Snowbikes Are Better Than Snowmobiles [BEST OF 2019]

[@JourdonGulick]

What a year it was! Anyone pumped for the snow season? Snowbike or Sled?

[@joelleblanc1512]

Love the videos. Especially the yz125 build not many people build yz125s

[@JourdonGulick]

Thanks 👍. I've been on the lookout for another one. Haven't come across any though.

[@ACAtuker]

Snowbikes! This year we go got two kx500s and a turbo yz450!

[@warrentorola1433]

@@JourdonGulick do you wear mx or snowmobile boots I’m starting this year and I’ve been trying to decide

[@JourdonGulick]

I wear snowmobile boots. I've seen a lot of guys wear mx boots, but not sure how they ride all day with them. Between getting wet and freezing I'd rather be riding back to the truck with the most dry and warm boots I could get.

[@snowsatyr]

Nice start, bad ending. Thanks for putting this up, getting me revved for the 2021 season.

[@JourdonGulick]

Thanks for watching. Have fun this season 🤘🤘

[@shortshorts9558]

This is awesome, great video! I'll be trying out my snow bike this year and hope to get some good footage

[@JourdonGulick]

Thanks. Have fun this season 🤘🤘

[@RogerDiotte]

WOW @ 1:33 What a freakin' view and the visual that you and your buds on these snow-bikes! Tingles!

[@JourdonGulick]

Yeah, awesome stuff 🤘🤘

[@RogerDiotte]

@@JourdonGulick No doubt, that's your home area to... I freak everytime I get out there!

[@KuyaBradford]

I would have to agree with the name of this video! Riding snow bikes is addicting!

[@adamsobolik52]

When you land a jump stay on the throttle because of the four strokes engine breaking you won't flip end over end as much

[@gnarly2086]

Is that because you snow bike and this works or just a guess cuz you have a dirt bike ?

[@adamsobolik52]

@@gnarly2086 I had a snow bike, and the first time I jumped it I died, then learned to land on the power so you don’t fly forward, and to keep the ski some what light

[@tribalbc]

Some pretty aggressive riding there 👍

[@JourdonGulick]

Only way to do it! 🤘

[@Halfdead211]

Looks hella fun man,I take it going over the bars in snow while still painful has to be better than on dirt

[@JourdonGulick]

Yeah, it's nice being able to crash in the snow.

[@nicolasnicolas3048]

Omg.. This is the paradise to me ..wish to be there ✌✌💯

[@randymarsh-Tegridy420]

Turbo Kit. 13-15lbs of boost. Anymore and a stock clutch will grenade. 16 KTM 450XCW. Mountain horse kit. Southern Idaho. The bike also rips in the dunes.

[@laykehicks8413]

Thanks.

[@spencerlamoreaux8745]

I ride Glamis sand dunes and it's hard on my 450. This looks like it's even harder on the poor bike. Have you experienced more mechanical failure/wear using these track kits? Seems like it's a lot to ask of a 450 engine.

[@patefutch6168]

Ugh all that fresh power

[@ippielb]

Looked like you got a nice little bonk on the noggin, the snowbikes look pretty fun in the trees, but i will have to stay on my sled. Going over the bars isnt very fun.

[@ippielb]

Jean-Frédéric Baillargé the handlebars.

[@taylordillon4397]

I see that you have had both Camso DTS129" and Timbersled Riot120".. Im looking at buying one of the 2, which did you prefer, pros/cons, and why? It will be on a CRF450. Mostly Lake/BackCountry Riding (Possibly some mountain in the future)

[@JourdonGulick]

The Camso is heavier, larger, less nimble, but the track is excellent. You can climb a lot of stuff easily. The kit is also very durable. The suspension is okay, but you will notice the lack of suspension if you are jumping at all. Also a big bonus is the price. You can usually find a Camso for half the price. I never had to deal with warranty or customer service so I'm not sure on that end. The Riot is way more playful and has more of that dirtbike feel. The suspension on the LE is super smooth and you are able to adjust it on the fly. The track is shorter and you might struggle more in the heavy snow. It is amazing in Spring snow conditions. And I haven't had to deal with warranty/customer service for Timbersled yet either. Most kits are really close in performance and quality. Just lots of little things that each kit does better than the other. If you have the money then get the best of the best, but if not just get what you can afford and go from there.

[@Trad-Am]

The bottomless days I love, the bikes just don't do well in though. They are easier to hold a line on steep sidehills in technical terrain, but I like to dangle, and been riding in the cascade mountains for 40yrs,(I'm only 44 just got started early) so my axys RMK isn't going anywhere. They are fun though, and maybe my fe501 will get a yeti someday.

[@JourdonGulick]

Yeah, maybe in the future I'll be picking up a sled.

[@bobwerner1033]

That easily has to be the funnest thing EVAAAAAA

[@JourdonGulick]

For sure 🤘🤘

[@bobwerner1033]

@@JourdonGulick I just bought a 2021 kawasaki kx 250x hmmmmmm

[@bobwerner1033]

Around $5000 to set them up i believe

[@octaneaddiction1405]

I've always wondered do you still run air filters on these snow bikes or not

[@JourdonGulick]

You can. But you need to seal up your airbox as snow will get in there and ice will also build up. The other option is to run a Pod filter, which is what I do. Then you don't have to worry about anything.

[@zensumu8525]

this looks like so much fun

[@Dieutoutpuissant]

I have a wonderful moment watching that video!!!

[@JourdonGulick]

Great to hear Francois!!

[@hisnamethefrank]

Finally @4:32 you open them things up!!!

[@corporalmcmuffin7562]

I need to rent myself one of these if I go on vacation

[@JourdonGulick]

Definitely worth it!

[@heartsky]

The trees conspired with the rocks for payback. Next time running over a sapling remember the nose.

[@JourdonGulick]

They definitely try to attack you

[@backtoobasics]

man have your prayers been answered, revelstoke has been hammered, the winters are so unpredictable here in onterrible building another bike is only a dream, the twins we had were epic no budget builds and sat for 90% of there existance. hopefully with the new kits they will become more reasonable to build up and not turninto 30 000 dollar bikes that are death machines when converted back to wheels.stay safe this year and keep your head on a swivel on those things in the moutains this season... meerry christmas guys

[@JourdonGulick]

Barely any snow in Montana. I'm about to move to Revelstoke for the winter though haha. Yeah, things can get out of hand quickly when you just keep modding.

[@mikehemens9359]

How long do the 450s last doing that?

[@frankenstein3163]

Great video. What's your thoughts on a revers trike with the snow bike mod ? Would it work beater on trails ? I'm trying to shop for a toy for my micro camping kit. It's like van life. Les is more.

[@bobbiebigg3]

Nice Lipstand (nose stand) Jourdon those buried hazards have damn near killed me, but hey your a tuff young bugger, I'm 63 and don't bend and heal like you young whipper snappers, glad your ok.

[@TheChrisboger]

Seams slow as hell. How fast are they going?

[@samsgarage1716]

I agree snow bikes look way faster and more fun to ride.great video

[@JourdonGulick]

🤙🤘 Thanks

[@Zerobudget2000]

I'm not disagreeing that snow bikes look super awesome but alot of snowmobiles make literally 3 times as much power as a 450 and are alot faster.

[@scottchisholm5603]

Wow, cannon air!

[@Pflap64]

This is WOW

[@JourdonGulick]

🤘🤘

[@alejoYVR]

Well... one more thing I need in my life. Sounds like the bikes fall a bit short in power though? All 450's right?

[@JourdonGulick]

I know right. They work REALLY hard in the deep powder, but you can get into places snowmobiles can only dream of. If you get some snow with a really solid base they work way easier as well.

[@shawnrennick2229]

@@JourdonGulick Have you ridden a modern 850 cc sled? 2 days ago, Golden BC, 50 cms of fresh, on 100 cms of blower pow, sleds are ripping, bikes are parked "in the trees" without enough hp to spin the pow anywhere with a decent angle. Its just engineering and physics. Modern sleds are amazing. Bikes will work in certain conditions, but not all the time.

[@stacksmasher]

Where is this? I don't think I have ever seen that much snow before!

[@JourdonGulick]

Western Montana. We got lots of snow this year!

[@brwnidgrl73]

It’s snowin* already dang its still like 90

[@vvlvvl9852]

How do you install gas can on ARO without rack? Can't look at this huge piece of metal (rack)... Could you make picture of that? Tanks!

[@JourdonGulick]

Basically use a snowboard binding strap and you can bolt it to each side of the rack.

[@vvlvvl9852]

@@JourdonGulick Isn't canister wider, than tonnel? I could not put it between side ARO panels...

[@ryei6]

This is so awesome, what’s the average speed they are hitting?

[@mixermanbear.4002]

2:09 must be a hoot when things really go wrong.

[@rjallenbach1]

This looks like so much fun! How much goes into converting the bike for snow? And is it easy going back to wheels?

[@JourdonGulick]

If you know your way around a bike it's super easy. I've seen plenty of beginners put these kits together no problem as well.

[@boser1212]

A third the horse and half the traction. Nothing is better about a bike.

[@JourdonGulick]

Not a single thing!?

[@boser1212]

Cripple kid 090 fact big boys ride sleds

[@wyattdidrickson3253]

what kind or bike do you recomend for a timbersled?

[@JourdonGulick]

Honda, Yamaha, KTM would be my top 3.

[@wyattdidrickson3253]

@@JourdonGulick Cool thanks

[@richscott2952]

How are they in 3 inches of snow

[@JourdonGulick]

A lot can hide under 3 inches of snow. They are pretty much rideable in all snow conditions. Heck I've seen people ride them at the sand dunes.

[@husqvaberg5501]

Where is this amazing place?

[@JourdonGulick]

Western Montana

[@VernonSnowMX]

Killer video guys! Where are you based out of?

[@JourdonGulick]

Western Montana

[@jonathanparmalee8020]

Chest mount?!

[@JourdonGulick]

This is actually the Dango Designs helmet chin mount.

[@alexgerhardt8592]

Do they go any faster

[@JourdonGulick]

This is mostly suuuper deep fresh snow and steep. They work pretty hard in that stuff.

[@barnyardbrio7597]

so cool.

[@samsilook2790]

What are those called and how much are they?

[@JourdonGulick]

Snowbikes. Probably $10k.

[@idahopotato5837]

You sold me. I'll keep my nose.

[@JourdonGulick]

🤣

[@mausermongerkoziczkowski8104]

looks like fin but I'll never haul out a Moose on one. lol

[@JourdonGulick]

Ha! Definitely won't hold a moose!

[@musschootski]

Did you hit a stump at the end?

[@JourdonGulick]

Yep. Came outta nowhere. The bike flipped and the track came down and smashed me in the face.

[@JSRMedia]

That is so cool

[@brwnidgrl73]

Dang that’s cool and I agree

[@JourdonGulick]

🤘🤘

[@brwnidgrl73]

Bro ima start doin dirt bike vids

[@brwnidgrl73]

Jourdon Gulick would u watch them

[@banzaiib]

they look way underpowered for what they're doing... looks fun, but also looks like a crapload of work

[@davidhallquist7220]

There in different categories Snow bikes have one ski up front. Snowmobiles have two skis ! ive spent time on both and they both have there good and bad things But what stood out the most is yes you can go just about anywhere on a snowbike but there's no comparison to a snowmobile when it comes down to the thrill of hauling ass Sleds bark and snowbikes fart .!!

[@JourdonGulick]

Yeah. I'd love to have both.

[@laykehicks8413]

After watching - did anybody get above 30kmh? These don't seem fast, even turbo'd. Obviously they're lighter but how much can they really put out for speed? Are you not stuck in 3rd all the time? Do they climb better? Fuel mileage? You've got a tiny fuel tank on a 450. Not big enough (I think, not sure) of a track to keep the bike not-stuck even though the track is ... huge looking. Are they way easier to get through tree's (especially side hilling) ? Ever considered running two ski's up front real close to each other? Would give a lot of lift on the front end, maybe you'd be able to do drop-downs easier where the front doesn't sink into the snow so hard you fall off lol. edit: the way they lean/carve through tree's effortlessly is too cool. another question, are these less tiring than snowmobiles? Less weight, more lean ability, they ought to be.

[@JourdonGulick]

They have plenty of limitations, but they also do things better. An 850cc sled vs. a 450cc bike... I think you know which one is going to have more power. It's easier for a beginner to hop on and ride aggressive terrain and it's definitely less tiring to ride. The title is just to piss all the sledders off 🤣🤣

[@NickandStuff]

For a tiny bike compared to a sled in that deep of snow looks like he's going a pretty decent speed to me. And could go a lot faster with less snow. You have a lot of room to store extra fuel as well.

[@jonathancolton8013]

I’m 150lbs and 5’4.” A sled is so much more work due to lack of weight to shift. Sleds just move more weight and if your lean and fit the snow bike is the only way to go! I have a KX450 and that’s more than enough power. If you going for speed, just stick to tires and riding dirt! If you want to discuss speed, buy a street bike. Snow is not the place to find speed but instead a place to explore uncertainty and adventure!

[@JourdonGulick]

Well said man 🤘🤘

[@Merko2]

After that ending i guess snowmobiles are best after all ;P

[@JourdonGulick]

Maybe haha

[@co8544]

Goddam i love snowbiking. So glad i traded my sled for a snow bike.

[@JourdonGulick]

Nice 🤘🤘🤘

[@natemoen681]

How do you not run out of gas

[@JourdonGulick]

Larger gas tanks and also carrying extra gas mounted on the tunnel of the snowbike kit.

[@ДмитрийКарякин-о4ю]

Ваще шекардос я сто раз так делал один раз даже модуль завернул!

[@justindwyer3832]

Timbersled..... useless... Watched this.....I want one

[@keva6856]

Who do you stop with these bikes when they have no brakes

[@JourdonGulick]

When you change the kit from dirt to snow you remove the front and rear brake. Then most kits come with a pre bled handbrake that works well for stopping in most conditions.

[@frank-696]

PEOPLE.... think.... this is sooooooo underpowered. Whats a FAST sled/snowmobile..... do the math!

[@thomasbarlow4223]

Needs a turbo

[@JourdonGulick]

Exactly

[@woods3497]

If you say that you’ve never felt the power of a 1000cc two stroke plowing throw snow at 60mph Snowmobiles are better ur bike was bogging the whole time

[@huuge3484]

Ass over banbox.....Y I K E S.....

[@ayagnich]

what is your bike?

[@JourdonGulick]

'14 Honda Crf450r

[@richscott2952]

Crash no biggie ,just make a point to wear your helmet 1000% of the time, no quick test rides without it

[@JourdonGulick]

Oh for sure. I had my helmet on during this crash, it just hit me right in the goggle opening. Bad luck.

[@darkwarrior2363]

Is this hurt 😂?

[@zanzibarbungalow3386]

Anyone Remember Sno Hawks?

[@AliveAboveft]

Here is another good timbersled video to check out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6DUd5yaab57e7c

[@slickcraft241]

Slow underpowered little snow balls.

[@verovex7723]

not enough horsepower for me

[@JourdonGulick]

Definitely lacking in the HP department...

[@tompali2025]

everytime you land you fly right over the handlebars like an missile... yea WAY better than snowmobiles lol

[@swedish_sadhguru3854]

Oh man, if I didnt lose 100k USD on gambling with cryptocurrencies I would immediately buy a 450 snowbike with turbo. Oh well, maybe in 2022.....that looks like paradise.

[@JourdonGulick]

Haha, are you being for real?

[@swedish_sadhguru3854]

@@JourdonGulick Unfortunately yes :( But I learnt a lesson, better to "waste" money on toys instead of trying to invest money.

[@rykercarlson2713]

It’s better huh? I’ll take 140 hp over 50 any day

[@johnwinnerdz1]

Shikibobs lol

[@johnwinnerdz1]

Those snow bikes look lame lol

[@JourdonGulick]

Ever tried one?

[@andi4281]

So you killed a lot of animals by disturbing their winter rest 👎👎👎

[@JourdonGulick]

Yes. Thousands of animals were murdered during the filming of this video. Sorry, I forgot to put the disclaimer at the beginning of the video.

[@davidhallquist7220]

Snowbikes need to ride with other snowbikes Cuz When mixed with sleds it sucks for both sides !! Just got back from a sled trip and we had a snowbike rider in are group that was just as good if not better then you guys on this video anyway the snow was fresh and very deep and throughout the day we would get a laugh just watching the snowbike get up to where we were at he had to zig zag back and fourth slowly and eventually made up but a snowbike can go into places where sleds can't period And once again it's because there not in the same category except that there both snow machines that's it, one has 1 ski up front and the other has 2 skis . snowbikes are very slow yet very nimble and light ish Sleds have way more power and haul ass and SOUND WAY BETTER while doing so !!!! The snow biker himself even said that he should of brought his sled cuz it's hard to keep up with sleds especially on untouched deep snow log roads And he had over 25k into his snowbike . So a snowmobiler with a group of snowbikes will not have that good of a time especially when heavily treed

[@gnarly2086]

Snow bikes suck compared to sleds lol sold my timbersled kit and got a brand new Polaris axys 155, far superior at everything besides squeezing in a 30 inch pocket 👌🏼😂 love the video but the titles shiesty

[@JourdonGulick]

Very sheisty 😂

[@brandenburg2286]

You wish

[@JourdonGulick]

🤣🤣

[@nicholascarver1]

Sled.

[@jeremyhill2243]

Not even close to snowmobile performance....

[@JourdonGulick]

I know... Snowmobiles have waaaaay less power.

[@jeremyhill2243]

Jourdon Gulick ok that’s funny! 😂

[@emiltupitsa4966]

clown

[@JourdonGulick]

Thanks for watching Emil 👋