"Snasen tech" showcase #4: IDJ (Instant double jump)

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@SnasenSmash
@SnasenSmash 4 жыл бұрын
Two more methods for GCC users: - With Y and X as jump = Y +/-> A -> X - With B and X as jump = B +/-> A -> X I know that the L trigger can be tricky for this tech, but these methods has been tested successfully by multiple GCC users.
@stoodyy
@stoodyy 4 жыл бұрын
what about Y +/->A -> Z? it’s time for the lab
@SnasenSmash
@SnasenSmash 4 жыл бұрын
Stoody There’s countless methods, just gotta find out what works best for you, but yeah that method sounds legit 😁
@luckyshot6193
@luckyshot6193 4 жыл бұрын
@Snasen is it possible to use the R trigger instead of The L trigger ?
@SnasenSmash
@SnasenSmash 4 жыл бұрын
Luckyshot Yup! I know that multiple people use R instead
@izzylife147
@izzylife147 4 жыл бұрын
i have jump as R n struggling the aerial and the jump coming out but not the second one no matter how fast i press it
@FatalityFalcon
@FatalityFalcon 4 жыл бұрын
😈👌
@SnasenSmash
@SnasenSmash 4 жыл бұрын
😇👍
@deadproject8548
@deadproject8548 4 жыл бұрын
@@SnasenSmash did you discover this?
@Roy2034
@Roy2034 4 жыл бұрын
A sleeping giant has just awaken
@just-rey2324
@just-rey2324 4 жыл бұрын
He discovered all tech in his showcase videos, that’s why they are so good😍
@violetbrown6712
@violetbrown6712 4 жыл бұрын
And now we know fatality is killing everyone with this tech
@GimR
@GimR 4 жыл бұрын
This is sick!
@cadenlikespigs
@cadenlikespigs 4 жыл бұрын
GimR what are you thinking about...🤔
@bexywan5244
@bexywan5244 4 жыл бұрын
Back to the lab again!
@TigerKwan
@TigerKwan 4 жыл бұрын
UH OH BACK TO THE LAB AGAIN OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@SnasenSmash
@SnasenSmash 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it, GimR! And yeah, agreed! 😁
@huey7987
@huey7987 4 жыл бұрын
Uh oh.
@colinhay1666
@colinhay1666 4 жыл бұрын
Remember during the Byleth reveal when Sakurai was like, "and this is his Nair, it's great to combo with." Now we know...
@AverageDoctor345
@AverageDoctor345 4 жыл бұрын
Sakurai is seven meta-shifting techs ahead of us.
@hedvent2692
@hedvent2692 4 жыл бұрын
@@AverageDoctor345 lmao
@Pr0ject_Dusk
@Pr0ject_Dusk 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I've been known 😆
@anonymousn1nja
@anonymousn1nja 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pr0ject_Dusk nah
@Burntayo
@Burntayo 3 жыл бұрын
@@anonymousn1nja I'm on tapjump a knew about this way before this video a used it for bowser up throw combos lol
@imESAM
@imESAM 4 жыл бұрын
the editing for the ~9:40 segmentw as so godlike
@ejstephens7918
@ejstephens7918 4 жыл бұрын
That mario double hit had me kinda me hype
@huh9400
@huh9400 4 жыл бұрын
I think the editing software he used was called g0 130x1ng r1ng or something like that idk if I should use it or not
@stevendaily3695
@stevendaily3695 4 жыл бұрын
ESAM hi ESAM- Swag master
@thehomie7481
@thehomie7481 4 жыл бұрын
GO BOXING RING
@nj3690
@nj3690 4 жыл бұрын
How do you think this will influence the meta?
@ExceedRed
@ExceedRed 4 жыл бұрын
I guess Byleth’s combo tree just turned into a more technical Palutena combo tree
@AbeDorf18
@AbeDorf18 4 жыл бұрын
Byleths nair is actually, in the opinion of the bylethcord lab team, superior to palutenas nair. And it has a far more complexity free. It being better is definitely debatable, but theres no question that byleths nair has quite the diverse combo tree in comparison to palus nair-nair-nair-upair rinse and repeat. This video only scratches the surface.
@rookeyji5177
@rookeyji5177 4 жыл бұрын
@@AbeDorf18 but palus nair to nair to nair to nair is all she needs lol your fuming if u think byleths nair is better lol.Palus has a better hitbox and is more disjointed and its hitbox is more active and is better in calling out jump and edguarding
@sullivanish
@sullivanish 4 жыл бұрын
Well I think byleth has a better nair but Palutena is a better character and because of her speed she ends up getting more reward with her nair compared to byleth’s nair
@Endershock1678
@Endershock1678 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Hendricks I always said (even back when I maimed Palu), that Byleth's nair if optimized was better than Palu's because of its sending angle for edge guarding, complex nature giving you way more versatility, and insane drag down shenanigans, and if IDJ is mastered, that will definitely ring true.
@mzisaperson7925
@mzisaperson7925 4 жыл бұрын
Welp time to rewatch This 50 times
@MicroCheese64
@MicroCheese64 4 жыл бұрын
These lab combos make me feel so inadequate after 700+ hrs of playing ultimate.
@sm5925
@sm5925 4 жыл бұрын
you're not the only one
@RawmGarcia
@RawmGarcia 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@Khanso1o
@Khanso1o 4 жыл бұрын
Same.. it’s so hard for me to do I don’t even consider myself good at this game anymore
@Lil_mar00
@Lil_mar00 4 жыл бұрын
sadly i'm in the same boat. what have i even been doing this entire time?
@jackeduptbh
@jackeduptbh 4 жыл бұрын
make the number larger and over time the gap will close
@SirWrexes
@SirWrexes 4 жыл бұрын
9:38 Today I learned : Snake Dair, when sped up, sounds like an AK47.
@ejstephens7918
@ejstephens7918 4 жыл бұрын
What I'm getting from this, is that I should be terrified of optimized Chrom
@issysito320
@issysito320 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kiba114 they are both as good as each other. optimised is prolly better than roy
@yackamajez
@yackamajez 4 жыл бұрын
And optimized puff
@orionl.8491
@orionl.8491 4 жыл бұрын
Optimal chrom looks terrifying, but optimal ness is literally stuff of nightmares. Multimags and loads of damage out of everything.
@sonpham3438
@sonpham3438 4 жыл бұрын
Optimal sheik is super scary
@orionl.8491
@orionl.8491 4 жыл бұрын
@@sonpham3438 true
@Flay10
@Flay10 4 жыл бұрын
It's the year 20XX, Smash Pros have mastered IDJ and almost every character except little mac have touch of death combos. SDI has become so meta that people are going back to Smash 4 to finally have a chance of beating Bayonetta
@clappypappy7677
@clappypappy7677 4 жыл бұрын
My guy owen!! I Found u here??????
@Endershock1678
@Endershock1678 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Little Mac drops on the tier list because of this. Going from F Tier to FF Tier.
@Flay10
@Flay10 4 жыл бұрын
@@Endershock1678 we should call it "Canceled tier" at this point
@lFede64l
@lFede64l 4 жыл бұрын
@@Endershock1678 Roll MVC2 be like: *Welcome to the back of the bus my nigga*
@Flay10
@Flay10 4 жыл бұрын
@a guy have I found a fellow Punpun enjoyer?
@ArgonGamesYT
@ArgonGamesYT 4 жыл бұрын
This is actually meta changing. Time to lab! Awesome video, really informative!
@prestonsasaki
@prestonsasaki 4 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say that instant double jump aerials is the future
@gluessb
@gluessb 4 жыл бұрын
@@prestonsasaki parrying? never heard of her
@xfhEgo
@xfhEgo 4 жыл бұрын
Lol saw your video
@DJKrisyKrisdude
@DJKrisyKrisdude 4 жыл бұрын
The sheer amount of work dedicated to making this video, deserves a hell of a lot more views than what you have now. Especially considering how actually useful this can be.
@FrenzyLight
@FrenzyLight 4 жыл бұрын
You are the greatest
@SnasenSmash
@SnasenSmash 4 жыл бұрын
Frenzy Light Oh, you!!
@xbgsheikiii3593
@xbgsheikiii3593 4 жыл бұрын
Snasen 12:01 yes i'm in smash 4 =)
@googa9689
@googa9689 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you update the bnb videos with this and also toon link bnb when?
@SirWrexes
@SirWrexes 4 жыл бұрын
Yoshi's rising Uair comboing into itself is truly terrifying.
@slice768
@slice768 4 жыл бұрын
I am definitely not gonna have a fun time against yoshi
@furiousleviathan
@furiousleviathan 4 жыл бұрын
@@slice768 no one likes yoshi hahaha
@IslaCarruthers909
@IslaCarruthers909 4 жыл бұрын
@@furiousleviathan I know it's an unpopular opinion but I enjoy playing with and against Yoshi.
@leifpeterson4850
@leifpeterson4850 4 жыл бұрын
It did that before
@brayanmiranda9158
@brayanmiranda9158 4 жыл бұрын
the kill confirm at 19:35 is enough for me to learn this. But losing your DJ as a Yoshi is not very appealing.
@yesno4628
@yesno4628 4 жыл бұрын
snasen is the god of smash labbing
@iamspikefire
@iamspikefire 4 жыл бұрын
Him and MGK Ganondorf need to do a fusion dance then boom best technical player on the planet
@Lucky_Seven48
@Lucky_Seven48 4 жыл бұрын
HBox needs to know about the new rest confirm on platforms
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
hell yeah
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
assuming he wants to play ultimate, the grind is not easy
@knightofthenorth926
@knightofthenorth926 4 жыл бұрын
He knows about IDJ with puff, but he hasn't labbed or implemented it at all.
@UltimateGin
@UltimateGin 4 жыл бұрын
Only few puff use idj well
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateGin even so is so so handy for tech chase scenarios in platform stages
@CrimsonSkul
@CrimsonSkul 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best guides I have ever seen! We should be paying money for this!!!
@nesswednesday2976
@nesswednesday2976 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the demonstrations make the represented characters look godlike (except for that one Pit clip that could've been something hype if Nair worked better).
@mr.fodder7260
@mr.fodder7260 4 жыл бұрын
cause puff is godlike
@Leap623
@Leap623 4 жыл бұрын
This seems pretty difficult but probably meta-changing for Pro players. Some of these combos are honestly mind-blowing with how much they could shake up certain matchups. Really well put together video and really impressive tech with a ton of potential.
@nicksalvatore5717
@nicksalvatore5717 4 жыл бұрын
It’s super easy with tap jump if you’re buffering
@moisteist8166
@moisteist8166 4 жыл бұрын
this is not meta changing ppl have already done this we just didnt have a name for it until now. T_T
@mitheww
@mitheww 4 жыл бұрын
@@moisteist8166 for the people who say they've been doing this, most of them dont do a frame perfect idj which is what is so insane about whats shown in the vid
@moisteist8166
@moisteist8166 4 жыл бұрын
I agree its insane and with practice this can do something about smash current meta but im just its simply isn't new tech
@moisteist8166
@moisteist8166 4 жыл бұрын
I like that byleth clip the most 🙃
@Oz1455
@Oz1455 4 жыл бұрын
I really like seeing this game evolve to become even greater, instead of people using the new mechanics to just play more passive and boring (I see this plenty, online). And just when we thought Peach doing an instant 60-70% was impressive, apparently a lot of other characters can optimize their own combos to great extends. And as to the whole thing, this is lovely. I'm glad there's extra technical skill to work on, and one that's actually very useful. One of the first things that came to mind when seeing this, was with Corrin's FH Fair. They could really expand on their combos as early as 20% back in Smash 4, and it's great to see it back. I want to see how far I can push this as a Zelda and Byleth main...
@jmm00702
@jmm00702 4 жыл бұрын
Been using this to extend shiek combos for ages, had no idea it wasnt an known tech lol
@sonpham3438
@sonpham3438 4 жыл бұрын
gazboost, it‘s more like nobody thought about it how useful it is.
@jmm00702
@jmm00702 4 жыл бұрын
@@sonpham3438 kinda weird, i just started doing it when watching void trying to extend a sheik ftilt fair dair dragdown chain to higher percents, he said, "maybe with a double jump", he tried it once, nearly got it but stopped trying. I went try it and realized with a pretty quick dj, which did have kind of a tight timing, it could actually extend her dragdown combos, filling the early-mid percents so you could get 0-stupid high percents from most combo starters. This was over half a year ago, pre quarantine times. Its so strage that a big labber like void knew about it but noone thought itd be useful when being a combo tool it obviously is lol...
@sonpham3438
@sonpham3438 4 жыл бұрын
gazboost, I mean you could see as very specific tech and not being applicable universally
@a76101
@a76101 4 жыл бұрын
A 30 minute Snasen video showcasing amazing tech? I'm in.
@Blizarrow
@Blizarrow 4 жыл бұрын
Like we say in my language : C'EST MAGNIFIQUE !!
@stephane8756
@stephane8756 4 жыл бұрын
Blizarrow oui c’est magnifique
@nucleartree8159
@nucleartree8159 4 жыл бұрын
Haha I'm Irish too🇮🇪🇮🇪
@Maelthorn1337
@Maelthorn1337 4 жыл бұрын
MUY BIEN Happy to see a fellow Norwegian. c:
@Takujaki
@Takujaki 4 жыл бұрын
I'm calling it now: this is the best thing that happened in 2020!
@awesometown1000
@awesometown1000 4 жыл бұрын
You called your shot too early it seems
@Takujaki
@Takujaki 4 жыл бұрын
@@awesometown1000 i dont think steve will impact smashs metagame as much as idj, but I like to be surprized by the patch notes
@sayn4888
@sayn4888 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus mario was already terrifying on platforms with his fast frame data
@franciscoromero2913
@franciscoromero2913 4 жыл бұрын
Please show this dude some love by liking and subscribing, you can tell he put in a lot time and effort into this video.
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
this is only the beginning of smash ultimate I cant imagine when everything is settle and no patches are over, the real grind and competitive will be brutal
@SOLO-gd6en
@SOLO-gd6en 4 жыл бұрын
Game is out for 2 years lol
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
@@SOLO-gd6en :) and patches are not over yet, plus we havnt gotten all dlc pack 2
@SOLO-gd6en
@SOLO-gd6en 4 жыл бұрын
@@Magic0YT dont say its the beginning tho smash 4 only lasted for 4 years.
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
@@SOLO-gd6en this isnt smash 4, hope you get it
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
because quarantine took over, but for real it is not a game where you can abuse or exploit cancel or with no endlag animations all the time. And still techs are being found regardless.
@starlord0o072
@starlord0o072 4 жыл бұрын
THIS. This is what Ultimate brings to the table in movement.
@zumirelix
@zumirelix 4 жыл бұрын
This is kind of insane.
@hodstrat3722
@hodstrat3722 4 жыл бұрын
29:12 So funny how it sync to the music lmao Nice tech, I hope top players use it more 😀
@gabaghoul4492
@gabaghoul4492 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like I’ve been playing this game wrong the whole time
@DennisPing
@DennisPing 4 жыл бұрын
The hand camera makes the guide 100x better.
@trilby5223
@trilby5223 4 жыл бұрын
Every character just got a buff without a patch. I love it when this happens
@vidswithliam4243
@vidswithliam4243 4 жыл бұрын
Dude people ain’t mentioning how goddamn disgusting Palu looks with this. She gets new combos AND she gets down throw bair back? She didn’t need this lmao
@ChillavaKirby
@ChillavaKirby 4 жыл бұрын
I think we just don’t want to talk about it...
@nomanm.5884
@nomanm.5884 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChillavaKirby yeah, for all the good that this brings for my main, im terrified about other characters' tech becoming too op now
@sparrow_solas
@sparrow_solas 4 жыл бұрын
except now everybody can make their opponent go from 0 to 60, so palu isnt as busted anymore
@nomanm.5884
@nomanm.5884 4 жыл бұрын
@@sparrow_solas not everyone. Its like 10 or so characters that benefit from this, some only marginally. Palu is definitely still busted
@sparrow_solas
@sparrow_solas 4 жыл бұрын
@@nomanm.5884 did we watch the same video? "not everyone"
@byroneplus
@byroneplus 4 жыл бұрын
God dude I play falcon and this is a game changer, melee boy is back😂
@dumithegreat3892
@dumithegreat3892 4 жыл бұрын
nah, until UAir is given it’s old hitbox back with more hitstun, and Knee is given reduced landing lag, he’ll still just be nerfed Falcon.
@luckyboiinthenow5732
@luckyboiinthenow5732 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy with the character I just wanna get better
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
a lot of falcon mains in ult are people who played melee, is fun to discover new techs in ult tbh.
@dumithegreat3892
@dumithegreat3892 4 жыл бұрын
@@Magic0YT he's a fun character, don't get me wrong, but having combos drop because you're playing someone who knows the DI, and escape options feels incredibly bad. he needs more guaranteed combo routes to be anywhere near as good as in Melee or PM. i just wish Nintendo would actually fix UAir, because rn the move is barley acceptable.
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
Idk about that, I guess all falcon mains would like to have more easy kill setups but is just how it goes. some characters will get patches and some others will not even be touched. Is just the way it goes
@RanserSSF4
@RanserSSF4 4 жыл бұрын
regarding the "Claw Grip" you can do IDJ like the first 2 examples without the need of attack canceling. Slightly harder to do, but once you get it down on muscle memory, it's easy to do.
@SnasenSmash
@SnasenSmash 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is true, it might’ve sounded like I was limiting claw grip to the 3rd method.. afff should’ve mentioned it 😅 thanks for pointing it out though.
@bobskinny361
@bobskinny361 4 жыл бұрын
Ive Mapped both right shoulder buttons to jump and i slide my finger across tjem
@Clubvirg
@Clubvirg 4 жыл бұрын
Dear god, I think I just had a vision of the apocalypse. STELLAR job at labbing this out, and making this video so comprehensible. I plan on hitting the lab today.
@mercuriosity3133
@mercuriosity3133 4 жыл бұрын
Another 2 methods for GCC users that I personally found easier than the ones mentioned by Snasen: You need to set Z to jump for this one, and use Z+/->A->Y/X. if you want to do it super easy, Z+/->A->L. The advantage of this control scheme is that you are not required to hit jump and attack with 1 finger/thumb. Super useful for those with smaller/thinner fingers. I also think having 1 finger for each input makes timing the inputs easier and less strenuous on your fingers. Personally, I am very used to Z jump, so sliding my finger off it is very natural (almost like try to do a short hop). The way I would practice this if you are unfamiliar with Z jump is to try short-hopping with it (to understand the jump timing and release for the IDJ input). Then add your other jump button (X/Y/L) right after the short hop input. If you are able to get the IDJ, congrats! You can now add an attack and try doing it in neutral. For doing it out of attacks, it depends on the move FAF you are doing it out of (if you want to try hit confirming into IDJ, use a move with high hitlag/hitstop so it is slightly easier to react). Note: Using L makes it very consistent and easy, since it is simply a timing execution. Using L also allows you to use the C stick IDJ without tap jump! Very useful, but your shield and grab will need to be remapped (I would recommend moving shield to X/Y since it will be on an face button and not a trigger, which will slightly increases non-buffered inputs for shield). Hope this helped, to those having difficulty. I can now IDJ consistently (about 8 out of 10 times last night, and it took half an hour to get used to the timing). Good luck and have fun optimizing your combos!
@SnasenSmash
@SnasenSmash 4 жыл бұрын
Mercuriosity These are really good suggestions! Thanks for thorough explanation.
@startofive4365
@startofive4365 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. The worst part about it was that it ended.
@thehuffpuff10
@thehuffpuff10 4 жыл бұрын
This changes the game.
@brandoamvs
@brandoamvs 4 жыл бұрын
This Octopath ost made the video even better, thanks 🥂
@scitails
@scitails 3 жыл бұрын
Octopath OST makes everything better
@bone_ftw
@bone_ftw 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, are game is evolving
@H4ri4n
@H4ri4n 4 жыл бұрын
Watch Steve be a character who relies on idjs.
@dean988
@dean988 3 жыл бұрын
Steve idjs on a jump and places a block after to do another idj
@Ludvix
@Ludvix 4 жыл бұрын
BRO this is an amazing video
@pkpantheryt3326
@pkpantheryt3326 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd see the day where a Ludvix comment has only 2 likes
@elliotjohns255
@elliotjohns255 4 жыл бұрын
holy cow watching this really makes me realize how cucked out we got with instant short hop aerials, if only we could disable it at least then instead of learning this new input we could just you know press jump and A
@AbeDorf18
@AbeDorf18 4 жыл бұрын
Elliot Johns am i missing something? That would just be a buffered fullhop aerial which would be useful in its own right for sure, but that wouldnt input an IDJ aerial.
@ChillavaKirby
@ChillavaKirby 4 жыл бұрын
You’re just now figuring this out 😔
@bionicallyacomputer292
@bionicallyacomputer292 4 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@adjmonkey
@adjmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
@@AbeDorf18 The Whole point of this is that you can start an aerial 1 frame sooner since you can buffer it. Everything else would be the same if they didn’t have the shorthop macro, except for losing dj
@sclom5676
@sclom5676 3 жыл бұрын
@@adjmonkey you know that double jump is a different hight that fullhop right? Therefore it would work differently
@henrysleight7768
@henrysleight7768 4 жыл бұрын
Tysm for doing all this work! This is the kind of tech the Ultimate community needs, and this is the kind of content we need to rally around.
@KeleuHerdley
@KeleuHerdley 4 жыл бұрын
0:27 *Rare footage of Yoshi being a sick character*
@Its_Koala
@Its_Koala 4 жыл бұрын
This video is the gold standard of tech showcase and really all smash educational videos. Fuckin amazing explanations mate.
@clairekennedy7719
@clairekennedy7719 4 жыл бұрын
This allows bayo rising aerials out of Shield to actually land on characters
@timetotango9453
@timetotango9453 4 жыл бұрын
Why so?
@clairekennedy7719
@clairekennedy7719 4 жыл бұрын
Time to Tango! Harmony Her aerials hitboxes come out surprisingly late and she has really high jumps so the only character I can think of that rising nair out of shield would work on would be rosa Instant double jump increases the hit box size of rising aerials which allows bayo to actually land them on characters who have just landed and are in lag. So it’s a reliable out of Shield option to have if you are able to input idj reliably
@timetotango9453
@timetotango9453 4 жыл бұрын
@@clairekennedy7719 I see, thanks about that! i'll try it asap
@dasuberpanda
@dasuberpanda 4 жыл бұрын
i think outside of kill confirms, its not a great trick to use in neutral for bayo, since you lose 2 witch twists. That said, it definitely makes uptilt into bair a more likely 100% kill confirm.
@clairekennedy7719
@clairekennedy7719 4 жыл бұрын
@@dasuberpanda yeah it just makes certain things for her more consistent though she doesn’t benefit as much as some other characters like Falcon and sheik
@meteorite1209
@meteorite1209 4 жыл бұрын
Really great video, I love the way you break down the parts step by step to show how, why, and under what DIs/scenarios they work
@princessdaisy7307
@princessdaisy7307 4 жыл бұрын
this game has changed forever
@Colorondo8
@Colorondo8 4 жыл бұрын
Instant double jump is actually super easy if you primarily use Tap jump. Just press up on the stick and x at pretty much the same time and there you go. I also put IDJ in my tap jump video too, it's super good.
@retierashia
@retierashia 2 жыл бұрын
IDJ is a very underrated tech.
@DADP90
@DADP90 4 жыл бұрын
Beautifully crafted tutorial. Great discovery! Excited to see the new tech breath some fresh air into the game.
@bigcheese6417
@bigcheese6417 4 жыл бұрын
Combos went from barely working past 3 hits to, "How far can I take them from one side of the stage to the other?"
@mute_cebu_
@mute_cebu_ 4 жыл бұрын
GimR level info, a wealth of helpful examples, and really good character specific tips. This is top tier content.
@vyq6014
@vyq6014 4 жыл бұрын
Sick stuff man! You put so much work into this I can tell! Well done, respect!
@SnasenSmash
@SnasenSmash 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, vyQ! That means a lot coming from you!
@johnmallory9540
@johnmallory9540 4 жыл бұрын
For those having trouble. The first jump needs to be a short hop in order for it to work. That's why it's easier to do with 'x' and 'y'. It can actually be done slow at first and then done within the 4 fps after some practice.
@thtguyericcc1811
@thtguyericcc1811 4 жыл бұрын
This is comment single handedly helped me be able to get these way more consistently. Went from like 20% success rate to like 60%
@r.i.petika829
@r.i.petika829 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been unintentionally doing this with falcon because of my Melee habits, lol.
@dddmemaybe
@dddmemaybe 4 жыл бұрын
13:08 Thank you so much for this beauty. I tend to be an artist myself and It's nice to see others in the field.
@jacobnewman2494
@jacobnewman2494 4 жыл бұрын
People who have used falcos active hop be like "That looks familiar"
@moisteist8166
@moisteist8166 4 жыл бұрын
thank you someone with a brain. This tech has always been here ppl just didnt have a name for it
@B10401
@B10401 4 жыл бұрын
@@moisteist8166 Yeah I did it with sheik up airs but didn't know what I was doing or why I got way worse at it when I turned off tap jump. Good vid still.
@moisteist8166
@moisteist8166 4 жыл бұрын
@@B10401 tap jump helps
@bionicallyacomputer292
@bionicallyacomputer292 4 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@olbluelips
@olbluelips 4 жыл бұрын
Best tech video for Ultimate I have seen! :) I used to use IDJs a good amount when I was using tap jump, but now it's too hard without it. glad to see I can still use IDJ after all!
@flamnyan5360
@flamnyan5360 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: “Chrom’s recovery is holding him back so much...” The best Chrom: *”Hold my IDJ”*
@sullivanish
@sullivanish 4 жыл бұрын
Suddenly his onstage is even better... but his recovery is still bad
@flamnyan5360
@flamnyan5360 4 жыл бұрын
Sullivan Lee but u see that’s the point they won’t have enough stocks by the time they get him offstage...👌
@stoodyy
@stoodyy 4 жыл бұрын
that young link combo to the uair😭 amazing!
@milkcube7396
@milkcube7396 4 жыл бұрын
I use this tech a *lot*, lol. Cool to see it being actually showcased. It's good for Lucas
@MSTRProductions
@MSTRProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Saw your post on Twitter. This deserves a like and follow. Thank you for all of your hard work!
@bionicallyacomputer292
@bionicallyacomputer292 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats to everyone else finding out about this. Active hopping is 🔥 for falco and sure that it's the same for the rest.
@anarchy1100
@anarchy1100 4 жыл бұрын
as a gren main i will be sure to lab this out
@Erstadan
@Erstadan 4 жыл бұрын
the frame-perfect turnaround into the hard version of IDJ (4 frame timing) at 15:47 YLink combo is nuts
@MastaSalsa
@MastaSalsa 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh you're a monster of labbing
@wildwlf2611
@wildwlf2611 3 жыл бұрын
Just a little tip for those who have a hard time with going from pressing jump to attack and jump, it's better to jump -> jump again-> then attack since if you do that, then you can pull it off easier Basically Y/X(tap to short hop)->L/R(press for full hop)->A/C-stick (input any attack) This works for me since with young link, down tilt at 120% to 140% can lead to a double full hop dair
@kaioshinon5954
@kaioshinon5954 4 жыл бұрын
OK I'm at 15:54 mins in and this is already a masterpiece.... smash ultimate has a lot to show in 2020/09.... and never end. thx Snasen, really really... well done!
@Skapes11238
@Skapes11238 4 жыл бұрын
Quite a few characters discords discovered this a while ago but were limiting this ability to 1 or 2 specific situations. Glad to see someone finally make a fully in depth tutorial that spans across all characters. This is big for the punish and combo game in smash. Melee style punishes are just on the horizon! Great work!
@franciscoromero2913
@franciscoromero2913 4 жыл бұрын
Man....this game starting to feel like melee. With so much tech just being discovered.
@GawainSSB
@GawainSSB 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I find these crazy inputs harder than just pushing the button twice lol
@ChiIexican
@ChiIexican 4 жыл бұрын
THIS TECH IS REVOLUTIONARY!!! Omg im so excited to master this. i wonder how long it took u to make this video and how long it took to master this urself!?
@Mattinvent3
@Mattinvent3 3 жыл бұрын
bruh your such a god for this still cant believe how sick these combos are. reminding you your godlike
@Ryusuta
@Ryusuta 4 жыл бұрын
This looks like it might be a bit of a help for Little Mac when fighting someone camping a platform. Though it would also be pretty high-risk. Who knows. Maybe I'll need to lab it.
@rouge-ish324
@rouge-ish324 4 жыл бұрын
Unless he can land on the platform, probably not. Gl tho
@Ryusuta
@Ryusuta 4 жыл бұрын
@@rouge-ish324 As a matter of fact, it does! I tested it and it gets Mac to the Smashville and Kalos platforms! No idea how much this will change things, but it certainly feels like a HUGE help to Mac.
@HypnoticSwitch
@HypnoticSwitch 4 жыл бұрын
I remember doing this stuff with tap jump a while back, but always thought it was something that everyone knew already.
@dasnoivern
@dasnoivern 4 жыл бұрын
9:17 for my Ridley brethren out there.
@dannythor2012
@dannythor2012 4 жыл бұрын
I can see some good combo potential from forward air and neutral air at low percentage. Might have lab this. It could be a big difference in the ridley meta as his landing lag is really bad
@Maelthorn1337
@Maelthorn1337 4 жыл бұрын
You deserve some kind of award for this video. I'm only 3:30 in and the overall quality is phenomenal. The green screen with both game cube and pro controller demonstrations, clear and concise delivery on the voice over/narration, in game demonstrations, on screen button inputs added in post... I don't even know if I'll like any of your other videos but based off from only 10% of this video I've liked and favorited it, and subscribed to your channel. Goddamn man.
@EdwardFeinho
@EdwardFeinho 4 жыл бұрын
So you're saying that with this you can true combo down throw to knee at 60% with DI in? Bruh.
@iamspikefire
@iamspikefire 4 жыл бұрын
I AM LABBING THIS SO HARD YOU HAVE NO IDEA OML THANK YOUUUUU
@olbluelips
@olbluelips 4 жыл бұрын
yo are you spikefire? If so Yoshi gang
@iamspikefire
@iamspikefire 4 жыл бұрын
@@olbluelips I am!! Yoshi gang!!
@raymonde3545
@raymonde3545 3 жыл бұрын
Been practicing this and found it easier to input (jump) -> (delay) -> (A + jump)*still lets you IDJ for some reason* any accidental short-hop aerials rarely happen with this method hope this helps anyone!
@bobbill4257
@bobbill4257 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that this will finally give characters a way to punish DI out is probably my favorite thing about this. One thing I really hated about Ultimate is that for 99% of combos you just hold out but I’m hoping this changes things. I’m so pumped
@fps_spicy
@fps_spicy 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, better than gimr 😊😁
@TWOSTWOS
@TWOSTWOS 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@SnasenSmash
@SnasenSmash 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, that is subjective, but I’ll take it as a compliment. But hey, I don’t have a whole company to run though... just sayin 😬
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
@@SnasenSmash really good job tho, I wish people can do more stuff like you and gimr. would be nice if both work together
@SnasenSmash
@SnasenSmash 4 жыл бұрын
Magic 0 Thanks a lot! That is a cool thought and I would be interested for sure to do that, but he is probably a really busy guy
@SaturnSnapple
@SaturnSnapple 4 жыл бұрын
No one can top Gimr!!! Though this is truly game changing... consistent tippers AHHHHHH
@The_Animal_Man
@The_Animal_Man 3 жыл бұрын
Among all of the many consoles and games that I played in my life, smash Bros Ultimate is the game I've played the most and I feel like watching this video I still suck at it
@Keeby.
@Keeby. 4 жыл бұрын
this game gonna be fast af in a few years
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
the mixups and all crazy techs in this game makes it more fun to watch than melee
@Snowballsage
@Snowballsage 4 жыл бұрын
Magic 0 that statement is incorrect. It could be true in a couple of years, but as of right now, melee has way more advanced tech and mixups than ultimate.
@Magic0YT
@Magic0YT 4 жыл бұрын
@@Snowballsage is not incorrect cus is my opinion, if you dont like my pov you dont have to follow me lol. I played melee for more than 10 years and I never said ult has more advanced tech and mixups. read carefully
@Snowballsage
@Snowballsage 4 жыл бұрын
Magic 0 ok
@Keeby.
@Keeby. 4 жыл бұрын
@@Snowballsage you cant say a opinion is incorrect that just not how it work
@VidenzaGaming
@VidenzaGaming 4 жыл бұрын
My god. This new tech makes it look even for a little bit as if it was Turbo mode. The attacks connect so easily if done right. Gaddamn. 😮
@roboman
@roboman 4 жыл бұрын
The vid is smash bible
@Frost_1192
@Frost_1192 4 жыл бұрын
This video is insanely well done holy shit! Great explication, great music choice, great transitions. phenomenal video dude!!
@Kmart3535
@Kmart3535 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why, but something tells me he’s a Chrom main
@samstade5598
@samstade5598 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all of your hard work when putting this giant video together. It was extremely informative with incredibly talented editing.
@theodoreyd
@theodoreyd 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see whats possible with this and link's bomb, and also mii gunner's up air
@kennethvuong2063
@kennethvuong2063 4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t been interested in much of smash tech since smash 4, but this is so well done I enjoyed watching the whole video! Thanks for making it, sick combos btw
@janswhatsupdoc
@janswhatsupdoc 4 жыл бұрын
whos here after watching VoiD's vid? also that Rivals soundtrack tho POG
@Glace077
@Glace077 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had guides of this quality when I first started playing Melee. Awesome work.
@sauceman5337
@sauceman5337 4 жыл бұрын
So is it possible to do this by hitting the same jump button really fast twice or is that unrealistic?
@olbluelips
@olbluelips 4 жыл бұрын
When I used tap jump, one of my kill confirms was very easy due to tap jump IDJ. Now that I don't, this particular confirm is very very hard using only one jump button. Luckily I have a shoulder button on jump so now I can just lab it using two jump buttons. I would not recommend trying to use one button
@ChiodosBlowsDogs
@ChiodosBlowsDogs 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the video yet but, if he's just talking about instant double jumps yeah you can just double tap jump but, you gotta time it just right. Meta of Smash has a video on Falco's "Active Hop" combo and they go over IDJ's quite a bit because, it doesn't work without it so, if you need more help or info on it might give them an eyeball
@らいむ-d3s
@らいむ-d3s 4 жыл бұрын
Mewtwo users need to learn this btw, everyone knows that down tilt to fair is true, however by doing the IDJ it will allow mewtwo to do down tilt, IDJ uair, then fair, at certain percentage.
@SpaghettiJoBayBay
@SpaghettiJoBayBay 4 жыл бұрын
i'm having the most hardest time trying to get this to work. idk if i'm going too fast or too slow when pressing X+A>L or Y>A>L. maybe I just got binch fingers :'(
@nomanm.5884
@nomanm.5884 4 жыл бұрын
@Gachi Gachi yes but we normal ppl have tap jump turned off :/
@SpaghettiJoBayBay
@SpaghettiJoBayBay 4 жыл бұрын
@Gachi Gachi I kinda got the tech now kinda. I ended up reversing the inputs, Instead of starting jump with the L trigger I start jump with X into L+A. I still wanna try tap jump though to see how easier that could be.
@dombromflump627
@dombromflump627 4 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty convinced that this will give most characters a 0-40 or 0-60. Can’t wait to see what comes out
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