So, are BLACK HOLES the secret sauce of multiversal travel?

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[@KadenStaab]

And this is why you’re literally the best channel on YT. No clickbait. No nonsense. This is such an awesome theory!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Thanks!! Yeah, it's really cool how everything is fitting together so nicely!

[@KadenStaab]

@@AbitofEverything4U I hope this is true. I agree that Marvel using real science is awesome. I think Pedro is about to steal the show in the MCU. He’s going to be the one to figure out how we can build the army from the multiverse to beat Doom.

[@jeremymorris345]

I actually really respect Marvel for managing to keep the rules mostly consistent across different shows and movies.

[@covertTJ]

Marvel comics have always been grounded in real science theory to a much greater extent than DC. It's what I love. They take rule of cool liberties, but they're also real nerds.

[@john_comi]

What I wouldn't give for an hour long Disney Plus special where Reed, Loki, Beast, and Dr. Strange sit and explain the entire inner workings of the multiverse and time travel 😭😭😭 - I know most would find this boring, but I know I'd eat it up!

[@ItsJustBlakey]

I've learnt more about theoretical physics from the MCU and your videos than I ever did in school. With every project that comes out, I'm worried we'll see something that will completely unravel all our theories, but surprisingly they've been so consistent across so many different projects!! (more consistent than with their timeline, at times)

[@jalengy7629]

My go to place for marvel theories and conversation. I love that marvel uses real science (in some capacity) really fun stuff to imagine.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, it's pretty cool to see all these irl theories popping up in the MCU. Love it!

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[@AbitofEverything4U]

Well, hello there!

[@prometheusn0ir]

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[@eduardofranco8528]

One theory that I've been hearing A LOT about this movie is that the Fantastic Four is actually from the 616, they travel to space in the 60's, and went trought a rip in the fabric of reallity and went to this other universe, and that is what actually gave them their powers, so they got stuck in this other universe and that is why Reed is studying the multiverse, so they can come back to the 616, when you combine that with the theory that Galactus in the MCU eats Universes and not planets, maybe the Fantastic Four being stuck in this universe create and Incursion, and that is why Galactus is taggeting this earth... Maybe at the end the Fanstatic Four loses, the earth is destroyed, they come back to the MCU, and the Dr. Doom of this Universe blames the Fantastic Four for the destruction of his universe and wants revenge on the team and their Universe of origin, the 616.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I think that's a very cool theory and does work well with what we saw in the trailer!

[@BlackHedgehog]

Very cool theory, probably won't be happening but still.

[@notmephisto1375]

I don't think that's possible because we see Ben watching footage of himself before the accident on a TV.

[@elisandroku]

Let me add 2 different references to support this F4 theory that they were actually in the '60s at 616. 1) (Multiverse of Madness) Dr. Strange knew the Fantastic Four as a music group. Because, most probably when 4 Astronout vanished on space, a music group was united like the Beatles, and they called themselves the "Fantastic Four." Then, the group became popular, and after 60 years, they're just a nostalgic memory in Dr. Strange's mind. 2) (WandaVision) In the S.W.O.R.D. base, T. Hayward told M. Rambeu that he lost some of his personnel in the blip and space mission (hidden hint for F4). Because of those, they continued to do their missions with nanotechs, robotics, and AIs instead of with human missions.

[@covertTJ]

​@@elisandroku The Fantastic Four is a real music group that really charted in the 60s.

[@aibdan-si7fk]

Dude; I gotta commend your work ethic/ work flow, I feel like you were just replying to my comment on another video, and now you have, ANOTHER video out. You’re insane! In a good way. Keep up the good work!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Thanks! Really appreciate your support of the channel and also your positive feedback!

[@WolverineX-Man97]

Looking forward to how this all plays out in the MCU

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Totally agree!

[@T.W.W.B.]

This has to be one of my favorite videos of yours because of the fact that I’m a giant nerd but this just tickled my fancy lol😅 I love getting down and dirty with this marvel stuff, especially when you add every possible bit of current lore we have! Compiled all into one place! Cheers🎉

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, really fun to see all the info in one vid in rapid fire. Can't wait to see where Marvel takes all of this in the movie this summer!

[@ImAlex290]

This is awesome! I love that they are taking real life theories and putting it in the movies, it makes the science of the movies make more sense and feel more real compared to how other sci-fi stuff works in other media. Really excited!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Well said! Yeah, I think its great that Marvel is somewhat grounded in their basic premise for the multiverse rules.

[@MrElizTutorials5678]

Post credit scene idea for Avengers Doomsday: We open to Loki’s tree with Uatu the Watcher looking at the timeline a figure stands next to him. They both watch as branches are collide and universes are die. Loki’s throne is empty (as earlier in the movie he is over powered by doom and pushed into the multiverse. Uatu: We can no longer watch, the multiverse needs us, a bit everything you know the timelines you know how it’s meant to go, what do you say we patch it up together? So we can continue to joy the ever growing the ever changing- A bit of everything: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Avengers theme plays, cut to black) Seriously, I love your work. You make the multiverse make sense!

[@Netherstrasz]

I think Black Holes are the key, and we will get a cosmic explanation with Galactus. Loki points to this whole concept since Season 1 too!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Well said...from the very beginning of the multiverse saga they've been pointing to the black holes as being the key. That Penrose Diagram was so cool!

[@anaylabh7106]

I think that a universe is a black hole like 616, 10005, Blade, Elektra, Spider-Man, Spider-Man, 90s X-Men/Spider-Man, and timelines are in Loki's tree like What If, maybe YFNSM or that's a different black hole

[@Celebok]

I remember you did another video about black holes and parallel universes a while back, but it's pretty cool that we continue to get new hints from Marvel that traveling between universes is all about black holes. It's also really interesting that there are all these consistent visual clues that black holes are involved, and yet thus far we haven't actually heard anybody talk about the role of black holes in multiverse travel, aside from Moon Girl (which I haven't seen), and the indirect references to singularities. Hopefully Reed Richards will be the one to break it down for us!

[@linkjourney422]

I mean that’s kind of what Loki Season 1 episode 6 implied. Awesome video as always

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Exactly! Marvel laid it out for us waaaaaay back in Loki Season 1 and has been consistent on it ever since. So cool!

[@AethonRose]

I love that they bring scientific theories from real life that have an actual standing and explore what the implications of those theories are. It is why I've always loved marvel.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

Rumors have said that Marvel will confirm that there's only one Galactus in the whole multiverse during Fantastic 4: First Steps. Now, if that rumor was true, there are 2 facts to consider. 1) The 2005/2007 F4 were confirmed as MCU multiversal canon with Chris Evans' cameo as Johnny Storm in Deadpool and Wolverine. So, the 2007 Galactus is canon. 2) In "Fantastic Four: Rise of Silver Surfer", Galactus seems to be a cloud and is later somehow defeated by Silver Surfer in what looks like an implosion. However Galactus' helmet's shadow is seen a few scenes before and looks just like his comic-accurate helmet from the new trailer. So, if the rumor is true, that means Galactus was never a cloud, but the cloud was some kind of manifestation or effect of his presence. And Silver Surfer didn't kill him but instead sent him to another universe by creating a black hole (hence the implosion).

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Love those theories...I think that makes perfect sense!

[@TheShockwave1138]

Really comprehensive! Every time I thought, “oh, and what about…”, suddenly it showed up in the video!

[@Brianpcomstock]

Dar Benn definitely meant to do it. She was told. She made a plan and knew so followed through. Paid the price but she did that and got Monica trapped. Love your videos my guy

[@TheMerchan]

2:00 Thanks to "Animation vs Physics" if I know this diagram...

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Niiiice! I admit, I had never seen it before, so I missed it in my Fantastic 4 trailer breakdown. You had a really good class, it sounds like!

[@TheMerchan]

​@@AbitofEverything4UYou missed "The Spot", I think his portals are technically mini black holes, that's why he can travel the Multiverse... now he's a living Black Hole (at the end of the movie).

[@HermosaFeCatolica]

Faster than light travel to travel “the multiverse?” Sounds like we NEED Flash haha 😀

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Flash would be incredibly helpful right now!

[@steven0719]

awesome analysis coming your discussions on your discord

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, the discord is always lively when it comes to metaphysics!

[@jorgecarbajal8076]

It certainly seems like black holes are the key to traveling across the Marvel multiverse. Hopefully, The Fantastic Four: First Steps will provide some valuable insight on the matter.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yep...Fantastic Four is our best hope at understanding multiversal travel. We're all countin' on ya, Reed. Don't let us down!

[@3ndofsummer]

I mentioned this before, however I haven't seen any content since that comment. So, idk if you mentioned it before already but, when celestials travel, they travel via black holes. When Arishem the Judge takes the eternals, we see that he travels through a black hole. It's a cool visual that might help add to your theory.

[@TranzFloofyBean]

I really like these theories ^w^

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, it's pretty cool to see things slowly coming together!

[@ramihajyounesmontoya5194]

I thought it was also interesting that America's portals are literally a star bursting. That's how black holes are formed. Simplified, of course but perhaps it alludes to America's portals being perhaps a cosmic link into existing black holes and not being created by her exclusively which is how she can bypass causing incursions. She found a loophole to gain "legal" entry into other universes.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Niiiiiiice! I like that theory!

[@rhodrage]

Reading "White hole" just reminds me of Red Dwarf every time.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Indeed!

[@andrejmendes2645]

I recently had a theory on why Reed wants travel to a another universe. Maybe he has foreseen that Galactus is coming and theres no way on stopping him from consuming the earth. His solution is to transport all of humanity or the entire planet to a another universe in wich Galactus can't follow them. But Reed didn't forsaw that they would make contact to a another parallel earth (MCU 616) which will cause an incursion. Maybe that will be part of the plot for Avengers Doomsday.

[@BlackHedgehog]

Hoping this has no spoilers for the new MG&DD episodes since I've yet to watch them (didn't even know they were out until a bit ago). I think the penrose thing is correct because on your lightened up version you can kind of make out 'black hole' and 'white hole' where they are on the actual penrose. Honestly it makes a little sense why Reed Richards would be interested in this stuff considering his whole connection to Kang in the comics. Now I know they're basically not doing Kang anymore but who knows if that implication may play a part still. I think in the creation process it's a white hole.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, I need to watch those Moon Girl episodes myself, so no spoilers here. Looking forward to watching them today. And that's a great point about Reed and Kang...definitely makes sense Reed would be studying multiversal travel!

[@KadenStaab]

The more I think about it, since we are on a fast track, I think Loki’s tree/TVA will be the base for everything. I don’t think Feige will go the route of multiple trees. I still think Loki’s decision to “weave everything together” might be the main reason why incursions are happening because instead of the separate universes being “spread out properly by whoever created them to begin with” they’re now “tangled and intertwined” via Loki when he made his decision. “Time moves differently here in the TVA” My theory is still that Loki S2 happens BEFORE endgame concludes back in actual reality and everything post EG, aka multiverse, is possible/happening because of Loki’s decision. Still working on this theory though!

[@covertTJ]

I was hoping you would make it back to NWH. What Pete describes is the bubble model in which each universe begins with its own big bang and has its own laws of physics rather than the branch model described by Professor Hulk and the TVA. The branch model is consistent with Penrose diagrams and wormhole travel via Alcubierre drive/quantum tunneling. When we see the two black holes in Loki, that seems consistent with both the bubble model in which each universe exists inside of a black hole and the branch model in which they're all connected via wormhole. A white hole is only white from the perspective of the person entering a black hole. Once you get to the other side, it's a black hole and your original black one is white. It's all one wormhole. I guess the MCU is saying "why not both?"

[@covertTJ]

Reed's wormhole confuses me btw because it looks like the wormhole leads to a point on the same plane which would be... teleportation? BAMF? I'm no astrophysicist, but shouldn't multiversal travel exit on a different plane? Is that why they crashed

[@MCLegoboy]

Had I not just recently watched Thor: The Dark World, I would have never remembered about the Black Hole Grenades. I doubt that they would allow anyone or anything to travel to a new Universe, but maybe there is just this one random universe full of junk. Or maybe they even just transport stuff to another point of space in the same universe. (How does all that stuff end up on Sakaar anyway?) I'd say that something would have to occur naturally, but like, there was nothing natural about Monica falling through to a universe with the X-Men, but I doubt those Black Hole Grenades can do that. Maybe if you have a bunch of them and they all went off at the same time though... 🤔

[@marvelitalliance]

Very cool🤙🏻

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Love how it all fits so well together!

[@RusianSpy]

It probably won't come up at all, but it would be interesting if that light speed engine that Mar-Vell made actually got tied into doing multiversal travel, maybe to go save Monica or something.

[@TobyMichaelsOfficial]

This hurt my brain 😂 can your next video be about/contain puppies? Something I can just go "DAWWWW" at intermittently 😅

[@AbitofEverything4U]

lol! Yeah, this was alot to take in...sorry about that. I just think it's cool how Marvel is using irl theories for their multiverse. But yeah, maybe I need to do a vid on the puppy bowl next...something fun and cute and not involving black holes!

[@TobyMichaelsOfficial]

@AbitofEverything4U if you can link that to an mcu theory. I will be impressed 😄

[@stefan3597]

Ive always wondered. Are your videos PowerPoint presentations? Or how do you make them? Maybe a fun behind the scenes members video idea to show the process 😁

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great question! I cover some of that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWnHaZyKfrdjh9k. Let me know if that answers your questions or if another dive into the topic would be helpful. I'm always looking for BTS ideas!

[@MatthewKKwan122]

I wonder do this Reed know other heroes in multiverse

[@camrenstuder6734]

I would love it if we saw the fantastic four’s universal tree, as they travel from their universe to the 616 at the end of the film, unless they get to the 616 because their universe is destroyed in an incursion. We never learned yet how universes get destroyed by incursions in the mcu, so what if galactus is the being that destroys universes that undergo incursions in the continuity, and an incursion happens in the fantastic four because they were originally from the mcu before they went through a black hole on their original trip to space?

[@coolerkerl8469]

Cool that MG S2 Part 2 is out now! Although I haven't finished Part 1 yet 😅

[@RafaelScarpa]

I think you went off a bit when saying white holes make timeline branches but you're really onto something with the black hole hints. Also I always read the blackboard text as "future [???]" instead of "alternate universe" but the rest fits in.

[@luna9astra105]

Great theory breakdown! I’m looking forward to, hopefully, finally getting some answers in Fantastic Four. If the What If universes are created by black/white holes, does that mean that both branched universes/timelines and parallel universes/worlds are created by them?

[@chadd990]

the term you're looking for is theoretical model, or speculative theory. The term scientific theory is reserved for those that actually work, like gravity or relativity.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Oh, great point...yes, definitely all speculative theory...but also all very cool!

[@tonycumberbatch7651]

Shall we begin our debate once again, as it certainly sound like we are going to be discussing blackholes, wormholes, quantum singularities and the Einstein-Rosen bridge theory way beyond the July cinema screening of, the Fantastic Four First Steps movie. I too have look at the Penrose Diagram online, but I believe the best place to start is with how to travel faster than the speed of light. In Star Trek, they use Warp Drive Engine that uses anti-matter which is the same as negative mass, as said by Moon Girl. I suggest this as most people understand Star Trek, and The Alcubierre Warp Drive is a bit of a mouth, but theoretically they are the same as the both employ a Warp Bubble. Reed Richards biggest problem is how to create sufficient anti-matter to fuel his Warp Drive Engine but, if F4 World is within the Negative Zone, Reed will have all the fuel he needs. Theoretically there is a window where no gravitational vortices occur, and those are the entry and exit points but, if you get too close to the event horizon spaghettification is inevitable. Time to stop or I'll be writing an essay for the rest of my evening and well into the night.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Love it! Very well stated. Hope Reed read your comment and took a copious amount of notes!

[@heroicboy3668]

10:45 i think there are only three characters capable of explaining the concept of Marvel's multiverse and they are Loki, Reed Richards and Doctor Doom

[@rsprinkle1995]

Silly comparison but, The Spot also travels between universes using black holes (just holes that are black instead of the cosmic phenomena).

[@hunterterrell5735]

With how often you talk about black holes, your name wouldn't have to be Jonathan Ohnn, would it?😅 but yeah, it seems like black holes are the key to multiversal travel. Those holes aren't a curse!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, I had to pull in all the black hole stuff in one vid after that amazing discovery of the Penrose Diagram. Marvel keeps finding new theories I've never heard of and I love it!

[@AkiraKurusu-b3k]

Random thought, why can the Ethereals eat food. Get that Vision is an human synthezoid and can’t , but in the movie Arishem said they trapped in robot bodies.

[@ashleybanks-wm4cg]

Good theory everything i never thought about this

[@MightyMarshallandTJP]

So Reed knows of the multiverse and black hole and white hole dimensions, but we don't know that yet, and all of us need to know what does the black hole and the white hole does it do to go different universes? Reed Richards will answer all the questions in The Fantastic Four: First Steps, but the problem is whether they are inside the MCU or the outside, but we have to wait and see when it comes out.

[@davidsentosa779]

I have a question. Do you think the MCU has been clear about whether or not universe and timeline are distinct? It seems like they're used interchangeably often but also few times treated differently like in What If season 1 when Ancient One splited Strange's lives or timelines into two in one universe. But often it's like they're referring to the same thing.

[@philiphatch6040]

Shoutout to the Nerdvengers in the chat

[@AbitofEverything4U]

lol! Nerdvengers here, sir!

[@WhiteRaven696]

At this point, I don't even think this is just a theory anymore. This is just straight up how they're justifying Multiversal travel lol Which makes sense, we still don't know what happens inside of a black hole. Just call it a hole in the universe that can let you hop to another one.

[@LittleMan27]

I think Reed is trying to travel the Multiverse because Galactus wants Franklin and they won’t give him up, so he’ll destroy their universe

[@teenflash19]

She wasn't home to a timeline so she would be special to how a person can use her to be close to black holes being shorten the path tunnel of exotic matter

[@TheBatuhan]

Possible Spoiler for the movie:. . . . . Fantastic 4 actually from 616 universe! they trapped in that parallel universe, that's why reed wants and searching ways to go back to main 616 universe.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Very cool theory!

[@erikelliott8015]

If this is secret sauce, what is the secret seasoning?

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Hmmmmm...I'll go with paprika...it's always a good addition to any actively functioning black hole!

[@glassheart97]

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[@AbitofEverything4U]

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[@glassheart97]

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[@laserbeamlightning]

People saying sue hiding the baby bump in an edit

[@betterthanstarlight]

No, I think it’s hoisin sauce

[@Herokalla]

HI!

[@Herokalla]

I feel like Moon Girl def told us for sure

[@Herokalla]

Haven't finished it yet but I wanna say all most of this is recap

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yo! Yeah, sorry, alot of this is recap for long-timers. My apology. That's why I made it short and sweet, but I really wanted to get it all in one vid. The Penrose Diagram was just so cool that I had to make a vid on it.

[@bruceuniverse1]

woah

[@v3nuscurs3]

hello mcu fans

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Well, hello there!

[@hunterterrell5735]

Speculative spoilers for The Fantastic Four What if their second space mission is to help defeat Galactus by saying him through a black hole and that's how they end up in the MCU at the end

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Niiiiiice! Yeah, I bet the fight with Galactus is what will trigger them getting pulled over to 616.

[@YesHelloNoBye]

what a faaaaaccckkiin video. amazing. just got a quarter chub. such a nerd