SNW48- Amazing homemade router table fence works like the Incra LS! BUILD IT!

[@MichaelStephenson51]

It is so funny to see this old video of "Stumpy". He has really mastered the craft of video over the years.

[@fdort3971]

Moustache Mike has the perfect voice for audio! Very smooth, well spoken and he raises and lowers his pitch at the right time. He reminds me of when I was a kid I would read along to a 45lp...yes I'm old...lol

[@donjohnson24]

Stumpy - I understand that your videos now have a different slant - mainly just explaining the features of your new designs or modifications - but I do miss the pleasure of viewing their actual construction. I always learned something new as I watched you making a jig or tool, either shortcuts or different ways of doing things. Its not that I feel that your plans are expensive - I have purchased some and been pleased with them - but it was always a treat to watch you working even if I never intended to make the actual item. Having said that, I do still look forward to your productions, as I love your sense of humour and the interaction between yourself and MM.

[@KSFWG]

Stumpy Nubs I agree with Don Johnson. Also, I think it's about time that Mustache Mike gets a cold one because he's earned it too! Thanks for the videos!

[@StumpyNubs]

We actually make several types of videos. The SNW videos are about interesting jigs and ideas. They don't show the build because the first jig is always a prototype. I have to build, and rebuild, and change things over several weeks sometimes. It's just not practical to film it. BUT, Our Weekend Project videos show the complete, step by step build. Out Old Timey Workshop videos also show the woodworking steps and techniques. We are producing more of those too,

[@fdort3971]

I agree! As a beginner I need the visual to learn...plus when a machine is being run I listen carefully to the sound produced so I have a better idea of what mine should sound like. If the sound is off I check and change what I'm doing.

[@Shopbuilt]

Really good idea with the threaded rod incra adjustment!

[@StumpyNubs]

Thanks!

[@krabenaldt7605]

Some have used the idea of threaded rod on a table saw fence too.

[@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549]

Stunpy you just get better and better! Glad to see Mike in the videos!

[@hazembata]

Very nice Mr. Stumpy. Humor and ingenuity...a double threat guy.

[@eyeTelevision]

Just bought the plans for this.. could have just copied the design but for $8 you can't go wrong. Good job guys!

[@ecaff9515]

Excellent. I will order plans soon as I'm finished building your router lift. Thank you so much.

[@vancecohick8245]

Thanks for the video! Happy to hear about old timey woodworking.

[@jimcoogan1529]

Now that is the kind of fence I have been looking for. Thanks.

[@StumpyNubs]

Glad to help, Jim!

[@josephsmarz2078]

Any chance do you know if this will work with the Rockler router table, before I purchase the plans.

[@CharlesSmith-io9fp]

That's just a Tad large for my Ryobi RT101 router table. It's been sitting in a shed for at least 14 years, needed a good cleaning. My only problem is the metal back fence. It's warped, and I don't think it will straighten without breaking. I'm looking at your and others for some ideas. Great job.

[@bellevuesnekkeri]

Very nice one Stumpy. And made from easily obtainable parts. Thumbs up!

[@latenightwoodworker3283]

I have a collection of your plans and have them laminated in a binder. K maybe not all pages are laminated but I am excited to get started. Fairly new to your channel. I had to re- do my woodworking shop since I moved and these plans are perfect. Thanks for sharing your inventions.

[@sergeantcrow]

The teeth system is a fantastic idea... Beautifuly designed fence !

[@MichaelHonsinger]

Excellent video and humor is always welcome! I like your fence design; well done!

[@krabenaldt7605]

Humor?

[@ryanhirschey]

Big fan of your website, book and KZbin channel. I built the router lift, sliding router table and fence using the plans in your terrific book. I was wondering if you have detailed instructions or video on how to use the sliding table and auxiliary fence to make precise box joints, dovetails etc. I see a brief mention in this video but a step-by-step walkthrough would be greatly appreciated!! Is the subscription still in the works? Would love to hear more about that as well. Thanks.

[@keirfarnum6811]

Cool design!

[@drab31s]

I am noticing that my front carriage panel does not meet perfectly square with the base panel. Both pieces of plywood are flat but there is some wiggle in the drawer slide. Am I missing something?

[@eddiedoors1]

Have you done an adjustable fence for table saw similar to Incra?

[@freqflyer2010]

What length of drawer silde do you use? I'm getting ready to order the slides for your router lift and I don't want to have to pay shipping twice and I haven't bought these plans yet but I will be buying them soon.

[@StumpyNubs]

10-inch

[@steverochon1620]

Don't take this wrong...I mean it as a compliment. Your videos have a Red Green feel to them.

[@carter83419]

Great work guys!

[@StumpyNubs]

Thanks Carter!

[@junado]

Won't using the micro adjust feature change the alignment and move your "zero" value by up to half the pitch of the threads (in this case, 1/32") ?

[@StumpyNubs]

No. The micro adjust is just a way to move the fence slowly, and in finer increments than 1/16th. As you micro adjust, the cursor also moves on the scale. It's no different that moving the fence by hand, just a lot finer.

[@n8guy]

Junado, yes, I believe you are correct. If you move the micro adjust, you lose your "zero". At least in one sense. The ruler is still there as your ultimate unwavering reference, but to return back to the exact zero of your pre-adjusted scale, you would have to back out the steps you took to get there (or advance the micro adjustment up to the nearest 16th and move back a tooth in your macro adjustment). For example, if you made a cut, micro adjusted "up" a 32nd, and made another cut, you would have to micro adjust "back" that 32nd to get back to your original position.

[@junado]

Stumpy Nubs as you turn tge threaded rod, you move your "fixed" reference teeths and therefore offset the whole setup. This would work if all your measurements are relative in between cuts, but not for repeated cuts when moving the fence. The visual scale will still work, but you explain the limitations of such a scale in your video, yet by making the thread "micro-adjustable", you defeat the main purpose of having meshing teeths (very accurate and repeatable fence moves).

[@TimRoyalPastortim]

Ingenious design... really love it!!

[@i679n5]

What do you think about doing something similar on a job site saw to replace the original saw fence?

[@donh8791]

I have been trying for the last couple of months to build this project. I have followed the downloadable instructions to the letter, including making the corrections shown on the website. The lines were laid out with a 0.5mm pencil and an Incra rule to a tolerance of no more than 1/64". The lines were split when cutting out the parts. The threaded rod simply spins in place when turned, even though it is meshed with the shorter piece of rod to the point that a 0.0015" feeler gauge cannot fit into the threads. What am I doing wrong?

[@latenightwoodworker3283]

I had the same issue. I have completed several of Stumpy Nubs jigs. I redid this one like 5 times and still cant get it to work smoothly.

[@TheHandystanley]

So a couple of questions on this video: 1) Can the fence be split for edge joining boards or to allow for wide router bits? 2) Is that a woodworking movie projector behind you?

[@StumpyNubs]

Yes, the fence slides on two pieces of t-track so the opening can be adjusted. And that's a band saw in the background. I keep it around with a narrow blade because I hate changing blades on the big one.

[@MakeSomething]

Incra must love you! Also, go Browns!

[@StumpyNubs]

They should love me, I have a lot of their products! Go Lions!

[@synapse131]

Stumpy Nubs Go Pittsville Pikers!

[@BigWillieFPV]

Can you get plans in metric?

[@eddiedoors1]

which plan name is this one?

[@richardjones7327]

Hello Stumpy, Can I get the over all demensions for the table top on this router table? I want to know so that I can build a flip table (this might) Thanks for your time

[@galenfitzpatrick1142]

18 months after building, I find the drawer slide I used is not giving positive support. When moving a piece of stock along the fence, the fence lifts slightly at the drawer slide and moves out of position. Maybe I need a better drawer slide.

[@StumpyNubs]

I would think the lock-down would eliminate movement in the slide. Of course the lock is on the other side of the carriage. Maybe the answer is to add a second t-track and lock on the other end by the drawer slide? I haven't worked with this fence in a long time. I may think of a new version down the road. One thing I think could be improved is the dust collection by adding a ramp on the edge of the bit of plywood at the bottom of the dust port, behind the split fences. That edge can accumulate dust. What do you think?

[@galenfitzpatrick1142]

@@StumpyNubs a second T-track was my thought as well, I figured I would center the drawer slide and put a t-track on either side. I can't speak much to the dust collection, I'm still sorting out my system and that end of the bench is not currently receiving the best suction.

[@xeren45]

@@galenfitzpatrick1142 i know this is 3 years later, but i recently bought the plans and had the same thought. I'll be skipping the drawer slide and T-track and trying 2 miter tracks, and a couple Bow AnchorPros to lock the upper half of the carriage with 2 knobs, then loosening to adjust

[@walterrider9600]

thank you

[@richardlong7689]

Hello Stumpy About your homemade router table fence: Would it be a disadvantage or advantage to use 3/8-24 all-thread ?? I bought your plans and I'm looking to foreword to getting started soon

[@kalebyarrow4511]

Really good design, by far the best I've seen. I like the 'zero' feature to the router bit cutter. I have one question though, most fences only have the table top then another piece of timber which the fence is secured to, yours has three pieces. What is the purpose of the middle piece? Can all features (measuring/micro adjustment) still be incorporated into just the top piece?

[@latenightwoodworker3283]

Have you made this fence yet?

[@latenightwoodworker3283]

I really want this fence. I have tried to build it 5 times and I really dont want to spend any more money on trying to build it. Is it possible to buy one from you. I bought your book and plans thinking I missed something. Your book is awesome. Already build the router table and lift. But in my frustrations I will have to move on to the table saw fence and maybe try again later. I am having the same issue as another fan of yours with the rod just spinning in the middle. I dont mind buying this router table fence directly from you.

[@latenightwoodworker3283]

Well I really should start on your super awesome table saw sleds and attachments first but my original ridgid fence sucks. Yours looks like it will work much better.

[@edwinfriedl2446]

I built the fence and like it. But I also had a problem with the micro adjust. The threaded rod is unsupported except at the ends. It appears the rod can deflect near the center, ruining the action.

[@michaelfisher948]

You guys are cool, I was looking to see if you ever made a dado jig, I can't find it if you did. I need to build a simple one so I can start on my sliding router table, I have the plans but doing the dado cuts is something I have not done before. Keep up the good work :-)

[@StumpyNubs]

We haven't. But there are a lot of ideas for them on the internet. You shouldn't need plans. Really, if I'm cutting dados with a hand held router I just use a clamp on straight edge to run the router against. If you're not used to it, you may want to cut them in more than one pass, about 1/8" deep, then another 1/8" and so on. It is easy to lose control and mess up a dado with a powerful router.

[@michaelfisher948]

I have the Dewalt 618 and I saw some simple jigs that require two passes plus I have some wood to practice on :-) Thanks

[@jrturnerinsc]

Are all of your videos ads for plans? I can't seem to find a full build on anything you do. I don't mean to be so negative but other KZbin woodworkers are actually are building and showing what they build from start to finish.

[@StumpyNubs]

We actually make several types of videos. The SNW videos are about interesting jigs and ideas. They don't show the build because the first jig is always a prototype. I have to build, and rebuild, and change things over several weeks sometimes. It's just not practical to film it. BUT, Our Weekend Project videos show the complete, step by step build. Our Old Timey Workshop videos also show the woodworking steps and techniques. Mustache Mike's Corner is about scroll saw woodworking. We also produce video tips and tool reviews. And I write blogs on all sorts of subjects.

[@jrturnerinsc]

Stumpy Nubs Thanks for the replay. Don't get me wrong I think you and your Dad produce videos that are very good and your jigs are very ingenious, I would, however, just like to see a start to finish and use video on a jig from time to time that would not jeopardize your market for selling the plans.

[@jshouses]

Great hat!

[@n8guy]

Super cool! Gonna have to build me one a' them.

[@harley75us]

I've watched this a few times to see if I missed it. You say the threaded rod will have positive stops every 1/16 of an inch. Isn't that kinda of sloppy for tolerance's when you said the incra has positive stops every 1/32 of an inch. Isn't a 32nd better than a 1/16th. I realize that the cost factor of buying an Incra system vs a shop built might be worth the tolerance loss for some people but not me. So, please tell me what I missed. Thanks, Marty

[@dtfcd]

The fact that you can turn the longer mated threaded rod means that you have infinite adjustment. If you were to put a radius degree gauge on the end if the turntable thread, you would effectively and accurately be able to turn the thread half a turn to offset the main body by a 32nd of an inch. If you turned a quarter turn, you would effectively offset by a 64th of an inch (all this... but your primary increments remain at 16th of an inch if you don't turn the main rod). I have a friend who is blind and has used threaded rod in this fashion for years as his primary measuring device in his wood working. His work has always been very impressive... far better than your average sighted craftsman. He had done allot of commissioned work actually. I've adopted many of his methods over the years. He adopted them out of necessity... I've adopted them because they show themselves to be more accurate and efficient (in many cases).

[@StumpyNubs]

My Incra table saw fence has 1/32 threads. I find it to be too fine and it often causes binding when I try to lock it down. Besides, I know of no woodworker who works in 1/32 increments. 1/16 is the finest I ever use.

[@johncware66]

I just add that repeatability is really the important feature here and it does look into the positions that it supports

[@อิทธิเดชสุนทรพะลิน]

Good

[@honoriosergio5454]

Nice job!

[@plemieux7237]

Hey Stumpy, are you related to Hank Campbell, the county agent on Green Acres?????? You sure sound a lot like him.

[@nathandodds5647]

Really wanna make that, i might buy the plans...also why does the 'tashe never get a cold one!?!?!?

[@StumpyNubs]

The fizz tickles his mustache.

[@nathandodds5647]

Hmmm...makes sense.

[@Scoobydcs]

Iv just discovered your channel and its fantastic. Although it feels slightly like cheating i intend to buy some of your plans and modify them to my needs. Do you do bulk discount lol

[@Polyhive]

It looks great but like most of the rest of the world (big market out there) I'm metric. Some of your competition have seen the light! Hint.....

[@Akula1963]

Nice and good ideas but....................why not sand the edge of the drawers and the holes you've cut? And eh.......GO METRIC ;-)

[@RubinGnoni]

I'm a woodwork enthusiast and I must say that project like this one scares me. I don't think wood working should look so complicated. How can a guy with the basic tools in his garage will be able to build something like this? Maybe it's time to change hobby.

[@StumpyNubs]

It only took a table saw and a router table. You can even get by without the router table as long as you have a dado set for the saw. I think the problem is often that projects LOOK more difficult than they truly are.

[@ryanhirschey]

I’m completely new to woodworking and have been able to build Stumpy’s router lift, table and fence. He breaks the steps down really well. If you take your time to be precise, they are very doable. And his designs are ridiculously useful.

[@DumbledoreMcCracken]

Per se is Latin

[@normancarnahan4893]

I just purchased and downloaded the plans for the fence. I don't have a dog or cat. So Step 1 is a bit gross!

[@jeffb957]

Every time you say "cut list" what I hear is "cutlass " and there's a disorienting moment when I wonder how you can include an Oldsmobile with a $10 set of plans. Perhaps I should be more conscientious about putting in earplugs before spinning up the noisy tools in the future. =))

[@symonf1966]

sssssssssssweet

[@StumpyNubs]

tttttttttttttttttttttttthanks!

[@sitgesvillaapartmentneilsc7924]

the problem i find with these iis its always an advert for selling their plans, they dont as a lot of tubers do actually produce anything , they explain and then point you to plans for sale on their own website. A lot of tubers put a lot of effort into producing their videos and explaining the item and providing a full build video all for free. Here no. More a comedic pair taking a lot of views as they use snazzy titles to draw viewers to an advertisement. That sucks on the real makers. I know their items are good but even so, make something guys and show us you actually doing it.

[@nationsnumber1chump]

I bet you'd get more views if you didn't talk so much

[@StumpyNubs]

Kinda hard to explain a complex jig without talking. Besides, our videos are our videos. Why should every woodworking video be the same old camera pointed at a table saw while something is built?

[@n8guy]

Stumpy Nubs Agreed! I love your videos. Thanks for keeping things interesting and for putting in all the work you do for writing the script, doing multiple takes (I'm sure), etc. Love it!

[@rc3d490]

You talk so much, and don't show anything

[@อิทธิเดชสุนทรพะลิน]

Good

[@StumpyNubs]

Thanks!