Foveon vs CCD colors! BEST old DSLR for portrait photography?

[@snappiness]

(answers to which pictures are which camera below) Interested in the SIRUI C60B Bi-color LED light? Here's a limited number of 10% off coupons. First come first served! (valid until 10/21/2022) - amzn.to/3Mq8eOE P36E-S7PM7B-NH2RAF P3AA-6MGV2D-4QB6AJ P3TF-39KZ3M-SK6FAZ P3S3-SRSA83-DEV3AX P3X7-QMZE5T-USWRAK P3KL-W593MB-2YK4A8 P3JJ-K3CD7W-HSVCAA P3JU-PATSJL-XHZZA9 P3FE-LBUY7Z-W4FCAB P328-BV52FN-VFRFAJ Spoiler alert!! Make your guesses before reading the rest of this comment! The answers for which camera/lens combo took which picture are (for both sets of mystery pictures): 1. Olympus E-300 + 50mm f2 macro 2. Sigma SD14 + Sigma 150mm f2.8 macro 3. Pentax K10D + Pentax 77mm f1.8 Limited Did you get it right? Does it matter? (No 😄) But I thought it was fun. Hope you did too. If you liked this format of video, let me know what variations you'd like to see in the future!

[@unbroken1010]

😂 🐕 🐱

[@chezruss]

It would have been interesting to know what aperture was used - unless I missed you saying and they were all shot open on full aperture?

[@tosvus]

I could only figure the Sigma because it constantly seemed to be a tad out of focus :D I'm happy that the picture I preferred was the Olympus, as I literally bought one online yesterday! I like the Pentax too but definitely a different color science. I'm thinking that would be better for street and especially landscape while the Olympus is more pleasing for portraits. I might pick up one of those as well.

[@jimfixespixels]

I correctly guessed the pentax both times, but i don't think that's hard, the Pentax to me has this buttery smooth ramp down in to shadow. it's tough to describe. But the rendering of the lower end on the pentax k10 has always dazzled me.

[@gatecityradio]

This took me back in time lol. I started out with a Pentax K200D (similar to the K10D) and knew immediately which pictures came from the pentax ccd. They always tend to lean more green in tint.

[@Big.E]

My favourite photograhy channel by far, long live Pentax and older gen dslrs

[@thissidetowardscreen4553]

Brilliant video! Being an owner of a retired K10d! Love to see this type of comparisons. All the cameras did a great job! 1:Olympus. 2: Sigma 3: Pentax

[@snappiness]

I haven't figured out when I want to post the correct answers 😆 thanks for guessing, glad you enjoyed it!

[@michaelbell75]

The Fuji S5 Pro has legendary status among us portrait and wedding shooters. Ive used a TON of cameras and it has the best skin tones Ive ever seen. Mostly due to the excellent SuperCCD sensor in it. Mine finally died last year and I havent replaced it but I really should. Between these cameras, I actually preferred the Pentx but I would have much rather seen SOOC images. Once you start tweaking the colors in post, they are to YOUR liking and not what the camera produced. Good video though.

[@neilgrover1585]

Well done! All three setups are interesting for different reasons. I do really enjoy your channel content. It's nice to see these kinds of comparisons. Not many channels do this kinda thing (or it isn't done as well). It's easy to find content on the latest-and-greatest but that doesn't reflect everyone's interest or reality. My guesses: @6:52 - (1) Sigma. Something about the skin color (warm) and reflections (cold) make the colors look a bit "off"? I dunno, I'm no expert. - (2) Olympus: Noticeably soft. - (3) Pentax: looks natural, sharp (in a good way) and my favorite of the three They are all great images so to me it's splitting hairs. This is a good showcase of what can be achieved with older gear.

[@danny_r27]

Love seeing the E-300 again! I recently got one for $85 in mint condition with 1,244 shutter actuations and I love it to death. The fact that I got it for $85 with 2 kit lenses is insane and I’m glad that One month Two cameras video sold me on it. The CCD sensor is what I hoped it would be and I couldn’t be happier. Hope to see more videos on and and I’ve already been recommended the 25mm f/2.8 and 50mm f/2 Olympus lenses. I’ll have to look into them more for sure but it’s nice to see you using that 50mm. Great video and hope to see more E-300 or old four thirds videos!

[@snappiness]

That was a great price! Mine... Is not as in nice condition, haha. But I also get satisfaction saving it from the dumpster. I have the 25mm f2.8 as well! Only taken a few shots with it, but it's nice! The size is especially nice. More content from this camera will definitely come!

[@dedclownsRfunny]

I recently bought an e-500 (because it was in better condition and value with two kit lenses compared to other Oly CCD options) and I was immediately in love. I also separately bought an Oly 12-60mm f2.8-4 ED SWD lens which isn’t a proper Pro lens (which are very expensive and hard to find), but in the middle range. It’s a fantastic lens as well! Highly recommend if you can find one :D

[@victor.shpakov]

Thanks James, nice work as usual! I personally love color comparisons. All three yield a good image, each having its own character. Though, I like the Pentax more: Oly and Sigma had more magenta/violet cast to it. PS. Wife is lovely. PPS. It’s so convenient to hold the camera on the vertical grip when shooting in portrait orientation. Noticed you were still doing it in a hard way with Pentax😀

[@snappiness]

Hahaha! I bought the grip last month, but still haven't gotten used to it. I didn't even realize I was still doing that until you pointed it out! 😆

[@shipbuilding1000]

Wish I still had my E300….it gets my vote between those 3 cameras. The closest thing I’ve found to the look of those Kodak 4/3 CCD’s in the modern era has been the sensor on the Fuji XT1. Love Fuji’s Mirrorless system but also shoot Pentax like you, and like you I haven’t sold any of my older gear for at least 10 years. I started Pentax with the K5II….thought about grabbing a used K10 many times over the last few years since they cost almost nothing these days. Great video

[@xmeda]

K10D has focusing adjustment... in service menu.

[@snappiness]

I will have to learn this method, thanks!

[@StephenStrangways]

@Fred Johnson it depends on what firmware version you're on. Up to 1.2 you can just enter it with a button sequence, as of 1.3 you need to create a special file on the SD first.

[@unbroken1010]

How you know which way to go?

[@StephenStrangways]

@@unbroken1010 trial and error. Change it one way, see if focus gets better or worse.

[@jbp6759]

Wow, news to me!

[@dedclownsRfunny]

I preferred the colours of: 3 > 1 > 2 for the first set, then 2 > 1 > 3 for the second. In the first set Photo #2 looked a little washed out. These three are all cameras I’ve been looking at while in the CCD obsession. I tried a Pentax K200D and I just couldn’t gel with it. It has a cracked back screen which doesn’t affect anything and doesn’t bother me, but I don’t know it didn’t feel right. The Oly E-500 I then bought was instant love! One of the Sigmas is on my to-buy list now, but which one depends on a few factors

[@fthprodphoto-video5357]

2 things that CCD need to offer perfect portraits are : Good and even lighting on the subject to keep the iso lower than 400 ideally(background doesn’t matter) And don’t underexpose the shot by more than 0.3 stop, it’s better to overexpose by 0.3 stop to avoid mushy shadows If the weather is a bit overcast with clouds, results will be great with ccd cameras. If the contrast is high, use the pop up flash with a diffuser or a reflector. For landscapes, just expose well or bracket 2 raw stops and blend them after

[@WOLFTICKVIDEOS]

1. Pentax 2. Sigma 3. Olympus Regardless, I think I prefer #3 on both. You out kicked your coverage my friend, good job👍

[@snappiness]

Thanks for watching! :) The answers are in the pinned comment.

[@Gary_W]

I just found your channel by accident looking for a video in YT about people using old cameras to create stunning images. I just re-acquired a Canon G15 and had a lot of fun shooting whatever I could find these last few days. Subscribed, can't wait for more videos from you! 😁

[@snappiness]

Fantastic, Gary. :) and thanks for stopping by!

[@herus6672]

My sister had olympus e-300. She loved it and she also let me use it aswell. Very good camera. She had both of the kit lenses. Loved that camera and now im looking to get one myself

[@Gynra]

I guessed correctly. While all the photos were lovely, the micro-four thirds sensor in the Olympus suffered a little from blown highlights, while the Sigma seemed a bit soft. There is no mistaking the rendering of the Pentax 77 mm f1.8 Limited. It's one of my favourite lens and it's a shame you can't get it to focus correctly on the K10D.

[@mrwashur1991]

That Olympus camera is a 4/3 not a m4/3. Olympus dropped ccd sensor by the time they went to m4/3.

[@Gynra]

@@mrwashur1991 Yes, you're right. I had forgotten about the four-thirds sensor in early Olympus digital cameras.

[@VanijaMi]

Hey if you have chance try the legendary Canon 5D Classic

[@Sluggo57]

Thank you. I’m interested in the Pentax. I loved my old Pentax ME and took it hiking all over the Australian outback in the early 1980s. 🦘

[@snappiness]

I love my Pentax K10D! Pretty cheap nowadays and compatible with all old manual Pentax K mount glass. Great little camera.

[@martinvanbakel3950]

The E-300 is the best. I bought my E-300 in 2005 and still use it as an everyday camera. Never regret buying it. A matter of fact I have 3 of them so I don't have to change my lenses. I also have the E-330 and the E-410 and the 420. I love the colours, and the quality is great. After 17 years the 300 work's and looks like new.

[@snappiness]

Alright! I'm curious, what are your favorite lenses for the system? I am really enjoying mine and looking to expand my lineup. I have the 25mm and 50mm.

[@waltherziemerink]

If you can get your hands on the 11-22. Jump on it. Probably the sharpest near distortion-less lens I've ever used.

[@marcr8968]

@@snappiness My most frequently used lens on this camera is the Panasonic Leica D Vario-Elmarit 14-50mm f2.8-f3.5 OIS lens that I purchased many years ago with the Digilux 3 four thirds camera. This lens is optically stabilized, which helps with the e-300 at low iso's. The only problem is that it's still very expensive to purchase but will work very well with any Olympus four thirds camera. I have used it many time with the E-1 as well.

[@luzr6613]

@@snappiness 14-54 is weather-sealed and can be a bargain. 50-200 is a great lens too. 18-180 lives on my E-620 which i use as a kind of mobile notepad for projects - really handy focal range for that purpose. Cheers.

[@wyattgaw2955]

Nice review, thanks,I have a sigma dp2s,I set the colour profile to vivid and raw in camera and find I hardly ever tweak the files, lovely image quality

[@wyattgaw2955]

Mind you it's a camera that makes you slow down,reminds me of a Olympus trip(my first descent camera, which I ended up using more than my film SLR at the time) only digital

[@snappiness]

That's a good little tip to tweak the settings in camera a bit more. I also think I need to go ahead and set custom white balance each time, as this cmaeras auto WB seems to have an issue

[@markhoffman9655]

I used the E-1 and E-300 for a few weddings and magazine articles - colours and sharpness were as good or better than what C or N had on the market.The macro lens had a reputation as one of an almost optically perfect design and superb resolution at dpreview.

[@realamericannegro977]

Do you still use these old camera for work?

[@nicholasmiddleton7157]

Would you consider doing a video on how to replace the focusing screen like you did for the Pentax K10d? I have a K200d with the same problem and I am limited to manual focus and would like to try this upgrade to see if it makes manual focusing easier. If not a whole video, do you have any tips on where to buy the replacement parts? Or tips on how to do the procedure? Thanks. I enjoy your videos.

[@snappiness]

I was able to find mine used. They are tricky to come by for these older models, and the only place I've seen where they are consistently in stock is focusingscreen.com. I have not purchased there before though, so can't vouch for them. The actual replacement is really simple. If you take off your lens and flip the camera upside down, you'll see the focusing screen above the mirror (or below, I guess, if you've flipped it upside down). There's a metal tab in the center on the outside edge that you flip, and this releases the black metal tray that is keeping it in. Take out the old, pop in the new, and push the metal tray back until that clip snaps into place again. Hope that's making sense. :D

[@jaymikevillanueva1212]

If I had to be pick, I'd say I'd choose the Olympus E-300. I like the compact size and Olympus, to my mind, usually get the colors right and it's very responsive on the autofocusing.

[@AntonioVegaAVR]

One two e300, and one 500 (also Kodak with CCD Kodak sensor), the results that you get from the hardware is just great.

[@imnguyen6658]

@@AntonioVegaAVR Any advantages one way or the other on the e300 and 500?

[@DonalLeader]

Love the E-300 which offers a unique look which copes well with the Irish landscape and produces distinctive image tones that avoid the tourist brochure look.

[@kenblair2538]

I'm an Olympus guy. And I love my 50mm macro. KB

[@snappiness]

It's a fantastic combo! I'm heaving a lot of fun with it!

[@3DOM65]

Is the e 300 better than the e 520.?

[@gideonliddiardphotography]

Nice video, you should pick up a Fuji Finepix S3 Pro or S5 pro, Nikon F mount, bonkers Super CCD sensor and is great for skin tones. I still have and use an S3 Pro for that very reason

[@superbug1977]

I am responding to the second set only: Number 2 has rich tones. I like it the most. And now I see it is the Foveon sensor. Wow! I own the Sigma SD14 and love its qualities--though it feels like a cheap toy in my hands, and that bothers me some. I could not tell which camera produced which image before reading the answers, despite the fact that I've owned the Pentax and a limited lens or two. But for me the Sigma image is better than the others. Good video.

[@nineteenseventy4588]

Can you import the Camera Profile of the Olympus 300 RAW files into Lightroom? Mine always changes to Adobe Color.

[@ChristopherBletzinger]

I also have this problem! and I'm having trouble finding the solution

[@ChristopherBletzinger]

@Phillip Banes Does this fix the color calibration? I was under the impression that a preset isn't much help without the camera's color profile?

[@stevieb7121]

Great video! Having been a Sigma (DP) user many years ago, I've just recently returned to the fold with an SD15 - so very interested in your content! I have to say that, after years of Olympus/Panasonic/Fuji shooting, I'm struggling to love the SD15 in the way I thought I might..... 😞

[@MrButtons252]

I really liked the first foveon image you did edited in lightroom. I had a DP2 quattro and an SD, always struggled with skin tones but they produce wonderful black and white images.

[@snappiness]

Agreed - I should try more black and white with mine! I've tinkered with it but haven't dove full into it.

[@Alex-B2357]

Cool video thank you, the lens has a lot to do with colors also. Amazing the detail from those sensors. Easily beats what 35mm can produce.

[@VWLivin]

Great comparison. I really love the E-300. I used an Olympus E3 for a long time but the color science was way more clinical compared to what I'm seeing with the Kodak CCD images here. The colors seem to be much richer or more punchy from the Kodak than with the Live MOS sensor I've been used to. I guess I need a new camera.

[@petepictures]

I also have some CCD sensored cameras, I mostly liked the 150mm lens for it's isolating the background .

[@snappiness]

That is a nice effect. Which cameras do you have?

[@imjh12]

I bought a E300 instead of digicam, and color was wonderful. but I'd like some OIS for low iso.

[@snappiness]

It is wonderful. I am loving my E300! Not many DSLRs (let alone cameras) had stabilization back then, but the Pentax K10D did (sensor stabilization). That and weather sealing is one of the neat things about it.

[@unbroken1010]

Does the Old four thirds E1 take SD or c.f. anyone use a c.f. to SD card adapter? How does it fair?

[@patrickjclarke]

1) Olympus, 2) Sigma, 3)Pentax. Those early Foveons, I love them for BW, but they were tough to get consistent skin tones and colors. The Pentax is very under-rated and I love those Limited lenses. I'd love for you to throw my first (and still own) Sony A100 with Sony 50mm f/1.4. I love using it still and with DxO DeepPrime and Adobe SuperResolution for color, and Cobalt Images CCD Monochrom Profile for BW.

[@yesteryearcameras]

Great video! Good to see, that there's a reason, why the old Olympus DSLRs with the Kodak sensor are... different to the successors. The colours are great. I love it. E-400 is also very nice and so small! Keep it up! 👍🏻

[@snappiness]

I love these old Olympus DSLRs. The E300 is my favorite so far due to it's unique design - just a cool camera to look at and hold, plus those nice colors!

[@unbroken1010]

I pick the graph flex. Is 249 for the light the discount price? Or there is a code to add?

[@snappiness]

discount codes in description and pinned comment 👍

[@unbroken1010]

@@snappiness I saw no pinned comment. I saw a Amazon link. Do you use a code as you check out and then it's takes a discount or is 249 the discount? Try 800 porta if you can find it. Oh I got use one of those long codes underneath. I see. How am I suppose to remember that? 😂

[@snappiness]

@@unbroken1010 Ah, thanks. I guess I forgot to pin the comment! Fixed that. You enter the code during checkout, and if one doesn't work grab another. It should show you the final discounted price after applying the coupon BEFORE you commit to buy so you can decide.

[@unbroken1010]

@@snappiness thanks have a fun trip. Be nice to 🐕 and 🐱 😂

[@Steaphany]

I'm partial to the Sigma SD14, but then, I have two SD14s and the foveon is more film like in the resulting image since the sensor detects the full spectrum at every pixel. I have purchased two cameras since I got my SD14s, a Sigma SA9 and a Mamiya RB67

[@VOX471]

The K10D was my very first digital SLR. It was stolen along with my wonderful collection of lenses.

[@Milewskiii]

Are you shoot on 6pmpix Pentax cameras? I think you can try it: k100d or Istds - it’s (imho) the best color from all dslr market

[@snappiness]

I shot the *ist dl for a long time, but sold it for the K10D. It was very good though :)

[@oetproductions8101]

Sadly a little late to this one but I must say, your content slaps!!

[@justyjust]

I would have liked to have seen all three cameras tested on the same lens, I use my old Contax glass on many of my modern cameras using adapters.

[@atarix_official]

E300 is a legend 🔥

[@Guacamolefrito]

1.olympus 2.pentax 3.sigma But again...a bit difficult to know if post edit is happening. I got a E-300 for a few months ago and couldn't find any decent cheap lens for it, but I grabbed an adapter for pentax K bayonet since I already had a 50mm f1.4...I LOVE shooting with this combo. The colors are amazing :)!!!!

[@snappiness]

The adapter is the way to go - it's quite difficult to find native four thirds glass. Not many were made in the first place.

[@jacqueshervieux5112]

DO you know if there are any full-frame CCD cameras out there? Tried to find a list but can't seem to find anything.

[@luzr6613]

Leica M9 is ff ccd... and a lot of money. Pentax 645D is 40MP ccd, and about the same price as the Leica. That's all i know. Have a good one.

[@TeresaStanden]

Interestinng one! I was looking for a comparison betweeen the K10D which I own already and Nikon D80 which also has a 10MP CCD sensor. I also have the Sigma SD15 and a couple of lenses so will be watching that next. SD15 I find more fussy to use but definitely something more organic comes out of the Foveon Sensor. K10D can give a green tinge depending on the lens. I use the PhotoscapeX free raw editor for both. The Sigma files crash it if you dont press the buttons in the right order but it's worth the effort. Might pass on the Oly. 6:46 8:17

[@eNikoltsios]

Great video and very informative! 😊I kind of found that all of these colours didn’t produce good skin tones. As a 4th/5th camera that is used more as a novelty they could be ok, but unfortunately nothing more, especially for pro work. For a complete amateur maybe it could work as a backup camera

[@photo1416]

with the right white balance, my DP2 classic gives excellent results, including skin

[@snappiness]

I think next time I'm shooting portraits with it I'll use a grey card, I always tweak the WB a lot in post with it so it would be worth trying.

[@davidscullbonz]

I may be biased because I have one; and I really do prefer the K-10D.

[@Groovvy81]

You can actually adjust the k10 d through the debug mode, here's how to acces it For adjusting the k10D you need to have firmware 1.10 1-Turn the camera off, While pressing PLAY+OK, turn the camera on you can see firmware version on the lcd screen 2-when the firmware version apperas hit: FN FN INFO MENU within 5 seconds to get to the servie menu 3- by pressing the right key make Debug mode to debug mode then press ok (save and lcd will be black out) 4- Press MENU and go to setup tab then press the UP KEY you can now see test mode 5- Select AF TEST menu, you are now in the AF correction menu. If you have front focussing, reduce the value, If you have back focusing increase the value. After adjusting the value press ok and quit out of setup menu 6 test for focus and adjust reajust from the step 4 if you need to 7 go to service menu make debug mode to debug mode then press ok It is for general adjustment so memorize if you change lenses often, hope it helps! If you have the latest upgrade 1.31 there is a way to downgrade to 1.10 according to pentax forums, but I haven't tried it.

[@KevinSaruwatari]

I just tweaked the focus on my K10D. You put a file on the SD card and run an obscure boot sequence to get the configuration menu. I think I got the process off the Pentax forum. The biggest problem I have with portraits and studio flash is moire on cotton shirts (with a 43 Limited). I've also considered trying an Olympus CCD. I would say the skin tones are not accurate nor natural but they are interesting off CCDs.

[@snappiness]

Thanks for the tip! I will definitely be looking into that then. I've booted it into debug mode before so I'm familiar with that process at least.

[@KevinSaruwatari]

@@snappiness I forgot to mention that it tweaks the AF system globally so if you do it for your 77 it may not work for your other lenses. And you can't store settings for multiple lenses.

[@snappiness]

@@KevinSaruwatari ah, gotcha. That makes sense I guess given that the feature to save for individual lenses didn't come until later. Still good to know though.

[@XXX-vy6xv]

Any good guide on how to do it? I've found some contradicting articles on the net about it , the older ones claimed it was rather difficult. Then found some more that claim it wasn't all that difficult but I didn't quite get it as well. I own 2 bodies...both back focus a lot...wanted to use them as backup for my KP but they dont get much use because of that! (The 2nd was bought exactly because the 1st one had this issue...😁) You'd be really helpful if you knew an easy way to deal with it.

[@KevinSaruwatari]

@@XXX-vy6xv I didn't make notes on what I did but I recall seeing the same thing you mention. It seems to me the attributes on the file had to set (executable maybe?). I don't have my camera at home this weekend but I'll try to remember to get back to these comments next week.

[@Riccardo_Mori]

The Olympus E-300 setup seems to me the most agile of the three and overall the easiest to work with. I've a soft spot for this camera and its colours, so my verdict is biased. But it does look like the best of the three to me. :-) Cheers! //Rick

[@snappiness]

It really does a fantastic job. There's not many lenses for it to begin with, and then what was made can be hard to find. But they all seem like excellent quality, and just a beautiful camera all around. Loving it.

[@unbroken1010]

Why did you go with the e 300 vs a e 500 series ?

[@keithanderson6358]

Love the comparison of the older cameras. You’re also lucky to have such an amazing wife :)

[@jbp6759]

Wow that 77 limited takes a fantastic portrait! I would love to see a portrsit comparison between different Pentax bodies with that same lens. It was soooo nice. Limited fairy dust. :)

[@snappiness]

I am excited to keep shooting more with it :) Great lens.

[@5675492]

What was the last Olympus camera to use a Kodak sensor ?

[@luzr6613]

I think the 10MP CCD in the E-400 was Kodak.

[@zanisgardening123-]

I have the e300 future classic ❤

[@snappiness]

Agreed!

[@EstelonAgarwaen]

I would probably use a gx80 with the 17, 25 and 42.5mm lenses

[@danny_r27]

I have basically those lenses with the 25 and 42.5 being the Leica versions and the latter being pretty freaking big on the GX80, it was a bit ridiculous when I first mounted it because I only use it on my G9. The Leica 25mm balances pretty good on the GX80 though.

[@EstelonAgarwaen]

@@danny_r27 the oly 17 1.8 is my fav lens for general use on the gx80. The others are the lumix 1.7 Versions, of which i mostly use the 25mm for portraits, and almost never use the 42.5mm at all.

[@froreyfire]

I liked the Pentax best, Olympus second, but I don't know if its because of the camera or the Pentax limited lens. Some shots are a tad overexposed to my eye, which makes me like them less, especially #2 in the first set of mystery shots.

[@AndrewSowerby]

I'll say 1. Oly, 2. Sigma, 3. Pentax You did a good job correcting those tricky Sigma colours. To my eye, and I know it's YT and dependent on the screen you view it on, those SOOC colours looked pretty nasty. After you corrected them, the results were pretty nice, maybe a bit magenta shifted (previous caveat applies). With my patience levels, I think I'd be converting everything to monochrome! That Oly 50mm f/2 macro looks like a peach of a lens, not only in this vid but also based on reviews and images samples I've seen. How does it handle? Is been on my radar since getting into MFT in 2020, but the adapter is kind of pricy. I didn't really think about just getting an old four-thirds body to use it natively (I can be hard on thinking sometimes!). I thought it would be a bit clinical for portraits and that the 77mm would be a clear winner, but it did a really good job. Last but not least, your wife did a great job in front of the camera - she's a natural.

[@robiulahmed]

I don't know which ones which, but no.3 was easily the best.

[@snappiness]

The answers are in my pinned comment. :D Thanks for watching

[@Elix17]

1) Pentax 2) Sigma 3) Olympus. Olympus FTW

[@snappiness]

I do love the Olympus! :) Answers in my pinned comment!

[@Elix17]

@@snappiness okay, you got me! I guess I'll have to try K10D now :) Thanks for the video!

[@Sparky_oto]

Is it true that DSLR systems don’t match mirrorless systems in terms of lens sharpness and AF speed / accuracy? I member switching from Nikon d80 to Fujifilm XF and was really impressed with the high ISO and general image quality improvement, but that would have been a lens improvement as well rather than strictly only sensor

[@StrangelyIronic]

Olympus really held its own, Olympus really tried (I guess you could say tries, but honestly I think the OM-System glass we're getting now is just the last of Olympus R&D) to match (Micro) Four Thirds with some amazing glass that helped it compete and render as much as possible without being clinical if that makes sense. I'm still an MFT user, and probably will keep being one until the lenses that I can't replace on other systems (either at all or due to prices) can't be found for decent prices down the line. I did have a K-1.II, but I sold it because I never used it for work over my KP, and selling the K-1.II gave me a couple lenses I'd rather have than a dust collecting body. Colors wise I like Olympus and Pentax pretty much even. I've never particularly liked foveon output, to be honest. I've seen blind tests with Olympus SOC vs Sigma in the past, and there wasn't enough to make me want to use Sigma's processing solution again. I actually do love the fp and fp L, despite their flaws; one reason being it's not foveon. I'd love an sd-quattro shell with a faster readout aps-c sensor + ibis package, e-shutter only is fine for me, and with the required longer flange hacked off in favor of L-mount.

[@derekcoe9633]

Personally I like the Olympus, I like the size of it and how it looks/handles.. if I can find one I might treat myself

[@snappiness]

It's a really neat camera! It uses a vertical mirror that is really clever. Like the Olympus Pen half frame camera.

[@benjamindejonge3624]

CCD was my favourite

[@thursmornsunlight]

Got mine a couple of weeks ago xD a E-300 and now it won’t turn on haha damn it my money lol 😅

[@jimmyhinAK]

I just learned something I didn’t know sigma made cameras

[@GiulioSciorio]

Nice video! Any camera since 2004 on is more than good enough but new tech is always fun. I shot several commissions with the Olympus E1 and E300, mainly magazine covers and advertising work. Both are fine cameras but I never enjoyed the E300 like I did the E1. Sadly, as Olympus stopped supporting pros I moved onto other DSLRs but I did enjoy the color of the Olympus cameras and the build of the E1 (which always broke lol)

[@relaxingappalachia503]

I wonder if old waterproof ccd cameras last longer since the sensor doesn't get affected by moisture. If anyone knows a good one for me to try out, let me know :)

[@TMM6900]

Picture 1 looka real good

[@olesjor]

My guesses: 1 Olympus 2 Sigma 3 Pentax My favorite are No. 3

[@snappiness]

Thanks for watching! I'll come back and add a comment with the answers. Want to give people more chances to keep guessing :D

[@thepirateshoots]

Oooooo these Sigma colors 😅😜😢. Btw which cam had the best fun factor? I would have picked the Olympus, liked the colors!

[@y200yk]

Pentax k10d the best

[@snappiness]

I love it :)

[@neilpiper9889]

Nikon D40 and Ricoh Grd digital 8.1 megapixel from 2005

[@snappiness]

Cool! Those old GR digitals look like really nice cameras!

[@innstikk]

It seems you underexposed the first SD14 image (which one should not do) and never use AUTO in SPP.

[@GrainyWorld]

Thanks

[@snappiness]

Well thank you for watching :)

[@Milewskiii]

It’s not so simple! At first, Best color from Pef you can give only in Silkypix Developer studio or Pentax Digital Camera Utility. At second, I think, you should to use one lens for all of cameras, it had a good idea. At third.. only Flash, something from Godox, maybe ad600. Sorry for my language, I try:)

[@snappiness]

Yes, a test of just the sensor performance would work better using the same M42 lenses. I used lightroom for all the cameras to keep that part even. I'll have to play with using Silkypix for the Pentax. I did once a long time ago and did not like it, but maybe it is best? :) Thanks for watching.

[@martlet530]

Any thoughts on E-1 vs E-300 iq? BTW - GREAT VIDEO !!!

[@sulaimanahmed013]

My guesses would be. 1. Sigma 2. Pentax 3. Olympus

[@snappiness]

I'll come back in a bit and post the answers in a pinned comment or something :) thanks for guessing!

[@superalien4781]

Olympus E-300 is the best

[@giannagiavelli5098]

Fiji S5. Beats them all

[@QuicknStraight]

The Sigma produces very strange photos. They look like the model (your wife) has been cut and pasted onto the background. I really like Pentax DSLRs, generally, and Pentax lenses are also pretty good. I'd take the Pentax first, Olympus 2nd and I wouldn't touch the Sigma with a barge pole.

[@QuicknStraight]

@Phillip Banes Duh. Obviously. I am just saying that it produces strange looking photos.

[@jarosawzon4272]

1. olympus 2. sigma 3. pentax

[@snappiness]

I just posted the answers in a pinned comment! Thanks for watching and guessing :)

[@erichung9043]

I prefer the skin tones from the Sigma.

[@froreyfire]

You got a few very nice cameras and a very pretty wife!

[@SuperZarkosis]

1- oly 2 - sigma 3 - pentax ?

[@snappiness]

I'll post the answer as a pinned comment in a little bit! Thanks for watching!

[@randelcooprider6013]

E300 less work in post.

[@snappiness]

It's a good advantage. Really like the colors out of it out of the box

[@misterstratocaster]

Foveon? HAHAHAHAHAHA

[@RobertLeeAtYT]

Hmmm... The Pentax and Olympus are almost indistinguishable. The Sigma, well, it's just pretty awful isn't it.

[@jrcerts]

Haha. I agree. Between the K10D and the E-300, they were both lovely with the perspective being the telling difference in my opinion. The Sigma was harsh.

[@snappiness]

It's really tough to work with... And I'm the first to admit that I am not a very good editor, especially for portraits and color, so I'm sure a better editor could get more out of the files.

[@robertleidner9703]

Don’t understand this comparison… all these cameras are terrible for anything. I’d rather shoot film or a D700 that you can pick up for $200

[@blekfut5763]

You certainly know your stuff, but your photos are just really bad :(

[@lolno1474]

Ngl all the colors look terrible 😂

[@XXX-vy6xv]

Definitely wanna see more of that kind of videos. * Now I've watched the rest of the video as well 😂 I'd say 1. Olympus 2.Sigma 3.Pentax ? ? ? ? Oh...and whats up with those K10ds...are there any that don't back focus? (I've read there is still a way for focus adjustment even though it's not offered as an in-camera menu option.

[@snappiness]

Oh interesting, I'll have to dig into that. Like when you enable debug mode or something? It seems to do fine with my other lenses, so I think it may just be the lens. I had to do adjustments for it on my K-1 too. I'd return the lens, but I got it for $200 so that seems more than fair for now.

[@XXX-vy6xv]

@@snappiness yes, something like this as far as I remember. And you have to have the firmware updated to 1.10 at least....I think. But everything I read about seemed too confusing for my understanding about stuff like that. I own 2 bodies and both back focus severely, kinda frustrating considering you cannot use liveview as a focusing aid as well. Should you find a way, a video would be kinda cool... 😎😎😎😁

[@XXX-vy6xv]

@@snappiness 200$ for a 77ltd? 😱😱😱😱😱

[@snappiness]

@@XXX-vy6xv that's one of the reasons I got a split focusing screen for it. Helps a lot with manual focusing!

[@snappiness]

@@XXX-vy6xv yeah, really lucky :) I had been watching for one for a long time. I prefer black, but at that price I am okay with silver :)