So.. about Dragon Age

[@Justacatlmao]

This game was falsely advertised. They claimed there would be a diverse set of characters but everyone is Californian.

[@justanormalguy4885]

Wow good job copying the comment from Cohh's video...

[@JoeBuddensNewport]

Snowflake

[@Brumizona]

Its Portland simulator

[@DarkStar700]

😂 looks like it

[@pittsky]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@officerbucktuddrussel394]

"It runs well" That shouldn't be a point of praise, it should be expected.

[@Darinl79]

Well after cyberJUNK it is s selling point 😂😂😂😂

[@Population0ero]

I mean, it still should get praise for that in a landscape where we get a lot of unoptimized pc releases especially

[@argaveus101]

​@@Darinl79 no, that's just an example of a game that didn't meet the expectation

[@TheDiner50]

In what world is 0FPS acceptable as runs well? This is not stutters. This are not micro stutters. This are complete show stoppers. With 4090's and top of the line CPU's. RT turned off. 15-20 years ago there was loading stutters and what not. But not in the middle of combat! Shader compilation and fake frames. That is not 'It runs well'.

[@ThatGuyXX7]

​​@@Population0eronot when it's not pushing the tech. It is simply a fine looking game technically, of course it should run well, nothing more.

[@hi123452008]

DA1: Sell a child's soul to a demon to learn blood magic, sell elves into slavery, corrupt the ashes of fantasy Jesus... DA4: Can't call someone an idiot.

[@doomguy6913]

Taking the role playing out of RPG.

[@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w]

wait the devs are fine with slavery and child sacrifice ? well that speaks volumes.

[@_Vengeance_]

@@doomguy6913 What do you mean? I've never seen a game more perfectly encapsulate roleplaying as a Californian university student.

[@Nek-oski]

I heard that your decisions dont even matter that much, you just choose to either be polite or yell at somebody and then they just walk away and nothing you chose actually did shit. That's sad

[@DefaultName-du3kr]

@@Nek-oski The game has no conflict between characters. In DAO you could kill some companions or make them leave your party out of frustration. DA2 had a friend/rivalry system, same for DAI. This game does not feel like a BW game.

[@prisonerofthehighway1059]

Skillup said it perfectly. “Every conversation sounds like HR is in the room with you.”

[@Paine981]

The dialogs feel like its written by people who are imagining what it is like to talk to a person, but have never actually done so themselves.

[@MM-lu2zk]

Perfect comment. 👍

[@cylontoaster7660]

When your dialogue is about on the level of Dora the Explorer, you've messed up

[@erinspitfire]

it’s probably more true than we know lol

[@RicardoGonzalez-to7vb]

Aren't there a group of them? Are you telling me that they don't even talk to each other? What is this world coming to

[@Zac15]

It was probably written by an AI after they force fed it gender studies curriculum and liberation theology

[@_vanderpool]

Listen, it's a story driven rpg, and if the writing is bad that makes it a bad game. Good combat or whatever can't make up for it.

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

The combat its bad... its like batman arkhan series in ultra easy mode.

[@Xfushion2]

Agreed, in these kind of games the main hook is the story, and the reward for clearing encounters is to get to next story beat, if the story is bad then there's no incentive to engage with the combat, doubly so if the party members are insufferable pricks. Can't believe the studio that put out Mass Effect 2 also shipped this garbage.

[@tBeNz0]

Yeah you would think these companies would hire good writers that write a good story, and then change a few things to fit their narrative. But its like they just have the people who make sure stories are inclusive to write the entire story.

[@mattmartin6493]

​@@Xfushion2 I get it but basically everyone that worked on that game has been gone for a long time. Bioware in name only

[@aquagrunty101]

Well we are good there, the combat looks atrocious. Not just bland, but utterly boring

[@motox20]

After seeing the scene with the lecture about misgendering, I'm done with Bioware.

[@Klahwoo_]

Dragon Age feels like it was written by Critical Role campaign 3 fans. 😬

[@freethinker77]

This. I avoid anything woke.

[@karelstehlik633]

This feels like dialogue created in SBI.

[@josephcook4498]

More people need to come out and say woke = bad game. To many people say it’s bad but not because it’s woke but for all these other reasons. For me being woke is the only reason I need to not buy. In my opinion the wokeness is the source of all the other issues in a game.

[@Soul-Reaver666]

Asmon says these things but he still bought the game ..

[@randalthor6872]

I've never felt better about closing my wallet. They don't deserve our money. RIP Dragon Age; you deserved so much better :(

[@louisebrown103]

If u think this is the dragon age ya wrong

[@Sithalos]

I don't even want to pirate this shit.

[@moonrabbit2334]

I don't even want to spend my data on downloading that game from pirate websites

[@jordanfowler4033]

Speak fer yerselves maties I smell treasure awaitin'! *Que the Sea Shanties*

[@Robert_D_Mercer]

@@jordanfowler4033 lmao, sorry man, I dont even have even disk space for that mess ^^;

[@FPchie]

Rather just repirate DAO instead lol

[@Shilian01]

I tried the game for a couple of hours, honestly it's just boring af. Inquisition is mile better... and that should say a lot.

[@metropolismonke]

"Just buy it and find out" how about no

[@zhongliimpact6220]

nice try Satan

[@xiRePeNTx]

😂😂😂😂

[@Gilsao157]

This new submarine can go visit the Titanic but if you are in doubt why you just buy a ticket and find out?

[@Primarch19th]

Yupp, consume product and get ready for the next product. And Cohh is being paid by EA.

[@EggsAndBacon14]

what a mistake to show interest in this slop and give them the idea that we want more.

[@Beckonfour]

I wouldn't play a FPS with awful gun play, I'm not playing a RPG with awful roleplaying.

[@ChiefGore429]

I don't go to a restaurant and think that the food is crap but the bathrooms, ambiance, and staff were nice, so I'm going to go back.

[@Mxlch999]

Bro you obv played rpg with trash rp .. theres so many 😂

[@eric2433]

​​@@ChiefGore429uhhh what? You've never had an amazing server and gone back to a restaurant with mediocre food because of them? We've lost the art of making connections with other people. Gamers complain more than the woke devs now. Very cliqué-y

[@nocturnal101ravenous6]

Its not an RPG, its a dumb action game with RPG elements. Balder Gate is an RPG, Torment Planescape is an RPG.

[@DDracee]

basically it's dialogue telling you what to think, rather than thought provoking dialogue

[@CJ-wh7ik]

I want to be mean in this game, but I can't. In BG3, after completing the game twice, I did a bad playthrough where I tried to be as mean as possible, but still chose to be nice on a few occasions because the alternative seemed too evil to me. I can't do anything of sorts in DA=/

[@callahan9119]

It's HR training videos where you have to choose the right option at the end.

[@klebyell]

you just learned how to copy and paste lil bro?

[@thebluesuit8239]

@@klebyellDon’t be lame dude. This game sucks and you know it. This game is gonna be BioWare’s Saints Row and bankrupt the company.

[@verro9953]

@@thebluesuit8239 Sadly it probably won't. Despite L after L, they won't stay in the hole.

[@klebyell]

@@thebluesuit8239 im not disagreeing about the game, im laughing at the joke stealing for likes

[@JW82hx]

@@klebyell I'm curious to hear why you think HR is a joke

[@mat4246]

paying $60 for "not a bad game" doesn't sound like a good purchase

[@dennisweiss6621]

Just imagine what gems you can get for 12-20 bucks

[@ezunino1711]

Most streamed would just say that, or to at least try it, of course it's easy for them to say that when it's their job to make content or they get the game for free

[@dannettletonjr]

Yeah.. The issues with guys like Asmon and even the guy in the video is that they are basically playing for "free". This is their job. This is not actually 60 dollars for them. They make much more than that on video profits. "Its not the worst game" translates to "skip" for most of us.

[@Dragon-Believer]

Why play anything but the best games? There are thousands of 10/10 games. I could name 100 off the top of my head.

[@Bilbo122333]

@@dannettletonjrI mean true but also asmon does bring up the price of a game quite a bit. He even said multiple times that he wouldn’t play or buy the stuff he does on stream if he wasn’t a streamer

[@kellymurphy1315]

It's a role playing game, and your role is to hear the developers real world opions only.

[@Drebolaskan]

And in a stroke of genius, the only interactions they allow you to have with the game's narrative is: 1. You are right 2. That's so true 3. Wow, you are so brave 4. I have your back, sister

[@fluffypinkpandas]

I need dialogue options that make Daleks think i’d be a good Dalek

[@amyminty3165]

"The game is not complete garbage..." He's right. The lipstick on the pig is a beautiful shade of ruby red. Very nice lipstick. Focus on the lipstick.

[@MrAlwaysRight]

Pigs don't wear lipstick.

[@AtrumRes]

The comment of "Would you hook up with a 6" isn't fair. As it's a 6 for $70 when there's a dozen 8-10's right next to her and cost as much if not less.

[@TechProFury]

True and Better analagy... and you know you are gunna spend 40 hours with it too

[@KnownAsKenji]

Dragon Age vs. that guy she tells you not to worry about.

[@jthen8454]

It is a 6 that doesn't respect you as a person

[@faidzeelhisyamhattar2133]

I agree that DA: V is a 6 over 100.

[@rm9346]

Holocure is an 8. It is free. It is also about to add an update/expansion. Free

[@Brumizona]

Scoring it higher than Wukong should come with a criminal investigation

[@draculathevampire934]

Its better than wukong has way better gameplay and quality graphics

[@Deluzia]

???​@@draculathevampire934

[@jashirei7581]

​@@draculathevampire934 in what fucking world

[@kentuckymafia1610]

@@draculathevampire934 Right because graphics trumps gameplay and story unless this is sarcasm then I dunno Wukong has some good graphics.

[@zhivix8263]

@@draculathevampire934 youre just wrong bro

[@randya430]

We went from blood magic to woke push-ups.

[@zhongliimpact6220]

Isabella went from insulting everyone's moms to apologizing for pronouns bs ....

[@aSSGoblin1488]

blood magic from dao was so epic... the narrative and story was engaging

[@Dillon6767]

Do they know that working out is conservative and misogyny😮. lol

[@stephanmarcouxdrums4877]

@@aSSGoblin1488 Absolutely, and what about the unforgettable music, lip sync, voice acting with the right tone, the right delivery, and the maturity of everything from the colour palette to those numbers to spend in Strenght, Dex and so on. In fact, that's the very first game where I did feel the 17+ Mature wasn't only because of violence or blood but also because of the intention behind the script with heavy topic like dead children, traitors killing your father and your mother staying with him, and other stuff like retreating instead of charging to help the king, letting him die to take the throne.

[@DarkSun123456789]

@@Dillon6767 You forget that these people don't think that far, as they go by rules for thee, but not for me and hence have already forgotten that it is supposed to be toxic.

[@ZayecValentine]

The difference between a movie that’s just fine and a game that’s just fine is a game cost more than a movie ticket and it takes more of my time than a movie. So a fine game isn’t in my interest unless it’s on sale and I got nothing else to do.

[@Grentain]

I own several good games that cost less than the price of a movie ticket.

[@jessegimenez5480]

Especially when there a pretty fair amount of games that exceptional that you can easily spend hundreds if not thousands of hours in.

[@nocturnal101ravenous6]

that is a good point, a game is only a good value if the game itself is good enough.

[@Lark88]

The lead dev worked on The Sims before DA:V. When I found this out, a lot of things including the art direction made so much sense.

[@Danjuul7552]

wow is this why all the character interactions feel so robotic?

[@Yankijs24]

Hahah wow, yesterday, when i first saw the horrors of this game, i said exactly that - it reeealy looks like a action Sims game 😂

[@Ozzystrayroo]

wait, wait, wait, they use someone from Maxis game studio to be project lead on a bioware game???? lmao....okay this is hilariously funny move from EA

[@ragnarok6521]

Now the dialogue makes sense huh 🤣

[@leila13dnd]

Yeah that does put things into perspective.

[@TundraCrow]

Dorian from Dragon Age inquisition had to my memory a far more interesting and well done expression of how him being gay was an issue to his family wanting him to procreate to keep refining the magical power he has into another generation. What I like about him is that he doesn't open up about this until your good friends with him and he doesn't outright bluntly say he is gay. He isn't written like his sexual orientation is his whole identity nor his personality. Its a part of him that gives depth to his character on how that conflict is implemented.

[@angeluslul2118]

Really good example of a well writen character, so true.

[@SonosAzai]

Like that pirate captain from the black sails, it wasn't the dudes whole existence

[@pasindudinusha6507]

This is quite true. It makes you understand his issue as a friend and help him out. This is what I see as positive inclusion. It makes other people understand these issues. Instead, they decided to include lectures for players as if they are better than everyone.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Well said, thank you.

[@abra4662]

Easiest solution: trisal

[@Type2Productions]

Veilguard is inclusive of everyone but Dragon Age fans

[@VaffReverie]

lol

[@samuelweimer9396]

The best comment I have seen on videos about it was along the lines of "If you are a reviewer this could be a10, if you are a casual this is about a 7, if you're a gamer that doesn't really play the other DA games this is a 5 or 6 and if you are a Dragon Age fan this is maybe a 2" and as a DA fan this makes a ton of sense.

[@ginacirelli1581]

And women.

[@Tfox-n6g]

I'm a dragon age fan and I love the game.

[@yumri4]

Pretty much you have game reviewers and streamers who bought it the rest probably are or were Dragon Age fans. As the combat is boring to watch the streamer has to talk over it. All the game reviews either have glowing reviews of it or basically say the story sucks and different takes on the game play due to their personal takes in how the mix of God of War with Mass Effect is. They pushed away their fans with taking out the before story and making their fans know that they did. The game itself if a stand alone game would most likely flop. Now that it has to make back millions of USD to just pay for itself it is a failure.

[@Amcor09]

"It runs well" exciting stuff.

[@TheorycrafterTV]

When was the last time you heard "bug free", "great port" and "crash-free" about any RPG to date?

[@franktulip1340]

Bad dialogue is a dealbreaker, especially for an RPG

[@luenetikgamer6313]

If they would just let us eliminate Taash, the game's dialogue would improve tenfold.

[@mattharrington4838]

It's what made red dead 2 so good for me. Literally riding a horse to a mission listening to them talk to each other was amazing.

[@aaroncisneros147]

AI dialogue era

[@Fxrrxt2x]

​@@luenetikgamer6313 I'm beginning to associate a lot of the problems that this game has with that character. She's just at the forefront of all of it

[@nxblnxbl]

It is more like Drag Age

[@thelordzenkai]

I personally think if an rpg fails in writing it fails at its concept as a rpg

[@WereCatStudio]

I would agree with you but then I remembered that Two Worlds exists. It's probably one of the worst written RPG but the gameplay was so solid I played trough the game multiple times.

[@mustafaozturk2542]

@@WereCatStudio Gameplay is just an artistic choice to tell a story. After all, every game tries to tell a story in the end. An RPG game should be criticized for its storytelling before the gameplay. Every RPG game needs to fulfill a threshold for storytelling before cherry-picking other things.

[@avarion9538]

I agree. Imo with RPGs, the story comes first. With f.e. an RTS, the gameplay is more important than f.e. the campaign, but imo RPGs are mostely about the story.

[@DDracee]

@@mustafaozturk2542 you technically don't need a story to play a role, that's why anything with build variety falls into rpg since you can play the role of a tank or healer or whatever from a pure gameplay perspective, and in order to give weight to such roles, the gameplay needs to shine etrian odyssey has no story whatsoever and it's still one of my favorite rpgs

[@Alexczy]

​@mustafaozturk2542 exactly this. Man, the alan wake and control games are just *cheff kiss* of story telling that also, have awesome gameplay

[@TropicaIJay]

Isn't this game supposed to take place in dark fantasy times? Had no idea it took place in California. I'm not interested in playing it

[@JoeBuddensNewport]

Snowflake

[@TropicaIJay]

​@@JoeBuddensNewportenjoy being preached to about current day gender stuff, in a game where dragons and magic exist

[@northudy1825]

@@TropicaIJay gay

[@TropicaIJay]

​@@northudy1825very

[@recur9245]

It's saints row :veilguard

[@NatMage]

The thing that angers me the most about the game is that when you select a dialogue option, YOU DO NOT SAY WHAT THE OPTION SAID. Rook either changes the wording to be different or just says something seemingly totally out of left field. It's maddening.

[@xxxxxxxxxx02]

Now we are praising games when they “run well”? “Product works” is just the baseline.

[@themightycrixus1131]

For real. That is expected when you buy a game. That is bare minimum

[@bibby3027]

to be fair i think he was just looking for something nice to say and that’s all he could come up with 😂

[@Dr.DisrespectFan918]

The micro-transactions work bro 10/10

[@djsharp5753]

try to think a little, and this is a valid line of review for a modern RPG.

[@Berstich]

Yes, this is actually very rare now.

[@Nomicro4u]

19:52 "But if you are playing for the immersion, for the immersive dialog..." Isn't that kind of important for a *ROLE PLAYING GAME?*

[@Silentheaven89]

they removed the RP from RPG and just made a game......thats bad. its an action game.

[@alejandrotorresriquelme8714]

Immersion implies consistency in the world building, not bringing the real world inside a game

[@TheBodiesInTheWaterBeckons]

Typical Cohh. Fence sitting till there's a perpetual hemorrhoid.

[@sol-hunter2332]

@@YOURDADSNEPHEW That sounds self-obsessed. I'm a gay traditional christian, I don't care if I'm represented.

[@TheBodiesInTheWaterBeckons]

​@@YOURDADSNEPHEWthat's a roundabout way to say you're narcissistic, but okay.

[@SerJollyGuy]

DA: Origins 18+ DA2 18+ DA: Inqusition 16+ DA: Vailguard 12+

[@bosco_bosco]

I dont think 12 year olds should be allowed to play this game.

[@variaxi935]

​@@bosco_bosco agreed

[@papyrus9761]

DA: Veilguard lgbtqai+

[@SerJollyGuy]

@@papyrus9761 🤣

[@SerJollyGuy]

@@bosco_bosco nor should we, adults

[@loganblaze2164]

Asmongold's way of being honest yet brash is gold bro lol.

[@Reikuma-X]

“it’s fine for what it is” no it’s not. What it is, is a dragon age game which historically were RPG’s with choice, consequence, world building and great dialogue. This game has none of that.

[@ImperatorZed]

Dragon Age was dumbed down Baldur's Gate from the start

[@Nammjahtan]

@@ImperatorZed DA2 and Inquisition sure. Origins was not dumbed down Baldur's Gate.

[@CheeseOfMasters]

@@Nammjahtan Yeah the initial setting was really fresh, it was much more like a LotR game in that sense with a much darker edge.

[@sd5919]

@@ImperatorZed Dragon Age was medieval fantasy KOTOR and it was fine. Veilguard is so bad that it feels like fanfiction.

[@coreymiller7317]

It has all of that. But, after playing through the entire story what was it that bothered you the most? Which decision did you want to make that you couldn't, specifically, after playing the game as you clearly have?

[@neoharmoniagropius1426]

Reminder that Monster Hunter Wild is still Beta Early not actual Full game that already hit over 400k player

[@thehashslaingingslasher]

Monster Hunter wilds is a good game though.

[@alejandromacarthy7249]

Yep and many players avoided it to not get spoiled, it will for sure reach 1m+ on release.

[@zhongliimpact6220]

Yeah I played the beta it's great. I will 100% buy it

[@lawz7787]

​@@alejandromacarthy7249not sure what you could get spoiled on when 80% of the game is spent on hunting monsters

[@chaddrusso8850]

Played early on my ps5 and preordered it on my series x it’ll be game of the year 2025.

[@StevenLeeStudios]

Dragon age is suppose to be bloody and brutal. Now its a woke simulator.

[@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_]

facts

[@RabbiRegan]

they cut everything dark/special out of all the characters until they are all just happy go lucky adventures that are Allies, in more way than 1.

[@jerrikhead8045]

Stopped being bloody and brutal as the games went on . No dragon age is exactly the same each tries something new maybe this one didnt land for u .

[@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_]

@@jerrikhead8045 then the game should not be a dragon age from start it should be different lol.. every dragon age series always keep the traditional dark bloody etc.. fight..

[@ezman141]

Facts

[@Silverslate]

16:40 didn't go hard enough. you need to additionally get a cutscene presenting the fish vendor at all angles once you're 30 feet away from it, which ends with a slow zoom out to your location. Then you click through dialogue of your allies pointing and yelling "Hey we found it! The Fish Vendor!" before running to the vendor, which you additionally have to watch until they reach it, turn to you and begin a beckoning animation on loop. The bow on top is you are then locked into the 50 foot radius around the vendor by an invisible wall which prompts your allies to yell again until you interact with the vendor.

[@matyasborecky5835]

I feel like that's why Origins is such a cult-classic, the game sets in stone that the world is fucked and sometimes you gotta do fucked up stuff to save it, even if the people of that world are selfish and couldn't care less. That was the whole point. Yet Veilguard goes on and on about personal issues during a world ending calamity. Man... I really wanna see what Veilguard characters would say to Sten 🤣 (I feel like Sten would just straight up decapitate like 5 of them right off the bat)

[@apollo-3744]

Sten gets pissed when you do anything that isn't directly dealing with the darkspawn, If a whole village is about to butchered by undead and you say you'll help he'll call it a waste of time. Can you imagine his reaction at that dining table scene where the DA:V characters all talk about needing to solve their personal issues first instead of fighting gods?

[@ddenozor]

Yeah DA:O and DA1 was dark and bleak, you truly felt the world isn't safe and end is coming. Meanwhile there were still politics at play which felt very natural.

[@Thesakuraharona]

Yeeeeesh

[@matyasborecky5835]

@@ddenozor Exactly but it feels like the conflict is very natural and the politics are more about what's to come after that whole ordeal is dealt with. That is the whole concept of the mage tower conflict "Sure we can use them, they are powerful, but what do we do once they get a taste for freedom?"

[@shadowmage661]

100% what I said. The original journals horrebdous things that happened to the captives. In this age, they would have a blaring trigger warning on the screen if they even dared to write it.

[@content7671]

You know the game is ass when people start defending it with "it runs ok" and "the voice acting is good"

[@squaresided]

frog in a slowly boiling pot

[@coreymiller7317]

This game is more than worth it's dollar value and the fact that so many people are saying it isn't is exactly why the gaming industry is so fucked. You want something that appeases EVERYBODY you have to go the marvel route. Everyone is asking for something that caters to the loud million that are here that played the original but they need to sell 5 million to even break even. We gamers, as a whole, make this all literally impossible.

[@saltiney8578]

@@coreymiller7317 exactly game companies need to scale it back and just make moderate budget games that appeal to their smaller niche audiences but REALLY appeal to them, and just make a lot more games for differnet people instead of trying to make one game for a billion dollars that has to appeal to every person on the planet to make a profit. Like the thing that sucks if you are a dragon age origins fan is you want more dragon age, not whatever this is, If they want to make this why do they need to take an existing IP just make a new game world to set it in, no reason to take my dark grim fantasy game and totally change it.

[@HachuneMiku01]

A waste of voice actors' time really, but at least they get paid

[@Wizardi1111]

Keep in mind, "it runs fine" on a high end streamers gaming pc lol Imagine what it's like for the rest of the people

[@kyledouglascox]

This game would be DOA if it didn't have the Dragon Age brand attached to it. Change my mind

[@casualcausalityy]

You're right, but they'll still lose millions on this

[@EpiCnAt3]

This isn’t the BioWare we grew up with. After the Anthem disaster it was way more obvious.

[@Sitri115]

@@EpiCnAt3 Anthem? Nah it was obvious ever since Mass Effect Andromeda.

[@gorgeouszan]

Yea, agreed. The only thing that's keeping it's head above water is it's name.

[@xWhackoJacko]

still is WITH the DA brand, lmao

[@mosj9876]

FAns: We *ARE* excited for another DragonAge Bioware: Just make sure you pay close attention to our handfisted , banged over your head, messaging while you play so you wont be a bigot, ok? Fans: We *WERE* excited for another DragonAge

[@pinkdevil019]

God dang it. Imagine buying a game whose intention is to lecture you, treat you as a child and that you're wrong and sinful and a horrible person. The whole shit is really annoying at this point.

[@johnrodgers8457]

Dude looks like regular sized Peter Dinklage.

[@PhantomGardener]

And?

[@yagimii]

Nah, that's destiny.

[@JailBo-id7ko]

Tallion Largister

[@dallinjc3]

​@@yagimii 💀

[@verro9953]

I can't unsee this now, thanks I guess

[@ERRoRsLand]

Dora The Explorer level dialogue

[@TheExile1138]

Back pack, back pack. What’s inside? A map, what’s a map do? It tells us where to go!!! Yay! We know what to do!!!

[@ARandomLetterA]

Nah, its more Neil Breene movie level dialogue.

[@angelofiron4366]

​@@TheExile1138lol

[@ColdMarty]

Mickey's clubhouse

[@lochlannach7]

It does feel like that with the way some characters speak to you when you solve a puzzle or do whatever nonsense in the game, it's so annoying. It's like the game is trying to maintain a perpetual safe space so the player always feels comfortable and cheered up, unless it's time for a lenghty lecture about misgendering others.

[@ObserverDoel]

My favorite tv shows are the older Star Trek shows. I consider myself a progressive person. I am genuinely dismayed by this trend in "modern writing." Star Trek ( which is I think a really great example for this kind of thing ) didn’t just pay lip service to hot-button topics; it dived deep, presenting multifaceted issues that encouraged viewers to see things from multiple perspectives. Rarely did it present a simple "right answer." Characters often wrestled with their choices, questioned their own ethics, and faced the unknown consequences of their actions, They sometimes made the right choice, they sometimes made the wrong choice, and often times they didn't even know if they ended up helping or damaging a situation by implicating themselves. This exploration of moral ambiguity wasn’t just storytelling, it was a model of progress. It showed that growth, both for individuals and societies, comes from questioning biases, grappling with complex issues, and seeking understanding beyond easy answers. It's not like they got everything right and in retrospect many aspects of those shows have aged poorly, but they're still FAR more relevant and thought provoking today when compared to all this "new stuff" that supposedly tries to explore some of the same topics. In my opinion at least, both discourse around these topics in general and writing for "modern audiences" more specifically have completely regressed. There's no discussion anymore, there's only promotion and mostly from people who are really really bad at marketing.

[@tihonannenkov4114]

Doctor Who is an another example. (Not the newer two or so seasons though!)

[@MrPutin-e7v]

Politically motivated

[@ObserverDoel]

@@MrPutin-e7v Star Trek, Dune, and countless classics are politically motivated, yet remain impactful and beloved. The issue with many modern projects isn’t their social themes-it’s that today’s writers often lack the depth and respect for their audience that made earlier works so compelling. Instead of approaching complex ideas thoughtfully, they tend to come across as ideologues who assume audiences need lecturing rather than inspiration, leading to narratives that feel shallow and condescending.

[@Mr__Chicken]

Well said. Star trek tng especially was so good. I think some episodes have touched on things that no other TV show has.

[@ObserverDoel]

@@Mr__Chicken Yes, with nuance and respect to both the topics and the audience.

[@theohadz7118]

When they say "it runs well" as the #2 reason they like it, you KNOW it's bad

[@rebirthofgodrics907]

Sometimes games with big ambitions can end up having bad performance like cp2077 but they are good games with bad optimization I can wait to play those. Meanwhile something like veilguard can run at 500 fps 24 k I ain't touching that crap. Performance is important so that you can have a smooth experience is not a selling point if the game is trash.

[@georgeporgy7568]

It doesn't run well watch Asmongold play it and see it stutter constantly. Of course it's day one so yea that's going to happen.

[@bryanmerel]

He sounded like he is simply strugling to mention positive things about the game just for the sake of it. 😂

[@deenman23]

na these days thats a plus,even the best games end up having performance issues on launch,this game works great,reminds me of dead island 2,i was amazed how well that game ran day 1 with its insane graphics

[@Roboticus_Prime_RC]

Superman 64 ran well.

[@RPRsChannel]

*_They have announced there will be no DLC._* *_Hmmm.....that is odd._*

[@epope98]

Not really Andromeda, that fps Ironman ish game didn't get dlc cause they flopped. EA is price to dropping games if it flops

[@Elite_Gamer_1337]

acting like its a strong, positive move is wild. we all know why brand new games have to announce no DLC.

[@TalZadios]

​@@epope98it's sarcasm.

[@haueinif.l.4448]

they know...

[@jamesr1757]

⁠@@epope98andromeda was bad because it literally did not function on release and they don’t have the balls or talent to pull a cyberpunk but it was a decent and long fun experience once it worked correctly it didn’t need a dlc you paid 60 and got a long full game the problem arose when the game literally did not work

[@TheCheshireTree]

You don't talk about AIDS in a fantasy game to raise awareness to real world problems. Good writing is making it some kind of magic plague and touch the subject in a subtle way, not saying out loud "use condoms" in a CRPG about high fantasy.

[@feircy]

"Use magic condoms" Nailed it

[@delnagasktruman7241]

I agree with you, but its been happening for years in video games. People pushing philosophies and morality in games, movies, etc. If you learn certain code words you can basically figure out the agenda of any game/media within 40% of its content.

[@Airbender131090]

He else would you appeal to 12-14 year old girls. ? The game is made for them

[@Danbotology]

_"Winners don't use hormone blockers."_

[@xavierhouston4650]

That’s just as dumb.

[@theprice1000]

It’s like in an old sit com where everything pauses and the main character starts trying to teach you a life lesson

[@Ven0mLp]

How to Ban "LGBTQ+" Tag in your Steam Store 1. Click my Store top left 2. Hover over "Your Store" (where the search bar is) in the middle 3. Select "Preferences" 4. Scroll Down to "Tags To Exclude" add "LGBTQ+" 5. I am doing my part 🙂

[@nerddotcom5817]

Bro, reply to me so i can come back to this wisdom nugget!

[@yunusgokcen174]

​@@nerddotcom5817here

[@madness8897]

I've done my part. Do it for me too bitte

[@yunusgokcen174]

@@madness8897 You're welcome

[@maxchen9185]

What games would even have this tag? Could you please give some examples I'm really just curios. 😅

[@labinot1565]

I love a dark fantasy game in a world far away while is set on a Californian College campus

[@MajinPorunga]

Don't trust anyone that reviews a game and has been sponsored by the game creators.

[@lawrencehaynes6408]

Don't trust anyone with such a basic thought process 😂😂

[@evgeniydeus8137]

@@lawrencehaynes6408 Don't trust anyone.

[@sirnicholibraden86]

​@@lawrencehaynes6408An intelligent thought process? Why are you viewing content you literally hate-watch? Seems like an even worse thought process.

[@ian8477]

Exactly this. I don't trust any kind of celebrity endorsement in an ad either. They're paid, one way or another, to do it and read the script they've been given.

[@David_randomnumber]

You can still trust them you just have to keep in mind that they got sponsored and think a little bit more about what they say. Even the worst shills will tell you if the game is bad but they will hide the message.

[@redrickashwood3564]

Playing Inquisition really helps with liking the characters. Solis, Verick, Morrigan, all of them are so much more flushed out in the prior game. "also the design is less Raid Shadow Legends"

[@SuperDarknut]

The writers are so allergic to metaphor and allegory that they couldn't bare to not use the exact same modern terms for this crap. Like any level of abstraction and they were terrified people wouldn't get it

[@grocam3]

funny foreshadowing, Metaphor (the game) is well written and uses medieval language.

[@VitaminPete616]

I farted

[@ionseven]

Because they aren't actual writers. They don't have anything to say nor growth-building life experiences that have tempered them into spiritually strong individuals. Overgrown teens still stuck in college.

[@alejandrotorresriquelme8714]

This game was made by the HR team. It got its hands so deep inside the development team that they could use each worker as the muppets. (Edit) Now that I think about it, they did...

[@AG-sj4om]

And they can’t think of anything else to write other than themselves because they’re completely narcissistical

[@protator]

"If you take it for what it is ..." says everything you need to know. All the blabla afterwards is just Carnage trying to stay EA's good side somehow.

[@mck_21]

DA: Origins was the start and peak of the franchise 😢

[@MisterGreenw00d]

This truly is a shame. I spent hundreds of hours on this game and never played any of the sequels 😂

[@TsuneoMai]

@@MisterGreenw00d i actually think inquisition was quite genius to keep the core system while making you focus more on your main character. since you did not have to pause select healer select tank heal him but instead you could hard code if character below 25% -> heal him. that actually was good for immersion and if needed you could still pause and select healer and heal whoever you wanted. or select mage to sleep one and then do a fireball. now thats all gone. you dont even have a tank anymore or cc. and they only have 3 SPELLS WITH SHARED CD ;D its just timeslow (like may payne) hack and slash get momentum kill 1 guy off rinse and repeat. so sad.

[@TheShadowHatter]

DA: O is the ONLY game in the franchise

[@samuelmiller1936]

It really fuckin was It’s such a shame no one believed in the formula. It feels like baldurs gate just picked up where it left off But it’s 15 years later

[@ulisesroldan2955]

Bru I thought I was the only one, I’ve played this game hella and loved every second of it. It’s the only DA I’ve played and I’m glad

[@axyramariel7557]

I haven't yet understood the point of leveling up a hero. Well, that is, in the Inquisition you take a lvl 1 mage and put it next to a lvl 30 mage and see the difference, far beyond “just higher stats” - their gameplay is very different. In Veilguard... I sometimes forgot that I had skill points - 3-4 in my stash, because they just don't do anything! "Oh, I have +15% penetration... Oh, + 20% damage to armor/barrier... Oh, +10% damage with light attacks to HP... OOO! New skill! Cool! Oh, it damages like 3 attacks... Clear. And at the same time, it costs so much mana that I can only use it once every 30 sec... So I’ll use it once every 48 sec, according to my partner’s cooldown, like a detonator - so at least you can see the damage.” The whole combat reveals itself in the first hour, then it’s just an increase in numbers... And the fact that some battles turn into running circles around the arena from the boss (because he’s an asshole targeting you and he doesn’t care about immortal allies and aggro - because he’s the boss) while waiting for skill cooldowns is such a disgrace. And nothing stops you from running away - no stamina, immortal companions, endless healing, resources too... Such nonsense.

[@Bro-dot-]

Skill issue, if you think immortal companions is a bad design then my god never make a critic on design choices in games again. If companions could die it would be near unplayable.

[@axyramariel7557]

@@Bro-dot- Tell us about the “unplayability with vulnerable companions” of BG3, Inquisition, etc.

[@Bro-dot-]

@@axyramariel7557 Tell us about this game sharing those games combat? Especially BG3 which is so far apart, Are you blind or actively being ignorant, for a A (which stands for action) RPG like this game if the companions went down it would create several design issues that would harm the rest of the systems. This game is more action player focused like a GOW and the combat isn’t about a party making combat strategies but YOU and your support companions. Your companions aren’t built around themselves but you, the abilities they posses even support abilities are reserved for you to build around. Just look at the combat, especially bosses, there is little to no time within combat to help a down companion. It’s way too fast paced for that, it would ruin the whole flow of the combat. Inquisition while very different from BG3 did have companions that would down but all the classes in that game were pretty poorly balanced that they were pretty much immortal anyway unless you had no clue what you were doing. Ive played that game several times even on nightmare and only unless you have trials or are above hard do they really die. Automatic shielding and magic bubbles every 10 seconds + revive, your inquisitor even more immortal that combat becomes dull mostly on warrior unless you unbind armor skills/block …. + don’t tell me it wasn’t tedious chore picking up teammates mid combat with the clunky movement. Also your point on running circles doesn’t make sense when there are plenty CC abilities and taunts you can set up, even mechanics within attack and Heavy attack chains that give openings. Are you just auto attacking and running away?

[@axyramariel7557]

@@Bro-dot- Heavy attacks, yeah - you just forgot to clarify that while you are performing them, you get hit in the head by other mobs, and even if your attack is not knocked down (there is 1 legendary item for this) - you lose a lot of HP, at least on the penultimate difficulty So. And about the CC for bosses - tell me more, otherwise my bosses didn’t care about aggro/freezing, etc. They don’t feel anything less than a combo at all.

[@jeffcardwell1800]

@@Bro-dot- was the first game unbeatable lol

[@MrLonelybusiness]

"As a dragon age, it is consistent" are you kidding me, this is a shit taken on violated corpse of Dragon Age origins

[@saltiney8578]

Just let go DA origins was one good game, we all enjoyed it and then every other DA game has been shit, this is the 4th one, the 2nd one was a lot worse than da 1, the third one was turbo shit, and now the 4th one is a complete dumpster fire its unfortunate but who cares did anyone really think DA4 would be like origins and be a great rpg with good writing and story again I sure didnt never had any hope, big companies games only ever get worse they never get better, They release good games for a time then they just get worse and worse as they get bigger. Reminds me of all the WOW fans like vanilla is fun, TBC is less fun, WOTLK is even less fun then its all shit pretty much after that yet people continue to buy every expansion and pretend its good for a month then quit.

[@JaxJax2x]

Dragon: I identify as a lizard. Don't assume my gender. Give me 10 pushups.😂😂😂

[@Kandisz_nora]

@@saltiney8578 Origins was great. I would die on the hill of DA2 still being somewhat good because of the story and characters. Inquisition was BORING. I'm playing Veilguard right now and it is just as okayish as DA2 was. More linear than Inquisition but faster paced as well. The only thing which is unfortunate is that Veilguard was clearly made for a younger audience than the previous games. This is apparent in the dialogue the most. Everybody loves everybody, no bullying, no dressing down for fucking up, etc. Just good old fashioned American optimism.

[@Tabriel01312]

Sir i reget to inform you but DA:O was violated and shat on so many times you cant even see the corpse at this point

[@CyrusIsnt]

It terms of the lore its consisent.

[@danielhavoc889]

Dragon Age Veilborn, as apposed to Dustguard.

[@j-money753]

​@RonnieMcnutt-z8o i did

[@Itsdeejayjay]

Dragon Age Dustguard cracks me up lol

[@kukipett]

From what i have seen the woke is not the problem in this game but the writing and the dialogue.

[@3adgamd3r]

@RonnieMcnutt-z8o who asked you?

[@gregorymorse8423]

You mean Drag Age Failguard?

[@TweakedCast]

man...when did making games for normal people become "taking risks"

[@ShxpxRok]

The moment corps started firing regular people 😂

[@dzinx0rrr]

the biggest risk they took was when they decided to make it a woke game.

[@vxxiii4160]

That's not even the problem, the pandering and the bad writing is what turns everyone off.

[@Sakattack2023]

You’re so close man. I can’t wait till you guys realize these people are religious zealots.

[@Khorn1996]

​@@Sakattack2023common dev or writer? Maybe. But execs are just ESG funds junkies

[@nocturnal101ravenous6]

Turn Based RPG Games worth playing - Arcanum, Baldur's Gate 1+2+3, Divinity Original Sin 1+2, Dragon Age Origins, Dungeon Siege 1+2, Dark Sun Shattered Lands, Eliminage Gothic, Eye of the Beholder 1+2+3, Pools of Radiance 1+2, GloomHaven, Icewind Dale 1+2, Neverwinter Nights 1+2, Pathfinder Kingmaker, Pillars of Eternity 1+2, Planescape Torment, Little Witch Academia Chamber of Time, Solasta Crowm of the Magistar, Menzoberranzan, Ravenloft Strahd's possession, Ravenloft Stone Profit, Might and Magic X, Battletech, Shadowrun Returns+Dragonfall+Hong Kong, Knights of the Old Republic 1+2, Shin Megami Temsei Digital Devil Saga 1+2+3+4+5, Persona 3+4+5, DDS Devil Summoner 1+2, Final Fantasy 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10, Yakuza like a Dragon, South Park Fractured but whole+Stick of truth, Valkryia Chronicles, Trials of Mana+Zestria+Vesperia+berseria, Secret of mana, Scarlet Nexus, Resonance of Fate, Parasite Eve, The last Remnant, Soul Hackers 2, Chrono Trigger Good luck asmongold there are a ton of great turn based RPGs to get lost in.

[@kirayoshikage1095]

You forgot Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth 😅

[@nocturnal101ravenous6]

@@kirayoshikage1095 Left that out because of the PC debacle

[@andyelliott3198]

Carnage defending mediocrity breeds more mediocrity, it's not helping anyone. It's a 4 below average it is not a fine 6!

[@vergillives9890]

He might lose that access-

[@OneWayTwoBrazil]

It’s a 6!/10! -game- mandatory hr training cutscene

[@Fr00stee]

by definition average is mediocre, something that is mediocre can't be below average. So at best it deserves a 6.

[@MrEvans1]

​@@Fr00stee 6 is above avg. 4.5 to 5 is average.

[@filipe5585]

@@MrEvans1 so 4.5 is also not average

[@neonthehedgehog12]

"If you can ignore the bad parts then you have a pretty enjoyable game" You can say that about any game, what type of review even is this? He's trying really hard to say everything, BUT "it was bad"

[@oompalumpus699]

"His review of Veilguard is pretty much this: If you got handed a plate of food with shit sprinkled over, it is fine! You just need to eat the parts of the meal that do not have shit."

[@15thobserver]

He did mention at the beginning of his opinion video that the first 2 hours of his stream were sponsored. So gee, I wonder why he is dancing around that particular conclusions? It couldn't be the glaringly obvious.

[@JackHugeman]

He literally did a sponsored stream of the game.... He was payed by EA and is now afraid of biting the hand that feeds him.

[@kristen8701]

It's not a review it is a thoughts video about the game. He literally says it at the start of the video.

[@kristen8701]

@@JackHugeman Cohh has trashed games that have paid him to play them before. I know everyone that doesn't think the exact same things as you is a shill but he has a track record of having integrity with his thoughts videos even with sponsorships.

[@Daniele-PierreDuLac]

You know a game is trash when there’s no R34 of it

[@vergillives9890]

Like Concord-

[@PaulKrawitz94]

Meanwhile, the Vatican mascot child on Rule34...

[@rotunel7677]

hell yea

[@A-Rather-Dubious-Character]

for your opinion. Thanks​@RonnieMcnutt-z8o!

[@WellWisdom.]

Facts.

[@Boogra]

"Runs well..." So now we get cookies for doing our job?

[@SavantPete]

Dragon Aged like milk

[@s3m4jno5w4d]

Unfortunately so

[@recur9245]

I'm glad I didn't accidently drink it

[@Texansfan59]

Dragon gay

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

Dragquen Age, The fail guard. Will be remember in the gaming story has the most woke garbage ever.

[@eeWMan]

it was born a boy then transitioned later in life.

[@Anakox]

This game is a good example of how people who are horrible at writing and storytelling can parasite on top of people who know how to code.

[@bread22]

He tried really hard not to say that the game is actually mostly garbage

[@libervitaexaltis4551]

And keep in mind this dude is a hardcore dragon age fan. He had said before hand he'd give it a huge benefit of the doubt just because it's dragon age. Mostly it's cope.

[@Tyrbris]

As his good friend Zeke said, Cohh liking something isn't exactly high praise.

[@yotuel9064]

Cohh always try to stay positive. We will see what he says at the end of the game. He is on nightmare difficulty and the combat it's such a slog.

[@adrianreichelt7057]

@@yotuel9064 Nah, Matty was wrong on this one, as are most people. In Nightmare currently (I went custom, kept Nightmare settings, but turned down vulnerability of enemies) unless your Build is shit or you are spending 0 resources actually upgrading your Gear and Workshop (which you almost do passively if you do even surface level exploring), Nightmare mobs die pretty quickly, to the point where it'd be like having cheatcodes on in normal. The only exception is Mage, Mage is slow af to get going. But on Rogue, going Bleed/Necrosis Status build, shit is dying left and right, combat doesn't usually last more than a minute if a boss is involved. Cohh probably just plays Mage or has a really sucky rogue or warrior build going on.

[@sd5919]

The game won't have any legacy like the previous DAs. However good its gameplay is it's still an RPG. This isn't Devil May Cry. People are here for the story and if the writing sucks that's a failure. Cohh is trying to be nice here but this isn't a situation where every factor is weighed equally.

[@denusklausen3685]

Writers need to keep the immersion or as they call it, the suspension of disbelief. An immersive roleplaying game set in a fantasy medieval world can definitely tackle social issues, even ones that are relevant today but they HAVE to stay immersive. Here are some ideas I could think of quickly: you could tackle gender roles by having the player empathize with a witch that is ostracized from the village you're protecting. You could tackle body dysmorphia by featuring a character like a druid or other morpher that struggles with identity issues from changing their body too much. You could easily deal with class issues since these were ripe in medieval times. Hell, you could even make an issue of male desires if its done well enough. Everyone appreciates social commentary when its tasteful and done well. I think the new movie The Substance did that well. Other examples of media set in a different time than our own, teaching us valuable philosophy, are shows like Psycho-Pass and Vinland Saga. The problem with media that is done like this is the fact that it feels like there was some social issue that the writers wanted to convey and the rest of the story is just pretext...

[@jasonbruce208]

Agreed.

[@patrickps5592]

"Just buy it and see for yourself" Like naah bro, i identify as "non-buynary"

[@МаксимЦветков-г9ч]

Good one!

[@futavadumnezo]

Cooh is not a real one for saying that like what do you mean bro??

[@Bulgarian021]

I am non-buy-nary too ! :D

[@sharksdudes8445]

Nice

[@TENCHUSNAKE-]

Underrated comment...😂

[@zacmeadows2294]

I swear CohhCarnage is just two Peter Dinklages in a trench coat, nothing you can say will change my mind.

[@luxter858]

How in tf is this a 9/10 but BMW a 8/10? That biase is insane. If Wukong would have worn a skirt and identified as female monke it would be a 10/10 😂

[@UltimateEnd0]

Wukong is easily a 9 and this game is easily a 6 at best

[@oompalumpus699]

"Yep. If Wukong was a non-binary, trans Palestinian then Black Myth would have been GOTY for the game journalists."

[@theloanwolf5510]

@@UltimateEnd09 no 8 max

[@VladOSDGL]

I wouldnt give even 6 either games… just me tho

[@TungVoid]

@@theloanwolf5510 9.5 if you're from that part of Asia that watched Journey to the West as a child, like 7.5-8 if you're not.

[@chicagorunner85]

I appreciate reviewing of the plot. Especially Varric's cutscene at the end of a quest or the quest synopsis on the quest complete screen. This great for people with a horrible memory like myself or for people that skip the cutscenes entirely then complain about they don't know what's going on.

[@necasperaterent29386]

I will say this: This game caused me to install and play Inquisition again. I was definitely too harsh on that game. Bro, we didn't know how good we had it back then. 😒

[@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w]

we didn't know how spoilt we were back then.

[@Redcloudsrocks]

even inquisiton was a tad weak compared to many other fantasy games of the time, most jrpgs are darker and better written than just about every DA game

[@richardrahl2685]

I did the same thing!

[@STOPTHECLOWNS581]

Rather go back to play origins

[@maxchen9185]

Exactly what I did lmao

[@pdpgb]

I feel like everybody is trying to come up with reasons for why they don't like the game without mentioning the ugly character designs and overtly woke messaging that we don't agree with and don't want to see in our games. Probably because they don't want to be written off as bigots but it's like everybody is intentionally not talking about it.

[@RevyaAeinsett]

No? That's like, all anybody who isn't a shill is talking about? Literally everything up to the game's release was about how ugly it looks, and the past few days it's been nothing about how woke and terrible the dialogue is. The only people avoiding talking about those points are either the people that have already made those points and have more to criticize than just repeating those points, or the people that are trying to stay in Bioware's good graces, because they know the second the word "woke" leaves their mouth they'll be blacklisted.

[@fatalblue]

If someone dropped a fantasy game with super strong religious (ie: Christian) undertones and it was as poorly executed as many AAA games of late people would 100% be putting the blame on its heavy attempt to proselytize. No one would play this pussyfooting game of saying the problem w/o saying the problem lmao.

[@Senumunu]

all of these people are earning hundreds of thousands of dollars through advertisement deals that are made with corporations that are directly funded by ESG money be it Asmongold or Cohh Carnage. Over time the range of your expressions accommodates your social class.

[@Llewellyn2844]

I noticed the same thing. Nobody wants to acknowledge the fact that "Stellar Blade" conclusively proved that male AND female gamers want sexy, attractive characters. Even Nerdrotic and the gang rarely mention "Stellar Blade" whenever they're discussing homely characters like Kay Vess from "Star Wars Outlaws." I don't understand the reticence.

[@MWBalls]

I havent watched him in a while but i can tell you that some of the internet circles Cohh exists in probly would not appreciate him mentioning wokeness in a negative light.

[@UltimateEnd0]

"It's fine...it treats you like a child." Contradictory statements

[@Squeeble00]

Even as someone who used to watch him quite a bit, it's baffling to me that he can have all these criticisms and still dismiss anyone who looks at it and comes away thinking that it's garbage. ESPECIALLY when you compare it to Origins.

[@animelytical8354]

Nah. A 5/10 might treat you like a child. One might consider that fine. Edit: I mean Asmingold says it's a 6 for him. That fits the "Fine" description

[@Jet-ij9zc]

The guy asmon reacts to got sponsored to stream it (he said so himself at the start). He's catering his opinion to avoid losing future sponsorship

[@Zuchiniii]

@@Squeeble00 19:35 in his TLDR he says "[...] you can't hate on someone for not liking this game [...]" and later "[...] but It's also not valid to say the game is complete garbage [...]" And he is right. You might not like the game for various reasons and that is okay but just shitting on it and saying it's all pure garbage is just wrong. He is just more nuanced in his opinions than you are..

[@perry92964]

he is trying very hard not to say anything bad about the game because, as he said his stream was sponsored.

[@nokronis]

You could display some of these social issues and still keep it in a dark fantasy theme, but they have to be a lot more subtle and you have to be able to react to it in different and even negative ways for it to work. This game takes away any kind of critical thinking.

[@LostWallet]

reminder, this game is GOTY for many high profile Gaming Journalist

[@yunusgokcen174]

Game journalists don't make these game studio's money.

[@Collerz7]

@@yunusgokcen174 they do though. Lots of people don’t watch KZbin videos about what’s in the game, they just read reviews and think “wow this game must be awesome”. 70k on steam shows that, some say it isn’t amazing but I’m shocked it got that high for a game including such garbage.

[@jayhouston7054]

Yea Mortismal Gaming said it was GOTY so far.......

[@Ryutora8]

Everything can be GOTY if they pay enough

[@Quintessence4444]

Now guess who the jury is at the game awards.

[@DurkeyTheJellicleCat]

The Metaphor: ReFantazio vs Dragon Age VG comparison has been coming up a lot for me as well. If Metaphor ReFantazio is a famous Abraham Lincoln speech then Dragon Age VG is those teenagers throwing tomato soup on a Van Gogh to remind you that the planet is dying.

[@tomj819]

20mins of scrolling and finally I reach a comment with some level of accuracy, insight and wit to it...

[@thebridesons5516]

It's the downfall of modern game and movie dialog. Nothing is implied, inferred, or suggested. Literally everything is told to you in the most basic, plain word imaginable. It's like it was written by a child.

[@futavadumnezo]

Daaaaaam!

[@TheTexasDice]

One of the problems is that subtext and analogy is dead in modern writing. You have a fantasy setting, so why can't you make a story about say a character who was born with magic talent but who hates being a mage? it's a trait they were born with, but not a trait they enjoy about themselves. They would prefer to be a warrior instead, swinging swords around etc. This outline would hit the player way more than actually using the word "Trans" and "non-binary" in a medieval fantasy game.

[@DarkSun123456789]

Because they are incapable of abstract thinking. That is why they can't relate to characters that don't look like them and have the exact same views/problems/values.

[@FreerunningGamer]

It's not about good writing. It's about pushing their ideology.

[@JoshDragRace0688]

@@DarkSun123456789 mob mentality, they want to force it all onto us, when were all individuals with our own thoughts and feelings, they want us all to join the mob.

[@LegatusLucius2]

Neverwinter Nights 2 I think it takes place 200 years before Baldur's Gate 3 always going from one apocalypse to another

[@wisp6826]

I miss total biscuit. Its such a damn shame he passed.

[@scythelord]

total biscuit would be shitting on 95% of releases today.

[@Levis_Manifesto]

It's funny you say that becaue one of TB's buddies was a writer for this. Larua Kate Dale, was on many episodes of the Co-Optional podcast. I really wonder how TB would react seeing the current landscape.

[@Ya_Mosura]

Yeah, I liked TB but people forget he was pretty left leaning and had a bout of TDS, he'd probably be praising the messaging in this.

[@icelord6668]

Total biscuit is and always will be a legend simple as that people !!

[@j0nnyism]

Yea he was the only one I trusted. EA knocked him off prob

[@MrBeetsGaming]

You can tell the dude is afraid to just say what he actually thinks.....

[@gobs379]

So much dancing around the point because of all the push back of the common complaints. He has to clarify over and over that he's fine with anything remotely proximate to the ideological theming, that he can only criticize it in the most narrow way.

[@Senumunu]

he has been afraid for so long i dont think he has any negative thoughts left just a hollow shell that corps put in the window to interact with potential customers

[@elasmojones]

It's fine...Like when you show your girlfriend to your mom and she says, "She seems nice."

[@MrSyphen6]

You don't watch cohh then he's not afraid to say what he thinks.

[@Slashresto]

He is sponsored by EA/bioware so he can’t speak ill of the game because it’s part of his sponsorship deal. When you take a sponsorship, you have certain rules you have to follow one of them you cannot say anything about the game.

[@Lurker_Z]

Remember Cohh shilled _Starfail_ weeks after release. I do enjoy most of Cohh's playthroughs and respect his opinions, but when it comes to AAA bloat, I trust nothing coming out of his mouth. I will say at the very least he had the courage to say BG3 final arc was almost unplayable. Edit: Since this post is gaining traction, I'll also say that voice actors were terrible, California girl accent everywhere. How Cohh, who styles himself a connoisseur of voice actors, can say that VA were good only leads me to think he speaks out of corruption, not ignorance.

[@ciege7486]

100% on the voice actor point, and I swear the mouth movements are only even close to lined up like half of the time. Hell, plenty of times people will be talking in a cutscene and their lips just won't move at all.

[@echoesofmalachor3700]

I’ve only watch this game played. Overall the voice acting seems just terrible or completely phoned in(which is also terrible). All except Solas. Whoever voices him is talented.

[@Lurker_Z]

I swear, this is probably the first game ever (at the very least the first fantasy game) where I hear unapologetic California valley girl accents. This lack of professionalism or care for immersion is just so shameless. And they're asking $80 for this. I didn't think I'd ever say this, but between D4 and _Mobile Guard,_ I'd fork out the money for the former. It's not worth it, but I'd do it just to save me from this bloated mobile game. I'd choose even _Diablo Immortal_ over this.

[@brettmmontague]

You don't have to include the (EDIT) part redditor

[@Lurker_Z]

@@brettmmontague Eh thinking it's reddit-specific betrays that you're reddit-specific. I've seen it used on forums and other platforms too.

[@edwardnowakowski5990]

I’d like to see someone to modern-quip their way through the scene where Duncan kills a man for backing out of the grey wardens. Duncan: “there is no going back” *stab* MC: “well I think he got…. The point”

[@dabalolaa]

They turned the "This is a safe space" sign into a game.

[@von_reginald4800]

I don't need anyone to tell me not to buy this game

[@tompatompsson]

People telling me positive reviews aren't paid shills:

[@skyuru]

When a game is 10/10 it mean that its woke, its the rule that we know but yet people still believe in these sh*t.

[@Soltrex-Y]

The people that cope and say its a "good" game, just have their foot into the whole political DEI, forced diversity and biology issues. They cant say its bad because it would go against their braindead beliefs.

[@simon-vh7pk]

I did not get paid but like it

[@ClowdyHowdy]

​@@simon-vh7pk I'm glad that some people are immune to games that treat their audience like they're disabled. Glad you found a way to ignore the writing and characters because there's no way you're into whatever is coming out of their mouths.

[@Teo_live]

​@@simon-vh7pkthere is no shame in personally enjoying an objectively bad flop of a game.

[@Orion1205]

The real question is, with how big of a company bioware is how in the world did it get all the way through development being like this? Surely there were people throughout the company that were just cringe-facing super hard and being like there's no f-ing way this is a good idea wtf are we doing?....

[@dantespicysausage9615]

Veilborn, duskguard. Either way Monster hunter wild beta took it behind the shed like old yeller to the tune of nearly 7 times veilguards player base

[@editorrbr2107]

Bad comparison - Ole Yeller was selfless, beloved, and we cried when he got put down

[@dantespicysausage9615]

​@@editorrbr2107Johnny somali then

[@Salmon_Toastie]

Even with wilds poor performance atm it’s still generating more buzz than veilguard could dream of. If veilguard is on the top 6 for 2024 GOTY it’s a sham.

[@RemiSoren]

Remember in da1 you could make decisions that actually had consequences... i always gave that templar too that demon who pretended he had a family

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

Hespeth's poem in the Deep Roads is still one of the creepiest things I've ever heard in a video game.

[@mufasafalldown8401]

For real. He was happy with her why ruin it?

[@RemiSoren]

@@mufasafalldown8401 right!!! Look im not saying that it's ALWAYS right but them 2 they was genuinely happy 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Alistair was PISSED with me whereas morrigan 😏

[@RemiSoren]

@@MjollTheLioness-o4y OMG duuuude I had too google it cause I couldn't remember as soon as I saw her character model....... the brood mothers came flooding back , first they take us that one right *Shivers nah I can't even...... why oh WHY didn't they just remake that 😕 they could have fixed 2 and made inquisition better.....

[@mlsanders4800]

I won a copy of the PS5 version of this. It's still sealed. I'm never breaking the seal, and I'm not going to sell it or give it away. I'm not even going to throw it away. I don't want anyone playing this game.

[@futavadumnezo]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@ItsMrLee]

Ah the ET treatment. Let's find a landfill!

[@farenk8303]

Bless you But dont give it food after midnight

[@nathandrake9737]

I love it. Just throw it in the back of your closet, find it in 10 years, then throw it back.

[@DeShawnGreen2001]

drop it in the heart of a volcano

[@deyicon1983]

"It's a beautiful game." >Me: This thing looks like a spinoff of Kingdoms of Amalur.

[@MURPHYL28]

This guy looks like a Skyrim NPC

[@chriskoschik391]

Oblivion

[@yumri4]

Well Skyrim had to get their character designs some where. Still Skyrim had less but still better without mods character choices in my mind than Dragon Age Veilguard.

[@borismaric130]

no he is Cyberpunk NPC

[@hagaiak]

@@borismaric130 Be careful the aliens from Alpha Centauri might hear you! Don't snitch on Gary!

[@Xwap]

Shout out to Total Biscuit... Rest in peace legend

[@GlacierRain]

Total Biscuit was great

[@kokotzepesh7456]

I loved so much when in Dragon age Origins I had Morrigan, Alistair and Wynn and they had these hilarious, sweet and interesting conversations that made them and the world around so alive... Veilguard shits on it

[@jasonsantiago6308]

That and the tactical pause-act-pause team-oriented combat is the entire reason I was obsessed with Origins, and they got rid of both Why would I pay $70 for literally none of what I want

[@theimmoralcookie]

I watched this when he randomly decided to record it while streaming on his first KZbin stream 😃

[@06blackmetal]

Less players then Starfield at it's peak. Rip Bioware

[@maken15]

Than*

[@OnlyInhuman90]

Yeah but the saddest part is that unlike Starfield, Dragon age had a huge follow base and legacy . Rip

[@maxmillion7634]

​@@maken15because your woke fanboy

[@DatMikeDude]

​@@maxmillion7634you*re 😂😂😂 sorry I had too

[@eod8785]

​@@OnlyInhuman90 Not the first and the last time.

[@jimbomacroth3400]

The dialogue is about as convincing as Cohh's wig

[@Rellikan]

It's not a wig! It's a toupè!

[@Senumunu]

oh i had no idea. i was wondering.

[@DarkSun123456789]

@@Rellikan Hair system.

[@AlexKr.]

Remember Cohh was sponsored by EA

[@cyborggunslinger4230]

Yeah you can see how dead inside he was after those 8 painful hours. Gotta keep that sweet sweet sponsored money somehow

[@Infectedjohn]

Anyone who is a fan of oldschool dragon age who thinks this is not a piece of smelly garbage... honestly deserves the game. Good for them!

[@6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82]

the old dragon age game blew as well, origins is 'okk'