SNW50- Homemade TWO STAGE drum sander with Sand Flea and feed belt features

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I know how to make a drum sander! I've designed five of them from the ground up. But this one is by far the best! It has all the bells and whistles including a feed belt, complete adjustability and access to both the top and the bottom of the drum for double duty sanding!

[@StumpyNubs]

There's a shorter, better version of this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZjUeoGaf8Zsjdk

[@RoryGamble]

I wish I had seen this comment 15 minutes ago!

[@eclipsestorm1975]

I'm watching this in 2020, why did you ever stop utilizing dad? He's hilarious!

[@gregaltenhofel7326]

Love these older formatted shows. Honestly it is what got me to watch and ultimately subscribe however long ago it was. It was a while ago I do know that. Shortly after I started watching KZbin

[@CustomWoodWorkDecor]

You’re dad looks like he can fix anything. Awesome man.

[@ILikeRagtime]

I love your attitude! 'I CAN MAKE IT BETTER"

[@watcherdude1330]

Honestly STUMPY , I have watched a lot of your videos on KZbin. And had no idea that you were this incredibly gifted. At first I thought you were joking with your dad . The reason I say this is not to be judging your intelligence, but to judge your character. Meaning most people of your intelligence are so ARROGANT, and not easy to listen to. But you are exact opposite. Your so down to earth. Thank you VERY MUCH for sharing your knowledge and abilities. YOU SIR. DESERVE A COLD ONE 🍺

[@drummondmj]

I like the "Mathias could do it" comment Awesome video thanks!

[@StumpyNubs]

Thanks Mr. Drummond! Say hello to Arnold and Willis for me!

[@dr1llb1t8]

LOL

[@scottriff]

this is the best video I think you've ever made. "your head is a pudding factory" is clearly the finest comeback ever delivered

[@phermey]

I finally found a use for the treadmill I broke down nearly a decade ago. Conveyor belt, bearings. bushings. motor, rollers, etc. It's all sitting in a box.

[@mymathmind]

This is a nerdy woodworking project even by stumpy nubs standards!! Amazing!

[@wilcoxtube]

Stumpy - I just need to compliment you and the guys for all the creative effort and work that you put into all your videos. Really impressive. I will be adding your drum sander to my project list. Keep up the great work - it is appreciated by those who, well, appreciate it!

[@StumpyNubs]

Thanks!

[@heru-deshet359]

That's not just a sander. It's a work of art.

[@SeanofZeus]

adding an extra pully to the motor shaft would allow you to automate the hand feeding mechanism. I dig the top sanding feature. Really neat. I love watching your vids, Thank you!

[@greatnortherntroll6841]

I was only a day or two away from purchasing a new sander, but now I have a different plan... Well, I'll have a different plan when I get it from you, Stumpy! Thanks for the fun and informative vid! :)

[@TrevorDennis100]

Wow, what a great video James, and excellent picture quality for 2014. I smiled at the nose picking @11:24, and then cracked up completely when it was flicked at Mike a few moments later. Some great ideas for the sander. I particularly like the hand wound conveyor belt.

[@henrysiegertsz8204]

They sure don't make 'em like this anymore! Brilliant video James H and Moustache Mike!

[@tgirard123]

FYI, if any of you were Fans of 'Shop Notes' magazine, you might remember their Drum Sander in ISSUE 86. It's very similar to this one but doesn't have a motorized bed. I built it years ago and motorized the bed and it worked great

[@StumpyNubs]

I'm not sure you watched the video. There is no motorized bed, and this sander is way different, especially how the drum is exposed on the top.

[@jordanjustice4414]

Ya stumpy your videos are quality and educational!

[@ericblankenship6564]

Awesome. Just got me a Shopsmith and this gives me all the info I need to build a custom drum sander accessory for it. Thanks for explaining some of the detailed fine tuning like belt tracking that can make or break a project like this.👍

[@jansempels2663]

The two of you sound like an old married couple !! Great !!

[@Bloodangel1977]

I love the Abbott and Costello bit =)

[@Chris.Davies]

Very cool machine. Nicely done. To get more grit for your buck, you could measure the angle the sander belt wraps around the drum, and make your initial cut through the belt at that same angle, then you'd be sanding all the way to the edge of the drum, all the way around.

[@sretchko]

Great sander Stumps! can't wait to get the plans. I used 2" thick mahogany block for bearings with a 1/16" oil hole. My 18" drum sander has been going strong for 10 years with no wear in the mahogany bearing. Mahogany is perfect because its porous to soak up the oil and hard enough to not wear out. Of course I used a solid shaft, to use a threaded shaft mahogany wouldn't work. After seeing this one it's definitely time for an upgrade to replaceable drums. Thanks!

[@gregbenwell6173]

Has me dying in 2020 STILL at the "Mathias could do it" jab!! LOL

[@GFStodtmeister]

I've watched this video several times and laughed at you're nose picking, but it wasn't until this last viewing that I saw you flick your booger at Mustache Mike! Now, that's entertainment! Besides that, great video, as always.

[@guydicarlo]

The two of you play great off each other. Keep it up🎎

[@rogermccarthy9230]

Nice informative video on building the drum sander and I enjoyed the humor as well. That kept it interesting.I have a Delta 16/32 belt sander and you have some upgrades on yours that I wish Delta had thought of.

[@adamtanderson75]

I have wached this video about a dozen time and I still laugh at Mike holding the palm sander every time.

[@leemcminn4978]

Stumpy, have you thought about making this so it can work off your table saw? You could just create a pulley to put on the blade axle and connect the belt that way. This would be helpful to those of us with small workshops and even less money. Instead of having to find a motor, we could just use the one on our table saw.

[@charlesukwumaka1779]

Lee Mcminn like

[@LJG781]

I really enjoyed the Humor, you held my attention...Good job

[@hazembata]

Great project Mr. Stumpy. Love the humor as usual.

[@StumpyNubs]

Thanks, Hazem!

[@JimCoogan_CoogansWorkshop]

Can't wait to see the plans for this one. Great build.

[@michaelthomas7437]

Have a great new year and get yourself a cold one, you've earned it my friend. Mick in the U/K

[@Faber_Nox]

stumpy bring back the funny intros

[@l3ender15]

This looks fantastic. I will definitely be buying the plans and building it!!

[@StumpyNubs]

Plans will be up in a few days. Thanks!

[@dougshaw9701]

woo hoo been looking for plans so got them Thanks for this video

[@gtlightning98]

I just finished mine and it turned out OK. Really watch the plans and the changes that need to be updated with measurements. I'd change a few things for sure but won't get into all of that detail. I'd use thicker threaded rods for the belt crank for sure. Also, see how far your bearings, 3/4 shaft and pulley will stick out before you make the cover for the pulley/belt/dust collection. I have to redo that piece because the pulleys stick out too far to fit in. Pay very close attention to getting the holes in the drums and pulley rollers centered. This will save a lot of headache. I was almost on but the belt rollers are just a bit off of really smooth feeding. At least tracking hasn't been a problem. Funny thing is I ordered a Supermax before I even got a motor for the DIY

[@BackyardWoodworking]

Very nice indeed. Drum sander are so expensive to buy. This looks like a good solution to that problem. Thanks Stump and Mike. Roland

[@StumpyNubs]

The Stash has a Grizzly drum sander in his shop. Now I have this one. Hopefully now he'll stop saying "Na-Na! I have a drum sander and you don't!"

[@BackyardWoodworking]

LOL and your was cheaper Thanks again

[@gjdewald]

Stumpy Nubs Do you have to hand crank the Grizzly drum sander?

[@topgundk]

"Matthias could do it" talk about a I DARE YOU :) Very nice project fellows, very nice. Funny and high quality video production like always

[@StumpyNubs]

No, not a dare. Just a joke. He's proven his abilities far more than I have! Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it!

[@Seanfrtd]

First time I've seen this video, and there are already several improvements that have to be done to this design.

[@brewermoe883]

such as?

[@Seanfrtd]

@@brewermoe883 using one motor to turn both the sanding head and the feed table

[@TheShavingWoodWorkshop]

Nicely done Stumpy.

[@StumpyNubs]

Glad you liked it!

[@dougmulle2627]

One of your best videos! Now I have a craving for pudding

[@hamstereyes]

Wow, amazing! Best plan and system yet. -Gary

[@davidfrishcosy6158]

MARK 10:37 Is they replied, "Let one of us sit at your right hand and the other at your left in your glory". Thanks for the verse.

[@wcroyal]

Great project and another great video. I got a chuckle from the "flick" at 11:30.

[@StumpyNubs]

My wife said it was immature... 18 years of marriage and she still expects me to act like an adult!

[@markw3598]

Stumpy Nubs WOMEN!!!!!!! They will never learn.

[@JeffreyFeyh-rb4xk]

That's great building

[@kcubs222]

Stumpy, have you ever thought of using a tread mill drum. Having torn apart two tread mills for other projects there is almost every piece you will need

[@marknantais8283]

Great video,you guys crack me up.I'll be watching more from you guys.Thanks

[@lexboegen]

Great idea and well thought-out implementation too! I suggest not making the wooded handle for the feed belt, but instead just use an electric drill (with variable speeds and a trigger lock) instead.

[@effeinc]

another good one stumpy, ask the Stash how he likes you now,..... "bet Matthias Could do it" to good lol

[@darrellelven9391]

Just finished building this sander. The pipe was unexpectedly out of round. Flat sanding would have taken forever. I wound up making a router bridge above the pipe and using a flattening but while rotating the drum. Lots of PVC chips but very round drum.

[@WoodsconsinWoodworking]

Man that talk of pudding and pie made me hungry. Lmao well great build stumpy. Keep them coming.

[@cybercapri]

Excellent project and nice upgrades....

[@StumpyNubs]

Thanks, Paul!

[@IH1940HAY]

Is this a Home shop Cooking Show, first Pudding then Pie what next??? LOL Thanks for all your neat videos.

[@lauramarshall6376]

"The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true." :)

[@mrbandit007]

Love the humoir. I'm from Gothenburg.... But I do get lost some times.

[@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549]

Best Video you've produced! You answered my complaint that you don't shoe you using these. Nice job! Clear, cocise and you explained how it got to where it is. Yo've incorporated a belt and answed complaints about the jet and grizzly belt tracking issues. I've got the old plans but I'm getting the new ones. And you've kept your sense of humor. Almost an Abbot and Costello routine. LOL! Ask Mike he'll know who they are! Cudos on this production. I'm not sure if it's my end or yours but the video was at times fuzzy?

[@TheDirtFighter]

That is a really cool "home made" sander..I noticed this is the improved model and since you like to revisit and improve past projects...I see a twin drum duel grit sander in the future :)

[@taquitosensei]

So far enjoying building this. Its really stretching my abilities. A couple of notes. For the micro adjustment I cant find 3/4 carriage bolts. Can i use hex bolts or 1/2" carriage. The directions say 1/4" rod. But all the pictures and video shows larger at least 3/8. Its too late now for the rollers. But im changing the height adjustment. 1/4 fender washers are too small for the height adjustment. Also the two mdf panels need to be 21 1/8 by 17. Not 19 3/4.

[@hofnerbass]

Flickin' the boogie at the "stash".... I'm peeing in my pants laughing.

[@handyman1310]

you're awsome stumpy. funny as heck too

[@pikubird]

Good design! Now add a 12v motor to the spinning tray and that will make things a lot better

[@sethalump]

"Matthias could do it" - ROFL

[@davidfrishcosy6158]

You two guys are very funny, and looks don't count. loved the video

[@PeterPasieka]

One of the funniest videos I've seen from you guys. LOL

[@Shopwolfe]

Built the sander. Now I just have to fine tune it. I was pretty easy. My problem now is that the discs for the drums were perfectly centered and I have to redo those. Thanks! Cost me about $200. Plus I will spend another 100 for auto feed dc motor set up

[@stuartmunn4932]

Hi Stumpy, I made this sander from your plans, I did send some questions about the tuning and balancing but not received any reply. Also quite a few of the measurements on the plans are not correct. However thats not a big issue, but I would like to see the tuning and balancing video One of the problems I've had is making the plastic drum properly round which of course causing BIG issues with vibration. I have a solution for that but it means making a jig! Anyway I think the sander will work eventually but dont expect it to a simple build and tune up. Cheers Stuart from Scotland.

[@StumpyNubs]

There are some measurement corrections posted on our website in the "homemade tools" section. (See corrections and additions box). We will be making the balancing video as soon as we can. If you wish to do it sooner it is pretty simple. Tilt the table upward until it touches the PVC drum (without sandpaper on the drum) and lock it in place. Use the adjustment screws on the block that supports the end of the drum to adjust the drum as parallel to the table as you can. (Raising or lowering the end of the drum via that block with the bearing in it.) Then attach some course sandpaper sheets to a piece of flat plywood or MDF. I used a staple gun to attach them. Turn on the sander, again with no paper on the PVC drum, and feed the plywood beneath the drum. You are sanding the PVC down, making it parallel to the table. Once the entire length of the PVC is been sanded, you know it is balanced and parallel to the table. Repeat the process with any other drums you wish to make.

[@stuartmunn4932]

Stumpy thanks for quick response, Thats an easier way to true the drum than I thought up :) I'll give it a go and report back. I enjoy your lessons very funny ! cheers Stuart

[@mtabernig]

Very good job, excellent workmanship. I just finnish with mine. @

[@garyhorton6652]

Very informative and entertaining.

[@davidnipp3623]

I was thinking of driving my feed belt with the rotisserie drive motor!

[@Tugmun11]

Yo Mr Nubbs you have a great channel it's funny and very informative I really enjoy it thanks for all you do.. Keep up the da good work.... =O)

[@mrbandit007]

OMG! Change drums! I just spoike to my wiife about this,, insinuating (correcword?) I have to to think harder.. But there's people as smart as I like to bo be.. Thnx!

[@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff]

I'm still waiting for the plans to become available to buy. Stumpy Nubs , the suspense is killing me! I must build one! By the way, I read your recent magazine article. I really enjoy your perspective and insight regarding home made tools. Congratulations.

[@shanejohnson800]

You guys are awesome

[@Shopbuilt]

Pretty sweet!

[@ibidesign]

Great video and glad you kept a potentially complex subject both easy to follow and interesting. Is there anything YOU can't design/make?

[@wcndave]

Nice vid. The plans say Luckily we've produced a video walking you through the process (of tuning and balancing), however i've never been able to find that video. Also, I wanted ot write the corrections directly onto the PDF, however the protection you've afforded it means one can't. Would it not be better to update the plans online so we can download corrected ones? Thanks!

[@Evandersonjmelo]

Put masking tape on the roll and then move glue and put the sandpaper will not have more problems to take roll neck, hugs.

[@MrMarkpeggy]

Wow James, I just found this cool video in the way back machine. It was nice to see your dad in this episode. How is Mike doing these days?

[@StumpyNubs]

He's fine. Doesn't get on camera much. But he occasionally shows up in the vlog videos.

[@dangatto8666]

Holy crap you have a lot of hand planers!

[@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff]

AWESOME, Stumpy. I really appreciate this information. I'm heading over now to buy your plans. By the way, I saw your great and recent article in, uhm, Wood Magazine, was it? I've always loved your amazing builds and videos. This one was funny and informative. Well shoot, they ALL are!

[@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff]

Aww, the plans aren't available yet. As soon as they are I want 'em!

[@docjim1180]

The belts last a lot longer if you use a plastic dressing stick while sanding. It stops the burn marks on the paper.

[@leonardsean01]

Hey Stumpy, Just wondering what the (approximate) cost of materials would be to produce the sander, and also what tools are required (i.e. jigsaw, drillpress, etc.)

[@44krob]

Just started watching. Please tell me “Stumpy” has all his fingers and toes. Back to the video.

[@mchamster7]

Hrm... that top bit..... If you actually made it in two halves, and made those two halves independently height adjustable, that right there is a sander jointer.

[@dalefarmer4160]

I’ve been working on this drum sander for a couple of months. The biggest issue I’ve run into is that the drum seized up after about a minute of operation. I’ve reviewed the instructions and can’t figure out what the problem is.

[@nickb_rock]

Stumpy where are you from?! Is that your Dad?? He sounds Canadian! I'm from Southwestern Ontario and a lot of my city of Windsor likes the Red Wings, we're the border town to Detroit. All the best man, love your videos

[@zanderwalby1593]

Winterstieger is a ski company that has well priced belts and sizes

[@mbrsart]

With current wood prices, I might as well just buy a drum sander. T^T

[@murrayglen651]

I am in the process of building the 2 stage sander with the 48" conveyor belt and believe that the 2 belt table panels (MDF) are not 19 3/4" x 21 1/8" but rather 17 3/4 x 21 1/8. The 19 3/4" length will not allow for fitting a 48" belt over the 2 end rollers and the table or for the rollers to fit between the two end rollers. Is this correct or am I missing something???

[@goingreen8457]

id like to know the answer to that as well since i am contemplating ordering the plans and building this.

[@tchantrey]

I ended up cutting the MDF all the way down to 17”. Otherwise the conveyor belt wouldn’t go over the sides. I could tell something was off because the threaded rods on the sides had WAY too much slack at 19 3/4”. The gap between the side pieces was much wider than the pictures.

[@mattharouff3437]

Would it be worth while to get 3 handheld belt sanders then rig them to operate together as a drum sander? Is that a sound idea or maybe it's been debunked by someone. I do love the idea of this build.

[@gregaltenhofel7326]

Now that this is little more than a year old how is it holding up? How much use does it get?

[@lourias]

AWESOMENESS!!!!

[@AwesomeWoodThings]

Um... Wow! Impressive!!

[@stevetobias4890]

Love the funny bugga attitude in this video. Great job guys. By the way, what are you drinking?

[@scottwebster7613]

Stumpy, I was curious what glue/epoxy you are using to keep your wooden wheels inside the PVC. Really enjoy the videos!

[@menotyou9406]

So why not take an other motor slower and use it to drive the feed belt? You would gain consistent feed rates

[@mrx.2233]

Mr Stumpy Nubs, I cannot help being distracted by the millions or saws and planers behind you. Are you restoring them or just collecting? Sorry I know off topic but I had to ask.

[@StumpyNubs]

I use some, collect others.

[@thomashanson6607]

I hope to build one but while watching the video at 13:33 I noticed the infeed assembly going up and down as you cranked the handle. What kind of thickness tolerances are you able to make the sander hold? .

[@StumpyNubs]

I didn't have it locked down. There is a lock to secure it. It can do 4" thick.

[@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff]

Stumpy Nubs What's the ETA on the plans for this one? I have money I want to give you!