2020 Polaris Indy XCR 850 vs 2020 Ski Doo MXZ XRS 850 - All The Details!

[@Mainecat21]

Great job explaining the feel of the front ends, handling, suspension and acceleration. Considering most of us never get to demo one, it's a huge help in the buying decision process.

[@snowtrax]

Thanks for watching Scott, I'm glad I can be of some help. Thats what we are here for, and it's nice to hear the comments like yours. Have a great winter ~ AJ

[@sharpton2367]

Why doesn’t skidoo offer LED headlights yet? For that money they should come standard like Polaris.

[@tlh001]

Agee with Josh here. I added the body mounted LED kit that is wired into the high beams (‘19 Renegade XRS). This makes a world of difference and really reaches out at higher speed. I don’t need bright low beams, but it is great having lots of light doing 60mph at night on the grade!

[@adampetten1009]

I wish they did also and was very surprised the gen4 didn't. I've added my own LED and have very good light out put. I could always add the axillary light which is slick and no other manufacturer offers.

[@bedlambikes]

LED headlights, a windshield, a storage bag, enclosed toe holds, and much better gauges. Oh, and ANYTHING but just yellow and black year after year....

[@PartTimeYooper]

Because they know their buyers are dumb enough and willing to drop the extra $500 to upgrade something that should be standard on $16k toy. Like windshields, hand guards, etc...

[@dirttraxtv]

Good call Josh, I didn't think about that during this. The Polaris headlight is pretty incredible from the factory. Thanks for the comment and watching!

[@ahill7866]

I have never had an issue with the ski doo front end and turning, in fact I personally think it turns easy. On this video I disagree with JUST about every negative points you made about ski doo, other than maybe the GPS and the storage. The Gen4 chassis is absolutly the funnest sled I have ever ridden.

[@bonopainnogain7369]

I have an 18 XCR rush 800 and just bought an XRS renegade 850 ....... up here in NY we just got a huge storm and I spent a lot of time hopping from sled to sled on my local trails. Absolutely unbelievable rear suspension on the XRS... motor is obviously much stronger than the 800. The Skidoo makes the Polaris feel like a relic sitting side by side but the ultimate persuasion come s from the confidence that the XCR gives. Absolutely no comparison. Regardless of suspension setup.... the difference is huge. I love the SkiDoo .. its a work of art but thats now my wifes new sled.

[@robertg.9964]

To answer your question, which sled, as is, out of the box do I prefer. I have owned nothing but Ski-doo, because they have what I was looking for built into the model years I currently own (3 sleds). That said, I would take the Polaris XCR over the XRS for several of the reason you had pointed out and some other reasons you did not point out. My list why Polaris: 1. Storage - I carry a small tool kit, mitts, thin gloves, oil, water, snacks, flash light. 2. Handle bar - I am 6'4" with my boots and I need a bar that can handle my height from both seating position and standing "without" trying to adjust on the fly. Trails always go from super smooth to bumpy kidney bruisers in a second. 3. Windscreen - riding at dark or day in 10 degrees and colder need I say more? 4. LED Headlights - I have them on my pick-up, my garden tractor, my boat & boat search light. When is the last time you changed a LED light bulb multiple times? 5. Steering- after 7-9 hours of riding, which I do periodically every season the heavy steering wears me out. 6. Ergonomics for seating position, it's more natural and I can move my legs and feet around better. 7. Ride comfort, though the Polaris is a pinch softer...is it after 7-9 hrs? That's called comfort. I am not a rider who stands for hours on end, the seat is there for a reason. 8. The dash & having the built in GPS. I have purchased the Garmin and added the micro SD drive with the built in trail maps for under $200. Ever price Ski-doo's Garmin and holder package....brace yourself for major sticker shock. Type of rider I am: Off trail 50% riding on trail pretty fast as conditions allow it. Age - 55 (ugh) height 6'3" no shoes. weight with gear 325-330 lbs. Riding area Pittsburg, NH - Rangeley-Jackman, ME Sleds own: 2014 Sk-doo Renegade Adrenaline 600eTec, 2012 Ski-doo GSX 800 eTec with 137 track length, 2001 Ski-doo MXZ 800 w/DPM stretched to 137", 1994 Polaris 500 DLX (restored to original 2017), 1987 Yamaha Phazer (Father/ Son project to stretch track length, upgrade suspension w/LED headlights) We are a family of 5 and we all ride together as much as possible. But, I do have that group of 8 guys who like to rip it up a few times a year getting stuck in the woods for hours. So I think that answers your question CJ plus a look at what type of riders follow your channel, thanks for an excellent review!!

[@joesainato8051]

Excellent video. I like that sticker package on the Polaris. Both sleds scream fine quality craftsmanship. They both perform at the highest level. People complain about the cost especially compared to 20 years ago and yes it is a large sum of money to spend on a toy. With that said the advancement in technology and the ability to enjoy the sport so much more is amazing. Everything has gone up in 20 years. I understand that not everyone can afford a sled like these two but even your base Polaris skidoo’s, cats or Yamahas are worth their weight in gold. These two just happen to be at the top of the two stroke spectrum. Keep up the great work

[@jordanlittle5391]

I agree to that in a way if your 1996 800 storm was 8000 back in the day with lesser sleds being alot less when you account for the 1-2% inflation over 20 years 12000 is right in line that being said I cant justify spending the other 5000 that they have seemed to increased on the higher models

[@jeremyclarke2108]

I would like to see polaris and ski doo riding side by side and see how both sleds react to the same situations. Yeah I've seen videos of them riding separately but never together. I think a video of them side by side doing random things like hitting bumps going threw fresh powder or just take off and hold them wide open on different snow conditions. Just an idea love the videos you and your father and brother make. I hope to be able to meet and maybe even ride with you guys.

[@RyanPotratz]

Great Review. I just got a Polaris XCR and am loving it. I ride with a lot of Ski Doo people too - and love there products as well. One thing not covered in your review that myself and my ski doo buddies agree on is the omission of a pull start by ski doo. You can add it if you want but at this price point it should be standard. We had two sleds both have electrical issues with there doos. While these things happen to any brand, Ski doo trying to improve profits by $160 dollars and omitt a pull start is just plain stupid. Even if my battery goes dead I can still start my sled. If my friends case its was a failed starter and a failed cellinoid on the other. They both got out a rope and after 20 minutes got them started - dangerously - by wrapping the rope around the clutch and pulling the cord. Then they have to put the safety shield back on while the sled is running. Why do this in a sled at this price point and level. For that reason alone I will stick with Polaris until Ski Doo wises up and makes the pull start standard equipment on every sled.

[@dougmaloney872]

I have pull cord on my ski doo... Mxz 600 '02 that is, now I just need elect start/reverse :-)

[@kevindailey5778]

1000% right. Just like not putting some rear storage on the back. It seems like Ski Doo intenitionally designs their sleds doing this to pad their bottom line. They make really nice accessories, but you sure pay for them.

[@seather863]

2 best sleds on the snow tis year!

[@rondadofeighttired6094]

Polaris!! GPS trail maps,the cherry 🍒

[@mrmoparrr]

Im A Staunch Ski-Doo guy but yer right about the Gps Trail Maps

[@kylew7234]

Good review. Love the opinion piece. I agree, I was wondering why Ski Doo took away the brand stickers because when I was 13-14 out in the trails and saw an XRS I was so impressed by all the cool brands that were part of the sled

[@dr.curious5136]

Both great machines , I went for my first ride yesterday on my 2020 mxz xrs 850 yesterday ... what a Machine , it’s a good time to be a sled head, so many options for your style of riding.

[@PartikleDestroyer]

Great video AJ, would have been nice to hear how they each sounded. Would be interested in seeing a comparison between the XCR Switchback vs the XCR Indy.

[@Joeys990]

Thanks, AJ. Yet another great review. When I talked to you durning the Novi snow show I was waiting for my 2020 Indy XCR 850. You were right, it’s amazing!

[@matthewblank214]

Dang straight they are amazing sleds

[@ML-lg4ky]

What’s most important let’s face it is resale value. Where I’m from the ski doo commands much higher used prices. That is an important factor when deciding which machine to purchase. Cheers

[@jamescantlin1072]

LMAO.

[@Racer57]

I've only ever ridden Polaris, my family too. But that Ski Doo looks so damn good.

[@daryllmroberts7958]

never rode a polaris ever

[@ericthompson3253]

daryll m roberts you guys all crazy 😂lol . I have ridden many different years of each brand and they are all amazing. I’m happy someone else agrees that the skidoo gen 4s look amazing

[@joshrickard7902]

Ski doo all the way

[@Sdm07120]

Great video AJ!. I thought the legth of the video was fine because what i liked the most is the amount of detailed info you gave us about the sleds when comparing them and hearing your personal thoughts and opinions about each thing you covered. I do enjoy the analytical comparisons but I truley am interested in the real world findings, opinions and reviews you guys share with us because we dont get to ride all the latest and greatest back to back like you guys do so when purchasing a new sled those are the things we viewers are most interested in or at least I am. I also enjoy the walk around videos as well as seeing you guys shred so keep up the good work! One other thing, I would really like to see this style of video between the assault and backcountry xrs as well as a 137 Freeride! Those are the 3 sleds im intrrested in for next year, if nothing else would like to see you do the FR because i know youve talked about the other two a fair amout. Thanks, Cheers!

[@snowtrax]

Thanks for the comment and the explanation. I love hearing this kinda stuff! I don't have a free ride on the ground this season but I do have a BC XRS and an SB Assault so I can do that for you for sure. Actually maybe I'll do it this afternoon if I can get out from behind a screen and keyboard, some days aren't as exciting as others. Look for the video, I'll hook ya up! And thanks for watching, we appreciate it ~ AJ

[@Sdm07120]

Sounds great thanks for listening, im excited to hear your thoughts on the two!! I think the assault fits the bill for me as i ride more on trail then off and the fact it comes with storage, gps gauge, led headlights and you get to pick your colors during snowcheck it kinda seems like a no brainer! The problem im having is the fit n finish and the tech ski doo offers(DI motor, pdrive clutch, shot start) makes you feel like your getting your moneys worth because the product is so refined its hard for me to pass up even though the assault on paper makes more sense. Please talk me into one or the other haha but for real im interested to hear your thoughts as to which one you would go with for trail riding and flatland freeriding. What are some of the main differences that would sway you one way or the other. Thanks again AJ hope you guys have a great winter!!

[@tlh001]

Nice review, AJ! I have a ‘19 Renegade 850 XRS with ice cobra 1.6”, so not exactly the same. I rode 3k+ miles last winter, mostly in the UP. Couple thoughts: motor/P drive is strong, linear, predictable - love it. Great traction on/off trail with Ice Cobra, but noisy, max speed around 100mph. I did not get adjustment package, as I set it and forget it. I could never see myself messing with the TS skis. Love the Pilot 5.7 skis - never ridden any ski I like better. I run 8” Center carbide, 4” outside. I love the heavy, precise feel of the Ski-Doo front end. It rails through the twisties and gives me great confidence. My friends on all other brands can’t keep up here. Don’t think it’s my skills, rather the confidence I get from front end-it goes where I direct it. I don’t have much interest in wheelies, but if that’s your thing, Renegade XRS will be frustrating. Don’t need Ski-Doo to add storage - I have Jerry can in position 1, semi hard bag in 2. That works great for trail riding - I’m never short on storage. I like the Poo gauge with GPS. I have glove box extension, but haven’t installed a GPS yet - can’t figure out what to buy. Love the (old) ‘19 Ski-Doo gauge, but miss the built-in compass from my ‘12 Renegade. I have adjustable bars, but always ride in 2nd position back. As you noted, I’d probably use height adjustment more. Both great sleds - I’d have fun with either! Thx!

[@billslabich6543]

The Polaris has yes a lighter front end and a built in GPS, but I would prefer to have better fit and finish in the Doo with a higher tech motor than the Polaris. Just my .02

[@tlh001]

I love my ‘19 Renegade XRS 850 motor. I haven’t ridden the Poo 850, but have friends with Poo 800s and they are great too. My 850 uses a little more oil than my ‘12 800 e-tec, but mileage is about the same - crazy good. I did several 100 mile runs on groomers and still had 3.5gal left. And with my 3 gal. jerry can, my useful range is way over 150 miles. naturally, it sucks a little more fuel off trail.

[@krisi.2011]

That's what she said !

[@caseymaxwell7645]

100 percent right on the fit and finish of skidoo is top of line sit on a Polaris feels like the controls are a kids toy

[@supermotohooligans91]

Casey Harte-maxwell it is a kids toy 😂 it’s like comparing a BMW M5 to a Honda Civic.

[@PartTimeYooper]

@@supermotohooligans91 so its the fit and finish of the M5 that makes it an adult toy? Now if you said M5 to a Camaro or a Challenger, we might be getting somewhere but I'd still tell you the Japanese $ for $ have better fit and finish.

[@lindenmattie2023]

I’d like to see AJ do a review of the Renegade or Renegade X. I know they’re basically just considered trail sleds now and on trail crossovers are normal to be 144+, but I’d be interested to see what he had to say about using basically the original 137 crossover sled as a crossover now in light of all longer tracks, instead of only seeing the ReneXRS and it being reviewed in the trial review format by Mark!

[@carmichaelmoritz8662]

well if he can make a dollar doing it , he will . its all about the money for most people . some people have plenty and still want more . greedy buggers eh .

[@snowtrax]

@@carmichaelmoritz8662 If I'm being honest I don't do this for free, I wouldn't have the time to have another job and do everything we do with DirtTrax and SnowTrax. Well not and stay married lol. Yeah we do get paid a little bit from youTube for these video's but the walk arounds are just because we get folks asking for them in emails, at trade shows and when we stop for lunch at the local sled stop. We strive to produce great content for Network television and KZbin and provide for our families in doing so. Thanks for watching. ~AJ

[@snowtrax]

I believe I have a Renegade XRS out in the stable, but I don't think I have just an X. Let me see what I can do for ya! Thanks for watching and for the suggestion ~AJ

[@lindenmattie2023]

SnowTrax Television awesome man, thanks! Ignore the Naysayers round here man. If you’re able to provide the info and entertainment you do to us, and make a living at it - that’s win win! I hope you guys can make a fortune at it, so long as ya keep it up! Cheers!

[@carmichaelmoritz8662]

@@snowtrax fair enough :)) its still some amount of greed that motivates most people into doing the things they do . just saying .

[@brianrice6993]

That gauge package def sets the Polaris apart. Plus the storage. I’ve been a skidoo guy my whole life.

[@dirttraxtv]

Thanks for the comment Brian, we appreciate it. Your unbiased view is nice to see, have a great winter!

[@keninthewind6216]

I liked your video very much, both Sleds are awesome! I keep wanting and waiting for you to walk around to the other side and let us look at them from a different angle. I would love to be able to snow check a new sled! Currently we have a '12 ASSAULT 144" for me and a ' 13 PRO R 137" for my wife. Never have rode anything newer. NOTE: I had the top end rebuilt on my ASSAULT at 4K miles and put the Wisco piston upgrade kit in it. Mechanic said the engine was in great shape with normal wear! I also just pulled the skid and had the shocks rebuilt. Maybe someday I will be buying a new sled but even then I would wait for a new "left over" model. It's just too much money to snow check ✔ keep up the good work! 👍👏

[@davesharkey1609]

Having ridden skidoos for 25 years and moving to Polaris axys I'd say he is spot on. On everything.

[@not-stock]

If you want lighter, less positive steering on the skidoo, lengthen the limiter strap one hole. Simple, it will then be lighter, less assured, more slippery.

[@s1edneck700]

How about something on the Cat RXC? it's got a completely different setup than the RR...different skid, seat, clutch setup, driveline, suspension calibration, etc.

[@northerntoyota7584]

Another Pro Polaris video.

[@holdenbreau7187]

any one I know who has sat on a skidoo or took one for a test ride was always surprised how a skidoo performs. but people are always in touch with what they know.

[@brendtsimpson9114]

Great review of two awesome snowmobiles...well done. For many years I’ve thought the fit and finish and engine tech in the Ski Doo is top of the line, but the suspension on the Polaris and overall fun factor of the whole snowmobile package continues to make me prefer to ride Polaris. Thanks for the honest review and I chose XCR!

[@snowtrax]

Thanks for all the excellent comments everyone, sorry I can't personally respond to all of them. I had a few minutes today to check this stuff out, loving the good, bad and ugly comments lol. We have thick skin, and we know everyones entitled to their own opinions. Some great stuff in here though, really enjoy reading the comments from folks who put together their ultimate sled from pieces of each one. I do that too, pick the skid from this, the front end from that, the engine from another. Wish we could actually build a sled that way, maybe a future project but I know it's not that easy :-) Again thanks for watching our stuff everyone, we appreciate it even if you don't agree. Thats what makes the world go round! ~AJ

[@muskrathonmml3070]

The Riot X had the telescopic handlebar that he mentioned. Great review as always! Can't wait for the Riot and Riot X review! Finally rode my Riot a few weeks ago and it is awesome!

[@dennisdow6641]

Most all the new features you say you like better about the polaris were on the skidoo first. Upper glove box, rear suspension, 850 motor, rider forward position, ice ripper track, did I miss any. Lighter front end may be a problem pushing in corners. Did you ride one or just read the brochure?

[@phillipmcreavis196]

I like the Indy bc I love Polaris

[@bergerone3]

I love my Arctic Cats, but I can definitely see a quality difference between these two and my sled. Granted the price difference is significant also.

[@bedlambikes]

bergerone3 same here, and Cats have soul. My last 3 Ski Doos...they all ride like a Toyota Camry. Solid and refined, but more of an appliance than anything. My new Cat just has a fun factor that’s quite difficult to describe, with its quirks and all.

[@CanuckianSledCult]

So...Polaris all around, but with the Ski-Doo fit and finish. Also agree with seeing all of the labeling and such, that's one of the reasons I also ride supersport bikes...all that cool tech.

[@snowmanwithahat]

Totally disagree about the branding. I'll rep their logo if they give me a discount for advertising for them. Would rather have a clean sled with only stickers that I put on there.

[@tlh001]

I totally agree, Matt. Don’t clutter my hood. I don’t even like putting registration stickers and trail permits on mine.

[@carmichaelmoritz8662]

@@tlh001 exactly . advertising on anything and i want to get paid for it , just dont put it on my product .

[@kennethbullock5553]

Easy enough, just buy the sled you want and then wrap it in any color you want,and sticker away 😉 with vinal wrap getting cheaper, and yet when the time comes to sell it,unwrap, and it's good as new 👍

[@dirttraxtv]

Everyones entitled to their opinion. I still prefer knowing the cool branded parts that are included on the sled/ATV/SXS/Truck or whatever. Thanks for watching.

[@mikeh4053]

@@dirttraxtv how many accounts your need!??!

[@davidmccomb7120]

Great review AJ, been on Doo for a bit now but would love to try the new Polaris with the conventional rear skid. I agree with the front end being heavy feeling but its a love/hate for me, I'd take the gauge from the Polaris, maybe the front end as well, but its tough to beat all the Linq accessories and I'll keep my KYB's!

[@Qship62]

I added a Linq adapter from Up North Technologies to my 2019 Indy XC because I wanted to put the Linq 3.8 gal fuel tank on the sled for remote rides. They have 1 and 2 position adapters. If you get one make sure it's designed for the Indy or it won't fit properly as I found out the hard way.

[@donalddoan3092]

Gotta love AJ's walk arounds....go something like this....."blah blah blah blah, cough...sniff...blah blah blah, cough...sniff...repeat.

[@nsa6790]

Don’t forget the awkward hand motions and pointing!

[@hassanaugust6530]

i realize I am kind of randomly asking but does anybody know of a good place to stream newly released movies online ?

[@ismaelalessandro7408]

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[@yehudanehemiah6310]

@Ismael Alessandro Yup, have been watching on flixzone for months myself :D

[@hassanaugust6530]

@Ismael Alessandro thanks, I went there and it seems like a nice service :) Appreciate it!!

[@jimstepan3038]

Two things to know: when turbochargers were first used on over-the-road trucks for the mountains, they were referred to as "altitude compensators"! And, I'm SURE all the turbo model sleds will be gobbled up, no matter what price! REALLY NICE review, sir!

[@Deedog315]

Do a review of the rear end ride quality. I have 2020 indy xcr 850 and the rear end is extremely soft. I weigh 225lbs, I have torsion spring on high and all skid clickers set to 2 clicks from hard. Rear end still extremely soft. Not sure what the problem is, help.

[@jasonsamborski6963]

You might need heavier torsion springs from your dealer.

[@danwarn5356]

@@jasonsamborski6963 i agree, not sure of the rider weight they're sprung for from the factory. Just like alignment on new autos are set for a 150lb. driver.

[@myrtlepalmetto5141]

The xcr actually came with .359 springs vs. the .375 we thought we’d get when they advertised stiffer torsion springs. Bait and switch. Got the same springs as the xc.

[@Deedog315]

In the polaris owners manual, it say torsion spring on high for riders 220lbs to 260lbs.

[@myrtlepalmetto5141]

Deedog315 that may be, but they are NOT the springs they were supposed to come with.

[@johnbretonridge7949]

Great Video thanks for the info! Looking forward to be riding one next year!

[@ItDanks]

I've always had skidoo and I'm in the process of considering to buy new. And might be leaning toward polaris. Already rode a G4 mxzx 600 etec and it's a solid machine. As far as the back and forth adjustability goes it's great for double riding. I can sit all the way forward with a passenger on the back and the all the way forward position handles that seat positioning well and is actually fairly comfortable. I can say the same about all the way back for when you're riding with a kid in front of you it gives you that extra little bit to give a comfortable ride. As far as deciding what brand I'll go with I still have no idea lol.

[@Gatnor]

Looking forward to 2023 sled comparison.

[@alaskarailroad3996]

No doubt i would take the xcr. For now my old school 05 700 xc sp and my 80 txl will doo.

[@connorseymour6925]

2020 mxz XRS 850 all the way

[@kennethbullock5553]

Really enjoy the Vids, thank you for the content! Never been a fan of Polaris, but that is a damn nice looking sled!👍still don't think I would own one, but I thank you for all the information, now if I could find a good Arctic cat to compare 😜 thanks for your time showing the different sleds!

[@wamp12000]

I’m 300 miles into my 2020 XCR Indy, I am not sold on this rear end. My 18 XCR had a much nicer rear end. I will continue you adjust but I’m wishing I had stuck with the XCR SB. (With the 850 of course).

[@pyeroy6941]

I just purchased a 2019 850 sb xcr. I had a 2015 800 pro s sb, absolutely loved the ride.

[@robertthompson227]

I've been on the fence about a brand switch. I already have all ski doo gear. I think this video was enough to go for the Polaris. Plus I live in Minnesota, the home of Polaris. I probably needed new gear anyhow. Nice review

[@JeepCherokeeful]

I made the mistake of buying “branded” gear, and it was Yamaha! Sorry, but until they fix their mistakes and build a decent sled, never again. Gear has been sold too;) I love Yamaha motorcycles but sleds? They dumped the 2 stroke and destroyed that market

[@vette-4-life]

That Ski-Doo just looks badass.

[@uplandknight5782]

Really? Their colour schemes have to be the worst around.....and the overall shape.....meh

[@joshpitts7256]

🤦‍♂️ looks like a strung out Ostrich

[@joshuavollert8519]

Looks better than the polaris....that thing looks like one of those walkers from tremors 2 after shock

[@uplandknight5782]

@@joshuavollert8519 so sayeth the blind man lol. Looks like a seadoo

[@joshpitts7256]

@@joshuavollert8519 😂🤣 I guess the world would be very boring if everyone had the same opinion. That Skidoodle is awful looking

[@samleary2733]

I trail ride in NY and have tried a new xrs with a 600 and I own a 600 xcr so I can't comment on the 850. But chassis and suspension wise, I totally understand the appeal of the skidoo. It seems more plush and it always feels smoother to me. The Polaris isn't as comfortable but "talks to me" more. Totally rider preference though. Both are awesome. Good time to be a snowmobiler. Great video. Keep it up guys!!!

[@mikedanaher3413]

I’m split. I love both brands for different reasons. Lol. Skidoo’s are better technology in the engine and clutches. Skidoo’s have better fit and finish and rear suspension. Polaris has the best front end period. I know because I have one. I love that gauge package and the bag you get with the Polaris. I’m hoping to get a test ride on both this year and snow check one or the other in the spring. Definitely going 137 inch skid. I’ll never go back to a shorter skid again. I’m also interested in the two crossover units in 144 and 146. Great content guys. Keep it coming.

[@codymontambeault12]

Skidoo all the way

[@stenny1970]

SnowTrax TV Great review. Could you do a video on - Horsepower of the sleds and Drag race see who the top dogs are.

[@4220zuke]

I weigh 270 on a 2020 skidoo mxz 850 vs my friend's polaris 850 indy. He goes about 190...dead even up to about 50mph and i walked him on the top end by about 3 sled lengths

[@quincee3376]

Another great video !!

[@MichiganJohn]

Cant go wrong with either, but IMO the SkiDoo just looks so much better... the G4 XRS body work reminds me of a snowmobile version of a hot rod! Awesome...

[@ronlaplante3511]

Pretty obvious you prefer the Polaris and for some good reasons. How much does that change in the 600 class?Does the new 600 Etec beat the old liberty enough to sway your opinion? It would be good to know because those are the 2 sleds I am looking at with the 600 engines in them.

[@nsa6790]

Ron LaPlante personally I prefer the new 600r doo. Pulls just like my old 800r and is a tad bit faster then the poo I race every once in awhile

[@minnesota4169]

I prefer the polaris. that sled is amazing, i think the shock package is like pretty much top of the line, it rises smooth and you can zip. i’ve never really rode too much of skidoo, but i am a biast polaris rider haha

[@ethanhighton6028]

I agree 100% with Matt France... I would also rather have a clean sled without logo's on it and if I want logo's I'll buy stickers and put them on myself. SnowTrax has become so slighted toward Polaris products it not even funny anymore. I own both a Polaris and a Ski-Doo and both have pro's and con's, but when you listen to SnowTrax it is SOOOOO obvious they LOVE Polaris products. SnowTrax Ski-Doo negatives: Motor not as linear, Front end too heavy, TS Skis, Adjustable Handlebars, no "included" storage, no branding, gauge package, steering effort etc. SnowTax Polaris negatives: Easier to adjust suspension. Plus they promoted (defended) Polaris on their 850 engines that blew up, so much so they said "I would consider blowing up my engine to get free stuff from Polaris??? Also defended Polaris with now having an Ice Ripper track and clearly stating this is no longer an advantage for Ski-Doo, more underhanded negativity towards Ski-Doo... So, I took my 2018 Ski-Doo MXZ XRS 850 to Accelerated Technologies and everything stated in this video related to the Ski-Doo front end handling / suspension is totally incorrect according the the "suspension experts" at Accelerated. The issue with the Ski-Doo XRS is not the front end weight at all, the issue with the front end is it's too high and needs to be lowered. This was achieved by Accelerated tightening the limited strap by (3) holes which lowered the front end until the front A-Arms are parallel (level) with the ground. Once this was done, the XRS actually handles better than my Polaris. However, I agree "out of the box" the Polaris is a much better handling sled for sure! The gauge package is an obvious advantage for Polaris, this is a no-brainer... But for SnowTrax to defend the Polaris non-adjustable handle bars, this is absolutely ridiculous and for me makes is SOOO obvious that SnowTrax defends and favors Polaris products vs. Ski-Doo. I have NEVER met anyone who didn't like or prefer the Ski-Doo adjustable handle bars vs. any brand non-adjustable bars except for SnowTrax... For me, I have been seeing this reoccurring pattern now for the last 2-3yrs and I am now done with watching SnowTrax. I watch these shows (SnowTrax, Snowmobile TV) so I can learn and get credible knowledge on what is a better product. But SnowTrax shows way too much favoritism towards the Polaris brand and therefore I no longer trust or feel I can count on their weighted reviews and opinions. PS - I love Polaris products, I am a neutral fan... It's just become "embarrassingly" obvious SnowTrax is "in bed" and favors Polaris products. And also, I am not the only one that share this opinion... Signed, A true snowmobile enthusiast / fan...

[@joddaley6510]

Wow you worked really hard on that little story.

[@deanmiller9770]

One thing I never see with these bloated walk around (going over same points 3 or more times) is simple things like maintenance. Such as how difficult is it to adjust clutches and set belt deflection? As an owner of 3 Doo and a Viper currently and over 20 sleds lifetime, it is so much simpler to adjust a TRS clutch for temp or altitude changes to keep the engine in the sweet spot as well as belt deflection on the QRS secondary for belt life. It is these things(pioneering technologies like RER, Etec,SHOT, Rave valves) built into the sled that keeps me on Doo. GPS gauge is cool if you are have groomed trails to grandpa around on everyday. Got the rocky mountains here with vastly different conditions not only daily but hourly many times. Big shout out to Indy Mark Lester.....Great to see him still railing around. (50 plus club myself here)

[@hermitrob5481]

Your on a trail sled review bangin on about your tech knowledge of mountain sleds lol! Reeeeally impressed btw. Talk about bloated.

[@deanmiller9770]

@@hermitrob5481 I currently own 3 mountain sleds and a Renegade backcountry x...along with scores of trail sleds in the past. Might even add another sled to my bloated fleet...still won't be interested in the Lester's ramblings about the same points over and over....and less of your's Mr whack-it

[@hermitrob5481]

@@deanmiller9770 Name calling huh? A bastion of maturity I see. If I wasn't impressed before, I sure am now!

[@jakekuhn4726]

A lot of talk about ski-doo's heavy front end. What would happen if you put a wider ski on it like the 6.9? I had an 08 summit 144 I put a 1.25 track on and clutched for trails. It was the best riding sled I've owned.

[@jakekuhn4726]

The polaris has a wider stock ski also. After all we are riding on the skis.

[@nsa6790]

Doos heavier front end is the result of being rider forward. Some like it(me) some don’t not much you can do to change it but yes maybe a wider ski could help a bit. So could sitting a bit further back on the seat

[@28hanror]

Maintenance never gets talked about on these reviews. Having had both doo and Polaris it seems Polaris helps the customer out in the owners manuals more they give you torque specs and just makes it feel easier for the customer. Ski doo always puts see dealer. This is a big deal for people switching simple things such as clutch weights or chain case fluid. Some people like working on and maintenancing their sleds themselves. As for me it was a huge deal when I switched brands Polaris makes things less complicated under the hood for people who want to do maintenance and accessorize their sleds themselves and not have to bring it to the dealer for everything.

[@snowtrax]

Great comments Rory, you're absolutely right. I'll make sure to mention more in the way of upkeep and maintenance in the future vids. We appreciate the constructive comments, thanks for watching ~AJ

[@donmckenney5916]

I have the 2019 summit sp 850 154 I like it I'm still trying to get use to the T-m though

[@wildman2545]

Ski-Doo ALL THE WAY!

[@Max-my4ig]

GREAT REVIEW. LOVE THE OPINION! keep posting.

[@greatlakespowerstrokefx4]

Can you improve the dynamics of the skidoo by moving back on the seat and riding with your arms more outstretched.

[@jaustinkwack]

Good fast review ! Thanks !

[@jamesmobry4753]

i have rode both and both are incredable sleds your gonna be happy with either one ride what you want and be safe. great video thank you

[@MCmichaelD_]

Is the MXZ a race chassis or is that what the gen 4 rev looks like?

[@snowmanwithahat]

That's just the gen 4 chassis. The xrs has upgraded shocks, adjustable handlebars, no windshield. The chassis and skid are the same for all g4 though

[@440coregalore]

RS running board set the XRS apart from other Gen 4s. They are wider than X and thicker. 11mm vs 9mm I believe.

[@mmmkay7729]

good review I solved the heavy steering on my doo with snow trackers

[@mmmkay7729]

@@ES-pr8bt its like adding power steering lol I got the semi agressive

[@markcarkner4617]

Very very well said AJ. My thoughts exactly.

[@9kalltheway]

What I've learned on skidoo sleds since the first gen 4 came out, they love adding one feature at a time per season. It keeps them selling sleds. My advice to anyone buying a skidoo. If there is something missing on the sled now? They will have it. Be patient and wait because you buy that sled that you can't wait for, it will have it next time. Bought my bcx and the very next year they made the same sled with an xrs and had front piggyback shocks. Huge let down

[@dankresan3067]

Polaris GPS isn't worth much in Canada as trackmaps doesn't work with them. Also needs to tether its key. Ski doo needs to make its motor more accessible. You can have the hood off the Polaris in seconds. Ski doo has 8 screws and would be a true pita on trail side.

[@uplandknight5782]

mine works great....update annually and everything is on the screen...all the trails, roads, everything

[@dankresan3067]

@@uplandknight5782 the trails are less accurate. Put a Garmin with trackmaps next to it and you'll see the difference.

[@uplandknight5782]

@@dankresan3067 accurate as in what???? Now you need to buy a separate unit.....mount brkt or in the case of skidoo a glove box extender and always need to remove it when parked or stopping for a drink or lunch. It does all it needs to do. No other brand offers it, points for that innovation.

[@dankresan3067]

@@uplandknight5782 and if I lived in the USA I'd be all about it. We travel in a group of 4.3 Garmin units and one Polaris display. It works great but the maps are poor. He actually emailed Polaris about it and Polaris complained loudly that trackmaps wasn't willing to work with them. No complaints with the tech. And brp should be coming up with something. Just saying that there's room for improvement.

[@uplandknight5782]

@@dankresan3067 always room for improvement.

[@wasupfool5692]

I agree 100% on the steering, my 900 Turbo is brutally hard to steer when turning going slow.

[@leonardbenson4223]

Hello. Pretty new here for this channel. I would love you guys to give gas mileage in the details. Idk if ur pinning the machines or not just a best guess on how much they use. Like will i have to gas up after how many miles going fast and slow or what ever in the likes.

[@cashtondiabo6050]

Just missing the zr 8000

[@gamercroden6186]

Is there any kind of can I can put on a ArtiCat 440 jag

[@davidr9651]

Garbage Can

[@ajfaust1042]

Lmao

[@fu3305]

Polaris FRONT ski do rear. Lynx engine. Black & grey red highlights 1000 cc TURBO

[@rustbuket6159]

Xcr 850 I like more 😍😍😍

[@tehsnipatres208]

Both sleds look fantastic.

[@PartikleDestroyer]

Both great sleds and they both have their pluses and minuses. I love the fit and finish of the doo but the Polaris is a nice riding machine - both are great looking sleds. One thing I hate, my buddy has the 2018 Renegade and there is no pull start. I hope his battery or starter never die. It seems stupid to me they wouldn’t put a pull start on just in case. I would hate to be 60 miles away from civilization and I can’t start the machine.

[@atvman101]

Please do a 2020 skidoo expedtion extreme vs 2020 polaris titan video

[@davedodge7761]

Radar?

[@jeffmcphail5586]

Best video ever!! Thanks for the information..

[@donaldyoung6396]

Forgot the difference between the headlights. I think the LED's are so much better!!!

[@snowtrax]

We did for sure, thanks for catching it, your right the LED's are superior! Thanks for watching ~AJ

[@robbleblanc]

I think a bunch of stickers placed on the hood by Polaris cheapens it up. I like a clean less is more look. That being said, branding on the actual part is what I prefer.

[@spyder3777]

I know you guys are sponsored by Woody's but some Bergstrom Triple points as the centre runner and just a wear bar on the outside of the Pilot 5.7's makes a world of difference. In my experience lowering the XRS in the front really changes the handling of the Ski - Doo, probably still not Polaris good but flat thru the corners.

[@robertthompson227]

What I'm wondering is if these Polaris engines are as bulletproof as the ones from the 90's? It seems like a ton of old Polaris sleds are still going strong and not nearly as many other brands. Maybe that's a regional thing in Minnesota?...

[@nsa6790]

Robert Thompson The newer poo engines have a much higher fail rate than any other manufacturer including cat, and that says something.

[@2010Greendayfan]

Carter Spratlin that’s far from true bud

[@joshualowe7179]

I am new to sleds. And have an older skidoo. But I like the Polaris trunk! 😁😁😁 I see plenty of beer storage! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@plymcousa3002]

Joshua Lowe skid linq system has a ton of trunk options. Including a cooler.

[@danwarn5356]

@@plymcousa3002 Why would you need a cooler? Bud Light is perfection around 17F!

[@snowmanwithahat]

Sure, bring beer if you want, but you better be using that storage to take your cans with you. Too many assholes are leaving cans laying around the trails at the end of the season

[@tlh001]

I agree with Matt France, better yet, leave you beer at the cabin til you hang up the key for the day. You’ll need all your faculties to hang on to these beasts! And I don’t need want to be dodging you when you’re coming at me on the trail.

[@sheddski2942]

what no arctic cat zr 800 rr ?

[@SideX_Each]

Tell us more about the stickers. I wanted a Doo but man all those stickers on the Polaris have me on the fence!

[@440coregalore]

Jason Tourangeau They add 1hp each

[@davegsxrold929r]

Funny I took those brand sticker off my XCR as well.. lol. But back to Doo this year.

[@snowtrax]

The Stickers represent the high quality parts that are included on the sled, I sense the sarcasm, I get it you don't like stickers but for us it's the inclusion of high quality aftermarket parts you don't have to spend aftermarket dollars above the price of the sled on. But Im guessing cool performance parts aren't something you dig. It's all good, everyones entitled to their opinion.

[@wiks101]

@@snowtrax i love the stickers as well AJ!

[@yeetymagee961]

MXZ🤤

[@royotton5787]

850😍🤩

[@dylandavies3634]

Well this is a video I want to watch

[@austinwilkins9359]

if i could combine them i would put the kyb on the polaris and the rear shock package of the ski doo on the polaris and the engine of the ski doo on the polaris

[@bedlambikes]

No way. Take the Fox Kashima QS3's off the Arctic Cats! (As well as the clutching)

[@nsa6790]

So basically take the entire doo

[@mikeh4053]

What I took from this video is as follows: 1. Cat gives the Lester's absolutely zero. Otherwise a sled would be shown. While they might not get money as in actual cash. However, they can't deny that they are going to butter up to the ones that gives the "gift" to them. 2. Can you afford sleds or not (customers). You don't and should not get a bag on a XRS. It is a Race replica sled. That is what makes them what it is. Sure guys want them. However, buy a different sled. Those don't need an XRS. Never see those bag guys ripping. Sno x like shocks, but only run groommed trail. go figure. 3. that suspension bolt placement isn't a good guide to weight placement. bolt has everything to do with rear skid, not the front ski weight. last... to the lesters. do you like chasing clickers on polaris walker evans every 2 degree temp change on the polaris? worst shocks in the biz period. I don't pay to advertise all the brands. i'm not some early 2k era racer. that time past. thanks skidoo for not being so into yourself.

[@NITROUSnBIASPLYS]

Which years polaris 800 are the best engines? Durability wise

[@coryroot]

XCR is a race sled you don’t want one of those flimsy bar adjusters on a race sled. Also you want the bar risers in line with the steering stem not forward or back

[@snowtrax]

I agree it's a race sled, but XCR, XRS, RR and the like are all now bought by folks who ride them on the trails and 99% of them never see any kind of racing except to the end of the lake. Thats why they valve them for trails not track, I do remember when they were a true race sled through, fun to jump, rode like garbage lol. Thanks for watching and the comment, we always enjoy reading everyones opinions. ~AJ

[@caseymaxwell7645]

I agree that if your buying a race inspired xrs skidoo could bring back the race sled graphics with the brand names, XPs, kyb, vforce etc, when you say throw this plastic in the garbage and give us storage the battery is right under that plastic so could be a different way to look at it as it makes the battery more accessible however storage is important.

[@MIDEVOL1]

I've been a skidoo guy since i was a kid, but that ride command from Polaris is definitely a game changer for riders that are in unfamiliar territory. And i tried out last winter riding and was amazed at the performance

[@matthewjohns7220]

Dave Laro well put. Now we just need to switch you from Pearl to Ludwig😁✌️

[@MIDEVOL1]

That isn't gonna happen. Been a dedicated pearl player for 25 years now

[@zacsm8481]

2022 polaris goes more rider fwd??

[@kennethbullock5553]

On a separate note I would like to hear your thoughts on comparing the Polaris to the Riot9000, now I might be showing my ignorance in trying to compare those two, but I haven't actually looked at the machines, and I am an old fart that hasn't kept up with the current information on the sleds, what they are doing,I get as much info as possible from channels like this one 👍

[@snowtrax]

I don't see any ignorance at all Kenneth, we all have different sleds we are considering so any head to head is cool in our books. There aren't many Riots floating around for press to use this season so I'm not sure I'll get one for the winter here but we did test the 8000 Riot and it's a great sled. If your specifically looking at the Riot vs the Polaris SB Assault your gonna love episode # 3 this season, we have a great 144/146 shootout story including all 4 brands. It'll be out mid January.

[@kennethbullock5553]

@@snowtrax sounds awesome 👍 I look forward to it!