaisyndaniellefre3058
@sheniahsheaisyndaniellefre3058 3 жыл бұрын
Omg thanks for replying back to me.And thanks for the lesson,I’m not that good at math so please do more lessons :D
@liv2655
@liv2655 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 🌷
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 жыл бұрын
Always welcome. Glad you found Snap Language :D
@carsondaman
@carsondaman 5 жыл бұрын
good video. thanks for the information!
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I hope you enjoy the rest of the channel! :D
@spiritualsoul4910
@spiritualsoul4910 2 жыл бұрын
How can show my gratitude 🙏to you . Thank you soo much.
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure 😊
@tutorb6975
@tutorb6975 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@tanyasatsangi4643
@tanyasatsangi4643 6 жыл бұрын
really helpful video .Very nice trick of explaining the rules
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful. We learn these "tricks" through experience, so... keep on reading a lot :) Thanks for watching and leaving such a nice comment!
@tanyasatsangi4643
@tanyasatsangi4643 6 жыл бұрын
thankyou very much :)
@doobeedoobap12
@doobeedoobap12 5 жыл бұрын
I love your lectures!
@anv.4614
@anv.4614 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Marc, I fully support your videos in which I can broaden my mind so much. Thanks
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 жыл бұрын
It makes me happy to hear that! Thank you for your support! :D
@darneshatyson1918
@darneshatyson1918 Жыл бұрын
this helps me alot
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad you found the content useful. Thanks for leaving a lovely comment!
@ibrahimwahab9801
@ibrahimwahab9801 4 жыл бұрын
Ty Marc. The video is educational. simple and right on point on how to read and understand. I also liked the way you put emphasis on practice...
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ibrahim. The "snap" in Snap Language is our reminder to "get to the point." I'm glad you found it to work. Thanks for watching and leaving such positive feedback! :D
@anime_weeb_girl
@anime_weeb_girl 4 жыл бұрын
Nice I understand
@pammypam832
@pammypam832 7 жыл бұрын
,Thank you very much.It's excellent Video.God bless you
@bennsolo
@bennsolo 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are really good, on the main idea, supporting sentence.. they really helped to understand the reading. Have you written a book? It will be really useful for non-native English students who take exams like IELTS, PTE whose primary language may not be English and struggle to do well in Reading and Writing.
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, Benn! Thanks for the nice comment! I am actually working on some supporting materials for each video that I hope will help both native and non-native students. It's taking longer than I wanted, but I think it will take Snap Language to an even deeper level. Thanks for watching! I hope you are enjoying the rest of the channel. :D
@bennsolo
@bennsolo 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc, I watched all of the videos in your channel. Thanks for knowledge sharing. I have liked all your videos practically and also according to the social media symbol. If you can do some videos on "dissecting a long complex-compound sentence to understand or comprehend" it would be really nice. even if you can refer some source where it gives step by step breaking up of a huge sentence it would be cool.
@m.whitmore1974
@m.whitmore1974 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew of this guy and his teaching until I went to school and there they use his videos to be apart as a teaching tool and I see why.
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you very much for this comment. It made my day. I'm curious. What type of school is it? Thanks again! :D
@m.whitmore1974
@m.whitmore1974 4 жыл бұрын
Junior college in Kansas
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 жыл бұрын
@@m.whitmore1974 Awesome! Best of luck with your studies. You're probably all online now... don't give up! Online courses can be just as good as face to face. :D
@sergeyfox2298
@sergeyfox2298 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting take: Now, I think Argumentation is only a subset of this main idea + supporting details structure. We have informative writings, narrative writings, pursuasive writings that also exhibit this main idea + supporting details structure. Generally, English has a set of writings that exhibit this main idea + supporting details structure, Argumentation beng one of them.
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! There are different types of ideas (definitions, expositions, illustrations, arguments, etc.)... paragraphs (and whole essays) are structured around the idea (not the other way around). Thanks for the comment! -- Cheers! :D
@eslstudent1029
@eslstudent1029 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t really know how to finding the Theme and please further explain about fact and option ,compare and contrast also . Thank you Sir.Have a wonderful day! Please continue to help us.
@anjali992able
@anjali992able 4 жыл бұрын
it is really a great video
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I hope you subscribe to the channel so you get to see our future videos. :D
@raaj966
@raaj966 5 ай бұрын
Awsome ❣️
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 ай бұрын
You're awesome! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment! :D
@spiritualsoul4910
@spiritualsoul4910 2 жыл бұрын
Please tutor suggest me that which sites articles are more beneficial to practice such topic. I will be so grateful 🙏for that Please because I'm preparing ielts and I'm struggling a on reading section.
@selin2213
@selin2213 7 жыл бұрын
A helpful, well-produced video! I use these for my online students, thank-you. Note: In this video, at 4:02 or so, the word "understanding" is misspelled. Thought you'd want to know 🤓
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you are enjoying the videos! Unfortunately, typos sometimes go unnoticed until after the video has been published. KZbin does not make it very easy to "make corrections" after the fact, so I count on "people's forgiveness..." :D
@sharonelin973
@sharonelin973 7 жыл бұрын
mrs.elin.ccpsonline Forgiven, for sure! I'm such a grammar snob; now you must please forgive me! I can't seem to stop myself.
@sabazia8316
@sabazia8316 5 жыл бұрын
very informative and helpful!!! Mr. Franco could you help me about how to add supporting details in the reading passage.
@shankarkc9170
@shankarkc9170 Жыл бұрын
Nice...
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage Жыл бұрын
Glad you've enjoyed it!
@Manjeetsingh-gl7op
@Manjeetsingh-gl7op 4 жыл бұрын
Pls make some videos on competitive ielts reading and writing exam
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Manjeet! I started a new channel, *Snap Language Learner*, for videos related to learning English and things like that. It just started, so I don't have a lot of videos there yet. If you subscribe, eventually you'll start seeing videos like you mentioned. This is the link: kzbin.info/door/zN5YElf_3pNxGOv-EUZesw
@beverlyjonas2980
@beverlyjonas2980 4 жыл бұрын
WRTG 111 6390 Introduction to Academic Writing I (2198) brought me here. :) Great stuff!
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found Snap Language. It's good to know you've been enjoying the channel. In fact, I'm about to start dropping more writing-related videos. Thanks for watching and leaving such an awesome comment! :D
@entenglishnewspapertrainer6421
@entenglishnewspapertrainer6421 6 жыл бұрын
very helpful video! Sir if a passage contains more than five paragraph then will each paragraph have its own main idea and topic?????
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 6 жыл бұрын
That's correct. A well formed paragraph has a topic and a main idea. The topic is what the paragraph is about; the main idea is what the writer says about that. Thanks for watching! :D
@entenglishnewspapertrainer6421
@entenglishnewspapertrainer6421 6 жыл бұрын
st of thanks for your reply.Secondly Sir when we read a research about some topic,it has a specific topic like "why our planet is getting hot day by day" when writter want to inform Us about reasons,he/she mostly convert the passage with several paragraph, then should we go for the topic and the main idea for each paragraph or we rather focus on the main idea than topic as we already know about the topic.thanks
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 6 жыл бұрын
Everything needs to work together. When you write about a topic, you have a "central message" that you want to communicate; that is called your *thesis*. Using your own example, let's say your thesis is "Our planet is getting warmer for several reasons." To support your thesis, you can write several paragraphs, where perhaps each paragraph will address one of the reasons. So, each paragraph (1) has a main idea (in this example, a reason the planet is warming) and (2) that main idea supports your thesis. Paragraph 1 has a main idea that supports the thesis... paragraph 2 has a different main idea that supports the thesis... paragraph 3... etc... So, when you the reader is done reading the whole passage, the reader should understand that our planet is getting warmer for several: reason 1 (explained in paragraph 1), reason 2 (explained in paragraph 2), reason 3 (explained in paragraph 3), and so forth. I am simplifying the process here. For example, sometimes one of the reasons may be very complex, so you write more than one paragraph to explain it... but you get the idea... I hope :) I hope this helps! :D
@entenglishnewspapertrainer6421
@entenglishnewspapertrainer6421 6 жыл бұрын
thanks alot! ihave got the idea.and good thing is with the help of your tutorial i am iproving my reading skill and shocking news is that in IELTS reading practice i got 12/40 before watching your tutorial and the now result is average 28/40 .thanks a lot Sir you have such a huge problem of mine
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! That is great feedback. I'm glad to know my videos are helpful, but remember you are the one doing the hard part! Keep it up and all the best with your studies. :D
@nasirahmed8940
@nasirahmed8940 5 жыл бұрын
m sorry m lil cornfuse type 2 debities is a cause or symptom in paragraph???
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 5 жыл бұрын
The way the sample paragraph was written, it lists the *causes* of diabetes. It was included in the video just to show how paragraphs have patterns of information... don't take anything in it as "medical advice." For accurate information, see www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overview/symptoms-causes . They list the symptoms (for example, increased thirst and hunger, blurred vision, weight loss) and the causes of both type 1 and type 2 diabetes. Thanks for watching and leaving a question! :D
@shrestaseetharam8368
@shrestaseetharam8368 7 жыл бұрын
Ah... very informative. Maybe the 1 dislike is for the typo at 4.04 :)
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is a typo there... unfortunately, I can't just get in there and fix it without losing all the views, likes, and what-not :( Thanks for watching and leaving a comment, though! :D
@rajaloni8704
@rajaloni8704 10 ай бұрын
Can we quote like 'the characteristics of Type 2 diabetes" instead of different cause of type 2 diabetes"
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 9 ай бұрын
It depends on the paragraph as you can build a paragraph focusing on causes or characteristics. However, you can focus on the causes and add characteristics to explain them. (I'm not sure I addressed your question... I hope so). Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! :D
@sabazia8316
@sabazia8316 5 жыл бұрын
For me as a learner and teacher, is difficult to understand how to add supporting details. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, Saba. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment/question. In this type of questions, the reader needs to understand what the topic and main idea of a paragraph are. The main idea is the main point that the author is making; therefore, if you were to "add a new supporting detail," it would have to support that main idea. For example, if an author is writing that "Reading is an important skill for several reasons," any detail must be a *reason* that supports the idea that reading is an important skill. The conclusion is slightly different because it must also support the whole passage. In this case, you must understand the central point of the whole passage and add statements in the conclusion that are supported in the body of the passage. I hope that makes sense. Let me know if I can clarify it further.
@sabazia8316
@sabazia8316 5 жыл бұрын
Snap Language Thank u Marc !! I have got it to some extent. Can i share you that passages? So that can be more helpful??
@sergeyfox2298
@sergeyfox2298 3 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of mystified by this, but I don't really know how to write a basic paragraph nor know how to dissect one? Do our schools not teach us how to write a paragraph or identify paragraphs? I'm examining the examples, and my brain doesn't identify the details or the main idea when I try to. I can't seem to have a detection system that analyses the components of the paragraph and detect the pieces of the paragraph. On another note: it appears that a paragraph is an argument or is in argumentative form: conclusion and premises. I'm not sure if other languages operate like this, but I can at least see a connection between the argumentation structure and paragraph structure. Are students learning how to argue when they learn how to identify components of a paragraph through analysis of paragraph, and write their own paragraph? Even now, I realize I don't even know if I wrote any paragraphs to begin with. Nevertheless, I'll say this, this series is really eye opening.
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 жыл бұрын
Your paragraphs in this response are well organized, so you do have a good sense of how this works. I vaguely remember being taught about this in school but, at the time, it didn’t make much sense. Thinking is such an innate process that it’s difficult to think about how we do it. It takes a lot of practice until we start seeing a pattern. That’s why, when I teach reading, I keep telling my students to read as much as they can every day. There is no surefire “trick” or “shortcut” to understanding a paragraph. You can look for transition words showing you where the ideas are and how they’re organized, but writers don’t always use transitions where you’d expect them. The only way to understand paragraphs is to look for patterns of information and try to build a mental picture of the paragraph. In a way, you are doing what the writer did but in reverse. You’re thinking these things through... that’s a great step towards improving your reading comprehension... which you develop over your lifetime. Thanks for watching and leaving such a great comment! Cheers! :D
@user-py7rl9ev6l
@user-py7rl9ev6l 3 жыл бұрын
Idgi!? I have to turn in an essay before Wednesday or ill fail this semester can you please explain this
@user-py7rl9ev6l
@user-py7rl9ev6l 3 жыл бұрын
Im supposed to write supporting details but I'm confused 😰
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I only now saw your comment. I'm not sure how I can help you other than tell you to refer to the video; besides, I'm not sure what your assignment is to be able to help you. Essentially, supporting details are the details that explain a main point. Think of it as, for example, the concept of "dog" could be a main point... the details would be "mammal," "barks," "a pet," and so on... the supporting details provide further information on a major idea or concept. Cheers! :D
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you did well :D
@user-py7rl9ev6l
@user-py7rl9ev6l 3 жыл бұрын
@@snaplanguage thank you! i really appreciate you responding so now i know for future reference but I'm gonna fail probably its not your fault
@eslstudent1029
@eslstudent1029 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr.Marco ,I am watching your Chanel and feel easier to understand because the way you are explanation and showing to us.I am try to work to earn GED certificate but I have been struggling about reading comprehension .I am please you to give me some best sources how to get improve reading skill and learning writing an affectively argument about essay so I can get the High school diploma.I am a Vietnamese person and 45 years old.I have 3 Childs at age 10,9 and 8 .I really need your help so I can teach my children ,too .Thank you very much for your Chanel you offered it to us. Again thank you and appreciated!
@sabazia8316
@sabazia8316 5 жыл бұрын
in teaching reading comprehension critical response question, students are usually asked in the exams question like " Imagine yourself as a co author of the article. Add any Two supporting details in conclusion.
@SuperStickAnimations
@SuperStickAnimations Жыл бұрын
Aguachirry
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage Жыл бұрын
@rhondaroberts368
@rhondaroberts368 Жыл бұрын
I concur7NDOOA
@sls554
@sls554 Жыл бұрын
Why make it hard to find the main idea
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage Жыл бұрын
Writers don't "make it hard" to find the main idea. Some writers are actually very straightforward, though others may take a little more effort for readers to "get the point." The good news is that the more you read, the better you get at reading all sorts of writing. Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. Enjoy the channel!
@sls554
@sls554 Жыл бұрын
@@snaplanguage I disagree
@sls554
@sls554 Жыл бұрын
Why make it so hard to find the main Idea??
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage Жыл бұрын
@@sls554 It's a game writers play just to get people bent out of shape.
@sls554
@sls554 Жыл бұрын
So etimes math is easier than finding the main idea
@tessc8932
@tessc8932 4 жыл бұрын
?😐
@kindredecho
@kindredecho 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Snap, Ugh. You list cause, cause, cause, cause as pointing to the topic of the diabetes paragraph. Respectfully, I say you have not understood the sentences. For example: "...the body cannot produce or use insulin effectively" is not a cause of T2, it's an effect of developing T2. The following two sentences are also not causes but risk factors in developing T2. This leaves the effect of this paragraph all over the place. If you had to make a concluding sentence to encapsulate the paragraph it would be better as: While the risk factors and effects of Type 2 diabetes are understood, the causes are not (within the purview of this example). It is important that the proper decoding of, not just the words, but the underlying concepts happen.
@snaplanguage
@snaplanguage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, kindredecho. I hear what you're saying. The information about diabetes in that paragraph comes from the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases -- www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overview/symptoms-causes?dkrd=hispt0015 The point in the video is not to teach about diabetes but to teach how to understand the main idea of a paragraph. The reader must use the information in the paragraph to understand it as it was written... You went a step further and used critical thinking and information you already knew to dispute the main idea of and the information in the paragraph. *That's awesome!* :D Thanks for watching and leaving a well thought out comment!
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