SNES on Switch - How does it stack up against other options? / MY LIFE IN GAMING

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My Life in Gaming

My Life in Gaming

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@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial 5 жыл бұрын
>mini episode >23 minutes God I love you guys, also the pixel perfect skinniness reminds me of playing snes on the Retron5
@FurEngel
@FurEngel 5 жыл бұрын
Sound delays are created because the original 16-bit consoles would write sound data to their buffers during frame draws (such as every other line or blanking interval). Where as emulation processes the frame(s) first, then processes the sound data. To completely eliminate the delay, you would need a very fast processor, or a parallel design (i.e. VHDL).
@ricardolima9411
@ricardolima9411 5 жыл бұрын
You know your stuff mate.
@blackhatfreak
@blackhatfreak 5 жыл бұрын
There's a sound delay?
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I see why this couldn't be done in a second thread in multicore systems...
@FurEngel
@FurEngel 5 жыл бұрын
@@nickwallette6201 The software emulator is probably already running multi-threaded. But it doesn't solve the timing issues. The sound hardware (S-SMP in this example) must also be emulated. So creating a virtual sound buffer will also create a delay, as when data is moved in, it must also be decoded in a less efficient way than what a real sound chip would do. For follow up, I recommend you watch the GameHut video when he describes his method of implementing sound: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmTQZH2oi66go7c and if you are a programmer, try and think of how you would emulate that in c/c++.
@filouk2
@filouk2 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackhatfreak Only with Bluetooth honestly.
@retropulse03
@retropulse03 5 жыл бұрын
I had played with emulators primarily for retro gaming since 2001... I didn't think input lag was a thing. Then I plugged in my Sega Genesis for the first time in like 15 years. Holy god, was it there. We just acclimate. It's like the sound discrepancies, I can't hear them even with comparisons a lot of the time. My ear isn't exactly trained though, I'm no audiophile.
@h0laPlaneta
@h0laPlaneta 5 жыл бұрын
Same happened to me. I sold my nes and snes in 1996 to get the n64, sold the n64 around 2000. Played with emulators till 2015 when a cousin gave me his NES that have been inside a box for the past 20 years so I could fix it. Fortunately I had a CRT Triniton still. Fixed and pugged the damned thing... a couple of hours later and like 5 people that were just passing by but stopped to play mario bros and duck hunt made me realize how much different the gameplay felt compared to ANYTHING else, emulators, clones, raspberry pi, hdtv screens, etc... It was just SO RIGHT and the games where fun and responsive again. It was not me that got older and slower, it was the tech! Input Lag is so real. Actually I played the games even better than when I was a kid. Outcome: I spent the next following year on getting all those retro consoles back on ebay and now treasure CRTs.
@keiyakins
@keiyakins 5 жыл бұрын
They do exist, but they're *way* overblown a lot of the time.
@gentarofourze
@gentarofourze 5 жыл бұрын
I remember thinking my skills at games got rusty which could be true to a extent but about 7 years ago I was at parents and forgot my laptop charger so played my old Sega, no matter if it was Sonic or Street Fighter suddenly I was better at it. Then a few weeks back I started using real hardware again and same results, I think though as both times I was using crts that helps too but I think input lag is there.
@h0laPlaneta
@h0laPlaneta 5 жыл бұрын
@@keiyakins Agree, but sometimes I think too that It´s that thing that it´s a commodity, a luxury and a privilege to have these days (huge and heavy crt plus old tech that is expensive to get, mod and maintain). So most people just prefer to think that there are better (cheaper, easier to use) options, and maybe there are for some other things (like the super nt or mega sg on an 720p hdtv with minimal lag or so). But in my opinion, for games, what matters the most is the gameplay, how it plays, and for that there´s nothing better overall than the real original hardware on a CRT. But again, that´s the deluxe, expensive and complicated version. We are fortunate to have the fpga and flashcarts with hdtvs today. It is crazy.
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 5 жыл бұрын
I just thought I was getting old and slow, since I know back in the late 80s and early 90s I was a hell of a lot better at the games than when I was trying stuff via emulation. So after like 25 years I finally broke out the old Sega Genesis/CD/32X tower of power last year, booted it up and was surprised it still worked fine - and wow, I didn't totally suck. Input lag is a very real thing, in particular for us who grew up playing them with no lag. For the boring kiddos to tell us input lag isn't a big deal, well that's just your classic millennial d-bag who thinks they know everything because they were always given a trophy no matter how stupid they were.
@gregberkhof2953
@gregberkhof2953 5 жыл бұрын
I like to close my eyes and enjoy the silky smooth delivery of Tom Hanks.
@eymed2023
@eymed2023 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@pinio5132
@pinio5132 2 жыл бұрын
@@eymed2023 he sounds like tom hanks
@RobbyHuang
@RobbyHuang 5 жыл бұрын
You know, I would absolutely listen to a podcast. I know you guys put the livestream archives as a podcast, but I would listen to something just like this every week.
@ValkyrieTiara
@ValkyrieTiara 5 жыл бұрын
NGL I might dig a podcast from these guys
@boriqua7453
@boriqua7453 5 жыл бұрын
Bring them to the Spawncast
@craigluft2373
@craigluft2373 5 жыл бұрын
if they made a podcast and were able to converse as clearly as this all the time, it would be one of the finest podcasts around. there's some big podcasts where it's actually kind of a mess, usually because there's too many people in the room talking over each other (YKWD, LoS even though I'm a fan of Dave Smith), or it's one guy just talking to himself (MMP even though I'm a fan of Bill Burr). or you have NPR-style sterility, either from actual NPR or people who want to seem like smarty pants. what's really underrated in podcasting is focus, structure, variety, and speaking clearly.
@R1SKbreaker
@R1SKbreaker 5 жыл бұрын
@@craigluft2373 I recommend checking out the video game podcasts, Cane and Rinse, as well as Retronauts.
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 5 жыл бұрын
Subscribe to Patreon, they do audio shows.
@EvilApple567
@EvilApple567 5 жыл бұрын
I would guess the KDL3 effect is just a product of how late that game released for the system; '97 along with DKC3. Always interesting to see features like that pop up in games near (or at, in this case) the end of a system's life span when the developers know every tick and can milk it for all it's worth. Also from what I've read aspect ratio (in terms of 4:3 and Pixel Perfect) is a bit of a case by case on the SNES in terms of how they were designed (although probably leaning more towards 4:3 overall). I remember looking up the optimal/preferable aspect ratio to play a Super Metroid x LttP randomizer on bsnes and found people saying that in Super Metroid the morph ball is only a perfect sphere like it should be in Pixel Perfect, but the Triforce in LttP is too skinny and only proper width in 4:3, which is strange if true because those games were obviously both developed by Nintendo, although a few years apart.
@PIKMINROCK1
@PIKMINROCK1 5 жыл бұрын
They were developed by separate divisions though which was like basically different companies back then. R&D4 made LTTP but R&D1 with some Intelligent Systems people made Super Metroid.
@tan_nerd07
@tan_nerd07 4 жыл бұрын
for a second i looked at KDL3 and my brain told me: Konkey Dong Land 3
@BakedKipling
@BakedKipling 4 жыл бұрын
Mind was blown when i first got my Switch and saw there was a SNES app, i think its great to dive into every now and then. It loos and plays amazing imo and has some of the best titles i played growing up, would really like to see a N64 app too! Great video
@chocolocojames213
@chocolocojames213 5 жыл бұрын
I just hope Nintendo consistently upload more games. Good games.
@90sarcadefighter5
@90sarcadefighter5 5 жыл бұрын
Then N64 quicker than SNES has taken!! - Useless!
@HylianMaster-ls2ps
@HylianMaster-ls2ps 5 жыл бұрын
Earthbound is what i really want, megaman x is also a priority
@billy-waynejeffcoat4828
@billy-waynejeffcoat4828 5 жыл бұрын
@@90sarcadefighter5 stop your whining, I couldnt care less if they added different libraries to the switch online. I'd rather they make a n64 mini instead.
@Flpstrike
@Flpstrike 5 жыл бұрын
If they bring Prince of Persia for SNES, I will shut up and play it
@CarloNassar
@CarloNassar 5 жыл бұрын
@@HylianMaster-ls2ps Yeah, MMX1-X3 would be nice. Either that or Capcom should fix the input lag.
@Eatitup86
@Eatitup86 5 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that the DPad is better on the SN30 Pro+. I have the GB style one and it is wonderful. :)
@blackhatfreak
@blackhatfreak 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly have no clue what you guys are talking about they all feel the same to me.
@TheElectricUnderground
@TheElectricUnderground 5 жыл бұрын
RetroArch run ahead mode is amazing, you can get console speed input lag
@infasis
@infasis 5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like it introduces all types of new problems though. Would be nice to have them analyze it for an episode.
@TheElectricUnderground
@TheElectricUnderground 5 жыл бұрын
@@infasis I 've used the feature since it came out, and have thoroughly playtested it. For some cores the feature it is not supported, but for the ones that do support it (most popular cores) the feature is extremely smooth and downright amazing. Most people who say it has problems are probably not setting it up correctly. This is the interenet though, so misinformation is spread when it s convenient for people who dislike emulators to try and downplay how powerful the feature is.
@h0laPlaneta
@h0laPlaneta 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheElectricUnderground Is this only for PC or is it available for something cheaper and smaller than you can connect to your tv and maybe use original controllers with usb adapters, like the Raspberry pi?
@infasis
@infasis 5 жыл бұрын
​@@TheElectricUnderground I'll have to try it myself sometime, but it really would be nice if they would make a video analyzing things like this though. Misinformation is rampant online for emulation related things and I'd like to see things really scrutinized.
@TheElectricUnderground
@TheElectricUnderground 5 жыл бұрын
@@h0laPlaneta Good news my dude. The raspberry pi 4 actually has enough power to run most cores (especially 16 bit ones) with enough power to use run ahead comfortably. If you are interested in shmups in particular, I'd say keep an eye out because I am going to release shmuparch for raspberrry pi 4 this weekend :-D
@joshmartimez2235
@joshmartimez2235 5 жыл бұрын
I played some of the SNES games on the Switch this past weekend and loved every second of it. Save states help and the rewind feature is great too.
@ericcartman7420
@ericcartman7420 3 жыл бұрын
Except for rewind, that (and much more) is possible on original hardware by using a device called "FXPAK Pro". And even then, if the games were not supposed to be played with Savestates, why using them in the first place? I'd dare to say tat playing games the way they were intended to be played is the point, when reminiscing over the past.
@mspeter97
@mspeter97 5 жыл бұрын
I love it when they put comparison of the sound delay and nobody can notice a single thing x)
@GunslingerXXX76
@GunslingerXXX76 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that input lag existed until I watched this video. I believe you, though. Maybe I've always adjusted to it "on the fly" for lack of a better phrase? Love your content! I'm having fun and learning new things. Thanks!
@MugenDad
@MugenDad 5 жыл бұрын
7:34 look at how perfect that screen protector is on, I wish I could get mine that perfect
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 5 жыл бұрын
[Try4ce] I screwed up my first attempt, protector wasn't really reusable. Got another and nailed it so hard I honestly couldn't believe it. It's one of those glass ones and I hope to never need to remove it.
@alienJIZ1990
@alienJIZ1990 5 жыл бұрын
The emulation is for sure improved. They fixed the background blinking SuperFX glitch in Super Mario World 2 that was present on the SNES Classic. Now when you play W1-7: Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy and hit Fuzzy, the background stays like it should.
@OtherScott64
@OtherScott64 5 жыл бұрын
First thing I checked when i downloaded the app wasthe transparency effect in Kirby 3. Was shocked to see it done like the NT.
@nintendo1889x
@nintendo1889x 5 жыл бұрын
Pseudo hi-res mode 7 is tricky to emulate, and uses unusual resolutions like 512 x 244, 512 x 256 or something like that
@MaxwelThuThu
@MaxwelThuThu 5 жыл бұрын
@@nintendo1889x pseudo high resolution can be used in various modes, but mode 7 isn't one of them. Mode 5 and 6 anables the real high resolution. This game uses the normal Mode 1, so it just streches the low resolution image. But you can select just the even or odd pixels to show, creating this KDL3 effect.
@nintendo1889x
@nintendo1889x 5 жыл бұрын
@@MaxwelThuThu It's still a weird effect
@joshbimthedoctor
@joshbimthedoctor 5 жыл бұрын
The thing I like about the rewind is you can redo jumps or whatever to get better. I like that in Mario you can rewind and redo a jump you messed up, it makes you a better Mario player. I know most people won't use it that way but I really like it. I would love if Mario rom hacks had a rewind haha.
@Lock2002ful
@Lock2002ful 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone analyzing this! Thanks!! :D I personally prefer pixel perfect mode. ^^
@diegog1853
@diegog1853 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what they did but i'm pretty sure the online functionality is build differently in the snes and the nes services. For one the low latency option is not even available, when i saw that i was very dissapointed since that was the only way i could play nes online somewhat decently. But when i tried it... i was very surprised by how smoothly it ran. I was able to lay super mario world and joe and mac with my brother in germany with no noticeable lag at all, not even in tricky platforming sections. I really hope that they upgrade the nes service to this new system.
@MartinPaoloni
@MartinPaoloni 5 жыл бұрын
16:20 THANK YOU! I thought I was crazy! It caught me off guard as I did not expect Nintendo to miss something like that.
@semperfi5788
@semperfi5788 4 жыл бұрын
Due to a mentioning of your channel in RetroGamer I came across your stuff by accident. And I have to say: the stuff you”re doing is simply awesome! 🤪 I almost watched everything in one session just like binge watching. Keep it that way. I learned so much and love it. 👍
@hitmangfx7162
@hitmangfx7162 5 жыл бұрын
My estimates (docked, wired controller, 14.2ms flatscreen) are 5-6 frames in 4:3, 2-3 frames in pixel perfect. In comparison, the Konami collections and Disney Afternoon collections, its 1-2 (I was able to effectively speedrun games in these collections). Take these measurements with a grain of salt, but my reference has always been CRT with original hardware. Once that input delay is on, it's like putting shackles on the game.
@JD3Gamer
@JD3Gamer 5 жыл бұрын
The biggest omission for me is Kirby Super Star. Like how are you gonna have Kirby’s Dreamland 3 but not Super Star?
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 5 жыл бұрын
[Try4ce] I feel like Super Star is a shoe-in for a future release, so it's nice to see Dream Land 3 up front (with its nifty blending feature too). But yeah Super Star is a way way way more fun game.
@bland9876
@bland9876 5 жыл бұрын
When ds games finaly come I'm sure it will be here
@MegaKirbySuperstar
@MegaKirbySuperstar 5 жыл бұрын
Same. I want to play Kirby Super Star online so bad!!
@tech6hutch
@tech6hutch 4 жыл бұрын
It's there
@sivant79
@sivant79 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice. You ask some excellent questions that I'm sure others have to have asked. It would be great to get an official response to these from Nintendo
@hitmangfx7162
@hitmangfx7162 5 жыл бұрын
The quality of the collections is so much better than these subscriptions. I found little to no input lag on the Castlevania and Contra collections. They cost money but the jump in quality is SOOO worth it.
@josephshin9297
@josephshin9297 5 жыл бұрын
Try the netplay in supported RetroArch cores. It's pretty close to perfect and blows the Switch NES/SNES online out of the water.
@alinepiroutek8932
@alinepiroutek8932 5 жыл бұрын
How is netplay on Switch? My framerate always get a mess while playing on this
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 5 жыл бұрын
Stop being a welfare slob and stealing stuff.
@Toadlapidus
@Toadlapidus 5 жыл бұрын
Rewind feature is really handy. I do not have time to play those games as I used to. So the fact that I can rewind is a god send. I feel like it ruins the experience in some way, as it was not meant to be played that way, but the fact that it helped me finish Super Metroid in about 6h was really gratifying knowing that I would never have found the time and the patience to go through the whole game if I didn't have the option to fix my mistakes with rewind.
@ThunderHorsePyro
@ThunderHorsePyro 4 жыл бұрын
I loved this non-scripted view on this. I hope you guys do more videos like this. Also, the longer episodes are fantastic too. Keep it up!!
@MellowGaming
@MellowGaming 5 жыл бұрын
I've been really impressed with it. Mostly cos it marks the end of Nintendo putting PAL versions of SNES games out in the UK. Even Super Metroid on Wii U still had the German subtitles on it. It's being able to play that how it is meant to be officially in the UK for the first time. Played some Super Mario Kart online the other day and while there was a little feeling of lag it was so minimal I adjusted to it pretty quickly. Playing that game's battle mode online is just amazing.
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin 5 жыл бұрын
OMG I LOVE these little Mini video's you guys are doing now! Because we get more in depth technical type info more often now! More coverage for more things is NEVER a bad thing when it comes from informed ppl! The more quality info laden content you guys produce the better, even if it is in a more laid back less scripted format. The info is still coming from two technically minded ppl and will still be accurate which is why I love watching you guys as I am a tech nerd and thus love the video's that look into the more minute techy details of things.
@bobabrowncoat
@bobabrowncoat 5 жыл бұрын
Shorter episodes are fine as long as you stay the way you are... meaning you pay Super™️ attention to detail. :D
@vidraul
@vidraul 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you guys did this video. I know the service looks identical but I really wanted to see your input on how good/faithful the emulation actually is
@jerricabenton842
@jerricabenton842 5 жыл бұрын
I actually love the NES lineup. it's pretty interesting. Also, for a slightly different lineup, you can log in with a different region and download the titles from that region.
@Microwave414
@Microwave414 4 жыл бұрын
Super metroid audio pop is emulation based and other then that and the border that's really the only issue I had with the emulation Nintendo created. It's pretty solid, no not higan or bsnes levels of accuracy but higan in accuracy mode has noticeable input lag so Nintendo's offering is a solid and balanced solution.
@sourcedrop7624
@sourcedrop7624 5 жыл бұрын
First mini was good, this one was notably better! Thanks for your videos
@lunitaproductions8290
@lunitaproductions8290 5 жыл бұрын
Now the SNES games with the CRT filter looks very blurry when there's no retention :0 That flickering made the games looking way sharper but at the same time defective.
@GameplayandTalk
@GameplayandTalk 5 жыл бұрын
It's great to see this service works fairly well. I was surprised the most at how well the online component functions.
@elsombero1747
@elsombero1747 3 жыл бұрын
I personally think that it's probably more worth it to just cfw the switch and use RetroArch for running SNES, NES, GBC, GBA and ps1 games. I'm just saying that those Switch servers won't be up forever and as soon as you just rip your physical cartridges to the MicroSD Card and as soon you modify your Switch, you'll have a lot of advantages in comparison to the OFW Switch users. Before anyone starts with the whole piracy BS.. In the long run you'll pay way more than the original release of the games was worth it and if you're an "Die Hard Diablo Fan", you'll be able to even run Diablo 1 port on the Switch and with the community hosted DNS Servers, you'll be enjoying the "local multiplayer" gameplay which isn't even local at all since you're connecting to an remote server, which let's you connect with other players. Same goes for older games. There're a lot of PC ported games like CS 1.6 (Currently only in Russian language), RTC Wolfenstein and somewhat working Half Life 1 port which is currently in Alpha but it works very well. Also, remember that with emulating the retro games, you actually OWN THEM! This means if Nintendo decides to remove some games from the library, you'll not be affected
@twoodall88
@twoodall88 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you gentlemen! Excellent video as always and a welcome follow up to the Genesis mini video. I appreciated everything that was brought up and that all topics were detailed/discussed. Can't wait for the next installment.
@garaschneider4808
@garaschneider4808 5 жыл бұрын
The blending of hi-res interlaced sprites on SNES has been available in SNES9X for like a decade. I guess Nintendo must've felt compelled to include it seeing as how clone consoles are implementing it.
@Milziade490ac
@Milziade490ac 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever try connecting a CRT to play these games on the switch; would be a pretty useful video
@Matt-gh2zm
@Matt-gh2zm 4 жыл бұрын
I actually sold my Super NT to move to original hardware because of the popping I was getting in multiple games. The sound would pop anytime I used Rambi's attack in DKC2. It was driving me nuts.
@ddave6419
@ddave6419 5 жыл бұрын
I think the audio delay you guys are talking about actually makes the audio hit at a realistically more accurate time even if it's not exactly true to the original. I can see how people would fall into different camps on that though.
@choco_easty
@choco_easty 5 жыл бұрын
I love these mini episodes!! Thanks guys! :) Also, Try4ce definitely needs a shave!
@boogiemanspud
@boogiemanspud 5 жыл бұрын
He can keep the beard as long as he saves some of the ladies for the rest of us!
@AvrilVentFleur
@AvrilVentFleur 5 жыл бұрын
The High Res blend used in Kirby is also supported by SNES9x at least with the Libretro core. Some other things in Kirby look too blurry with that though and Higan now has a high res mode. If you enable it all the time it creates really bad effects in some games.
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 5 жыл бұрын
[Try4ce] There is no downside to it the way it is implemented in the Super Nt to my knowledge. I believe it specifically only blends the layer with the high res mode and doesn't affect other games at all.
@amyo
@amyo 5 жыл бұрын
I love how y’all bounce off of each other’s ideas! :)
@punkydudester3
@punkydudester3 4 жыл бұрын
I love the rewind feature it's necessary For some of these extremely hard games. I just would not play them ever again With out it
@Rhoran
@Rhoran 5 жыл бұрын
YO! This mini episode feels a lot better than the first one you did. I don't know what you did different (if anything) but keep it up!
@teneesh3376
@teneesh3376 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with this service is that it's a subscription service. Once the service is gone, you can't play the games on the switch anymore. Also since you would always pay a fixed rate, nintendo has no reason to add more games. With virtual console games on the wii and wii u, they will earn more money if the add a game because they are selling it seperatly. It's also the reason why the added games at a much faster rate. So giving us the option to buy these games seperatly would fix both issues. Nintendo would have nore reason to release more games and we could still olay these games on the switch once the service is down Though we all know they are only doing this to justify the online service. Which isn't really a service as it is more like a hostage situation. I hate the fact the playing any game online needs you to buy into a subscription service and I blame microsoft
@EricHostile
@EricHostile 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great mini episode! I love the chill presentation.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
I love when people use logical fallacies like trying to pass off subjective opinions as objective facts. "There is no input lag" vs "I don't notice any input lag."
@cyrus2395
@cyrus2395 5 жыл бұрын
So, everybody, then?
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of people that don't try to pass off opinion as fact.
@cyrus2395
@cyrus2395 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench That's really impressive. I kinda envy you
@yeaitspootie
@yeaitspootie 5 жыл бұрын
Grew up with nes and snes in the 90s, I play switch on pixel perfect then I utilize the zoom of my Sharp 50inch and it looks fantastic and only cuts off a little bit of overscan
@yurodivy1
@yurodivy1 4 жыл бұрын
As for lag, my imperfect testing methods suggest about 2 frames overall. Not terrible, but enough to make me still prefer original hardware on a CRT.
@Azuris190
@Azuris190 5 жыл бұрын
i would like to have "Joycons" where the D-Pad is at the same High as the Buttons on the right Site.
@drobnoxius9483
@drobnoxius9483 3 жыл бұрын
Plus it coulnt drift
@teddym2808
@teddym2808 5 жыл бұрын
In my honest opinion, there is not one bad game in the SNES switch collection. They did very, very well for an initial release, and it's delightful playing these handheld. Ordered 2 SNES controllers from Nintendo so can't wait to get them too!
@mateusfelipecota
@mateusfelipecota 5 жыл бұрын
The transparency thing was made that way because you need to do alpha composition(en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_compositing) which is kinda a big formula and doing this with the SNES processor isn't fast, so it isn't worthy. Another thing is that on your computer this calculation is done by GPU but the GPU/VPU of SNES can't generate any RGB color that they want which makes possible that when you do an alpha composition on the SNES it's GPU can't render the color because it doesn't know which one it is and to make an VPU that could do that would be a lot expensive. And the last thing that made they do the pattern thing. They weren't expecting that people would want to emulate or mod their console to get the best picture.
@DragonQuarter
@DragonQuarter 5 жыл бұрын
One change I've noticed is in flashing/blinking animations in Breath of Fire. The enemy highlighting in battle has a much slower blinking animation and the sprite of the transparent Gloom enemy / Ross's wife's ghost in Auria also blink/flash less quickly which sorta results in them going invisible every now and then. I'm sure it was altered due to epilepsy concerns. Not sure if these alterations were in the Wii U/New 3DS versions, as well.
@buzzlombardi
@buzzlombardi 5 жыл бұрын
Great episode! I think you two should do this weekly! The my life in gaming talk show, where you discuss gaming stuff that's important to you. Maybe news about mods, or games you've been playing. 20 minutes is the perfect length. It can be like a Dev blog, but for the channel!
@kikayei
@kikayei 5 жыл бұрын
No Konami games means no Cybernator. Screw that.
@tmorelli1982
@tmorelli1982 5 жыл бұрын
Or Zombies ate My Neighbors 😔
@PIKMINROCK1
@PIKMINROCK1 5 жыл бұрын
Konami will probably put their games on it. They just won't put their big hits that they could fit into collections like Gradius, Contra or Castlevania
@worsel555
@worsel555 5 жыл бұрын
Another incorrect audio issue is with Super Mario World when you start the first level and throw the turtle shell at the line of Koopa's, the sound is different vs real hardware.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 5 жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed once I started playing SNES games on my Switch is that the volume of SNES games appears to be softer than other games.
@bland9876
@bland9876 5 жыл бұрын
I have to turn up my tv to 23-25 ish where as normal games and everything else is around 10 to 12 ish
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 5 жыл бұрын
@@bland9876 That's quite significant. I hardly play my Switch on the TV, but I found that I had the volume on my Switch set to full at one point.
@ByungSuk
@ByungSuk Жыл бұрын
All right, now it's time for you guys to talk about the N64 and GBA emulation on the Nintendo switch. Be thorough, maybe find a way to get soccer to test input lag and all will be cake. I look forward to this and so do many of us retro fans.
@Fulthrotle73
@Fulthrotle73 5 жыл бұрын
Love the content guys!
@shona-sof
@shona-sof 5 жыл бұрын
The interpolation of varying pixel ratios is _incredibly_ important to me. Nearest neighbor style filtering drives me nuts (NES Classic), and overly blurred filtering (Playstation Classic) gives me a headache as my eyes keep trying to focus on it. (also see awful background filtering in final Fantasy 7, 8, & 9 remasters)
@videogameobsession
@videogameobsession 5 жыл бұрын
Being a huge fan of the really classic NES (Black Boxes), I am happy to see 15 of the 30 games there. I'd also be fine with them adding the Zapper light gun games too, maybe with analog stick option / touch screen emulation. I'm guessing we won't see Slalom (being a Rare owned game), or Popeye (licensed by King Features), and possibly not Kung Fu or 10-Yard Fight (Irem games).
@blackhatfreak
@blackhatfreak 5 жыл бұрын
The sounds are good IMO, I've never noticed an issue with it till you guys pointed them out. I don't doubt there is input lag, but I haven't experienced it yet with the few games I've played sorry. Also, if you have the SN30 you can hit Start and Select to get the ZL+ZR function.
@ValthorEldr
@ValthorEldr 5 жыл бұрын
I, personally, am probably not going to use these classic libraries too much, since I've already hacked my classic editions with the library I wanted. But I will definitely try out the games I may have overlooked or games I've never heard of before. There's also the online multiplayer, so I could see a friend and myself putting some hours in Kirby's Dream Course. XD
@pflynn12
@pflynn12 5 жыл бұрын
I have noticed you don't have the option of picking a screen resolution that would fill your actual screen I do think that's a slight downside but when it comes to NES online and I notice that there is no option to customise your button setup and that was a pain especially with the SMB series
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 5 жыл бұрын
[Try4ce] Some SNES games use less of the screen, some use more. They just picked a good scale that would be safe for all games.
@pflynn12
@pflynn12 5 жыл бұрын
@@mylifeingaming Its 09:51 in this video but thanks all the same
@gustavolopez2599
@gustavolopez2599 5 жыл бұрын
Great to hear. Thank u guys for ur time and effort
@user-rd5wj2mm8n
@user-rd5wj2mm8n 5 жыл бұрын
This video dropping. Well. I dont mind saying I was VERY happy. Another excellent episode.
@ValkyrieTiara
@ValkyrieTiara 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, guys! You both seem a lot more relaxed and comfortable this time! Probably helps that Try actually had some experience with the topic rather than just "interviewing" Coury like the last one kinda was lol
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 5 жыл бұрын
[Try4ce] Thanks again for the feedback!
@BrainSlushTV
@BrainSlushTV 4 жыл бұрын
7 months later and they only added 2 games. I would like to see DKC2
@AH-hm2mq
@AH-hm2mq 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a light gun episode going over all the light guns up tot he guncon 3? Your Time Crisis was amazing
@jamesm6083
@jamesm6083 5 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the sub pop shirt! I love early nirvana and soundgarden
@shadowtheimpure
@shadowtheimpure 5 жыл бұрын
I won't use a rewind feature myself, but I do enjoy using fast forward. Especially when playing a grind-heavy RPG.
@PluckyD
@PluckyD 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Like Coury, I am wondering how the SNES controllers from Nintendo will stack up to the Sn30Pro+ from 8Bitdo. I have two and love using them on Switch or PC.
@bland9876
@bland9876 5 жыл бұрын
I would compare it to the 8bitdo modkit
@XenithLive
@XenithLive 5 жыл бұрын
We didn't get Tetris on NES online, I swear to god if we don't get *Tetris & Dr Mario* on snes
@bland9876
@bland9876 5 жыл бұрын
Just play tetris 99
@XenithLive
@XenithLive 5 жыл бұрын
@@bland9876 That's not real tetris unless you buy the dlc
@bland9876
@bland9876 5 жыл бұрын
@@XenithLive it is real tetris the tetris company gave nintendo the right to have this game made.
@XenithLive
@XenithLive 5 жыл бұрын
@@bland9876 *facepalm*
@blackhatfreak
@blackhatfreak 5 жыл бұрын
@@bland9876 He means single player bud
@TheBipolarx
@TheBipolarx Жыл бұрын
It 2023 and I still can't have black borders for the Nintendo Online games catalogue. It's why I refuse to use the service.
@KyleYoung2012
@KyleYoung2012 5 жыл бұрын
I love the Super Nintendo it's one of my favorite video game systems
@whatiskensworth
@whatiskensworth 5 жыл бұрын
I'm loving these mini "opinion share" episodes. Much love to the best duo on KZbin. And let that beard grow out, Try!
@CarloNassar
@CarloNassar 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be fine if they put Mega Man X1-X3. At least Nintendo offers suspend points and there would be proper pixel scaling in portable mode. Otherwise, Capcom should update their collection by fixing the input lag and other issues. October 17, 2019
@DeadEyeJ
@DeadEyeJ 5 жыл бұрын
MLiG Mini episode. Still 22 minutes long...... I love this channel.
@videogameobsession
@videogameobsession 5 жыл бұрын
I do wish they had a few more options, such as the ability to disable the rewind feature. It's just too tempting to use in a game like Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts. If it were enabled/disabled in the settings then it would be easier to avoid. Scanlines + sharp pixels would be nice for docked mode. I also hate the wallpaper on the sides as well. Just give us an option for black. Maybe when they add N64 games in a year or so we'll get more fixes. ;)
@kjsgamer17
@kjsgamer17 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know you could turn off that stupid ass overlay now. Thanks for letting me now. That made the games unplayable for me.
@bland9876
@bland9876 5 жыл бұрын
But then how will you know + = start and - = select?
@odinsplaygrounds
@odinsplaygrounds 5 жыл бұрын
According to Nintendo's release schedule: 2018 NES 2019 SNES 2020 GB 2021 GBC 2022 Virtual Boy 2023 N64 2024 GBA 2025 GC 2026 NDS 2027 Wii 2028 3DS 2029 Wii U
@james-f1802
@james-f1802 5 жыл бұрын
Marc's mannerism and voice is greatly more pleasant in this video,, please continue that.
@teneesh3376
@teneesh3376 5 жыл бұрын
I would still rather have the option to buy these games on the eshop. Emphasis on the word option. Australian internet is infamous for having shitty internet, so I don't play any games online. I just hate how these games are locked to Switch Online, if you want to play these games on switch. Have it so you could buy each game individually, or you can get switch online. Just give us a choice
@joseluis.colungag
@joseluis.colungag 5 жыл бұрын
Nintendo put the pixel perfect mode in these games. However Capcom didn't even bother to do it in the Mega Man X SNES Legacy Collection. I can't play the SNES X comfortably because of the ugly horizontally stretched aspect ration.
@agentorange8530
@agentorange8530 5 жыл бұрын
finally tried it on my tv and there's slight shimmering. It looks fine on the Switch itsel though.
@Kyubi888Naruto
@Kyubi888Naruto 5 жыл бұрын
Demon's Crest being there was a huge surprise to me. Was super happy. And I've been playing a lot of A Link to the Past. I just want them to add Super Punch Out, which I'm sure they will.
@bionyx6368
@bionyx6368 5 жыл бұрын
This is great! I personally don’t have a Switch, but my brother does, and it’s great! I cannot wait ‘till they release the N64 games! I’m curious to see with the N64 games if they will run at 240p upscaled. Probably not, but ya never know.
@darrentg6
@darrentg6 5 жыл бұрын
I really wished you guys had pointed out that the CRT Filter on the Switch is complete garbage compared to the one on SNES Classic. On Switch, there are sawtooth vertical lines and horrible rainbow banding. They just lazily imported the CRT Filter from the NES app on Switch. But NES always had sawtooth vertical lines and rainbow banding on the original hardware; while SNES did not. My original SNES even with a crappy composite cable doesn't have those image issues. SNES Classic has a MUCH cleaner image when using the CRT Filter. I really hope they update the app and fix this, I was really looking forward to the convenience of these games on Switch, but I really dislike how it looks as of now.
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 5 жыл бұрын
Analogue is also a Seattle area company, so it's entirely possible Christopher Taber helped Nintendo of North America with the SNES emulation.
@codo8584
@codo8584 5 жыл бұрын
@@rokej2 He said it's possible, why you gotta resort to petty insults?
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 5 жыл бұрын
@@rokej2 I'm sure you would talk to him like that in person. 😊
@nathanddrews
@nathanddrews 5 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! I've been waiting for this!
@dutchkel
@dutchkel 5 жыл бұрын
The Genesis Mini has no interpolation? Glad I have the Mega SG then
@blackhatfreak
@blackhatfreak 5 жыл бұрын
Not everyone can afford to shell out $200 smart ass.
@nightrider2002
@nightrider2002 5 жыл бұрын
Do you guy film in same studio or do you both shoot separately and edit together? Only found this channel the other day and love your videos, keep it up!
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 5 жыл бұрын
[Try4ce] We shoot separately. This video is a "Mini," which is a more casual conversation where we were talking on Discord while shooting with our own cameras. Most of our videos are scripted, though. But yes, we live in different states so usually we shoot separately and share our files for editing.
@Dhlamedia
@Dhlamedia 5 жыл бұрын
No confirmation that the Yoshi's Island graphic glitch from SNES Classic is fixed for the SNES on Switch app?
@Yodagamer1
@Yodagamer1 5 жыл бұрын
GameXplain had a video in it, no glitches on the snes online collection.
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 5 жыл бұрын
[Try4ce] Which glitch was it? I've played very little Yoshi's Island on the Classic.
@Yodagamer1
@Yodagamer1 5 жыл бұрын
@@mylifeingaming if you touched a fuzzy the background would flash or something like that
@Dhlamedia
@Dhlamedia 5 жыл бұрын
@@mylifeingaming John Linnenman, your penpal from Germany, mentioned this in his SNES Classic DF Retro review: when you touch a fuzzy, the background disappears. [Source] kzbin.info/www/bejne/pICyk5WXprSUi7M
@maegnificant
@maegnificant 5 жыл бұрын
It's gone
@dubphx
@dubphx 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are really the best, thanks for all you do.
@hacked2123
@hacked2123 5 жыл бұрын
Did that sn30+ pro have an ASAP Connect adapter plugged into it? I love those things
@rabiroden
@rabiroden 5 жыл бұрын
These services are primarily a benefit for Nintendo, so I wouldn't really expect many heavy hitters from big-name third parties. Games like Mega Man and Castlevania have more value to Capcom/Konami so they're unlikely to just give them away for "free". You'll probably see more obscurities from smaller rights holders who don't have major plans for their titles, who'd be more willing to accept whatever upfront price Nintendo offers, leading to more stuff like E.D.F. and Brawl Brothers. (Not that that's a bad thing either.)
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