SNW Hemmer & the new PVE META in Star Trek Fleet Command | The Math, the truth, & the battlelogs

[@charlesjohnmcclarrie]

We need a new camping video on level 39. New crews new goals

[@abrahamhorowitz8374]

I ran SNW Pike, SNW Spoke, SNW Hemmer for Jellyfish Brawl, and it was great, because I didn't have to choose between targeting interceptors or miners, as I got the mitigation for both

[@annabelleb2822]

Same for me. This is the best use for Hemmer so far that I have found. The usual system I grind for Interceptors doesn't have traders and on my Valdore La'an gives a better boost to attack stats and gives more damage here.

[@SZB]

Did not know 5 gave rep grinding boosts.. thanks for that!

[@VictorMTaveras]

Now we just need more ways to get Hemmer lol

[@caneyebus]

I'm surprised I got half way to him already. Hope they drop more shards soon.

[@VictorMTaveras]

@@caneyebus SLB in my bracket was pretty rough. I'm only at 22 shards so far lol

[@barkman1739]

@@caneyebus mantis will “soon” be ftp, and Hemmer is in the mantis refinery. Not sure how realistic pulling all his shards is in a reasonable amount of time, but hopefully that can be increased once feedback is provided.

[@robertderamo8943]

@@barkman1739 previous videos showed rev getting great pulls with the resources that came from this battle pass. In my experience I didn’t get any full pulls like he did. But pulls are still better. Got a lot more 5 pulls.

[@xypho6468]

yeah, I did not do too well with him and got only 49/110 shards :(

[@wolfhoundiam8486]

I enjoyed the history, math and future outlook

[@claytonparris432]

I just saw the episode that gives us Hemmer's fate. I am now very sad because there was so much more that I wanted to see from the Character😭

[@alcyone-rising]

I felt the same when I saw that episode. I’ve been sad for weeks. I continue to hold out hope that some how he will be back - some weird twist . It could happen

[@Ross74h]

Interesting to see how the new meta works, not even halfway to unlocking hemmer myself yet. And I avoid using my La’an like the plague as she’s broken and they don’t seem to be able to fix it (ships with her on will go to their original max cargo and stop, they seem to be unable to use any increase she gives)

[@izmazix2148]

Thx for all the testing at all the various levels. I'm gonna reference these a lot! Look forward to some updated plans. I've jumped up instead of camping at 39. As a light spender I feel it's better.

[@stormtrooper1096]

I might be able to unlock this in another year year and a half if I'm lucky and the game is still around

[@RevDeuce]

1. game will still be around 2. you'll get him a lot sooner than that lol

[@stormtrooper1096]

Lol I hope so those epic shard are hard to get

[@ohaidere]

Wow. Scopely stumbled across a good decision to make these officers

[@IceBrain8381]

Great vid, thanks for the explanation

[@pterodactyl2670]

Great video! Thank you for the math on how Hemmer works.

[@RevDeuce]

Glad it was helpful!

[@JimRienheart]

Hemmer's below deck ability would be useful with crews that use the total health for their abilities.

[@derpizzadieb]

that would require him to outperform adding a since officers health stat

[@travisjohnson622]

5/11

[@ceo62]

ty for breaking it down

[@jameskinslow5298]

Love the longer videos.. sometimes you need to go too fast. Thanks again for your videos they have been very helpful

[@izmazix2148]

Appreciate the graphic, looks good and easier for me to remember

[@OptionaLID]

I think the level of SNW Pike is a bit understated, you did mention it but people don't really understand what he's doing. This crew is immediately relevant for any mixed damage hostile, including battleships, actian hostiles and eclipse hostiles. There is plenty of value in Hemmer for people in the 30s. Actian hostiles specifically have shields so massive that higher level Pike will make a huge difference.

[@soundtecked]

Yes the new Pike crew is actually better on borg to and swarms

[@HugoBolzer]

Good Job, rev 👍

[@RevDeuce]

Thanks 👍

[@chrisjones4571]

Full synergy hemmer with Cerritos support allows you punch way way higher on heavy traders.

[@minghlu]

I found Hemmer is better for grinding Exchange Hostiles. I think they have closely weighted kinetic and energy weapons and if you use PMC or PMT, you will be vulnerable to one of them. Hemmer applies extra mitigation to both.

[@jackalcrimson]

I went for him in the SLB, I knew I wasn't going to win but I figured I could get myself closer to him, I came in fourth so I'm up to 80 shards so I'm at least in range now. Just hoping that we get more event stores with him in it, or some other way to source him that I can utilize soon.

[@michaelwalter3431]

You can get him in the Mantis Refinery. My and a member of my alliance had a full-unlock lucky pick on him

[@jackalcrimson]

Sure if you bought the mantis I did not and will not, so as it stands I still can’t source him for free.

[@michaelwalter3431]

@@jackalcrimson but they said that there will be a f2p-path for it. so there will be a sourcing for you

[@bryanjorgenson9450]

dude ....thanks for for helping this crayon eating Devildog understand things!!

[@RevDeuce]

Glad to help

[@im1066]

When SNW came out, I think a lot of people did a diservice to the player base by suggesting they were for 50 plus hostile. A lot of folks in my alliance at my level are playing catchup trying to just unlock spike. As a level 40, I use them more than PMC even if they're not necessarily better. I can stack the appropriate stat below decks to get what I need.

[@RevDeuce]

Why would you do that? For regular hostile grinding that's only hurting your game play. The reason that was suggested is because thats what they're designed for. Can be used in other applications, but for example, if you choose to grind traders with SNW vs PMC you're only slowing your progression down.

[@mikedeni4512]

Ive been asking my wife for a Hemmer for months

[@brandonthebuildertx]

Maybe I'll have him by the time I'm grinding in a Sanctus.

[@shaunwilbert5533]

Rev, I use SNW Pike SNW Spock Tlaan as my primary interceptor crew as a 27 grinding mid 30s (or 28 swarms). I have a feeling in these lower levels SNW Pike Hemmer Chen will probably rock through the 30s. BTW, 2nd on Hemmer SLB and every other shard possible, I still ended up 2 short.... Huh? We need more than Mantis sourcing.

[@RevDeuce]

Full synergy is better than synergy plus Chen

[@nickm9102]

On my Ops 20 account SPike is my primary crew typically I have Spock and Uhura as my best warship is a max Kehra (common 3* interceptor) but I have chosen to camp her to build up 3* and Officers. I already have 3NS to overnight 25k 3* nodes and to collect C lat to pad ALB. (Using Arrok, not a complete jerk) and currently hitting 32 battleships reliably for rep daily.

[@nickm9102]

Found out just how good SNW crew can be low level. On a max jellyfish with SPike, Spock, Uhura. After about 2 hours of hitting 21, 23, and 25 interceptors in mycelium space. I went back for repairs under 5 minutes for about 80 hits mainly 23, and 25. At times I don't feel I need kelvin Pike on the account. But we will see when I get the last 14 shards of Pike if I stick with the original or go to Strange New Worlds in crewing...pun intended.

[@shaunwilbert5533]

@@RevDeuce I don't have the extensive math charts that you do. I can only tell you what I've experienced in terms of kills per hull with same lower decks load out in the same ship.

[@herzrein]

@@RevDeuce Full synergy is only better if the shield holds. Adding Chen might be useful to prevent the shield from depleting.

[@Billius58]

I use him below deck on mantis for grinding

[@Darthpickleric]

Ty rev I'm level 34 just waiting fornthe f2p path for the new ship

[@mistakensilence]

Hey, great video and thanks for the shoutout!!

[@RevDeuce]

No problem 👍Thanks for your help!

[@Bleachguy2023]

he can be used on surveys like heavys in capitol systems

[@JeffSchmidtJRS]

Want him,…can’t afford the $. Thanks for the video!

[@RevDeuce]

No worries, he already has permanent sourcing in the Mantis refinery (I know, I know). That f2p path should get announced soon.

[@JeffSchmidtJRS]

@@RevDeuce Just moved to level 30 so these things are a long, long way off. Having fun though.

[@RevDeuce]

At that level it's all about focusing on getting Pike Moreau Chen!

[@JeffSchmidtJRS]

@@RevDeuce Yupper. That’s what I’m doing. And, like I said, fun is being had.

[@shawnnoyes2776]

Rev - what about some shorter videos breaking down the math of the various named crews - like Khitomer's Revenge, or a few variations of the all Cadet crew - where they are most useful, etc. I don't know, just a thought... -Shawn

[@DrewskiTheRed]

We need to see Deep Space

[@markoconnor7163]

Rev don't lie.. you love math! :D

[@alpreston1677]

Thank you

[@spartacusthebringerofrain3007]

The Mayflower is a toy ship with weapons of peace

[@captainjadi8924]

Love the math Rev, wouldn’t understand people that don’t 🤔

[@kriswatson3912]

you should see if you can use him for lvl 49 traders in sol for heavy traders cause pmt has a terrible time with them. also remember all the mixed damage hostiles are better with spike crews because he works on both damage types. spike on borg for example is a huge increase.

[@RevDeuce]

If yuo're wanting to hit heavies, check out my video "punching up" Bev(C)-Mudd-Khan

[@kriswatson3912]

@@RevDeuce It actually popped up as suggested video after this one. I was just wondering if Hemmar was an alternative now because the franklin hunts better with spike than pmt as long as i can keep shields up. Love your videos. I would not be nearly as far in the game if it weren't for you content creators like this but especially you rev.

[@Blakethehusker]

What I am seeing is that the new meta is going to be more ship type specific. PMC allows you to go out and clear a system below a certain power level. The new Pike combo's can clear a higher system of one type of ship. such as swarm space taking pike La'an Spock.

[@spacequack5470]

Well obviously, all it takes is being able to read

[@jonathanscheib6480]

True which is why im confused by rev deuce usinng hemmer for non survey ships. You only use hemmer vs survey ships period.

[@Blakethehusker]

@@jonathanscheib6480 what am looking at doing is using hemmer and the officer that covers the war ship type of whatever sector I am in. So Pike, hemmer and maybe Spock for those interceptor and survey systems.

[@CDRNFreeRunner]

I don't have Hemmer yet, but versus lv49 traders (Kronos, Sol, Romulus), would PMC still be better or a crew with Hemmer (using a jellyfish)?

[@RevDeuce]

PMC

[@geeemm135]

i wish you would have put in the level 49 traders in the capitals (including the heavy traders) in your battlelog overview

[@Elinaeri]

Yeah, that was the only one I was looking for. I heard from our people that they were not happy with its performance against heavies but it would have been nice to see the numbers by Rev.

[@wilgriffin3500]

He's now the third officer that I've come across that seems to be a lower that officer. Are you saying that they are a bridge officer with or that abilities? Or can I use them in lower decks and they still have their abilities

[@WHGrell]

Math is COOL!!!

[@rickmarr8784]

I wanted to get Hemmer but didn't have enough materials. This arc scopely has been a bit stingy, I didn't unlock any of the rare officers. I got lucky and unlock Strike team La'an or at least I think I was, now I'm starting to think most players were saving up to unlock Hemmer.

[@CoreyRaines]

I'm here because you do the math so i don't have to

[@n.s.7033]

thank you for testing. how are there 2 "Old Mudd" on the Newton ?

[@RevDeuce]

Just a display issue on SC with them having the same name.

[@johnnyd.72]

All these comparison screens coming from different logs for each battle or are they completely simulated by the tool?

[@RevDeuce]

they were all logs from in game that we imported into the tool

[@brandonwilliams7112]

My head hurts from all that math....

[@nwchun]

Possible to try out pike moreau and snw pike? Probably need a tier 4 and above snw pike to obtain anything sensible.

[@amateurhour9976]

I see value for this in exchange space as a secondary or tertiary grinding crew to PMC and Bev+TNG crews

[@derpizzadieb]

Picard Bev Worf exists and does okay

[@ericforrester5901]

does hemmer still increase actian venom or is that gone with update

[@k.gall7591]

I wonder if they'll release a triple ability officer 🤔

[@dsscheibe1]

I don't have Hemmer yet, 38 ops

[@barkman1739]

Lots of comments (100 so far), so I may have missed it, but around 6:30 doesn’t Chen ONLY eliminate 96% of energy damage? Are there perhaps traders with kinetic weapons (Sol/Romulus/Kronos for example), where Hemmer would outperform pmc and pmt?

[@RevDeuce]

SO, hemmer alone is only going to get you to max mitigation, so you're going to need something alongside Hemmer to make that a good run.

[@barkman1739]

@@RevDeuce meant Spike/Synergy/Hemmer

[@xypho6468]

Anyone noticed how Hemmer looks a lot like Mantis in the MCU??? And his initial design was to be a Mantis expert?? Coincidence???

[@Senses0685]

Where the logs on heavy capital traders? We need the juice rev

[@jayspeed2068]

What were the officer ranks on that Newton Spike, Ortega, Hemmer?

[@RevDeuce]

1 & 2, though, the only officer that really matters in the SNW crew tier was is Pike. The others all can be pretty effective/max your mit at tier 1. (Gets easier higher, obviously)

[@chrisgray8170]

what program on the video lets you compare the different crews graphically as on the video?

[@RevDeuce]

spocks.club

[@AndrewEddie]

After a bit of testing in Ty'Gokor, PMC is still the most efficient for me (Ops 41) for rep grinding, concentrating on Romulan points. Following are test results of 1 hull of my T7, lvl 35 Ent. Pike, Chen, 5: 79K total rep @ 16K per minute. 5, Khan, Gorkon: 72K total rep @ 18K per minute. Spike, SNW Spock, 5: 52K total rep @ 18K per minute PMC: 839K total rep @ 19K per minute (45 min run in total) The main difference here is PMC can easily hit 39's and 40's whereas the other crews were really limited to 38's. All things being equal, PMC is still the most time and cost effective rep grinding crew, at least until I get Hemmer (which, free-to-play, will be a while).

[@chriswaddle7450]

Math is great

[@fuileadan]

I didnt hear you talk about it, but the SNW Pike synergy does much better than PMT on swarm

[@RevDeuce]

Well this video is about hemmer, so lol

[@j.s8621]

What tier does moreau need to be for max mitigation? 3?

[@johnd5952]

Yes, 3.

[@joshualynn9913]

Can u or someone explain single line vs double line synergy?

[@scottscheibe5517]

Pike, Moreau, T'Lann works better than Pike, Moreau, Chen, pmt kills at least 20 more swarm than pmc. I can finish all my swarm daily in one run on 32 swarm. With the enterprise crew I was killing 23, pmt near 60 with only half my hull dammaged on max Franklin, going home full cargo. We stopped people hitting Franklin's on our server by sending our biggest wars ship to sit on the edge and killing anyone going after player ships. They soon stopped trying

[@RevDeuce]

In what way?

[@vassagood]

I love nerd stats.

[@johncurran8601]

Can you please do this math on a lvl 14 jellyfish?

[@indyguy2]

I wish there was not music in the background as I listen.

[@duaneg3242]

another officer that we will have ro grind for a year to get...

[@RevDeuce]

The way the Mantis refinery pays out (granted, people have to get mantis) it won't take long!

[@janusgeminus21]

Why not run/test SNW Pike, Hemmer, Chen?

[@RevDeuce]

Because it's not as effective. Already have tested it.

[@henryslack6541]

How does this tier 1 epic officer have 4646 strength?

[@RevDeuce]

Lots of officer research

[@MC-en9rg]

STFC is getting to the point where you need to be Will Hunting or Prof John Nash to do the math just to play the game.

[@derpizzadieb]

I guess if counting kills and comparing loot gained is too hard for you that might seem true for you^^

[@MC-en9rg]

@@derpizzadiebI was joking.........insults not needed on this channel.

[@duaneg3242]

why not use snw pike, hemmer, chen?

[@RevDeuce]

Less effective. Also would kill the point of it being a secondary crew

[@WouterVerbruggen]

I suggest rethinking the colour scheme and font in those graphics, theyre are not very good for readebility

[@thomasgoad83]

I love math..

[@nunyabidness3075]

Yeah, this game, which simulates you having a fleet of starships and a Star base run by an AI, constantly forces you to grab a calculator and do algebra to figure out what’s going on. Anyways, didn’t get this guy. Thought he was a PvP guy. Oh well.

[@davidschultz2592]

Good info, but please stop talking DOWN about the math. This information is critical to understanding the game and how to play well. I appreciate this video (and would like to see more like it)!

[@RevDeuce]

While I'm with you, MOST aren't, which is why I do that. :)

[@robertlee5456]

It's a sad reflection of the state of our society, when junior high level math makes people mentally eject.

[@andrewmosiman7861]

I prefer it when you math…

[@elvishards8161]

I love math ha ha

[@da9526]

Can not read red writing

[@24Redneck48]

Its a crying ass shame they give us cartoon officers and last months officers insisted of una or ortegas shards. Because alot of us are 2 shards from una. And a handful from Ortega. Complete bull. And yes we have completed all events to get the said shards. But scopely wants us to pay for them. And then give us lower decks and SNW shards. BUT NOT STRIKE TEAM SHARDS.

[@RevDeuce]

Well, Lower Decks Season 3 just started this week, hence the gift chest for it.

[@kristiankoch7625]

@ claw Argeed, i think this arc is the worst so far, about 95% monetizend, as it seems not even a single rare officer available for F2P or 20€ BP-buyers, a half ship, that will be useless for about i guess half a year (release of the grind path in 2-4 months + the actual grind) , SNW officer sourcing only for mantis buyers, two single seperate officer autions - usually we have had three, all of them for a single officer, increasing the leaderboard-pressure this time to an extreme. For me IMHO not even the event store can save this arc.

[@DavidwaiteRealtor]

Where is the video beating up on Scopely for taking an officer that was in game and established abilities and changing him? This new version is as useless as tits in a frog. The old version had far more value now it’s shit. Better yet let’s do a video and take this new established precedent and get them to change the SNW crew so that it is not ship dependent? Either way this was a horrible move. And yes he is useless in this new format, you don’t need a officer to kill traders PMC works just fine and better for that.

[@jayspeed2068]

Chen doesn't work on hostiles 52 and higher so Hemmer is not useless.

[@DavidwaiteRealtor]

@@jayspeed2068 I don’t need him to kill lvl 54 traders, so yeah he is useless.

[@jayspeed2068]

This video suggests you can kill more high level traders with him than without hence not useless. I do agree though it's not a good look to change officer abilities after they release.

[@bobbyduke777]

let me tell you a little something about this troll based game. if you play right and work hard spend time taking territory, your north star miner can carry about 8,000 rss. so you can not mine with it. you envoys carry a nice amount but, when you are lvl 22n a lvl 13 jelly can come out to your territory and farm all your miners, SO WHY TAKE THE TIME AND TROUBLE TO TAKE TERRITORY, THE GAME IS MADE FOR THE TROLL. WHAT KIND OF ASSHOLES SET A GAME UP LIKE THIS. AND THE JELLY CAN TAKE 25000 AWAY. BUT THE NORTH STAR WITH IT'S 2 FREIGHT TANKS CAN ONLY TAKE 8000. SO THEY HAVE DESIGNED THE GAME FOR THE TROLL BAG OF ASSHOLES. HOW DOES A JELLY CARRY 25000 IN RSS? AND A LVL 13 CAN MAKE IT OUT TO TERRITORY IN A JELLY WHEN YOUR ENVOYS HAVE TO BE LEVELED UP OR HAVE CADET SCOTTY. THE DEV'S ARE CREEPS

[@morrismoe]

What about 49 surveys? With PMC on my 5.5m augur i can't kill one of 49.... Will Hemmer made a difference???