Snuffy's Thoughts on Arcadum

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[@FennaDG]

There’s a saying in the DnD community: “No DnD is better than bad DnD.” This situation is a prime example of why this saying exists. Shitty DM is shitty and dissuades new players from experiencing a game that many enjoy and cherish because they decide to abuse their power.

[@SkineSky]

I misunderstood when I read this comment and thought it was saying that "There is no better DnD then Bad DnD." But after looking it up it makes more sense now.

[@softreyna]

This kinda highlights what bothers me most about this whole situation: if anything, as much as I hate to admit it, he successfully introduced people to D&D. There are so many predators and abusers in the community that honestly it's just not worth it as a hobby if you can't form a game composed 100% exclusively of people you already completely trust, and even then you have to be willing to completely drop it if that changes even slightly. Maybe it's just me being depressed but idk, if I could do it all again I don't know if I'd get into TTRPGs.

[@rodaspi]

@@softreyna Honestly, as long as you keep in mind that not every groups is going to be good and you are prepared to leave a game if need be you can absolutely have a fun game a make a lot of friends through D&D! I'm going to get started DMing my 2nd campaign for a bunch of people that I have met while just looking for a group. But yeah, if you have trouble saying no or being confrontational it's better to only play with people you know or at least with someone you trust.

[@Dancan799]

Did they do dnd and what happened to it?

[@kaykz885]

@@rodaspi How it is going bro?

[@brianmc3486]

Maybe they should run a couple of one-shots off stream. No stress from a live audience, no pressure to do good, just simply having fun with friends.

[@randallhudson6231]

This is actually a really good idea

[@Kratos-eg7ez]

It's a good idea, but I feel like they want to involve their community's in it. The main reason the old campaign was stressful was the dm's style

[@brianmc3486]

@@Kratos-eg7ez Was it though? It was a big reason, that I agree, but I feel that one guy's opinion weighs very little when compared to thousands watching their every move and every decision.

[@kitirena_koneko]

@@brianmc3486 Well, considering that Arcadum was deliberately playing mind games with all of his female players to the point where Nyanners felt she had to get drunk before each session to deal with the stress, by her own admission, says that this guy was more toxic than the reservoirs of Flint, MI.

[@Greatscottwii2]

@@brianmc3486 Yeah considering that they loved the fan art sections and talking about their characters with the communities, yeah it was all Arcadum. Dude have lost 28.5k Twitch followers since this all started

[@JohnFaludi]

I was a bit distraught that Snuffy said she wouldn't be interested in playing again, but relieved to hear that Vei got something together to try again. Also, Snuffy, no apologies are necessary for letting out the rant. It is totally warranted. All I can say is don't let one person's misdeeds sour the entire game. D&D is wonderful, enjoy it!

[@kitirena_koneko]

@@thotslayer9914 In a nutshell, Arcadum was running D&D games, streaming them on Twitch, and trying to cheat on his wife with as many of his female players as he could, playing off their sympathies and guilt tripping them into performing sexual favors for him. A few of his victims got together and realized that it wasn't their imagination, and started spreading the word about what he was doing, making the whole soap opera explode in his face. He gave a half-hearted "apology" where he claimed that he was the real victim, which just pissed off more people to the point where he can't ever show his face on social media again for a long time, if ever.

[@soapbox435]

also good dungeon masters give newbies you know low entry stuff to not overwhelm them so yea when I did my first run it was a real easy tomb run that lead into a eventual grand adventure not something amazing right off the back.

[@ZachPlum]

@@thotslayer9914 how can you not easily guess from this video alone

[@seramorn]

Vei is a bro. We only hear it now and then from others, but she must be super supportive and has this "let's fucking do it!" attitude.

[@danallan986]

To motivate in which sense Brett is a great DM; He allowed a band of unruly goblins to set fire to the school they were supposed to help, and then he allowed them to go and convince the bad guy that they could join him in exchange for power.

[@goopyfungus6286]

God I love those crazy gobos

[@danallan986]

@@goopyfungus6286 The Double-Triple-Quadruple-Cross strategy - 4 Lagos' down

[@goopyfungus6286]

@@danallan986 I'll never not laugh at baby lagos getting beat to shit and the gobos flexing on people that they killed a baby with no explanation at all

[@danallan986]

@@goopyfungus6286 "Skagzag STRANGLED a baby to death! It was AWESOME"

[@OReilly1000]

@@danallan986 "I cast fog"

[@rhunmahariel7877]

Snuffy saying she just wants to fuck around with rat-brain gremlin aura in dnd meshes so perfectly with Brett lol. Between his Goblins game and Octo as Bophades, there's plenty of smooth-brain shenanigans to go around.

[@mazazon]

Goblins was great. I'd call it a good example of a DM letting his players go off the rails. Thinking about the Astral Academy. Like, here's the obvious good guys that all the other groups are working with and they spend an entire session haggling the leader for upfront payment. Dunno if I should talk about the big off the rails example lest I spoil it for someone. They didn't take the obvious/intended path and Brett went out of his way to work it in. Pretty sure they took a week off 'cause they'd screwed up Bretts plans so badly.

[@fyrelorde]

Kinda reminds me of Spurt, the legendary Kolbold

[@RottenHeretic]

@@mazazon was? Buddy. The fun is just starting.

[@johndee277]

Watching it with the pulse monitor REALLY adds a texture to it. Now while I can't say I was directly effected we fans were effected. I know for me as a kid who learned D&D back during the Satanic Panic seeing the level Arcadum was able to rise to, and then see what he threw it away for. Yeah, I'm taking two scoops of schadenfreude from his fall.

[@bonzaiiibeansprout7081]

a bit random but toaday I learned what schadenfreude means now. thanks oco)7

[@Shinyloog20992]

I have no clue what the context of this is

[@MrFelblood]

Watching the number drop when people superchat hug emojis at her is super wholesome.

[@kitirena_koneko]

@@Shinyloog20992 Okay, long story short is that Arcadum was running D&D games on Twitch, and cheating on his wife by playing the "woe is me" card with his female players, trying to get them to pity-fuck him, and guilt tripping them when they hesitated or even hinted that they wanted to leave his games. Things got so toxic that a few of the ladies involved now feel the need for therapy, and when some of his victims got together and compared notes, discovering what a shitstain he was, he gave a half-hearted "apology" and tried to make like he was the real victim. Word got out, and now his name is mud amongst the KZbin/Twitch community, and some of his victims are coming out on KZbin, Twitter, Discord, and other social media to tell the whole story of what happened.

[@Shinyloog20992]

@@kitirena_koneko Yikes, thanks for the explainations. There's a lot to unravel there. Hopefully the victims are doing atleast a little better.

[@OReilly1000]

Still crazy to think that this man said "no more training wheels" and then threw a boss at them... ON THEIR SECOND COMBAT ENCOUNTER

[@psycho728]

to be fair they were just unlucky to encounter that boss so early on. they could have fought any other mistwalker that wasnt as strong but were just unlucky

[@DairunCates]

@@psycho728 So... for all the OTHER fudging Arcadum apparently got caught doing (people found out his "deep notes" were an empty laptop document he stared at while thinking), he should have fudged the situation to give them a better situation if it really was bad luck. This might leave a bad taste in some GM's mouths, but for a game that is PUBLICLY BROADCAST, it is inappropriate to run things completely by the whims of fate. If the party TPKs, that's a VERY unsatisfying ending for listeners, and that is a very real chance if you don't at least tailor some things down for the consideration that those players will be actively trying to be entertaining WHILE thinking of strategy.

[@kylesinnett2479]

It’s a retrospect thing and way to much reading into it but when I listened to Snuffy talk about this last night I couldn’t help but feel that they were purposely left so far in the dark and screwed with that way they’d have to rely on Arcadum helping them and teaching them privately. Especially when she brought up that like a thousand other times he got mad at them for asking someone else for help and tried guilt tripping them about it. Maybe not to the point of manipulation like some of the other girls but maybe so he could feed his ego of being like “oh I taught them this game they’re here now because of me” later on down the line once they understood the game better.

[@FFXfever]

I don't think this is an issue. Sometimes, you just wanna see how much the players understand, and how much the players is able to improvise without knowing the full mechanics. After all, too much handling on a new player and you'll start making them have expectations of how the game supposed to be played, and they might not find creative solutions, like breaking the ice underneath the creature. Imo, the only complaint I have about that fight is that it had too many ways of going wrong, which it did, but, D&D is like that. I think Arcadum's god complex does indeed affect his games, and perhaps he does have the agenda of making the girls rely on him, but the decision itself isn't that bad, and his encounter designs are usually pretty good. Edit: NEVERTHEFUCKMIND, I paused right before the section where she talked about it. Arcadum is fucked up. It's one thing to say "dices can be cruel," but totally different thing to be "you fucked up, this should be an easy fight." Fuck everything I just said.

[@kcofjc2964]

@@kylesinnett2479 I agree. Also when I rewatched the ep. I noticed that when he described the outside of the mists there were tons of roars in all directions. Whereas there was just one roar in the cave. And since they were in the dark about the whole world of verum they (understandably) took their chances with the one in the cave. Unfortunately, it almost ended in a tpk, all because he'd rather them be indebted to him for teaching them the game than, actually teaching them, and letting them get info from outside sources.

[@mariceltdelacruz]

Feels bad man, but I'm looking forward for that new DND session, Brett's fucking awesome

[@klawrence9589]

who is brett?

[@mariceltdelacruz]

@@klawrence9589 another dungeon master, here kzbin.info

[@klawrence9589]

@@mariceltdelacruz thanks

[@connor48880]

Rad

[@anvec6145]

@@mariceltdelacruz thank you for link, been very curious

[@supersonicsteaktacular9076]

13:17 While this is true, it is worth pointing out that a large number of 4chan users hold a major grudge against Nyanners and inviting them to her discord is unbelievably tone deaf.

[@bartholen]

Tone deaf... or a manipulation tactic.

[@kolbywiza6336]

Why do they hold a grudge against Nyanners?

[@umphreak9999]

@@kolbywiza6336 i'm guessing because she matured, realized she can make a living as a professional streamer/voice actor and decided to distance herself from a lot of her real early shitposting content, like any reasonably adjusted adult would do. just a bunch of butthurt children, they can't fathom the idea that someone might look back at content they made as an early teenager, cringe and want to disassociate with it.

[@bartholen]

​@@kolbywiza6336 To my understanding it has to do with her deleting a video she did around 2014. It was a very 4chan type of edgy humor musical parody with jokes about incest and that sort of stuff. She deleted it and disavowed it on her blog, and I guess by association people who liked that video. Since 4channers have skin as tough as wet toilet paper they've since then called her a ""hypocrite". That's my understanding of the thing.

[@kolbywiza6336]

Dang. I forget that nyanners has been on the internet for such a long time. But that makes sense. I feel like everyone goes through their edgy phase when they’re a teen and then most people grow out of it and make adjustments accordingly. Emphasis on most.

[@BATTIS94]

To be honest, I've never watched Arcadum streams before this campaign. But watching session 0 I couldn't stop thinking "is this guy really just throwing tons of information at them just like that on stream?". I'm glad she talked a bit about that too, because that was not beginner friendly AT ALL. For my first time playing, the DM pointed me to some resourses so I could read a bit about races and classes and stuff through the week, and showed me the basic mechanics before the first game. Must've been super stressing for them to peruse through all the classes and races while on stream, with all the people watching and then not having any way to learn more about stuff. I don't know why people say he's a "beginner friendly" DM. He threw them into the world without giving any example on combat mechanics and them bam! He threw a Dark Souls boss at them and said "I'm not gonna help you with this, that's up to you". Like... That's one way to make people hate DnD... He didn't give a shit about the players, he just wanted to tell his story.

[@jamesprice6015]

He's a joke of a DM.

[@prdprdprdprdprdel]

Beginner friendly lol.. I love the girls, but even tho i was looking forward to the dnd i couldn't watch it because of how sweaty he was... If you have a hardcore RP group that wants to take the game super seriously, then fine.. But for most people, having fun and enjoying the freedom dnd offers is much more important than some super well thought out story and progression.. Getting derailed doing random stuff is super fun..

[@hi14993]

About the dark souls boss in and it could work if the dm has a contingency if the PCs fail. I did it once where the boss just knocked them unconscious and awoke in the middle of transport to be brought up on trumped up charges and had them do a skill challenge to get out of it with whatever way they wanted to. They eventually did get the bbeg and the payoff seemed solid.

[@arykaas]

He WAS a beginner friendly DM... Before Glies. Rewatching the Broken bond (offline TV) campaign, the tutorial skeletons are a genius way of helping newer player get the hang of combat... why did he not create a real tutorial fight for okitakas curse? The hatezombies things that were one shot able don't count, that was clearly more of a rp "fight".

[@emastre16]

When I was a begginer I was just thrown to the wolves, was great. You gotta be okay with failure.

[@zantac180]

Most DMs I’ve met have been thrilled when a player will go out and spend time to learn the game outside of their sessions! My main DM encourages us to talk with people outside the group so that we can all refine the game in order for everyone to enjoy it more.

[@themocaw]

My favorite thing to hear from one of my players is: "I'd like to start a game of my own," or even, "So I joined another group too. . ." I have to admit that I feel a little jealous, but it's healthy to have a broad friend group.

[@gdhuertas07]

God, I would die from happiness if that happened. It would mean that they were genuinely interested and I wouldn’t have to explain shit anymore.

[@themocaw]

@@gdhuertas07 and maybe they'll run a game for me for once.

[@eXJonSnow]

That's not really what happened with Otikata's Curse though. If I was running a Forgotten Realms campaign and my players looked up details outside of game (locations, lore, etc.) or watched streams/videos to get some tips on roleplaying or something, then that'd be great. If my players felt the need to look up stuff because they still don't understand the basic mechanics of the game and are feeling completely beaten down in game, then I would feel awful

[@shadowofaion7950]

Thanks for these "thoughts on Arcadum" videos from the girls, it is good to hear from the players themselves about their personal experiences.

[@liamme54]

Watching this live was actually really cathartic, the girls have found a (potential) new DM and now we all know what’s going on with Otikata’s. Hearing that Tomoe and Nia were gonna hook up and now that can’t happen was the worst part.

[@ResanChea]

Thinking about Tomoe's third leg and Nia just doesn't sit right with me XD

[@liamme54]

@@ResanChea hahaha there was going to be a big time skip in the middle of there campaign and Nia would have been fully grown by then… don’t know if she would have survived anyway tho.

[@jr5687]

They were gonna WHAT?!

[@l0kk016]

@@ResanChea you haven't seen enough hentai.

[@justinchannel128]

Welp, looks like I’m writing fan fiction for Tomoe and nia

[@martinp3166]

I cringe more and more every time I see how incredibly repetitive his "pity bait strategy" was...

[@RottenHeretic]

Atleast in his twitter response he didn't blame anyone but himself. This could've been alot worse. Atleast he's gone. He won't hurt anyone else hopefully, including his family and himself.

[@colt1903]

@@spacecadetred2388 17.8 percent and then "The evidence is empirical"

[@jaytea3085]

21:03 this sounds just like vei. i have so much respect for her - and snuffy, and all the other girls - for making an effort to salvage this fucking unfortunate situation, purely because they had fun and they don't wanna let it go to waste.

[@thomaspernorio346]

her perspective really contextualizes a lot. I've only ever seen him during the campaigns with the vtubers so hearing about what he's like behind the scenes, like what snuffy said, suddenly makes the whole ordeal make sense.

[@nekomancer4641]

Really appreciate Snuffy having the conscious thought that she refrained from jumping on it too much because she does not personally know the peoples too much That's a virtue among internet personalities

[@HoDoBoDo]

Very well said by Snuffy

[@dusky186]

As one of the former staff I agree completely

[@HoDoBoDo]

@@dusky186 noice

[@geminusleonem9365]

Man... I remember getting shit on when I told everyone that Arcadum had absolutely effed up on that boss fight. It was so badly planned for new players that knew NOTHING about D&D that it was insane!

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

Hey I never saw it, and I don't want to watch the episodes. Can you tell me what the thing was?

[@geminusleonem9365]

@@bongosmcdongos4190 Second fight of the girls. They still don't understand how the game works, and the DM is constantly forgetting about their abilities and now we also came to know that they had no access to their sheets. It ends up being this BIG boss with complex mechanics that deals ALOT of damage. The DM refuses to actually teach the girls how D&D works and you end up having stuff like the tank not knowing how to tank and dying and another character almost dying because the DM forgets her special ability (which was not properly shared). It was a shiteshow. You could hear how stressed and frustrated everyone was getting and it was all around awful DMing for newbies. In the end the DM came up with a reason for the dead character to return, got really defensive, and apparently also angry that the girls had to seek outside help to understand D&D because the DM refused to teach them. So yeah, you could see that the DM was not great by any means, but trying to say that at the time would result in a wave of defenders for him.

[@thunderflare59]

bUt ThEy PiCkEd OtIkAtA's CuRsE Why did he leave a main story campaign as an option for beginners?

[@geminusleonem9365]

@@thunderflare59 He wanted the numbers their sessions would bring, so he pushed for a big campaign right of the bat instead of having an introductory small one where he could actually teach the game. Doesn't matter now, and from what I have seen from the new DM's game with Cox and Crendor, he is much more chill, informative, considerate and adaptive.

[@ExeErdna]

​@@geminusleonem9365 I don't like DND when people think suffering is a good idea. It's why I personally dislike the whole "lv 1" concept like nobody is that green they cross a whole world and or have years if not centuries under their belt and be lv 1. Combat should be fun not this slog of everything missing when something is that massive. Basically his stupid ass made a bullet sponge boss people complain about constantly in shooters. If I can basically get breathed on and die for sure that monster is playing by the same rules.

[@Mochachocakon]

I haven't felt such a vehement amount of hatred for a single person in a long time. I hope Arcadum gets help and grows up but I hope he never shows his face publicly again.

[@kitirena_koneko]

Considering the number of women he screwed over, I don't think he'll ever be able to post as "Arcadum" again even if he does genuinely get his shit together.

[@derpythedaedra4194]

that's a level-headed response, respect

[@corinballard2456]

I'm so fucking mad right now. the re-contextualization of the few things we actually saw makes so much sense and makes my stomach churn. sad to see Otikata's Curse fall apart but I'd watch any dnd played by the girls, sticking with Arcadum would absolutely not be safe. glad to see the girls weren't turned off of dnd permanently and happy to wait for a better game to start.

[@ResanChea]

I do kinda agree that Arcadum and his community has always been cult like. They worshiped him before this whenever anyone gave any criticism they'd get shut down. Now that he'd fucked up, they shit on him endlessly and if anyone expressed anything other than extreme hate they'd get shit on too.

[@1lostmuffin515]

Sounds normal for the internet tbf

[@Mohroka]

@@1lostmuffin515 also life in general.

[@dudejoe24]

I mostly seen a balance really but it was mostly arcadum shutting people down because I remember people shitting on his new players when they start mostly the vtubers or streamers with big names like otv

[@Mohroka]

@@dudejoe24 yeah, there have always been, and likely always will be a random nonsensical hate mob.

[@SomeMamaLuigis]

its called a Cult of Personality. Fortunately, he fucked up so bad that it all collapsed despite his attempts to keep it standing.

[@greydragon1849]

I am so happy to hear that the girls are getting back together for D&D again in the meantime I got a lot of Brett's stuff to go through in preparation

[@feline_warrior1067]

Goblins of Io is a good start. Tomato is in that campaign, and I think it's a good starting point because it has a bunch of good dramatic moments sprinkled with gobbo chaos

[@greydragon1849]

@@feline_warrior1067 heard a lot of good about it, and I do love me some gobbo chaos

[@penpenguin7926]

Looking forward to their campaign with Brett. I've been watching his Goblins of IO and I've been enjoying it. He seems like a really good DM Edit: also love Snuffy's take on this situation. She seems to be a real level-headed person

[@OReilly1000]

Who's your favorite goblin? Mine is Mottle.

[@penpenguin7926]

@@OReilly1000 I'm currently in the Cheezle club. Only about halfway thru session 4 atm tho

[@OReilly1000]

@@penpenguin7926 I'm glad you're enjoying it! Cheezle is a great little ball of chaos.

[@colbycoolby1592]

No body can beat my boy the Klernt!

[@bellystraw]

Having a cheat sheet dude sounds fantastic. Like if there were more saints like those who were just there to help my scrubby ass during moments I forget stuff that'd be sweeeet

[@torunsmok5890]

As a cheat sheet dude for some people *in the games I played in*, it can get really old really fast. Be nice to your chest sheet dudes people! It can be a lot

[@FFXfever]

Snuffy is definitely alot more kinder than I would be if I were in her position. It's crazy how fucked up Arcadum was and how much damage he had done. I can still agree to concept of remembering the human, and to never talk about it after this because I'm merely a viewer.

[@MDG-mykys]

tbh, these dramas are reaching more people that they need to be these days.

[@davidwendel4078]

This was a really healing perspective for me to hear

[@DarkestVampire92]

Snuffy deserves my upmost respect for giving an honest take on the situation. It takes a lot of guts and gall these days to go out on the internet and say "I don't know any of these people and i can't say much about the situation, so i dont wanna tweet about it".

[@cytorakdemon]

The age old saying, "I'm not mad, I'm disappointed". Like, he tells them how busy he is and sometimes forgets things. Fine, okay, the DM can't be expected to remember every little detail of the players' characters on top of the story, npcs, enemies, etc, the players should be expected to remember their own characters. Getting pissy because the players took the initiative to get outside help to take some of the stress off him because he wasn't the center of attention? That's inexcusable. Like one of my sticklers about gatekeeping in D&D is "do the newcomers want to learn?" If yes, then that's fantastic, who cares who they learn from, what matters most is they have that drive to learn. I also respect and understand Snuffy's mentality that she doesn't want to kick a man when he's down after already being rightfully dragged through the mud. The guy's homeless, lost his job and favorite hobby, thrown away decades of works, lost the respect of his friends and loved ones, all from his wrong doings being brought to light. Anything more people think he deserves is just people wanting to be cruel because it's now socially acceptable.

[@ExeErdna]

Yeah, I was overall disappointed because I was just randomly on twitter when I saw it go down and went like "welp he fucked up" then went to bed with that Thanos meme in mind. Like he had everything and basically lit on fire because of his own lack of control. He couldn't slow down or stop, this is something I've noticed with some people only "The Wall" will make them stop and reflect on their actions. I really haven't played DND myself yet I been interested for years so I do my own research and how messy his universe was like bruh. Even as a writer I wouldn't have made it this complex without clear pages upon pages of info anybody can look up with just a google search. I always had a feeling Snuffy's good people like after all this he had his punishment, he's been exiled. He may not be national news worthy yet he should be able to grow, learn and be well. It's just like "why" was the fap worth losing a lifetime legacy?

[@TotalXPvideos]

@ExeErdna the same thing I question with cryaotic, was it worth losing EVERYTHING over sexting/touching a virtual boob?

[@KeiosKod]

I’d say whether the issue someone is causing is ongoing or not would determine whether the kind of anger the faceless crowd of the public has towards them should be cold or hot, but the intensity is pretty much a natural result. The guy can’t screw with anyone anymore, so no need to keep raking over the coals, but there’s no reason to treat him gently either. Guy keeps trying to reach out for sympathy, I have no problem with anyone slapping him down. No shame at all.

[@xabbitz6148]

I think it’ll be better for the girls to play with a DM like Brett, Arcadum was a great story teller yeah but he also was not new player friendly at all. Like he runs games with new players like he runs it with vets basically with only minimal help which is not good. The Mistwalker fight was totally not fair considering it was literally only their second fight

[@xabbitz6148]

Someone in the twitch replies even said it that Matthew Mercer himself still helps his CR team with stuff if they don’t understand, yet somehow arcadum is too important for that? Like cmon

[@PentaHousen]

Is It really tho? I still think mistwalker fight was bad rng fiesta more than a monster. People still complain it was hard, but comon lets not use pillow for new players either.

[@xabbitz6148]

@@PentaHousen here’s the thing the boss was strong and you need to understand none of the girls had ever played DnD before and this was their first ever fight. That’s not good they should have had one or two real fights beforehand to understand the combat. Also arcadum not helping them understand how to play doesn’t help either.

[@coreworldbazti1561]

@@PentaHousen maybe not pillow, but at least give them a warm up before you throw them against that. From what I remember, there only 'fight' before then was the semi roleplay fight against the anger zombies in the city of bells. That doesn't teach them how to play, or prepare them for anything like the mistwalker

[@AlexThat200]

It lessens my heart’s pain to know even she doesn’t want “him” to have continued hatred or ill will. Being alone and possibly forgotten is already punishment enough in my eyes. I’m also glad even though she was thinking about giving up DND, she decided to stay to give it another chance thanks to her friends. Wishing her and the rest of the girls a fun campaign.

[@zurt755]

I’m glad to hear she’s willing to give it another try, but I truly do hope she feels empowered to drop it early if it isn’t for her. I was so worried back when the girls were selecting the campaign and she really didn’t seem to want to jump right into the huge world building storyline. It’s okay to want to just poke things with a stick in dnd. It made me happy that she drank the potion, just because she was curious and wanted to mess around. It also made me mad that he then turned that chaos grab into a huge character moment that would tie her into a bunch of other commitments. I could be wrong and while I don’t want to put words in anyone’s mouths. I just always got the impression that Snuffy was trying to dip a toe into the pool and got pulled into a maelstrom.

[@Fafnir_92]

Snuffy adress the situation in great and clear matter. Ty Snuff

[@Bulldogg6404]

As a DM who prospectively wants to show new players what the game is about, I am getting some very, very helpful feedback out of this into how to introduce the game and make sure everyone knows core mechanics. Example sessions, example combats, maybe even a simple group-watchalong of a casual-veteral game session to talk terminology and about what they're doing, why, and how.

[@kitirena_koneko]

Great! As a long-time player, I'm happy to see that even an example as bad as this is helpful, even if only as an example of how not to run an RPG campaign.

[@themocaw]

The first boss battle I run with a new group I spend most of my prep time coming up with "escape plans" in case it goes wrong. The party can lose, they can be discouraged, but they shouldn't die. Enough time for that later.

[@karimohlman52]

I had 5 new players in one go. Did both an example 15 minute session, then did a tutorial island where they couldn't die, and then gave them more resources to look into and pointed them to specific things. They took a little bit to settle in, but seemed to catch on pretty quick that way.

[@Bulldogg6404]

To be clear, I am experienced both as a DM and as a player, so I do have ideas for how to go about it. I'm primarily happy to get Snuffy's feedback, because she is inexperienced and offers the perspective that I'm missing.

[@OzixiThrill]

@@themocaw Personally, I think it entirely depends on the group; Session 0s tend to help with that. If you have veteran players at your new table, throwing them into the deep end where death is a real threat is not an issue; Assuming the table is fine with such a game. If you have any new or fresh players, a session 0.5 to help the group shape up and get them more comfortable with the game is useful as well. So all in all, I'd say that you, as a DM, should talk with your players about the game about to be ran. Also, for me personally, without the risk of massive failure, the achievements the group pulls off are not even remotely as statisfying.

[@InvaderCom]

It's always sad to see someone ruin a good thing like this. I whole-heartedly hope that they can have some great experiences moving forward, and they get to see how amazing D&D can actually be.

[@brokenserenity01]

wow watching this just makes me realise how self absorbed that guy was....not a good dm at all really, dms shouldnt make things all about them...kinda glad they found a better dm and hopefully will get even more into d&d and enjoy things alot more.

[@chenweishen7560]

Honestly he was a good dm and maybe he presented to be self absorbed was to keep the viewers from affecting the players ie backseaters because the only ones that matters are the dm and the players. The problem to me is that he is not professional by thinking he could be a dm in real life as well. Just like an actor or actress who act outside of the set and cause harm to people around him. This is my opinion at least because his contribution to dnd is undeniable

[@razier5299]

@@chenweishen7560 I would say he was a better storyteller not DM.

[@kronksstronkstonks6360]

@@razier5299 If this was said before the levels of delegation and smoke & mirrors came to light, id probably think otherwise, but now it's a full agreement from me. His storytelling and improv were toptier, certainly. But a DM shouldn't be trying to big themselves up to seem more than they are, or take credit from those who help them. And of course, a DM shouldn't be called a DM if they're using the hobby to bring in more targets for their out of game BS. But thats a somewhat unrelated point to make.

[@barnuhbee7]

@@razier5299 this probably has the most credence

[@lethimdohisworkforyou1177]

Guys idk anything about this situation. Like wtf is dnd? Also what happened and why are things happening and who is in this situation?

[@crystalhydra4779]

7:28 Snuffy despite the misery he caused her still shows mercy, Snuffy's a really great person

[@tomraineofmagigor3499]

Another thing with the mist walker fight there was a few of the girls that didn't have the abilities for their level. He played it off as if it's all part of the plan but he changed how characters got their abilities and he didn't own up to it when things went wrong

[@themocaw]

He threw a goddamn Mistwalker at newbs? Hang on. . . Never mind. I thought you said NIGHTwalker.

[@Mitwadus]

@@themocaw SECOND FIGHT THO.

[@ExeErdna]

Techinally it was a TPK since everybody was downed at lease once. Like why in the hell it couldn't have been bandits or more of the "zombies"... Nah we're throwing Bloodborne bosses at them

[@knightghaleon]

Looking forward to you girls getting back into D&D again. As a DM, it’s heartbreaking to hear you needed alcohol in order to deal with the anxiety of playing. So here’s hoping for a better experience and glad to see you aren’t turned off from the game.

[@Verbose_Mode]

I'm just so glad this hasn't turned them off of D&D. D&D should never be this kind of stress and bullshit, and from watching the beginning of their campaign I would be so honored to just have players that were as enthusiastic as these girls are. EDIT: Hearing that they needed to cope and *_DRINK_* before games is... horrifying! As a DM, honestly most of the time I'm the designated therapist, helping people with stuff even outside of the game! If you're the DM and you find out one of your players was that stressed, you make an excuse that there's an emergency and you cancel the game so you can help them or get them help! I think I would _cry_ from happiness if I found out my players went and got a _D&D tutor._ How could you get mad at that? Honestly, I feel like I should trust my instincts better. As soon as he was showing off fanart of himself, there were a few red flags. EDIT EDIT: Did they not have their character sheets? No access to information? What in the nine hells?! This is some bloody 1984 information control shit to force their dependance on him! Holy cow, most DM (including myself) usually get told off for giving _to much_ info for them to go through.

[@Skastrik]

Most of what has come to light from people that were working for or with the guy seems to indicate that he was incredibly disorganized and not sharing vital information in a timely manner unprompted. I'm starting to get the feeling that he was in way over his head, didn't want anyone to help him and possibly get credit for stuff. And he reacted to this stress by yelling at others, blaming them and harrassing people. Instead of just accepting that he needed assistance. Man is an egomaniac through and through.

[@lazyspade1559]

Wat! Holy shit?!

[@noir7774]

I was looking forward for chilled to show up with the vtuber crew. Pretty much all of my favorite streamers would be in one game.

[@aimia100]

wait wait wait hold on. he’s gonna show up with them?? :o is this legit or are you speculating cuz I don’t wanna hike my hopes up here.

[@noir7774]

@@aimia100 during ink and blood episode 5 when Jerry changed reality to go to a party. arcadum asked if he was free Thursday which is when otikatas curse was played if all of this hadn't happened we could have had chilled playing dnd with snuffy's group

[@itmefalco]

@@noir7774 Otikata was friday not thursday

[@fiscarton92]

We talking ChilledChaos?

[@themocaw]

Wait, the Katawa Shoujo guy?

[@poundtownlegend1564]

That's it i'ma say it. That Mistwalker fight was bullshit for level 2 characters.

[@DairunCates]

Especially a level 2 encounter for an ENTERTAINMENT stream that could be ruined instantly if the party TPKs.

[@someguy3263]

Honestly that was some bs fight for brand new players in general.

[@gizunoglunmig0801]

@@someguy3263 also a pretty awfullly made boss fight, seemed like he just makes up rules to make his 'epic' bosses overpowered and unfair instead of having to actually use a simliar and balacned boss where you have to outsmart instead of outstat the players. and yeah like at least wait till level 3 where they have some of their kit.

[@Everiscale]

More I've heard, the more alot of what bothered me becomes clear as deliberate by Arcadum. He wanted people separated, and to be the center of attention. And he always lied about how busy he was to excuse it while other people did the work.

[@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935]

It really sucks that what "he who shall not be named" was like in private made snuffy and other new players get turned off dnd because of his ego, i didn't realise that arcadum didn't even have shit preped for the new races/classes for players to read.

[@thunderflare59]

I did. I checked his World Anvil entries. It's truly pathetic.

[@cdubsb3831]

The Voldemort shit is cringe. It was Arcadum. Arcadum did this and people should know. He's not some monster whose name gives him power. He's an abusive human who did disgusting things and could make reasonable steps to change. Given his "defense" it'd be a long journey but it's still possible.

[@garyfeng4689]

I'm glad Snuffy said the things she said around the 8:00 mark. It really shows her morals in these types of situations. The guy needs mental help, not all the shit that is going on that he rightfully deserves. I don't think he's going to try and seek that help because rumor has it, is that he's trying to get back into the space with a whole PR team. If this is the case, he's showing no remorse to all the people who he psychologically fucked with.

[@yugoxgc]

I mean... its was over & done for me from Momo's Post about her experience. Which shined a very different light on what Momo said on a between Vshojo sessions stream. Still cool to hear Snuffy talk about it. ALSO VERY HAPPY to find out about their new DnD game with different DM

[@bigainzfan6934]

Do remember what stream that was or when it happened? You got me quite curious about that now.

[@yugoxgc]

@@bigainzfan6934 Here you go. kzbin.info/www/bejne/noKrdoFnf8SApZo Over 2h into it Momo opens up about her friendship struggles. If you read her post you'll understand what she was actually dealing with back then

[@bigainzfan6934]

@@yugoxgc Sorry what I meant to ask was about Momos post. Unless you are taking about the one she shared when she and 10+ victims exposed you know who.

[@yugoxgc]

@@bigainzfan6934 oh... idk dude. When I heard there was a Controversy I just googled it & read the post from Momo that was among the results

[@Garl_Vinland]

I like that Snuffy didn’t just take the “fuck that guy, always hated him, ruin his life” route.

[@kitirena_koneko]

She's really a class act, isn't she now? ^_^

[@hollythefool1535]

For what that man has done I personally think that response is fairly warranted considering just how awful the things he did were and remember these were only the individuals that actively spoke out there's even more beyond the talkative ones.

[@abruptdemise2691]

7:29 feels like it brings it all home for me. It feels like a lot of people want to kick the man when he's down, instead of just distancing their stuff from his. Most/all of the people who came forward said they wanted Arcadum to seek the help he needed to turn his life back around. I'm glad Snuffy's not joining in on the dog pile, and hope their new game goes well.

[@venom2019]

I under stand how she feels my heart has no room for hate right now it like full of sadness 70% for the victims 28% for the players and fans 2% for him as he has lost everything and for that i feel a little bad for him.

[@bonzaiiibeansprout7081]

same here, no hate, it's just sad how this happened, but its nice to see that the girls are still into dnd enough that they found another DM. in the meantime I need to mourn the loss of their beautifully thought of characters too... and could have been

[@bungaobungus5599]

@@bonzaiiibeansprout7081 see surefours response, he says why u shouldnt forgive him. He talked about how some of the things the girls said is so vile it violated twitters something.

[@macho02]

@@bungaobungus5599 nobody is talking about forgiveness, his situation is sad and just like snuffy said me and others that share the same idea are not into beating someone that's already dead, im not going to spread anymore hate towards him, instead ill focus my energy in supporting the victims and the people that were just starting DnD

[@kitirena_koneko]

I'm also sympathetic for his victims, and as I've said before, I hope that all of them are able to move past this. I'm not going to join the hate brigade because he's made his own bed and now he's laying in it, and after being driven off social media there's literally nothing I could do to him that hasn't already been done, plus the fact that he never did anything to me means there's no point in going after him myself. If he really is sincere about making himself a decent human being after this, then more power to him, but I doubt he'll ever be able to post anywhere as "Arcadum" after all this drama even if he does turn over a new leaf.

[@bradleycoates6297]

7:28 I LOVE that Snuffy brought this up. I hate that when someone gets caught for something fucked, the majority reaction it to wish all the worlds evils on that person. His insecurity and obsession with his likability manifested in the worst way. The man needed professional help years sooner, clearly saw himself above that, and so he payed the price. He threw away all his relationships (his worst fear), his current DnD sessions and his ability to play for the foreseeable future. Lost his job, kicked out of his home. Complete and utter rock bottom, and people see fit to kick that sort of person down even further. It depends on the sort of person you are, I don't think Arcadum's the type personally, but with his insecurities, self-hate, losing his ability to do the thing he's passionate about, his relationships, I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to end it. I feel as if those people kicking him down would either be dumbfounded, is if they couldn't see such an obvious turn of events, or would relish the fact, and that shit is fucking scary to me. How someone can just flip switch, making memes about "dungeon dad" one day, and wishing for that person to kill themselves the next. I HOPE that Arcadum doesn't do anything drastic, seeks the help he needs and comes back doing the thing he loves. He shouldn't be punished for the rest of his life.

[@DaGrox94]

I agree, very few people are completely beyond redemption. I just hope he does it far away from the friends he hurt. Start anew

[@rodrigozavaleta354]

Dude he has money from subs and not paying rent/workers, he can retire and play dnd. Don't worry too much about him ending it all

[@kitirena_koneko]

On the one hand, I kinda hope that Arcadum does get himself straightened out so that he can come back and make a fresh start, but on the other hand, I'm kinda skeptical based on his half-hearted "apology" where he comes across as much a victim as those he preyed on. I'm not going to sit here and dump dirt on his grave, though; I wasn't involved, so it's really not my place to judge, so I have to sit back and take a "wait and see" attitude about him.

[@bradleycoates6297]

@@rodrigozavaleta354 17.8% The dude was obsessed with people liking him, others perception of him. Now his reputation is ruined and everyone hates him. Everyone has a different level of how much the internet gets to them, but Arcadum has shown that he cares way too much about what others think of him online and is deeply insecure about himself and his likability, this was his worst nightmare. Maybe I've misunderstood but I feel like Arcadum cared more about his relationships and image than money and being able to pay rent.

[@thevicot]

Watching destiny break down all the recorded calls and strippin's revelations on how the girls' accounts left out even more vile things, it paints a pretty clear picture that arcadum wasn't just some awkward guy who went about making connections poorly. Everything was calculated manipulation, dude was a predator

[@dovahkiin5902]

"You wouldn't think he would screw it up when he had so much to lose" sadly it doesn't work that way. People are complicated and not everyone "works properly" dude clearly had problems and his "response" indicated that he doesn't feel like he did anything wrong he is just upset he got caught by his "wife"? (I've seen people say they aren't actually married which makes it weird) I can hope he gets better but I don't expect he will, the best I can hope is his crap being public helps people know what he is up to in the future.

[@ihategoogleplus5308]

15:00 This is a clear example of why he's not a good DM. It doesn't matter how good you are with stories or the mechanics if this is how you behave. First, he makes it clear that he doesn't have time to answer all their questions and walk them through everything. Then he gets pissed that they found someone, who does have team, to help them out. I mean, I think Arcadum genuinely is insecure. He's someone who wants to be revered but has little actual faith in himself and is so sensitive that he baits and fishes for reassurance and compliments. That in and of itself is not malicious behavior, though it is certainly not good. The malicious part is how he demands so much empathy, but reacts so inappropriately when he doesn't get the answer he wants and fails to show any real empathy to others despite how much he expects from others. I think the only way to deal with someone like that is just to cut him off from your empathy early. Just make it clear that you'll hang out with him, but you're not someone to confide in and you're not looking for a friend. He really just needs a good therapist. Maybe if he got one, he could actually be a good person. Personally, though, after hearing the melodramatic way he talks in those leaked calls, I'm surprised anyone would put up with him in the first place. He talks like a teenager who learns how to speak and behave from an anime.

[@marshallsmells]

man when i watch all the D&D episodes i always noticed snuffy just seemed out of it and now i know why feels bad.

[@slowloris3108]

Yeah I should have known something was up in hindsight, because I noticed that she was very quiet from the episodes I watched.

[@abstractjwl806]

I did too, she seemed very disassociated from the group to the point she was kinda boring and I didn't care for Tomoe at all. The last episode where Nyan completely mailed it in was a red flag. At first I thought she didn't care for the three eyed Bull guy but now I'm starting to learn how Arcadum was attacking her on her own discord. Nyan was being a brat and now I understand why.

[@Arzaker]

Linking Nyanners discord on 4 chan.... dude...

[@RaineBlue]

Yeah, I was cringeing as to how childish that was

[@skyrimlover777]

I remember the campaign with melody and how like, the horny bard was the savior at the end. This was arcadum projecting, and I cannot be convinced otherwise.

[@BlackClaws]

Always sad when an otherwise good and fun gaming experience gets wiped out by such issues. Sorry to hear that you all had that experience, and glad to hear you are not giving up on D&D. Lot of good people in the community and great games to be had. I applaud your empathy and sympathy also Snuffy, it is easy to forget in the middle of such things that everyone is human. Not at all excusing his behavior mind you, but that is his cross to bear and hopefully he learns from this and maybe turns things around. He really had an amazing thing there, the literal opportunity of a lifetime and the dream of so many DMs thrown away for hubris and ego.

[@bavettesAstartes]

Oh snuffy... I am so so sorry. As a DM this is fucking heartbreaking.

[@gen4159]

Nobody: BuffPup @ 16:26: "I'm literally gonna shit on the floor" Fucking. Mood.

[@anvec6145]

sounds like they have a good plan and someone who's stepping up. they really deserve a better shot, and I look forward to seeing it when they are ready

[@Raphex5]

If my D&D experiences are anything to go by, you'll make a little gremlin/kobold/joke character, and it'll be the best game you ever have.

[@BlackOwl1997]

Heck Mad Morc was a joke character then he became a legendary protagonist.

[@RiobasTayem]

I said it back then, and I will repeat it now, the Mistwalker fight was bullshit. I loved Arcadums bigger boss fights, they were always a highlight, but the group had literally no combat experience except for a cinematic fight, in which they one shot all the enemies anyway. Sure, he said they did not have to fight that big thing, but as a DM myself, I know, when I put a big evil creature in a dungeon, especially when it is the only one that they could even see at all, the party is going to fight it. I agree the rolls were unlucky too, but they were way in over their heads from the start. They knew nothing about actions, bonus actions and so forth. Literally bad game design. The DM holds all the cards in his hand and he fucked them over be it on purpose or not. Players having no clue what their characters even do was a repeating pattern in most of Arcadums games anyways, which the players are at fault too, but he spent no time explaining the basics to most of his players even in character creation. Learning by doing can be fine and some people prefer that, but it should be a slow build up and not what he did to Otikatas Curse. I could rant on more things that angered me about his DM style, but eh, doesnt matter anymore. His RP and Worldbuilding was high tier though, shame he is such a piece of human garbage.

[@ArmoredAnathema]

He had the Sorcerer of the party take FUCKING WITCHBOLT. That was sabotage.

[@thicclander6785]

@@ArmoredAnathema is whitchbolt really that bad? I always thought it was a decent spell

[@RiobasTayem]

@@thicclander6785 I think its okay. For Warlocks and low level casters its pretty good if you want to conserve spell slots. But at higher levels when you want to cast a lot of different spells or any other spell that requires concentration its not that good anymore. Also your cantrips will outdamage Witchbolt, but that goes for any low level dmg spell if you dont upcast it, although Witchbolt has free damage after the first hit and you can always miss with a fire bolt for example.

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

@@thicclander6785 it is really really bad. The problem is if they move 30ft away from you, the spell ends. It needs way too much set up to equal out to other level 1 spells.

[@thicclander6785]

@@bongosmcdongos4190 oh yeah forgot about the 30ft thing. And I guess it would be better on like a warlock or something

[@codexastral6279]

Ya wanna know what makes this feel so much worse for him. He spent 60k dollars on his Vrchat roleplay Callous Row. At this point I just feel disappointed and sad.

[@AzureIV]

As a prolific DM and player of D&D, I always feel terrible whenever we hear about these kinds of horror stories.

[@Verrisin]

Watching this VOD has really helped me get over "losing" Arcadum. - Well, let's hope for greater tomorrows.

[@maou5508]

I'm glad to hear that they intend to find a new DM. I would stay awake at night in anticipation of the next Otikata session. These girls make go wild in joy.

[@itselguapo]

Edit: the more I watch the more I want to comment, the mistwalker fight went horribly wrong. Like he really didn't need to do the ice shattering and there being a deep lake underneathe. If it's a cave, in the mountains and is there frozen. It should have just been icy terrain him saying it shattered caused a buncha bullshit to happen. Haruka nearly died because the ice shattered, Nyanners nearly died because the DM forgot she was part of a water clan, everything went to shit from there. The monster should have just died if it's weak to ice. Why is it that the monster is susceptible to ice, but somehow is able to jump out of DEEP freezing water, when a chilling blast was enough to cause him to freeze over. I remember Zito's campaign with TFS at the table where a huge armored enemy who was probably a boss enemy came up and they just managed to defeat him in one turn due to teamwork, and Zito was like "That was sick." I think Arcadum didn't want his big "Impossible to defeat" monster to be easily defeated by a huge weakness. Also why didn't a martial check be like, "Oh hey the monster is weak to the cold." It was totally Arcadum's fault that whole fight. I think the weak to the cold thing was good ol, DM fudging where he was like, "Ok well actually he's weak to ice guys!" after everyone is nearly dead. Totally arcadum's fault not your guys fault and I hate that during a stream people were like, "How do you feel about the girls going to someone else to learn the rules." and he was like, "I don't really care about that! As long as they are having fun and learning the rules that's all that matters." then you saying he got mad... ugh...

[@devilsadvocate22289]

Honestly, Tomoe was one of my favs out of the group and hearing that because of what happened, she isn’t really interested in playing D&D too much anymore kinda saddens me and makes me more angry towards Arcadum for it. She was thrown into the wolves and then left to rot essentially and that wasn’t cool. I hope that playing with Brett will change her mind about it… 😢😢😢

[@themini_b]

I've had my own experiences with Arcadum that looking back in retrospect it all kinda makes sense. I was in season 1 of Callous Row and there were many times things would happen that I'd just brush off as "stereotypical big-ish streamer narcissism" but yeah.. seeing others stories really made the puzzle pieces fit together that the guy was mentally unstable and manipulative as fuck.

[@Zale__]

I'm glad she's, as far as I know, still playing DnD. DnD is an amazing thing and I'm just glad that people are able to enjoy it and not have it ruined for them!

[@N0XEL]

Glad all this was revealed, anytime someone expressed interest in dnd or any ttrpg his name would come up as a recommendation for a dm and I always kinda didn't like that. I think it's better for players to find dms that theyre comfortable with or do something like holoen and have a member run the game theirselves.

[@LargeMetallicFellow]

I was hoping to finally hear one of the girls speak up on this matter. Like I get wanting to keep things private and to themselves, but at the same time it really does help clear the air and confirm or denounce any rumors. No matter how much the truth might hurt, it's better to hear than unconfirmed rumors.

[@Invader_Rin13]

26:27 What? I feel like no one was mad about them during the fight. I saw more people question Arcadum and how unbalance that was. If anything I thought people were more supportive to them.

[@RaineBlue]

Yeah he got hella backlash after ep 5 was over. Almost everyone thought it was overtuned (for them). Sure if it was an experienced party the boss wasn’t that tricky when you got all the mechanics. I think the attack roll gaining rage was most detrimental since they didn’t know about attackrolls/saving throws, an experienced party would have picked that clue up right away.

[@Invader_Rin13]

@@RaineBlue Which again surprises me that she thinks that anyone was mad at them. I hope someone at least told her otherwise.

[@cow_tools_]

Well talk like this makes me see how Snuffy is a very level headed kind of person. That's really nice.

[@pierrethebaguette78]

“The higher they are the harder they fall”

[@theprocrastinator6813]

Arcadum be like : no ones allowed to teach you the dnd basics , only i can do that!!

[@dustinrausch5008]

"...but I won't."

[@MDG-mykys]

I like her mentality and view on things.

[@Sleepy12ftPanda]

Video: [ serious talk about abuse and drama ] Thumbnail: *_"Is this a bird?"_*

[@Verrisin]

arcadum comes to call, ignores everyone, "hey, I've read bad stuff about me, tell me I'm great!", "ok, bye" .... whow... that fits everything else so well... 11:00

[@heideknight9122]

I like and respect Snuffy so much more now.

[@KumaChrisVT]

I have been in a streamed game for about 2 years now (though we only have a small following, the KZbin channel has less then 100 subs). When we started streaming the game I was so worried about what the fans would think of my character and what I could do to entertain them, but after 2 years of streaming the game I gotta say this, All that matters is your enjoyment. If you are having fun, the people watching will be having fun, same goes for if your not having fun. People watch D&D because they want to see a bunch of friends enjoying a amazing game together, they aren't looking for the same kind of entertainment and focus that you will see from gaming Videos or Vlogs, Just do whatever your character would do in a given situation and don't worry about how the fans will react. Sadly there are some DMs that only stream their games because they think it will make them famous and boost their Ego like Arcadum, they think they are the next Matt Mercer or some shit and will be able to do what he does and make money doing something they think is easy, and it doesn't work out that way. If a DM keeps saying they are a great DM and bragging about their own skills, jump ship and find a new DM, it is the party that determines whether or not a DM is doing good, whether or not they are having fun, Ego kills D&D. From what I saw of Arcadum's games, his players are there to tell his story, that he planned out ahead of time, and it needs to go as he planned or bad things happen, like with that mist walker fight, he obviously planned for specific things to happen and because those things didn't happen, you all died. I enjoyed the VTuber games, but I never enjoyed Arcadum, you guys made it entertaining but I always got the toxic DM feels from him, and its good to hear I was correct about those feelings, after dealing with so many like him or worse in the past. I'm glad that you aren't letting this bad experience with Arcadum ruin your enjoyment of D&D and your wanting to continue playing with your friends, cause that's what D&D is all about, having fun with your friends.

[@GoonManGuy]

It's incredibly unfortunate that this incident might be the thing that kills DnD for some people. I've seen that sentiment more than once around the flaming remnants of the Verum Discord over this past week and a bit. Despite the fact that Arcadum was my break in to DnD, I can see that Verum was a tiny fraction of what DnD is. There's more DnD out there than a 1,000 Verums or Arcadums could ever provide.

[@Just2Ddude]

Is there a link for this new DM? Id love to chack him out.

[@ResanChea]

kzbin.info I was recently recommended by others as well and watched a few episodes of 'Goblins of IO' campaign so far and it seems really funny. Should definitely check him out.

[@lucaswalker8480]

I think this is his dnd channel kzbin.info

[@Thinkcrown]

Start with Goblins if Io Episode 0. Episode 1 is actually episode 2, and confusing without all the fun funny character moments from session “0”.

[@jiyudanjikiakeheriyanto2097]

Damn this is some good info, thanks man👍

[@Just2Ddude]

@@ResanChea Thank you for the info!

[@dyingontheinside5795]

Glad I never got into the streams super hard. I saw a few episodes but good I don't need to finish them now

[@uhoh1321]

hearing the part about him downplaying the accusations really hurt. Of course I will refrain from making any hard judgements. However, as someone with experience with emotionally manipulative people, the first thing they do is message others and downplay drama. Hearing him do the same makes me worried there really will be no good ending to this thing.

[@supersonicsteaktacular9076]

8:05 God i feel this so much, whenever anybody gets cancelled people always scurry out of the woodwork to get as many disgusting digs at the person as possible. Like regardless of if the person done something despicable or not, what or who exactly are you helping by insulting and wishing death upon that person?? You're not helping the people affected by the aforementioned despicable acts, you're just taking an opportunity to act sadistic when it's socially acceptable.

[@FFXfever]

This also applies to the victims too, many people won't ever tell their stories and out predators because of the amount of backlash they will get. It's so frustrating that whenever there's drama, hate mobs somehow managed to find themselves onto the platform and start shouting at people.

[@jamesprice6015]

I'm mad at Jeremy, but I would never insult him. I wish Giles didn't have to burn down. A great story and the characters are wasted!

[@franksaenz2996]

Kinda sad on this now that i kinda know what was going on, but it might be better this way, do wish Arcadum didnt go down like this tho, i wish all the best dnd experience with the new DM for the girls and far less stress hopefully

[@hpfan1816]

I'm glad she didn't rag on Arcadum. She has my opinions about the assholes who make fun of him, but also is mad for the obvious reasons but also is mad for other reasons.

[@odalchiszaratutu6793]

arcadum had all the signs of one of those sadist DM who likes to get the players in a constant state of stress, giving unfair battles, holding vital infromation and making seems like it's all the players fault, i'm glad he got canceled and all his cult followers now are the most vocal bunch against him

[@uselessprotaganist7444]

Yeah, honestly all the red flags were flying for me when I saw the episode 2 fight and heard all the girls talk about it later like it was all their fault and they should have spent more time in private with him tutoring them.

[@BioroidPilot]

Lord this hits me, like have real bad self confidence and am constant afraid of being alone so I get the reaching out and not being great at handling being alone. but what arcadum did was fucked up. I understand needing people and reaching out, I get saying "things are hurting me and I cant take it alone" But the turning of all problems onto others, the not checking how others are feeling and ESPECIALLY the wtf levels of rapey bs he did was just disgusting.

[@kitirena_koneko]

Snuffy, you no take candle!

[@casualinquisitor5684]

I always looked forward to Arcadums d&d streams the stories were amazing but after this and knowing that the great stories are coming to a sudden end just makes me feel empty just knowing that someone would spend so much time and effort on something so amazing just to throw it all away makes me depressed

[@Verrisin]

7:38 - I love Snuffy! This is exactly how I feel too.

[@Verrisin]

I don't understand how people can be happy about and celebrate anyone's misery. I don't care how horrible that person... - And Arcadum wasn't that _horrible/evil_ - He mostly had mental issues, and was clearly not happy for years, which only makes it worse: He needs healing, not bashing... - But, he lives in society, among humans, and that's what life is like - and what he did? Pretty damn "human like" too, if you ask me... (as in, negative)

[@Maxisamo1]

"Oh guys! 4Chan forsn NOT like me" lmaooooo

[@DeamonPhenix]

Honestly, I don't really watch much live, so I had started watching Otikata's just a few weeks ago and oh boy did that mistwalker fight, and his response to it, sour the idea of the game for me. Hearing it carried over behind the scenes makes it even worse. The fact anyone would blame the players for that clusterfuck of an encounter design is honestly baffling. I hope things turn out better this time and everyone can have fun.

[@getchacrowds6170]

I remember trying to watch the DnD sessions but... Idk. Something about Arcadum never sat right with me. I hate that this happened tbh. I hope Snuffy and the others have fun with future games they may play in and stuff.

[@doonkeythegreatsullivan9459]

I really didn’t want to believe the rumors. I had watched the Trail by fire, Saints if the Streets, Shattered Crows and Galin Gate. Seriously beside Critical Role and sh//t that made me want to do it! For heaven sake I made a few characters already on Dnd beyond but damn… just damn

[@parsus7797]

25:50 that really puts Elis failure with Crowley into perspective

[@FrickleFragginFruckl]

I never knew about Nyanner’s discord thing. That’s fucked. Especially considering she had history getting fucked with really severely by 4chan.

[@Seranuelian]

the heartrate tracker to this is great

[@jonnyrbgomes]

i may not like Snuffy's content but im so much like this 00:40 to 01:40, hopefully she has a great experience in the next DnD