So A New Gaming Handheld Leaked Before CES...

[@doyle8711]

PC Handheld wise I only bother with Steam as they will support their products for years. While the others like Lenovo make a product then drop support 6 months later when their new device launches. I have a physical Steam Link device that got discontinued pretty quick yet I still receive updates on a regular basis. Always choose those that give you long term support.

[@cadizking8161]

But will they actually support the games

[@deangordon8993]

... it's a pc, very easy to have community support.

[@cadizking8161]

@@deangordon8993 Steam deck uses Linux, games are supported case by case.

[@Mustradamus]

What's with all the Lenovo hate? I have the steam deck, and the legion go and the legion go is an amazing device.

[@cadizking8161]

@@deangordon8993 Steam deck is Linux, not all games are compatible on release.

[@remonalvarado9423]

Merry Christmas man

[@JReed7560]

Merry Christmas to you and yours. Have a safe one. 🎉 🎄

[@techzone2009]

Merry Christmas ❤

[@TSmith-rl4xd]

Merry Christmas everyone. Peace on earth and goodwill towards all !!

[@mansoso3903]

Unless it has a 80wh battery, it’s DOA. It’s time these devices start putting in bigger batteries going forward.

[@Finch08]

Im confident the Go 2 will have, at minimum, an 80wh battery. They should go with a 100wh but 80 will do. I still have my 250wh anker battery bank, so it's whatever.

[@cozzy4447]

You can get rechargeable banks its not a big deal unless your a tight wad 😂

[@MarbleGiant]

RISC (e.g. ARM) is the only long term strategy. x86 is such a limitation, unless battery tech improves - imagine this approach in mobile!!! 😂

[@Lutrix-86]

Merry Christmas everyone!

[@skoker]

Merry Christmas

[@andyenglish4303]

I keep hoping developers would take the hint and realize the success of Switch and handheld PCs means that you don't need to push graphics so hard to succeed... but here we are with games that need 12 GB of video RAM + 16 GB of system RAM to get a smooth framerate.

[@Enzed_]

@@andyenglish4303 playing at 1080p low-medium settings is still pretty viable on an 8 GB vram GPU.

[@AustinT97]

Not to mention that Indiana Jones, for example, requires 120 GB of storage space. These games are also becoming bigger as well.

[@mikeuk666]

​@@AustinT9740gb of that are the higher texture option

[@PhenomRom]

Why would you need more than 1080p on a 7 inch screen lol.

[@zerorig]

google nexus 7 (it was also 7 inches) was 1920x1200p more than 10 years ago a little more is about the sweet spot imo 4k at that size would be total overkill but phones are higher than 1080p at 5-6 inches. iphone 16 pro max is 2868x1320p at 6.9 inches for example

[@TheMissingDislikeButton]

because apparently gamers eye can zoom in 2x optically

[@odin8214]

my phone has a 4k screen its pretty great.

[@sam805236]

My old LG smartphone had 1440p and even on a 6" screen there was a big difference between 1080p and 1440p especially on text and small details. Text can be a huge issue when console games are played on these handhelds as they weren't necessarily made for them.

[@ThepurposeofTime]

When Stadia was on my phone like three years ago the screen literally looked like a 5K PC monitor Higher resolution on a small screen goes a long way

[@Mario_MartinezF]

Feliz Navidad gente! Much love to all

[@DreDrums215]

Marry Christmas Bro!

[@RetroMythologist]

Merry Christmas!!!

[@georged7627]

Merry Christmas big man 🤘🏼

[@riskvideos]

Merry Christmas John

[@Rooster832]

I'd much rather the Switch 2 just come out with an OLED instead of buying the Switch 2 and an OLED model a year or two later.

[@PulseOfMe]

Not a fan of oled, having to worry about burn in and babying ur device to prevent it seems tiredsome, no, I rather mini LED. Good medium between oled and led, plus can be brighter and have better colour output

[@Rooster832]

@PulseOfMe I'm saying make two options. You can get burnin on LED as well. I got it on a 2022 lg nano cell TV while playing Spider-Man on PS5.

[@PulseOfMe]

@Rooster832 that's LCD, not LED bro completely different tech. Mini LED is the way of the future when it comes to screen technology because it has best of both worlds

[@Rooster832]

@@PulseOfMe I meant LED, not LCD, if that is even a thing? Either way, like I said, I'd rather they make both.

[@Rooster832]

and OLED still has several advantages over mini LED

[@HyruleFan0]

Merry Christmas 🎄🎁

[@BenjahPele]

Merry Christmas.

[@ZeroCoolYT]

🎁🎄 " Merry Christmas Spawnwave " 🎄🎁

[@skitzo4215]

Merry Christmas 🎄🎁

[@thebloodletter7824]

Merry Christmas!!!

[@MissFoxification]

A switch competitor to me would be an android device. Closer in size and weight, limited in games, can stream, lower price. You can even put SteamOs on it. The PC based units are the next step up.

[@requiett]

The more powerful Legion Go is already cheaper than this being $550 new at multiple locations.

[@shane_8796]

🎉🎉🎉Merry Christmas 🎅

[@austinhowells20]

Merry Christmas

[@matthewLkidder]

Nintendo has 2 things, Affordability and games

[@Whit3WolfXArcadia]

They can afford a loss too

[@XavierZara]

And they're all out of affordability

[@UltraGreenNo.57]

In the hardware section. But I haven't bought a first party game in probably 3 years because of the price.

[@nothisispatrick6528]

But not affordable games

[@robertw31968]

@matthewLkidder that's the exact reason I buy Nintendo stuff. At least they haven't made it where you have to sell a kidney to enjoy gaming.

[@yamazakitakahiro5515]

I wonder what the speed of the RAM on the Legion Go 2 is

[@VGMTheory101]

I'd recommend avoiding lenovo anything at all costs. I've only ever gotten faulty products. Even with their premium warranty, they refused to repair or replace my laptop.

[@gloryholdofficial]

I'll wait for the rog version with a z2 extreme because it's the only one you can easily upgrade the SSD in without having to clone drives

[@oldtimegamer8253]

Merry Christmas 🎄

[@martintomlinson3073]

Marry Christmas

[@doyle8711]

Steamdeck struggling with Indiana Jones isn't weird as it has to have RTX on at all times which kills frame rate.

[@seppeseppe-jq7nr]

slowdeck struggle with most all games 😂 unlike you makenthe grafik switch like then better fps 😢😢😢

[@arcadeportal32]

Indiana Jones is having issues with even top nvidia cards right now. Idk what gave them the bright idea to force Raytracing vs. a toggle other than a fat paycheck from nVidia..

[@Aries73]

For the trust fund baby with more dollars than sense...

[@theshadowdirector]

Surprised we haven't yet seen Razer or Alienware give it a proper go.

[@kozywolfpack]

Came for Nintendo switch 2 Stayed for Spawn Wave

[@shazwansith2397]

A very good Wednesday, indeed

[@Cammm06]

hope you had a great Christmas :))

[@No-One-Important-Here]

At some point, the Switch 2 will feel outdated with all these competition even before it is revealed.

[@GM-Shenmue]

Switch 1 was already outdated when it got released, so was PS4, Xbox One.

[@Stefantius]

the console gimmick and the games will be what sets the switch apart and moves units

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

Playstation portal 4 lyfe! 😂

[@benalvis6722]

Merry Christmas spawn wave

[@IMZ44]

Good thing, I use my Steam for other things outside of gaming. These gaming handhelds are becoming a bit crowded.

[@laurovaldez8752]

Im just waiting for someone to have the courage to say “…and if that doesn’t apply to you…GFY :)” 😂

[@That_Dan_Guy_]

So, what is with the black curtain behind you? Are you remodelling?

[@boatsdronesandvettes]

He always does that when he posts one off videos(not daily news), guessing when he does his own editing

[@Smexbi]

What happend to the guy that wanted to leak the Switch 2 at Christmas? Hasnt heard any news about that.

[@gloryholdofficial]

I can't believe Alienware and razer haven't released handhelds it's right up their alley they showed an Alienware handheld before the steam deck even launched

[@Oryon7]

So... another PC handheld with unimpressive performance per watt ratio (for a mobile device), terrible battery life, focusing on talking points that makes little sense for a small device, at a price that will not appeal to anyone outside of die-hard gamers? I've seen this play before...

[@dootpls]

Welcome to the PC market

[@deionwilliams782]

Merry Christmas SWM

[@Cloud92390]

More competition is great. More options are great. Let the consumer decide what will sell

[@0x8badbeef]

Quality is not something I look for in a handheld. It first needs to be able to run on the battery for at least a couple hours of solid playing. It also needs to charge fast. I will assume you can play while charging. I don't need it to do anything else but play the game. Anything else is redundant.

[@geminijinxies7258]

Everyone wants a piece of the pie, so will we see a handheld bubble burst soon? Or maybe it's like laptop PCs where the market will do fine even with many brands and models.

[@scruffy3121]

Missed opportunity to make it dual boot windows and steam os

[@youraveragedillon5958]

Does nobody remember the Alienware UFO handheld? It was meant to come out before the steam deck

[@itsdeonlol]

Merry Christmas!

[@Sojyne]

Damn was hoping for them to keep the detachable controllers love my legion and steamdeck but that feature is nice to have.

[@SakuraAvalon]

Feels like the handheld market is becoming overcrowded.

[@inamorta47-playertwist]

PC handhelds.

[@tielmaster7879]

Most are placed into different tiers though in terms of power. So basically, the PC market but in handheld form. No surprise there.

[@DoamBot]

Nintendo and Steam Deck Doesn't seem overcrowded at all to me.

[@tielmaster7879]

@@DoamBot steam deck, rog ally, rog ally x, msi claw, legion go, Ayaneo. A lot for PC handhelds actually. Probably some other less popular ones I haven't heard about too. In addition to new ones coming out and Xbox supposedly getting in on the action.

[@averagelyabel3767]

Every market is overcrowded what’s your point we should only have one company making handhelds ? That’s why there’s so many phone companies, computer, etc so people can have options. Better for consumers

[@MedalionDS9]

I think I like these Legion Go series of systems

[@AnthonySmith-bj9mo]

hi Spawn Wave

[@ahmedp8009]

Asus deployed AMD frame generation 2 for Rog Ally few days back. And I also finished Indiana on it recently. I don't see a reason to upgrade honestly, unless its twice more powerful, then yes. Valve's strategy is smart, wait for better technology for new hardware.

[@Charlesdayis]

The thing with Nintendo is they have built up their library so much and have so many FUN original titles that they are going to be safe. They are almost in a different category

[@deangordon8993]

I hear this all the time, but it really isn't true they are all overpriced kiddy games that are repetitive and uninspiring. Not to mention the store is complete garbage. I mean worse than dumpster water.

[@krayozmines]

Breath of the wild is uninspiring? Jk i get what you mean. If you're not into platformers or puzzle games then getting a nintendo switch is a waste. I happen to like those games so I'm staying a nintendo customer. I dont care for their party games but i tink its nice they offer the option to people who play with friends and family. @deangordon8993

[@akg7873]

@@deangordon8993um…what you stated is an opinion. What the OP states is a FACT. YOU don’t like their games and think it’s kiddie games. The wider market says otherwise evidenced by the constant crazy sales of not only the switch itself but the first party games Nintendo releases. As OP said they’re in a different category. That category isn’t for everyone sure, not for you I guess. But ‘you hear this all the time’ because it’s a FACT bud 😂

[@Cellardoor_]

They need to make these handhelds modular for easy upgrades

[@ziolan8970]

The steamdeck is to the highest extent, but most of them are making it increasingly easy to service at home.

[@aaryscare214]

I love my Steamdeck and my ROG Ally. I can’t wait to see what will be coming next.

[@Harlock2day]

This is not aimed at Nintendo market's but Valve's. Mostly parent would not buy those consoles for their kids. They are still portable pc devices for young workers with disposable income. They are also all digital. Like Valve's offering, how much are you willing to pay to play games ?

[@Richard-d3o]

Appreciate the detailed breakdown! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@Liam-hp1qw]

Really hoping that the Legion Go 2 is amazing out the gate. I could see it being $900

[@caleb7475]

Having 2 is good for longevity. If one stops working you still have another.

[@ReptilianRichardRamirez]

I have the original legion go and it's honestly excellent if you can find it on sale.

[@patrickkelly3617]

Lenovo legion go is an amazing handheld, this looks interesting but I more stoked at the idea of a legion go 2 beefed up 8.8 inch improved battery life next model...

[@medeusmediuth7543]

An advantage that the Nintendo Switch has over all these PC handhelds, even the Steam Deck, is that it's thinner and lighter. I see a lot of people bringing that up

[@catchthisfire]

i dont need thinner and lighter joycons fucken suck

[@batmanbud2]

And also, PHYSICAL GAMES.

[@FSAPOJake]

I find the Steam Deck to be a lot more comfortable to hold and use for long sessions, especially the lighter OLED model. The Switch is a flat slab and isn't very ergonomic, while the Steam Deck has a perfect shape to it.

[@DMindGaming]

Although the steam deck is more powerful and gives you access to your steam library on the go the Switch however gives you access to Nintendo exclusives like Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Zelda etc. If I only had enough money for 1 of them I'd choose the Switch and just stick to pc for my steam games.

[@smileandlaughs]

I don't see it as an advantage. It's size is still too big to carry around. It maybe lighter but not much. For a lot of people, it's partly from marketing and exclusive titles. When it comes to game quantity, steam still has more. You can also emulate most Switch games on the steamdeck and other devices.

[@kainairsoft2331]

I see many people in here bring up Switch affordability. Oh boy, are you gonna be surprised when the successor hits the market! Merry Christmas!

[@tthmps]

The nintendo switch 2 better launch off well with one version. I always hated how they made a better battery version shortly after release.

[@zatokeo5935]

I'm kinda losing interest in gaming in general but I play some retro games for a quick casual fun time and I hope I can enjoy the new monster hunter wilds.

[@adnerayala3409]

I really want to know what is the FKing problem with all this companies that keep making handheld without Oled screen , What the Fk is going on 😡🤬🤬

[@Neiru24]

Looks good not over price

[@danc.1908]

It's not as cheap as a switch or switch 2 but man it can do so much more game pass, emulation, and if u got the windows version PC word, web browser, and also it will play PC games

[@DoomyRei]

What the hell is a USB 4 do you mean zc

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

First the ps portal, now this!

[@strykerdragoon131]

Anyone complaining would still buy a switch 2 at 500 dollars. If you can't afford it or don't want it it's not for you

[@ThetaxDeltax]

do these have a touch pad. can you use a tablet pen and draw a picture as and example? gotta make one just as powerfull the size of a psp and run windows. why not be more 4k ready no matter what you buy. what's going on. 4k been out for a decade and still.

[@glasssawsslipperstraws7410]

If the Go S isn't $400 at most then it has no reason to exist

[@tygur23]

Ps vita must be your price range

[@DaniPooo]

I think you underestimate the power of the Nintendo brand. They don't need to compete with these handhelds. In fact they are not competing with them based on sales. The market for handheld PC's is relatively small and that's not without reason. First of all, people don't but Nintendo Hardware for gaming power and performance. They but Nintendo hardware mainly because of Mario, Pokemon and Zelda. And if they can deliver new Mario, Pokemon and Zelda games that looks even better and cooler than what they did on the Switch then that will be enough for most fans to buy the system. The second reason why most people don't buy these PC handhelds (or android handhelds) comes down to the OS and user experience. Most of these devices don't come with something like SteamOS installed. For a handheld you just wanna pick it up and start gaming within seconds, not wait for launchers to load and mess around with mouse cursors and stuff (especially when on a shaky bus or train for example). This is where a gaming dedicated OS is really desirable. Third reason is that these devices are usually bulky and have poor battery life when running them at high power (And the high performance is why you would get these I suppose) So the way I see these handhelds are more as a hobbyist device for people who just want to push graphics as much as possible on a handheld (sacrificing convenience and user experience) This might change a bit the day Microsoft decides to allow you to install an Xbox OS on any PC turning any and all PC's into Xboxes. Or when Valve allows you to install SteamDeck OS on any PC. But even then I don't think Nintendo needs to worry because they still have their games and people are more than happy to overpay a bit for the hardware in order to play those games.

[@techzone2009]

I am a hindu, and I love Christmas 🎄. It is my favorite festival after Diwali ❤

[@DamienThimons-rv1wj]

Merry Christmas to you and your family. Despite being a huge Sony fanboy You're not too bad a guy... Or So it may seem.😊

[@mielthesquid6536]

all these companies look so uninspired with their Switch clones lol

[@andyvasquez470]

If these things are getting too expensive I'll just wait for a switch or valves successor

[@RealPoi]

Nintendo going to have the huge benefit of 3rd party devs making a version thats built for their console compared to the PC handhelds where its just the PC version that you gotta gamble with.

[@af4396]

The only PC handheld I care about is Steam Deck, and I'm OK holding out for whenever they release a "next gen" one. Switch 2 will be great. I really want to see FF7 Rebirth hit the Switch 2...

[@xxnike0629xx]

What many people will want to know is how Nintendo will respond to these portable gaming PCs. Will Nintendo sell multiple SKUs, will they have a higher than expected price or will they have the price low but keep the specs high... It certainly is going to be an interesting few months.

[@Whatsup_Abroad]

Every single portable PC on the market put together aren't anywhere near competitive with Nintendo's market sales. It's just not at all reasonable when tons of Nintendo buyers are not serious gamers who do it as a main hobby. Many do it as a activity they occasionally enjoy with their families. I have had multiple PC handhelds. I also have a gaming PC. I worked on multiple VR headset releases. I would NEVER buy a PC handheld for my kid or family as a family gaming system. It sounds like hell. Do you know how many things can go wrong when someone goes tinkering in settings? I'm not running IT for them! I want the family stuff quick easy and simple. I am not putting any additional effort into the experience beyond turning it on and popping in a game. At some point the cost savings with PC gaming aren't enough to compensate for the time lost screwing around with it.

[@kaepowboom9116]

I’ma get that Legion go 2

[@wmoule]

Because the price is in Euro. It probably includes tax.

[@j3001m]

This as now been changed to 4 core I.e. they got the spec wrong

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

I'm getting the Legion Go S. Windows simply does NOT fit the handhelds right now. MS has yet to make an Xbox-styled version of Win11.

[@Finch08]

$1000 for a better Go? Sign me right up!

[@tthmps]

I’m waiting for something more powerful than the rog ally x

[@hallowmaxberry74]

Not interested on a handheld that will be on clearance at best buy at few months after release

[@CasualViewer-t4f]

I argue there are two different customer bases for the new Switch versus a handheld PC. For instance I’d never buy my wife a Steam Deck even though she loves her Switch. She would have zero interest in tinkering graphical settings and setting up Proton for unsupported games.

[@TheOx413]

After seeing this chart, I can see the Steam model being the lowest price point

[@romanknight9074]

Microsoft will be thirsty to call that an Xbox also 😂

[@lorddrifter7296]

It is

[@romanknight9074]

@ just like my trash can 🗑️

[@PulseOfMe]

I'm glad everything is an xbox, imagine being forced to buy 1 product and 1 product only to play certain games. I don't wanna live in the past anymore. W xbox.

[@romanknight9074]

@@PulseOfMe another brainwashed drone 🥱

[@GodoftimeGaming]

I know a lot of people using these handhelds as their main pc so ports are a good thing also these a lot of docks that people could use for this

[@finngomezgamer]

The switch is thinner, lighter, cheaper, has all the Nintendo ip, brand recognition, super user friendly design and ui that’s easy to get into games with

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

The Steam Deck has a UI that's easy to get into as well.

[@FabledFiend]

It's cheaper because it's way weaker than the competition. Also, Nintendo Switch has atrocious features compared to their competitors.

[@AustinT97]

600 dollars is definitely not a "budget-friendly" device. I feel like Lenovo could've done something to bring the cost down to at least 450 dollars to make it actually budget-friendly.

[@balaam_7087]

$99 is budget friendly for a consumer electronics device. Anything over is not in ‘impulse buy’ territory and risks being marginalized for all except enthusiasts.

[@AustinT97]

@balaam_7087 99 dollars for a handheld? In this economy?! Man, I wish.😅

[@FallicIdol]

The thing is Nintendo makes money from every piece of software sold in the Switch. Lenovo doesn’t make a dime off of gaming software on Steam or GOG. They have to make their profit at point of sale

[@rah113]

The system int for everyone technology is expensive get what you can't afford it's simple

[@BlueBARv5]

Yeah❗ I wish Lamborghini's only cost 15k and were budget friendly....🤦‍♂️

[@MD-se8ft]

the steam deck is the only proper console handheld next to the switch rn, these glorified gaming laptops that cost 500+ dollars made into a handheld running windows are not something i care about personally. the switch gets proper from the ground up ports, the steam deck at least has steam behind it , but the other ones just use the pc versions, and pc ports are not very optimised.

[@KingCraby]

USB 4?

[@AsherTheModder]

Not even usb 7 ? smh