SNS 325: Large Fixture Plate for Stoker Engine Machining

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Abom79

Abom79

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@PhilG999
@PhilG999 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my days in the Mill Supply business many years ago (like early 80s). One of my tasks was building custom pump and motor bases out of ship channel. No decent tools, just a mag base drill. Layout with Dykem, scribe, punch, drill, hand tap. First one the boss kept coming over: "Aren't you done yet"? I said: "Do you want it done fast? Do you want it done right? Or do you want it done 'half-fast' (think about it) and 'half-right'?". I have NO idea what they charged the customers for those but I was paid by the hour... What I DO know is after a while when the customers called up for another base and they all said: "Have the guy that did the LAST one do THIS one!"
@thatdude101ish
@thatdude101ish 4 жыл бұрын
good one phil well said!
@edsoutlawmotorsports1332
@edsoutlawmotorsports1332 4 жыл бұрын
Much the same as "good, fast, cheap...you can only pick 2"
@yqwgjsg
@yqwgjsg 4 жыл бұрын
There seems to be some irony that as a kid I used to play around this engine in Centennial park in Nashville and now I’m watching a young man who wasn’t born at the time work on it in Florida.
@Abom79
@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff huh!
@sandersn4
@sandersn4 4 жыл бұрын
People who build boats are used to shapes and hole patterns that aren't square. For your 4 holes pick any three holes. Measure the distance between each of them. Pick a spot on your plate and measure the distance between a pair of the original holes. Now swing a small arc from one of the holes to make the base of a triangle. Swing another arc the distance of the hypotenuse. Where the arcs intersect will give you the location of the three holes. Now measure the distances to the other hole from the ends of the same diagonal. Swing two more arcs. You will have four hole locations that are correct no matter how out of square they are. Great channel. I've watched every one of your videos. Thanks for all the info you share.
@Abom79
@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff 👍🏻
@flat-earther
@flat-earther 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand I would need a visual instruction..
@sandersn4
@sandersn4 4 жыл бұрын
@@Abom79 Thanks. Of course, don't forget to flip the hole locations if you're flipping the piece you're measuring. Best to label the holes A, B, C, D to help keep them straight in your head. Ask me how I know...
@arfonjones7188
@arfonjones7188 4 жыл бұрын
@@flat-earther This might help: For a "rectangular like" shape A,B,C,D (clockwise), measure AB, BD and DA. Mark AB on your plate. Put compass point on point B and do arc of BD. With compass point on point A do arc of DA to intersect arc of BD. This gives location of point D and can mark side DA. Measure BC and CD. Compass point on point B draw arc BC, compass point on point D draw arc CD to intersect arc BC. This gives point C and so can mark sides BC and CD.
@flat-earther
@flat-earther 4 жыл бұрын
@@arfonjones7188 Now I understood thank you very much! I just marked four random points on paper and followed your instructions to transfer it onto another paper and it came out exactly same, it is awesome.
@nashguy207
@nashguy207 4 жыл бұрын
Adam I want to thank you for helping with the restoration of the Nashville steam engine 576 I grew up going to centennial park and playing on this steam engine I was so excited when they announced they were going to move this to the train museum and restore it. I have been watching Keith and the other people in the YT community that have been helping with this restoration I can't wait to take a ride on this train!
@1986aml
@1986aml 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite time of the week is here again.
@ZaphodHarkonnen
@ZaphodHarkonnen 4 жыл бұрын
One of the parts I enjoy most about your videos is how you keep repeating all the health and safety practices you use. It truly is vital for people as visible in the community such as yourself to routinely talk about these things. As new or young people in the industry see you pointing it out as important, it is massively more likely they will follow your lead. Even if they feel pressure from elsewhere to cut safety corners. The machining content is great. But you’re literally saving lives through your repeated leadership of health and safety.
@robertharker
@robertharker 4 жыл бұрын
Another great Abomb video. Working on Abomb sized parts with Abomb sized tools and equipment. I really liked the layout section. Good layout is critical. Watching your process of laying out the plate was great with all your tips and hints. Using both sides of a scale to set it at 90 deg. was new to me. "5 1/4 on both sides." Your kicking the plate to check the magnet is important. Great tip on handling heavy objects safely. It is so easy to forget how unforgiving heavy plate can be. Keep up the great videos.
@sparkplug1018
@sparkplug1018 4 жыл бұрын
The method grandpa taught me was hit it a few times with a dead blow hammer, if it doesn't budge after that it should be good to go. I asked him at one point why not just kick it a few times? His logic was well if you kick it that gets your other foot much closer to it.
@JohnDoe-es5xh
@JohnDoe-es5xh 4 жыл бұрын
Abomb 😂
@TgWags69
@TgWags69 4 жыл бұрын
@18:50 I don't want to say it isn't close enough for this particular job, but there a fundamental error in accuracy by doing the second "90 degree" layout line by splitting the difference from the sides. It should be squared off of the first center center line to avoid the possibility that the two layout lines are not at 90'. As you said the metal was flame cut and the sides probably won't be parallel.
@Abom79
@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын
Correct. I should have measure off center line but didn’t think about it until after I was finished. However, measuring them out they are near as close as you can get.
@TgWags69
@TgWags69 4 жыл бұрын
@@Abom79 I've been there too. I want to make sure you know I wasn't disparaging your work. I assumed that you would catch any problems with a final check, which is easy to do by putting a square on it, I guess I just noted it for the sake of somebody following along or doing it for the first time. Glad to see the stoker job, I've been anxious to see it
@arfonjones7188
@arfonjones7188 4 жыл бұрын
@@Abom79 You might consider using your whiteboard ( seen you use it in a previous video) to explain the textbook method of marking out that you are about to use. Might give better clarity and draw less scrutiny.
@chemech
@chemech 4 жыл бұрын
Adam - lots of good rigging work in this video - shows how a single person can safely move some heavy stuff by themselves.
@shawndoran2879
@shawndoran2879 4 жыл бұрын
Amen
@adriannavarrofonseca7179
@adriannavarrofonseca7179 4 жыл бұрын
Heavy weight safety BUT what about the grinder... I don't understand WHY if Abom having so much experience... he doesn't matter about a crash grinder disc or a particule of abrassive material in his eyes... a facial protection is not a luxury!
@wmwho
@wmwho 4 жыл бұрын
I very much enjoyed the Big Haul, and look forward to next year. Having said that... it is great to be back in the shop!
@dracodranor2452
@dracodranor2452 4 жыл бұрын
The work I used to do required tolerances less than .001 inch layout and machining. We used an optical sight every time. We called them "bomb sights". A couple of pointers .... Rotate the optical sight in the base. All of them have a small amount of error and you will see your "target" orbit around true center. We also made a block with a 1/2" hardened drill guide pressed in it. Drop in a 1/4" id drill guide, align the location with the optical, clamp the bar down, drop in the needed size drill guide, drill, drop in the reamer size drill guide, and finish the perfect hole. Yes, I have a lot of drill guides ....... Also, look into paralax effect, try to remove your vision as a locator. I use a step block on the edge of my scale or put the scribe in the mark and bring the scale to it. Great videos as always!
@lerkzor
@lerkzor 4 жыл бұрын
40 minute video felt like about 15 minutes. Your content is informative and entertaining, thanks so much for sharing with us!
@guyjclark
@guyjclark 4 жыл бұрын
I have two comments to make on this video and the complaints some people have: Not all of the viewers are highly trained, experienced machinists. Some are just interested in how machining is done. I"m a old electrical engineer, so I didn't do much shop work while in school. Any time I've watched Adam do something I've seen multiple times, I simply press the right arrow key on the computer to fast forward a few seconds. Get through the "boring" parts quickly. We're all watching these videos basically for free, so I think some of the comments are kind of rude. (personal opinion). Second comment is that I think that optical center device needs to have some small but powerful magnets added just above the cork layer in order to make it less likely to slip off center while the magnifying reticle is exchanged for the punch. Just an idea...
@xaytana
@xaytana 4 жыл бұрын
Optical center punches work better with clamps to hold them in place. If you put magnets in the base for use when punching ferrous materials, you're going to encounter an issue of it either not wanting to move when you're trying to align it, or it'll move when you want it stationary; the cork is meant to help grip the material to negate movement, but you see how well that works, and a magnet too weak will do the same, but a magnet too strong will make it tedious to align, with no real balance point between the two. You don't want the tool itself to fixture itself to the material, which is why you use external fixturing. A magnetic base toggle clamp would work well for this situation, especially out in the center of the piece. But with non-ferrous materials, the only way to actually do this is to have deep throat C clamps, or an alternative fixture, that's more complex than just a clamp, to hold the punch in place.
@terry6131
@terry6131 4 жыл бұрын
I was given an optical center punch plus many other engineering tools, small 123 / v blocks files etc. Elderly couple next door, Eric was a hobbyist engineer who passed away in 2018. After clearing out the big tooling, I was offered several engineering wooden tool boxes full of all sorts. It filled a hole in my engineering tool box and promised I would pass them all on to my lad whose just starting out on an engineering career.
@Ddabig40mac
@Ddabig40mac 4 жыл бұрын
A bona fide Black and Decker Wildcat 9" grinder! It's a cryin' shame the way that tool has devolved since it got rebranded to DeWalt.
@deavall1
@deavall1 4 жыл бұрын
Queue AvE...
@Abom79
@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын
I have three of them but that particular grinder belonged to my dad. It’s gots to the most power of any grinder I’ve used, and the suicide locking switch to boot!
@Ddabig40mac
@Ddabig40mac 4 жыл бұрын
@@Abom79 , that grider was my introduction to the steel industry 23 years ago. 10 hour days, 5 and a half days a week for three months.
@IceBergGeo
@IceBergGeo 4 жыл бұрын
Black and decker used to be the good tools... Never knew about the wildcat grinder, but the super sawcat was pretty bitchin...
@tomt9543
@tomt9543 4 жыл бұрын
There’s very little with the DeWalt name on it that’s worth having in 2020! I started welding in 1976, and in those days there were no 4-1/2” grinders! Just those monster 7/9” Wildcats! I still have one, but just looking at it brings back memories of a nasty tangle between a wildcat w/wire cup wheel and me & my wrangler shirt in 1979! I don’t need to tell you who won! I had scars for 6 years!
@paulerenberger1286
@paulerenberger1286 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, I applaud your stance on safety. I liked how you checked to make sure the magnet was going to hold before you even tried to get it to far off the ground!
@EverydayOffRoad
@EverydayOffRoad 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. The fabrication/machine shop I work in USED to do this type of work everyday, but the scope of work has changed and so has the shop. We have gotten AISC certification and now all our plate work is done on a Kinetic CNC Plate Processor. The majority of what we do any more is state and federal fabrications such as bridges and overhead highway sign structures Any actual machining we do is far and few between. We end up mostly cleaning the plates very much like you did at the start of the video. Like watching your videos, reminds me of the past. Keep up the good work.
@uptechextreme2921
@uptechextreme2921 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, an eye of the storm of peace in a whirlwind of nuttiness right now.
@keen0515
@keen0515 4 жыл бұрын
So glad you're finally working on this. I've been waiting ages to see this stoker engine again.
@DangerousSportsForSeniors
@DangerousSportsForSeniors 4 жыл бұрын
I love seeing the process. You can’t just throw it up on the table and turn the machine on. Thanks as always
@0verboosted
@0verboosted 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t really get the point of the flex arm if you can’t do drilling operations like this with it - seems like if you have to go in and drill it with the mill you might as well tap it in the mill as well. Maybe for production work it would have more functionality? Haven’t seen much use of it since you got it, looking forward to see where its value comes in.
@marksnyder2232
@marksnyder2232 4 жыл бұрын
An old draftsman's trick I heard for lining up with marks is to place your scribe (or pencil, or whatever) point on the mark, then slide the rule over to contact it. This helps account for any point to shoulder offset from the way you are holding the scribe. For a true scribe held at an angle as you do, it's not much difference, but with some other marking devices it can really help with lineup.
@Joe___R
@Joe___R 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I did to improve my optical center punch was to put 2 small but strong magnets into the base to help it stay in place once you have found your mark.
@ae8000
@ae8000 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Adam, best regards from Germany. I really like your videos and have already learned a lot. LUX Tools is an inexpensive house brand from our local hardware store called Obi, but I'm glad you enjoy that Centerpunch so much. ;-) Please keep it up!
@Abom79
@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын
It still has the factory grind on it and I’ve been using it for at least 5 years.
@ae8000
@ae8000 4 жыл бұрын
@@Abom79 German quality :D
@markgordon4368
@markgordon4368 4 жыл бұрын
Something cathartic and tactile about working with a nice thick quality piece of steel ⚒️
@samuraidriver4x4
@samuraidriver4x4 4 жыл бұрын
If you take a oxy acetylene torch with a big rosebud you can get the mill scale off very easy. The second you hit it it pops off the steel.
@flat-earther
@flat-earther 4 жыл бұрын
Cool I didn't know
@Pamudder
@Pamudder 4 жыл бұрын
Adam: your skill as a teacher shines through.
@jikemenkins7098
@jikemenkins7098 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, layout work is some of my favorite to watch! It's not boring!
@andrewterry8092
@andrewterry8092 4 жыл бұрын
Great video for anyone interested in layout and scribing prep for machine work. Well done, thanks Adam.
@wilsonhardy2100
@wilsonhardy2100 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the whole process of the layout and thought process behind why you do each step. Thanks for the class on machine layout.
@yambo59
@yambo59 4 жыл бұрын
Very good information, but geez I remember the good old days when one was guaranteed chips in virtually every episode--lol - Should be one heck of a shaper fixture plate though.
@andrewterry8092
@andrewterry8092 4 жыл бұрын
I am also missing the old days with lots of machine work.
@Doug_Edwards
@Doug_Edwards 4 жыл бұрын
Give him a break, he was grinding making small chips.
@andrewterry8092
@andrewterry8092 4 жыл бұрын
@Right Round Yes, I'm sure Adam appreciates you telling people not to watch his channel. What bothers you? I still love Abom79 and will continue to watch every single video, regardless of your opinion. Thank you.
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing with us Adam, looking forward to seeing the finished project. 👍👍👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@avoirdupois1
@avoirdupois1 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the detail in discussing the layout process. I learned about this in shop class in middle school, it's impressive to see the power of attention to detail.
@SkylersRants
@SkylersRants 4 жыл бұрын
Someday I hope to learn whatever happened to the radial arm drill. I’ve been anxious to see that and I think it would be a great tool for drilling those holes.
@ColtaineCrows
@ColtaineCrows 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't it sitting outside under a tarp waiting on... Whatever it was Abom was going to do to it? Restoration or something, I don't rightly remember.
@flat-earther
@flat-earther 4 жыл бұрын
Oh right lol I remember that radial arm drill I wonder what's up with it. He put a tarp on it before
@alewis8765
@alewis8765 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like you're measuring the holes from closest edge to closest edge. Always measure center to center. Way less confusion when the holes are slightly different sizes.
@TomTalley
@TomTalley 4 жыл бұрын
Suggestion. I found when drafting that I could accurately place the pencil or pin on the mark, then move the straightedge to the pencil being held in place. Either way works...love the content.
@chascarpenter5006
@chascarpenter5006 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say, thanks Adam for the video, really enjoyed it, again, no rush job, get it right first time.
@MetrologyEngineer
@MetrologyEngineer 4 жыл бұрын
Before watching this I already know it's going to be a fantastic video. Thank you so much and keep up the great work!!! I'm going to go make a handheld countersink holder out of 4140 as I watch this:)
@Abom79
@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good project 👍🏻
@WoLpH
@WoLpH 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the video Adam. Great to see a project without a new product/brand introduction :)
@userwl2850
@userwl2850 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love that centre tool. Lots of times that would come in handy for my Bridgeport.
@TargetZer0
@TargetZer0 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see this store of episode back. Love your work Adam. Thanks for sharing :)
@evilbrat5376
@evilbrat5376 4 жыл бұрын
Like your use of the optical center set. Great precision instrument for centering drill points.
@MrDannyd9
@MrDannyd9 4 жыл бұрын
The soothing sound of chips flying are great to sleep to. Better than any other ambient noise.
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the machining of the Stoker Engine crankcase.
@Dwarfracer88
@Dwarfracer88 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect job for the radial drill out on the driveway.
@jerrywallis599
@jerrywallis599 4 жыл бұрын
In our shop we call the hammer a precision percussion adjustment instrument. Love your videos and learn so much. Thanks
@Abom79
@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын
#percussionmechanics 😁
@ydonl
@ydonl 4 жыл бұрын
I think he really enjoys this kind of work. He mentioned "kinda fun" at one point, but I think he likes the whole layout thing; it's a bit different frame of mind from the "usual" stuff, I think. Great stuff!
@thebear5454
@thebear5454 4 жыл бұрын
Yahoo...I've been waiting for work to start on Keith's Stoker engine parts.
@steveharrison1144
@steveharrison1144 4 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this for a while. Not disappointed!!
@Joeyardmaster40155
@Joeyardmaster40155 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, I really enjoyed doing layout work like that when I was still working, measure Twice and Drill & cut once, Joe, Baltimore MD.
@benedictoburbos8156
@benedictoburbos8156 4 жыл бұрын
Watching in asia philipines nice also watching your old videos Latheman
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 4 жыл бұрын
As always...l loved every min. of this video.....Thanks very much.....!
@HighMansx
@HighMansx 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder how many times someone's accidentally hammered the lens portion of the optical center only to realize they forgot to swap it out! Hahaha Love the videos!
@annkoehler8017
@annkoehler8017 4 жыл бұрын
Only once! LOLOLOLOLOLOLO
@k9elli
@k9elli 4 жыл бұрын
Started wondering “why didn’t he use a 9” grinder to clean the plate?” And then I remember it’s @Abom79 and tools built for mere mortals aren’t to scale when used by him.
@grntitan1
@grntitan1 4 жыл бұрын
My optical center punch has crosshairs. Makes it a breeze to line up with scribed crosshairs. One of my favorite tools.
@HAGmbHkeG
@HAGmbHkeG 4 жыл бұрын
If you rotate the crosshair by 45 degrees, you can even make sure you don't accidentally line it up with a shadow of the scribe lines so you're off by a bit. seems a bit more versatile than the one with the dot to me.
@L00S3H3AD
@L00S3H3AD 4 жыл бұрын
The mill scale looks like a piece of art
@lennartb2982
@lennartb2982 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Adam You hade the red Ving sho on you !Lou are the best, begärts Lennart
@joshsassin7694
@joshsassin7694 4 жыл бұрын
I’m always amazed at the attention to detail and precision. Adam, I could only hope neurosurgeons would strive for your level of perfection. 🧐
@timothyforney1164
@timothyforney1164 4 жыл бұрын
I said it before, you need a bigger mill. That plate makes the K&T look tiny. For just cleanup and layout it held my attention the entire time. Always something new to learn and I'm always looking forward to your sns videos. See you next week.
@silasmarner7586
@silasmarner7586 4 жыл бұрын
As he mentioned twice, he NEEDS the plate to utilize the full throw of the machine. So if he got a bigger machine he'd need yet a bigger fixture plate. So you'd be chasin' yer tail so to speak.
@timothyforney1164
@timothyforney1164 4 жыл бұрын
@@silasmarner7586 He needs the plate for the shaper, but he will most certainly have to turn the plate around to do all of the holes in it, so he needs a bigger mill. Who are we kidding, he'll get a bigger shaper someday anyway.
@toolwarrior1773
@toolwarrior1773 4 жыл бұрын
That optical method of finding a center is awesome. I want one of those!!
@iceowl
@iceowl 4 жыл бұрын
finally, the restoration work i've been waiting to watch ^_^
@michaelday7890
@michaelday7890 4 жыл бұрын
When I worked in a steel yard 40 yrs ago all plate steel was moved by magnets, it was somthing to see a 12'x 12'x 8" plate JUMP to a magnet to be placed on a burning table that used 12 torches to cut with.
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 4 жыл бұрын
That would be neat to watch.
@caseysmith1718
@caseysmith1718 4 жыл бұрын
I swear chain hoists are the loudest things on this entire planet
@ratdude747
@ratdude747 4 жыл бұрын
Optical Center Punches are nice indeed. I once used one when I needed to drill a new "clocking" dowel hole on a robot tooling chuck (mounted with 6 bolts in a hex pattern, datumed by a concentric round boss/cavity and said "clocking" dowel pin). Somebody previous had mounted the chuck w/o the dowel pin (probably because the stock layout didn't work for the tooling), and as a result, over the years there was quite a bit of movement/drift in the assembly. Thankfully, all that movement/drift left a witness mark in the anodized aluminum (behaved like dykem), and said optical center punch allowed me to get the relocated hole drilled and it all fit like a glove. Nowhere near the amount of drift/repeatability issues now that it's all properly locked down.
@geraldharvill4699
@geraldharvill4699 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you use the flex arm tapping/drill machine?
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, I've seen optical center punches before but never with a cork base, also I don't remember seeing you without your hat on, so two firsts tonight - lol. Take care Paul,,
@nathanquinlan2719
@nathanquinlan2719 4 жыл бұрын
I've used the sponge looking abrasive discs for rust and paint to knock off the loose milscale so you scribe lines are cleaner. Couple of minutes to save more time.
@CB71SS
@CB71SS 4 жыл бұрын
Been watching Keith's channel for a while, it was the stoker engine that got me interested in his channel. I live close to Nashville and when I was little my mother use to take us to Centennial Park where it was. Saw it on the news where they were going to restore it then lucked out see it mentioned on Keith's channel. Just subscribed to your channel will be looking forward to up dates on your progress.
@vijayantgovender2045
@vijayantgovender2045 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Adam I enjoy watching your videos I am from South Africa
@frfrpr
@frfrpr 4 жыл бұрын
Filming this good takes content to a higher level. It's almost like being in class. Top shelf editing and filming. Thanks
@Abom79
@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@xaytana
@xaytana 4 жыл бұрын
I've always used clamps with optical center punches. I've found that no matter what material is used on the base, they always want to slip around just enough to not accurately mark. Magnetic base toggle clamps would be great for jobs like this, especially for people that don't have massively deep C clamps.
@davidbackman4442
@davidbackman4442 4 жыл бұрын
I've never used an optical center punch. But that design with the double holes makes me wonder how many times the center punch has been put in the wrong hole and then marked. Or is there a feature to the holes making this impossible? It's the basic Murphy's Law: " anything that can go wrong will eventually go wrong. And at the worst possible moment."
@ChuckFickens1972
@ChuckFickens1972 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidbackman4442 If a person can't remember which of the holes they pulled the sight out of 3 seconds prior to inserting the punch, or if for some reason do make that mistake then not spot the centre punch mark is 20mm off from the scribe marks then they probably should be restricted to using crayons and plastic scissors instead of being in a machine shop.
@ChuckFickens1972
@ChuckFickens1972 4 жыл бұрын
Adam was making the mistake I got told off for by my father when he taught me to use an optical punch, the double tap with the hammer. line it up, swap to the punch and then TAP, not tap, TAP.
@grahamstretch6863
@grahamstretch6863 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChuckFickens1972 Now that is funny, I often see people do things and think to myself “I bet you ate the crayola!” 👍
@erneststorch9844
@erneststorch9844 4 жыл бұрын
Fifty years ago I was cutting heavy steel bars to length on a horizontal mill . I was lifting them with electromagnet . I lifted one off the machine and lower down on a skid . I reached down to release the magnet and just before I did the piece dropped off on to the skid . I was supposed to check the gage on the magnet to see how power it still had. That drove home pretty fast what could have happened. It needed to be put on charge . I was awfully lucky .
@wktodd
@wktodd 4 жыл бұрын
Once set square on the shaper, why not use the tool to scribe some long reference marks in the plate?
@deavall1
@deavall1 4 жыл бұрын
Adam, correctly and consistently demonstrates the importance of manual handling in a shop. It is always best to stop for a minute and evaluate the best lifting system. Brut force is always necessary, however, it is just as ok to protect yourself. I also think @Abom79 could do with a shop length gantry system. What do we all think?
@somethingsomeonesaid6455
@somethingsomeonesaid6455 4 жыл бұрын
would be nice, would get something off the floor space, but its the practicality of setting it up and amount of use.
@deavall1
@deavall1 4 жыл бұрын
@@somethingsomeonesaid6455 The A frame is a space hogg also? Maybe both would compliment with manoeuvrings? Anyways small point...
@spehropefhany
@spehropefhany 4 жыл бұрын
The difference between auction price and new installed price can be quite impressive. If he keeps his eyes open..
@johnnyholland8765
@johnnyholland8765 4 жыл бұрын
I know you have been doing some rambling and that is good too but glad you are back in the shop...
@demianmoody148
@demianmoody148 4 жыл бұрын
man you've really gotten in sahpe man! looking good!
@KG-yn9qi
@KG-yn9qi 4 жыл бұрын
Yes ! Love it on with the show! Waiting for this work!
@geoffreykail9129
@geoffreykail9129 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you use your new drilling and tapping machine?
@hippis563
@hippis563 4 жыл бұрын
And abom79 the more mekanik the better !
@drewbranje6680
@drewbranje6680 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly i think that optical center should have a magnet base to help prevent minor movements because knowing me i would acidently move it 🤣
@infoanorexic
@infoanorexic 4 жыл бұрын
Nearly 40 minutes, and was over too soon for me. My OCD would have been at wide open throttle while laying out something like that. Too many time I have tried to lay out a measured bolt pattern, and somehow have one (or more) off by half a hole. Always the most difficult to correct without a vertical mill or annular cutters.
@fedderback1
@fedderback1 4 жыл бұрын
If you use some Xylene on a rag you can erase those mistake lines from the sharpe.
@chemech
@chemech 4 жыл бұрын
70% isoprpyl (rubbing) alcohol from the drugstore cleans off Sharpie ink, and does less damage to plastics - and isn't carcinogenic... except maybe to the Statye of California...
@motari6249
@motari6249 4 жыл бұрын
Love the way you set up everything Adam. Thank you i learned a lot ❤
@georgeescaped6035
@georgeescaped6035 4 жыл бұрын
looks heavy how about a weight scale on your gantry hook to see how heavy things are? like the stoker engine thing..
@donpetrey8007
@donpetrey8007 4 жыл бұрын
Another good episode this is my winter sanity
@scotte2815
@scotte2815 4 жыл бұрын
comment 3 been waiting for this so good to see some progress
@hubertwhitlock9968
@hubertwhitlock9968 4 жыл бұрын
I used to have one of those optical center punches at work that I used and I really did like it
@FROGGS01
@FROGGS01 4 жыл бұрын
It's always nice to see how you're dealing with safety.
@daveyork701
@daveyork701 4 жыл бұрын
What about using a radial arm drill?... When will that restoration start!!!
@robertbrainard5239
@robertbrainard5239 4 жыл бұрын
What does a piece of metal like that cost. Material and delivery?
@saurabhsharma-ts6ky
@saurabhsharma-ts6ky 4 жыл бұрын
A pro tip for you, don't use cup type wire brush in your expensive grinder it is not perfectly balance That can cause grinder bearing failure.
@tomt9543
@tomt9543 4 жыл бұрын
Did you do a vid on the fabrication of the A-frame hoist? Looks like a simple yet bulletproof design! I bet you can’t imagine operating without it!
@RickBaconsAdventures
@RickBaconsAdventures 4 жыл бұрын
a long time ago he showed modifying it but he has had it way longer than youtube. I don't remember if he said his dad built it or if he built it way back then
@tomt9543
@tomt9543 4 жыл бұрын
@@RickBaconsAdventures Thanks Rick!
@lesleyboeder1798
@lesleyboeder1798 4 жыл бұрын
How heavy is that chuck of steel
@cameratool
@cameratool 4 жыл бұрын
Did you measure the diagonals so you could correct for parallelogram skew? All your layout lines assume the hole pattern is roughly rectangular.
@IceBergGeo
@IceBergGeo 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed something, but, when he was finding the center of the width (second center finding) did he use the dimensions of the material, rather than being square to the original line?
@markanderson5777
@markanderson5777 4 жыл бұрын
Yes he did. I've never laid out a bolt pattern on an amorphous plate without using trammel points and some geometry. I was taught the technique and have never seen it in use by others since. Served me well in my career, but I guess it's another old school trick lost to time.
@IceBergGeo
@IceBergGeo 4 жыл бұрын
@@markanderson5777 I'm not a machinist, and as such, don't have that sort of equipment, but there are ways of finding square without such tools. I have had to lay out things in the construction industry, and walls are much better when they're square, and conduits are best in walls.... So, yeah. Gotta make sure you weren't dealing with a rhombus instead of a perfect square.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 4 жыл бұрын
I would have determined the plate center and then worked every thing out from there. Too much likely hood of errors coming up going from the edges as that way you are using 4 different references rather than one.
@aqcd
@aqcd 4 жыл бұрын
its interesting to see the logistics of moving these large components just to get the layout needed. did you double check the perpendicular for the two centerlines with a square or compass or just line them up carefully? looking forward to see how the fixturing comes together to hold that casting on the shaper.
@charlescartwright6367
@charlescartwright6367 4 жыл бұрын
Aloha Adam, I always have to wait until the photo of you, your dad, and grandfather pop up before I go, Have someone Morph Stella in tue upper RH corner and it would be complete.
@ProudMary53
@ProudMary53 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative video Adam. Love watching both of your channels, better than having to endure all the political crap that's going on at present. Cheers from the land downunder. Pete
@joopterwijn
@joopterwijn 4 жыл бұрын
An easy way is take a ‘print’ of the non symmetric holes would be with a peace of paper or board and transfer the hole with a small spay of spray paint. Small pray on/around each hole, punch the paper/board on and then turn around (dry) punch the centers en your ready.
@thekaduu
@thekaduu 4 жыл бұрын
1) Pick up the reference point with Haimer, 2) Press [cycle] Start, 3) Done :)
@morphius2003
@morphius2003 4 жыл бұрын
CNC takes all the fun out of machining.
@ryanlukens9280
@ryanlukens9280 4 жыл бұрын
You’re forgetting all the layout work that has to be done in the software. For a one-off like this, not a huge savings for CNC. If this was going to be production of 5-10+ parts, sure fire up the PC.
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