Unboxing Gong Hipe Cruzader - Trying Flat Water Paddle Up

[@0leandr1]

Question about the roller bag - are you able to compress it with straps to wear it on the back on the water?

[@FoilingPastor]

@@0leandr1 I think so yes. I have always the front strap on and I think I can still put it in the bag with the back strap as well.

[@mistersuperstoked]

Good idea, to always put the GONG bag under the foil box, so the carbon doesn't scratch when inflating the board to 20psi. Glad to see that you are now also starting on the downwind journey! :)

[@FoilingPastor]

Yes, but I guess it will take me a while to flat water paddle up

[@OlofStraatman-j3k]

What mast and foils are you using . Strange that the air is coming out , when you remove the connector . I only have inflatable boards of gong . And this only happens to me when I have the wrong connector or I forget to put the nippel up. There is one guy on the internet . Forgot his name but he does paddle up and wing up with the inflatable . Mine paddle up journey is about to start also . I have a Cruz 7,11 , curve 4 xl and a sirus stab 63 cm . I now do wing ups and flying at 6 to 10 knots . Maybe less at an small inland lake

[@FoilingPastor]

I was also surprised with the air coming out. Maybe they changed the pump a bit. Because I didn`t struggle with that with the normal Gong Inflatable Board for Wingfoiling. I know mrsuperstocked. He used to do dw foiling with a Gong Hipe Cruzader on small bavarian lake, if you mean him. I am using the Sirus XXL 156cm with the Sirus XXL 56cm and the HM 72 Mast. I guess the Sirus 4XL would be a bit easier for a flatwater paddle up, but I don`t want to buy another frontwing :D

[@FoilingPastor]

I still need to try winging with the Hipe Cruzader, but this spring had quite crazy much rain and almost no thermal wind days...

[@lofje]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIXZlJZ8l7l6npIfeature=shared Cerylle lejeine

[@IRWE905]

I have the 2023 HIPE Cruzader 7'6" (70 kg). I use it for Winging and working on Paddle Up's and DWSUPF. The Box Handle is a nice new feature in the 2024. I am trying to perfect a paddle technique where I use more of my Core rather then Shoulders and Arms (same philosophy for Freestyle swimming). Once I perfect it I will share it with you. Looking forward to watching your progress.

[@FoilingPastor]

Thank you for your comment. I am really happy to have that Box Handle and I am interested in seeing your core technique. At least in the beginning, my shoulder is quite burning :D

[@mikemiller774]

Why would you get a board with volume almost twice of your weight? Is this really important in paddle? I only wing, and can't really understand why people are going with such extra volume with this board. Only explanation i see is as on Gong's page as a guide: the bigger board - the easier to use. Like with your 70kg you would be fine winging on 6'0 95L

[@FoilingPastor]

@@mikemiller774 It`s quite different from wingfoiling. In wingfoiling I would also take a smaller board, but for downwind foiling and flatwater paddle up, Gong advised to take the 7"11. You need lenght in your board to paddle a certain speed, that`s why race sups are always very long and quite thin. So it`s not so much about the volume, more about board length...

[@scottsmith9140]

The way buoyancy works is you will displace a volume of water equal to the weight of you and your gear. If that volume is long and skinny it will go faster through the water (think olympic rowing boat). If it is shorter and wider it will sit lower in the water and make more drag (think of how hard it is to pull a tube behind a power boat)

[@basvv]

It took me a couple of weeks on the cruzader 7.6 with the same front foil but with the 85cm mast but it can be done!

[@FoilingPastor]

nice, that gives me some hope that it will be possible for me one day...

[@Schisshaas]

jetzt hast du auch einen ... Super ... viel spass damit ...

[@FoilingPastor]

ja, genau. Wobei mich schon interessieren würde, wie viel Unterschied die 0"6 Fuss machen

[@Schisshaas]

Das bekommen wir auf jeden Fall mal hin ....

[@supertramp2883]

bzw. würde mich neben der Wahl des richtigen Flügels auch interessieren, welches board volumen du für pump foilen empfehlen würdest

[@FoilingPastor]

Hängt noch davon ab, ob du es zum DW oder zum Wingen nutzt. Beim DW sagt man als Anfänger, dein Gewicht plus 30-40 in Litern. Mit dem 7“6 oder 7“11 wäre es sicherlich leichter für mich

[@Mr.kitefoiler]

Nice board

[@FoilingPastor]

thank you

[@supertramp2883]

Hallo, generelle Frage: welchen Frontflügel von Gong würdest du für Pump einsteiger empfehlen?

[@FoilingPastor]

Schwierig zu sagen, da ich damals mit dem X-Over angefangen habe, zum curve, zum Fluid und dann zum Sirus gekommen bin. Ich würde es wahrscheinlich direkt mit dem Sirus probieren. Einfacher ist es aber wahrscheinlich mit einem X-over oder curve anzufangen.

[@watercrazylion]

Another jealous making adventure :-) Regarding the position of your mast. In my opinion it does not make a difference in lift if you put it fore or aft. Lift is a combination of speed and angle of attack. It does matter where you would like to keep your feet. Floating straight or maybe a bit more to the aft to avoid nosediving? Then when you get up on the foil you can feel which leg hurts the most after a while. If it is your back foot then you can move your mast more to the front. And the other way around. Good luck with your progress. I know you will succeed. And I think you have the right board size for your weight. You can balance it already quite well.

[@FoilingPastor]

thank you for your comment and for your encouragement. I am not sure, if the mast position already makes a difference in paddling, because it shifts the weight of the board and the downward force either more to the front or to the back. But I should test it out to see the difference!

[@ChristopheRobertNicoud]

Same Cruzader 7’0 try one time with Sirus xxxl ( 186cm) and mast HM79 without succes ( of course afrer one time 😂) but challenging and good training waiting wind !

[@FoilingPastor]

I would love to have the 3XL like you for flat water paddle ups, but I don’t want to buy another Frontwing just for that

[@stkl23]

Viel Spaß beim Erlernen des flat water paddle up! Ich weiß noch, als ich mein Downwind-Board das erste mal paddelte letztes Jahr. Ich dachte: "Wie zur Hölle soll das jemals auf's Foil kommen?!" Aber es geht - mit regelmäßigem Üben und der richtigen Technik. Das 7.0er ist natürlich SEHR sportlich gewählt.

[@FoilingPastor]

dankeschön, ja ich hätte viel lieber das 7"6 oder das 7"11 gewählt. Aber das kommt davon, wenn man zu lange wartet 😂

[@AdamsHadEnough]

Watching as I haven't been successful on this setup yet, but I am heavy and old.

[@FoilingPastor]

But it`s awesome that you are still trying or that you tried at least. We will see, if I will be successful.

[@maksymskoryk3784]

I have the same foil setup for pumping. Recently I ordered Hipe Cruzader 7.0 for the same goals (light wind winging and intro to flat water foiling) but I'm 85 kg. So it would be interesting to compare how this setup will suit us both since the difference in weight is quite noticeable to say the least

[@FoilingPastor]

Yes, that would be quite interesting. I hope it will work out for your as well. But while starting to pump with my legs when I paddle really hard, I have to be careful, not to dive my nose into the water. So I guess that might be a bit more challenging for you. I guess that`s why they made the first Cruzader with so much volume in the nose that it almost looked bulky.

[@maksymskoryk3784]

@@FoilingPastor I noticed that you put the foil all the way forward in the foil tracks. Could this be a reason for nosediving? Have you tried moving it back a few cms?

[@FoilingPastor]

@@maksymskoryk3784 that`s a good observation. I thought that to put it very wide forward would give me more lift. I didn`t think it would affect the nose, but maybe you are right

[@kizzmiazzz]

Just pure random observation without having a clue on doing it myself: you paddle too far behind and your frequency is too low. use your hips more than your arms, paddle as much in front as possible. good luck :)

[@FoilingPastor]

i guess you are not too far off, some others commented this as well. So thank you for your comment!