I love this stuff. Good to see the “wallpaper” being put to such good use!
@slimjw4 жыл бұрын
I guess I like the "fizz." Greenbacks for me all day. Hiwatt sounded like it had a cold.
@katsavidiz4 жыл бұрын
Good description on the Hiwatt!
@MaddesG14 жыл бұрын
loool
@youKnowWho33114 жыл бұрын
Hiwatt is ported, so that makes some sense. I use two separate cabs off the same head. Mesa V30 loaded deep closed back 2x12 and a DRZ green/cream loaded 2x12 oval open back. It makes for a great mix together. Now if I play through just one of them, I don't like the sound. Spoiled. Don't do it kids. Will ruin you forever.
@dwftube4 жыл бұрын
@@katsavidiz Maybe it would sound better with different EQ on the amp? I didn't hear them say they adjusted for each cab, so whichever one they did adjust for was off to a head start.
@mariodriessen97404 жыл бұрын
slimjw ; Maybe we're alone on that one, but I also prefered the Greenbacks. In fact, I thought it was the best sounding cabinet on every example. Sometimes even miles ahead of the others. What I liked about it was the fact that it sounded more agressive to me. In my book 'fizzy' is something else. And about that bass..., most of the time it's the first thing that's being eq'ed out, or else you'll piss off the bass player. Greenbacks for me.
@RC32Smiths014 жыл бұрын
As a guitarist, every dream of ours is to achieve a better and tasty tone! Really grateful for the information, and always a pleasure to see the collab with Rhett
@jamesgoddard23214 жыл бұрын
I agree. As someone who doesn’t have ready access to all the equipment combinations it’s really helpful to hear these comparisons.
@RC32Smiths014 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgoddard2321 Ahh definitely man. I know there are many of us who really need these informative videos!
I used headphones, the Mesa had THE best full sound, high/low/mid all perfectly blending. Just perfect. I love Mesas.
@MrUltraworld4 жыл бұрын
The Hiwatt was my least favorite. I think the Mesa sounded the best, great high end, the low end isn't boomy at all.
@ScutMonkey4 жыл бұрын
I agree on most of these. I wonder if the Hiwatt only really shines with a Hiwatt amp. That guitar cabinet with a DR103 head is the basis for David Gilmore's sound and his tone is magic so I dunno.
@MrUltraworld4 жыл бұрын
@@ScutMonkey I think you're right. The cab is designed for the head powering it. David Gilmore has amazing tone.
@PooNinja4 жыл бұрын
Love the screen name 😂 do ya still need help with your trusses 😂
@bryanherward46794 жыл бұрын
@@MrUltraworld he didn't say what Fanes...Gilmour used Fane Crescendo's which are different than the standard Purple Fanes
@CAPFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with the Hiwatt (as suggested) is that it's more matched to the Hiwatt amps, but also that because of its high power, the massive headroom never really pushed the speakers, making them sound more muddled because they weren't getting the push the other, lower powered speakers were. You could hear it in the Mesa to some extent too, especially on the Marshall amp. I know it's probably not factually correct, but that's how it felt on the speakers I was hearing through.
@jeffainsley60004 жыл бұрын
This is an essential video, and does a great job of illustrating one of the most overlooked aspects of guitar tone. If you have a combo amp or two, try using it as a cabinet for other amps. This is a great way to multiply your gear options without spending money. Just make sure the impedance of the speaker(s) matches whatever amp is being used (4 ohm, 8 ohm, 16 ohm).
@joshrepik4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Ainsley I modified my fender pro 185 reverb for this exact reason to accept a 1/4” input. The amp is great for cleans but pales in comparison to my 5150 head for distorted tones
@TheSecondNature4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else have this? It's weird, to my ears the first notes after they switch amp really suck and then after like 3 seconds I start liking it. I guess I'm overwhelmed by the differences at first but then I immediately get used to the different qualities and I can appreciate each one of them. The Marshalls and Mesa are winners, the Hiwatt was a bit dead in this specific setting. I think it's not for this kind of straight ahead rock n roll sound but it's more of a platform for more complex sounds (I'm thinking Gilmour or Hackett who both used them with incredible results)
@evanmiller25794 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. And I notice this at home as well even switching through different OD pedals. You get zeroed in on a tone and then upon dialing up something different there is a lag until your ears and brain adjust.
@djjazzyjeff12324 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. That being said though, I'm partial to the two Marshall Cabs. I didn't really like the Hiwatt at all and the Mesa was kinda there but the extra low end I didn't really care for. If I was to use that I'd eq it out anyway so what's the point lol. The first one and the last cab, man they were both great, it'd depend on the song/part but you couldn't really go wrong with either of them. The first one sounded more classic to me and the last one a bit more of a modern sound.
@JDrums_Games4 жыл бұрын
No offence, but that’s like a damn essay for me to read
@samxday4 жыл бұрын
FlyingDorritoChip it’s 100 words. Hardly an essay 🤣
@codymcgrew40154 жыл бұрын
That’s ear fatigue lol you’ve probably spent hours looking for an amp/speaker you want and it’s taxing.
@leonardsullivan4 жыл бұрын
That mesa sounds huge, damn!
@MrUltraworld4 жыл бұрын
I liked it best too.
@ShaunaMarieSings4 жыл бұрын
Agree!!! 💗💗💗
@jessemontano63994 жыл бұрын
Mesa kills. Fucking rumbles your soul.
@TheD33pthawt4 жыл бұрын
Mesa knows how to construct a massive sounding cab, I have a recto 2x12 verticle cab for my TC100 and it sounds AMAZEBALLS with my PRS HXDA 100 too!
@slowpoke78884 жыл бұрын
I have that mesa cab (except with the slant back top); it has been my secret weapon forever, and I still love it BUT I just fell in love with that 65w Celestion loaded Marshall cab. I really want one. Maybe because my playing style has changed a little. I would love to know more about those 65w Celestion speakers. I'd like to try them in my Mesa cab. Would appreciate if anyone can help me identify them better.
@swankmotee4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the Park is getting quality time! One major thing that needs to be spoken about in reference to speaker cabs is condition and age of the speakers. Depending upon how 'broken in" a set are will make a huge difference in the overall quality of tone as well as the "vintage" ( year they were manufactured) because more modern cones are manufactured differently and do not sound the same as their older versions. Also each and every box will have its own inherent resonances and tone response just due to the quality of wood so not every old Marshall 4x12 will sound stellar. I surmised that the 65 watters Rick loaded into the JCM800 box were nicely broken in and the cab has a nice overall resonance. Of course your own results will always vary!
@plumbummusic20514 жыл бұрын
The first two cabs were my favorites, definitely. Marshall with greenbacks are the sound of rock n' roll and the mesa had a nice bottom-end with a decent high mid presence but less treble, which is a standard for V30s.
@Briandnlo44 жыл бұрын
It’s so subjective, and down to taste. I loved the low-watt greenbacks. It could be subject to change if I was listening on earbuds, cans, stereo speakers, laptop speakers...
@bnjmnwst4 жыл бұрын
I'm listening on bluetooth cans from my phone, and I heard it the same way.
@joshmcsaucy4 жыл бұрын
All of those cabs sounded great but for me personally you can’t beat the greenback/Marshall combo. Also, both of those amps are crazy good!
@glennman09224 жыл бұрын
Rick: “Ok, Rhett, here’s how this video is gonna go. The guy NOT playing guitar will become a human bobble-head. Ok? “ Rhett: “Gotcha Rick!”
@jbradford004 жыл бұрын
Holy crap!! I fast-forwarded through the video and stopped 7 or 8 times. EVERY SINGLE TIME I stopped, one of them was bobbing his head. :D
@BrettThompsonPT4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@buzzcrumhunger71144 жыл бұрын
Every time Rick says, "Let's check it out," I have a Johan Segeborn flashback. Actually, this pretty much IS a Johan video. Check him out!
@glennman09224 жыл бұрын
Bradley Rossiter I was thinking the same. Rick has the full on bobble going when Rhett is playing Zepplin. Up down side to side. I almost fell over.
@thorblank8894 жыл бұрын
It's so strange how he looks like a living wii character.
@MarkPritchardGuitar4 жыл бұрын
For me the classic Marshall head and the Marshall Basketweave cab is the winner! What a sound!
@derekpink4 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised the Mesa was consistently my favourite.
@cornstar12534 жыл бұрын
I'm not. My mesa 1/12 combo is awesome. Even cleans up better than a delux reverb
@Dwendele4 жыл бұрын
Same here, with the Hiwatt as a close second
@EricKlein4 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 100watt Soldano Lucky 13, which is an absolute monster of an amp and when I can shopped for it a straight mesa 4x12 sounded shockingly better than anything else I tried. despite it being absurdly heavy and more expensive it was worth it, nothing else even came close.
@tomasesilva4 жыл бұрын
Me too, it sounds awesome!
@guitarnerdjoey11924 жыл бұрын
People seem to be really hating on the Hiwatt. My first thought was "what a perfect speaker cabinet to get some amazing 70's Rush and Yes type guitar tones" Expand your horizons guys, experiment with more sounds and you might come up with riffs you wouldn't have otherwise.
@NathanSidF4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I loved the tone, but I'd blend it with the greenbacks!
@rwaggs814 жыл бұрын
Hiwatt my favorite in some ways.
@rcjward4 жыл бұрын
rwaggs81 The Hiwatt was warmest.
@matiastarkkala4 жыл бұрын
Amen, brother. I liked it best too. Maybe because I don't usually deal with high frequencies that well.
@dougrobinson86024 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure they're really hating on it, just a matter of personal taste. I think with more distortion, the Hiwatt would smooth things out, and sound great, while the Mesa would be too edgy. Unquestionably, great tones have been played through Hiwatts.
@Mars-4 жыл бұрын
Interesting thing was my perception of tone changed a bit on multiple listens. Important - preferences can vary. Also ,there is not one combo that sounds better in every style or situation. That said,my preferences for each song demo: Jet- Vintage Celestion speakers with Marshall cab Acdc - Celestion Marshall again (SG with Marshall Like Angus Young ) Solo -Hiwatt (really let the individual notes breathe ) ACDC - Same preference as for other ACDC Led Zep- Celestion Marshall Soundgarden- Mesa (Low end vital for that tune's drop D) Now to be fair, my preferences appear to lined up with the amps the songs were originally done on . So obviously those combos would sound more "right" Had they been done on different ones the preferences would be affected. 🌟Good video and concept
@Astrochronic4 жыл бұрын
cracks me up how Mr. Beato shakes his head while the guy solos, and then goes into nodding when he hits the rhythm riff...
@eubankrs4 жыл бұрын
@Rick Beato Watching your head movements while Rhett is playing his solo pieces 5:57 to 8:08 is priceless. You were totally immersed in the playing and your true love of music showed every run. Great video. Sometimes what you don't say IS just as important as what you do.
@p_12104 жыл бұрын
Greenbacks all day, love the midrange in them especially for classic/hard rock and probably would be best live in a mix. Mesa was good also, just a little scooped for me though. Can see why blokes use 2 greenbacks and 2 V 30’s in a 4x12.
@charleshale85044 жыл бұрын
For sure, hard to beat the creaminess of the Mesa, but have that mid presence of the greenbacks as well
@luisroy51224 жыл бұрын
The V30 speakers have H type magnet (bigger sounding) Greenbacks and 65's have M type magnet (less low end, more midrange focus). The Fanes are a different type of speaker. Cabinet measures and features, plus speaker specs create different sonic scenarios. Great video. Thanks!!
@RhettShull4 жыл бұрын
Man, I've been sleeping on those Mesa cabinets...I need one!
@RisikoAO4 жыл бұрын
no, you don't, stop spending money you don't have! :D
4 жыл бұрын
The small 1x12 mesa cabs are amazing, great sound and kinda portable, they look weird with a big valve amp over them though
@eoghanbishop97454 жыл бұрын
You made them all sound great
@buzzcrumhunger71144 жыл бұрын
Too heavy, too loud for your gigs. Maybe a 2x12?
@NathanSidF4 жыл бұрын
I vote 2x12's! Love my Orange Tiny Terror on 2 horizontal Orange 2x12's, stacked vertical. (One is open back, one closed, for ultimate tones.) 😏
@Scratch_Monsters_Golf4 жыл бұрын
Great topic. It’s amazing how many players ignore speakers and cabs in their search for their sound, when they are two of the biggest factors in a guitar tone.
@l3wisgtr4 жыл бұрын
The Hiwatt Vintage tone is Astonishing, i love it!!!
@bnjmnwst4 жыл бұрын
It's super muddy to me. The others are more present, the first two very much so.
@ragingchimera80214 жыл бұрын
@@bnjmnwst Agreed, sounds like there is a blanket over the cab.
@Darkgl4ss4 жыл бұрын
It seems to me like the Hiwatt has a much stronger mid-range than the other two, granted it does has less high end. I think it would probably sit better in a band mix
@clicheguevara99174 жыл бұрын
i would love to hear the hiwatt cab with a trebly amp or a treble Booster!
@pd41654 жыл бұрын
I'm a Brit - I've never seen anyone with a Mesa cab...but Marshall and Hiwatt are our bread and butter. The Mesa...sounded middy and focused. The Hiwatt...no lower mids or bass at all. I've had Hiwatt cabs (Fane) and they didn't sound anything like that. They were hard and punchy...like a Celestion cab with a bit of direct mixed in. But they were sealed back. Vented didn't seem to suit them at all. Of the two Marshall cabs -the basketweave sounded full frequency - creamy to about 5K - the 80's one was more aggressive; a more pronounced lower mid. I'd take the 100W all day long, but I like progressive breakup. If I was buying a 4*12 I'd get the 1960TV - a 100W big cab. The extra volume gives it more 'phlub' (like AC/DC with the mids shifted down a bit).
@DougErapps4 жыл бұрын
i never thought i’d say these words in my lifetime: i liked the 75 watts the best...... omg... what’s next?? will i become a Maroon 5 fan next ??? What’s happening to me...!!!😱😉 Great video!! Loved it!!
@RickBeato4 жыл бұрын
Haha! I want to get you to my studio to make a video like this one Doug.
@bertgetner93974 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt my pick was the 65 cab. Driven with the park put it over the top. That's the sound. Ultimate smokin' guitar sound. No effects needed with that combo. Straight driven and in your face!
@bentcountershaft4 жыл бұрын
I loved the Hiwatt for the Since I've Been Loving You part for some reason. Both clean and dirty. For everything else I preferred the Marshall with the 65w Celestions or the Mesa.
@Ninjametal4 жыл бұрын
Exact same
@gcarlson4 жыл бұрын
Long time mesa guy here. On stage, I'd probably prefer (except for the schelp) the mesa's grunt, but damn the 65watt marshall cab just sang thru the mic. very balanced. Wish I could a/b the amps a bit so I could pick out the differences better. Great vid, guys. Great idea.
@alanwoodwind52654 жыл бұрын
For some reason I'm digging those 65 watt Celestions.
@bjstein42423 жыл бұрын
Since they were used on Back in Black is it any wonder they sounded awesome..
@orionwarren42443 жыл бұрын
Me too. And the Marshall amp. The Park sounded just a tad less bright, less 'sear'.
@MusicalBox4 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Thanks to both of you. I guess speakers 3 and 4 would sound fine if not compared to anything else. But I like 1 and 2 a lot more because they sound better in the high frequencies. A slight preference for the Mesa (#2).
@bootleggerrosey4 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of that goshdern mesa every time!
@incognitoguitars99994 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ve spent a lot of time A/B cabs and also thought the Fayne speakers are way too nasally. They are great with a very bright amp though. I have a couple Friedman 412’s that sound incredible. One has 4x GB and the other has 2x V30 (bottom) and 2x GB top. I think you’d enjoy both.
@NominalTopic4 жыл бұрын
So...the auto-generated captions display your name as “Rich Biatch”... just thought you should know.
@cramerfan044 жыл бұрын
Just saw that myself in the video preview 🤣
@gfunkk4 жыл бұрын
@@cramerfan04 didn't know you were a die antwoord fan Rick!
@christopherscheidel54314 жыл бұрын
Rick Beato, doing the work the rest of us only could dream we could do. Thank you! I’ve never had such a great comparison between these cabs. Makes me wonder why I always liked some cabs over others.
@TeeCeeBee4 жыл бұрын
6:30 that clean tone is perfect.
@williamscolaro11594 жыл бұрын
I said exactly the same thing as soon as I heard it
@darwinsaye3 жыл бұрын
Funny that some people consider that a "clean" tone. Less distorted, sure, but there wasn't an actual clean tone used in the entire video, which is a shame.
@alausund4 жыл бұрын
I have the mesa 4x12 straight and this just confirmed I made the right choice, good part is that the low end is easier to EQ out than in If It's not to taste and the mid and highs has a distinct roar to It :)
@loganirvine37004 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad they used "Since I been loving you". Probably my favorite Zeppelin song.
@cornstar12534 жыл бұрын
His playing is better than jimmies drunk licks
@MohamedAboElOla4 жыл бұрын
@@cornstar1253 hahahaha... Yes and no.
@Jellybeantiger4 жыл бұрын
Yeah ,the rhodes and drums make the song.
@TheDirge694 жыл бұрын
The SRTS version in my top 10
@Jellybeantiger4 жыл бұрын
Richmond Tiger hi fellow Tiger.
@suspnd61704 жыл бұрын
I kept picking #4. Guess 3 years studying under Mr. Beato has developed my ear. Thank you both for all you do.
@larydixon48244 жыл бұрын
Jeez, what a revealing shootout ! Unbelievable how much better the Mesa is.. Clear and concise with a wider frequency response.. Seems like no contest ! Thanks guys.. Lary
@AudreySmilley4 жыл бұрын
Huge difference. My preference in every clip was the first Marshall with 25 watt greenbacks, then the 65 watt Celestions, followed by the Mesa cab for some. But that one (and the Hiwatt cab throughout) sounded like the were recorded behind 5 mattresses and a pile of towels in most of the clips. Great clip!
@zoeherriot4 жыл бұрын
"Hi, I'm Rich Biatch." - KZbin CC algorithm
@RickBeato4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!!
@jonkomatsu81924 жыл бұрын
Hah! You noticed that too!
@Gibson1961SG4 жыл бұрын
Same thing for me. Ha ha!
@GeoffBosco4 жыл бұрын
Saw that and knew this would be the top comment. Lol
@KnowGoodHuman4 жыл бұрын
KZbin auto captions has failed at “Rick Beato” 100% of the time (Brick Piano?) but this new one is my favorite.
@jj037ma4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. These are so instructive. Every time, I found myself loving the Mesa. The Hiwatt sounded like there was a rug in front of the speakers.
@Bastion714 жыл бұрын
The Hiwatt was consistently ick. Kinda muddy and flabby, at least compared to the others. I really liked the Mesa and both the Marshalls, with the vintage having a slight edge. I preferred the Marshall amp over the Park. Definitely can hear a difference between all of those setups!
@jonpaulsonbass14 жыл бұрын
this has been one of the best videos you have done!! super helpful
@ScottyBrockway4 жыл бұрын
Love the 65 watt marshall cab, I had one and I kick myself for selling it. It's even more ballsy with the matching JCM 800 head. Runner up is the Mesa cabinet. I'd be interested to hear one loaded with Altecs and also JBL D120Fs.
@mikebuchanan18814 жыл бұрын
SG -> Park -> Hiwatt ! ❤️❤️ We have a winner! Is that Hiwatt actually supposed to sound like that? Sounds like something's broken, but I love it!!
@luthiervandros4 жыл бұрын
Never realized how much I love greenbacks.
@willimitus4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree, with you guys. The Marshall with the vintage celestions was my fav.
@danjohnsonstudio4 жыл бұрын
Thought the HiWatt lost out on every take, except when the solos kicked in, then it seemed to fill out all the single note stuff in just the right way. So, that’s sorted, I need two cabs!
@jk-dr3ru4 жыл бұрын
when the notes go higher; Rick's eyebrows do too. cool hair dude. you're awesome. great ear and analysis. what a wealth of musical knowledge and techniques you give us. thank you muchly.
@rwaggs814 жыл бұрын
The Hiwatt and the last Marshall cab are what speaks to me.
@vk3fbab4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see so many people who aren't Mesa fans giving the recto cab credit. I'm a Mesa fan and am thinking I might try a good Marshall cab! At least to save my back.
@antoniomarcello98724 жыл бұрын
the Hiwatt cab sounded so good, and I assume it would slip right into mix perfectly
@bnjmnwst4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't super muddy for you? It was too dark for me.
@antoniomarcello98724 жыл бұрын
@@bnjmnwst it had some bass. i thought it would be good more for a mix or for rhythm guitar than lead.
@ragingchimera80214 жыл бұрын
Too muddy to cut through a mix.
@djjazzyjeff12324 жыл бұрын
You must be the only one who thought that, because I thought it sounded crap compared to the others. No comparison.
@antoniomarcello98724 жыл бұрын
@@ragingchimera8021 thats why I said "slip right into a mix" not cut right through. theres a use for both sounds, in my opinion. not every song is an AC/DC cover.
@noisepuppet4 жыл бұрын
Each one would sit differently in a given mix. That's what these comparisons remind me to think about, more than which one is preferable when the guitar track is solo'd. But tbh this gear is far beyond anything I'll get my hands on. I just try to get a sound that doesn't suck, using whatever little combo amp or emulator I have around. For a fun exercise, on any given shot in one of Rick's videos, total up the budget for all the equipment you see in the background. And this is one reason why artists are willing to pay for professional studio time. Everything's there, and it all works. Comes with guys who know how to run it.
@CAYENNEOREZ4 жыл бұрын
Funny, I thought the greenbacks sounded better than the Celestions every time for the Marshall cabs. My second choice was usually the Messa cab.
@CAYENNEOREZ4 жыл бұрын
@@rogerdat7807 Whoops. I guess what I meant is that I usually liked the greenbacks better than the cab with the 65W which Rhett and Rick both seemed to prefer. To each his own, I guess.
@Dagger_3233 жыл бұрын
Depends on what tone you're going for. If you're into classic rock n' roll tones, then it's Greenbacks all day long. "Fizz" is merely a part of that sound, although I'm not sure what year those Greenbacks used here are dated from. If they're post-Pulsonic cone, then that's the reason for the excessive fizz. Later Celestions, no matter how broken in they are, always have a fizzier and more shrill tone than the true vintage Pulsonic cone Greenbacks from around '73 dating back through the mid-'60s. Celestion has never been able to nail the magic of the original Greenbacks since those days due to a differing construction. The closest speakers to nailing the vintage Pre-Rola Celestion tones available today are the current Scumback speakers.
@thatmechanicguy87734 жыл бұрын
The Marshall's sounded the best to me. The Mesa and Hi-Watt sounded like they were muffling the sound.
@garrygaggles11604 жыл бұрын
I loved the sound of the Mesa cab with the V30's... but perhaps to be in the the room is where it affects the playing style and feel.. so many comparisons - it's all in the taste . great vid guys.
@TheStones19654 жыл бұрын
Testament to how good Jimmy Page is right here. Great playing by Rick’s friend.
@joshrepik4 жыл бұрын
The whole time I was really digging the Marshall cab with the 65w speakers, I’m glad my ear is agreeing with you guys! I honestly liked the hi on the more melodic sounding elements, but there’s nothing wrong with having a specific cab that’s good for a specific thing 🤘🏼🤘🏼
@TampaSkwad4 жыл бұрын
I think the Hiwatt would sound better in a mix and not step over vocals
@movimentodoscacos4 жыл бұрын
If you want to get heav: Mesa. I did liked the Hiwatt personally because I like nasal tones; but the first Marshall was great as well. Of course it depends on what you want to play and what you like to hear after all
@anthonydratnal18704 жыл бұрын
I think I'm slowly becoming allergic to Vintage 30 upper mids, the ringing note on Rock and Roll was downright annoying through the Mesa cab. Whereas I loved the Greenback reissue biting fizz, it's not as focused.
@jcmcclain574 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick... Great shoot out!!! I own a 1972 DR103 half stack and would love to put it through the Mess cabinet. Thanks!!!
@synthfreek4 жыл бұрын
The Hiwatt just sounded off with both heads. I preferred the 65 watters in almost every case.
@tisbonus4 жыл бұрын
Oh that Mesa! Rhett's right about the Hiwatt. Throw my hopped up strat in front of that Hiwatt and proceeded to get shaved as that tone would cut like ice! Excellent playing fellas!!!
@lennyverralis4 жыл бұрын
i actually really like the Hiwatt cab!
@glasgowguitarist36364 жыл бұрын
Wow, I was shocked by that. I’ve been playing Mesa since 1985 and love them to this day. I’ve never really cared for Marshall until recently. I’ve also never been a fan of 412 cabs as I’ve used a pair of Mesa Thiele EVM12L cabs sing the mid 90’s. I had a Marshall 100w cab with pre Rola green backs from 1971 which I hated and sold. However, in this test I thought the 65w Marshall was easily the best cab. Next was the Greenbacks. The HiWatt was certainly “different “ and a bot muffled but it had a unique character. The Mesa was consistently my least favourite by a LONG way.
@dwftube4 жыл бұрын
I had always assumed that most of what I heard as the Mesa sound was the amp. Listening to this makes me think that's only 60% of it and the cab is dong the rest. Edit: now I come to think of it, there is a famous player (who's name escapes me) who uses a Marshall but prefers the sound of Mesa cabs and puts it down partly to the beefier construction.
@richardcasey44394 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy these side-by-side comparisons.
@tm1964 жыл бұрын
I still can't get my engineer head around this "what sounds guitarrier" or "I want to throw cables in the open back over sound quality" concepts of instrument amps/speakers, and mostly not the "they are not designed for music listening" off your mp3 or any other source. In my head it would be like both amp and speaker tries to be within 3dB over the audible spectrum and we EQ out what we don't need there. Loved the Mesa, poor Hiwatt didn't impress...
@mdragon994 жыл бұрын
Love when this kinda thing is done so well. Good job man!
@SimpleManGuitars19734 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm in the minority in feeling like the hiwatt was the only one that sounded good out of them all. It just sounded much less harsh and warmer to my ears than the others. I'm a "combo amp guy" though and probably just have a natural inclination to lean away from cabinet sounds to start with.
@mgcnashville66154 жыл бұрын
The SG through the Park head, and 65 watt Celestion 100w Marshall cab 4x12 has a very similar sound to the white stripes "fell in love with a girl" tone. Love it!
@kaesarjones65984 жыл бұрын
Just got this notif after watching URM academys video on cabs
@timchalmers17002 жыл бұрын
Fun to see and hear you guys working so hard.
@serratusband4 жыл бұрын
I like the faces of the person not playing while the other person is playing.
@cheycasters4 жыл бұрын
Man, I lOVE my ET-65"s speakers. I have two Marshall 1969 4x12 greenbacks in them that sound nothing like these cabs do but, thats using my 1970 Marshall 100W Super Lead head with them..... Jimi ALL the Band of Gypsies/Woodstock tones for days and REAL too!!! But as I said, the 65 w cab was my 62 year old ears fav as well!!! Shalom from NW Montana USA!
@blakevanhouten16724 жыл бұрын
I might be in the in minority but I liked the Hiwatt, I like midrange I guess. Would EQ it differently for sure.
@vox19663 жыл бұрын
Hiwatt head and cab would blow everything away
@glenkepic32084 жыл бұрын
Marshall 50 watt. yep. I could hear the difference and dug all the cabs but somehow liked the snarky tone of the HiWatt with Fanes. Reminded me of my '81 Mace with sq plate Em's. First choice, Basketweave. PB&J :)
@CuriousKitchen4 жыл бұрын
Vintage 65 was definitely the smoothest.
@spk19694 жыл бұрын
Finally a gear video that's worth watching and provides very valuable information! Great content guys!
@l3wisgtr4 жыл бұрын
Would be Great a video of a Jimi Hendrix Marshall Tone!!!
@toddmenhinick61574 жыл бұрын
Loved the Mesa cab. I wasn't expecting the high end rolloff on the Hiwatt. The Park head has a ton of character. Loved the raspy bite on the breakup. Another great video, guys!
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache4 жыл бұрын
8:49 I can hear the full song in my head
@terryducote4 жыл бұрын
Yeah try not drumming along. Impossible
@MaddesG14 жыл бұрын
If u can hear the rest of the band then im with u on that
@GeorgeSPAMTindle4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another informative video Rick. Each of the four cabs certainly does have a different sound to the others. This is why all amplifiers have tone controls for treble, middle, and bass. Could you do a test which involves adjusting the amp settings in order to try and get the same sound from different cabs?
@michaelarthur47644 жыл бұрын
I was surprised I loved the Mesa the best and really didn’t like the HiWatt at all.
@demagmusic4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I didn't really like the HiWatt either
@Desertmouth4 жыл бұрын
@@demagmusic Mesa > All Amps
@edhampton4154 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, Another great video. The 1960 best sounding to me. I really liked the Mesa (a close second). Didn't care for the Highwatt at all. The other Marshall was ok.
@qwertyasdf664 жыл бұрын
I spent the whole time watching Rick when Rhett was playing.
@stevenmoore32054 жыл бұрын
Love what you guys do. The Marshall sounds the best with the mesa coming in second.
@youKnowWho33114 жыл бұрын
MESA< There's a reason the 90's music was soo heavy. Bottom End!
@Dagger_3233 жыл бұрын
Guess that's one reason I don't like '90s music...
@Wildman94 жыл бұрын
I agree with Rhett on this one.Yeah the 65s sound great.And single coils,the HiWatt.The Mesas sound good just didn't notice the bass as much.But I'm on my phone,so there is a lot of the sound I'm not hearing.Great stuff boy's.🤘👍😎🎸
@swedeinla4 жыл бұрын
Basket weave sounded best of all of them I think
@4b10xs4 жыл бұрын
I really liked the fanes...something about how it opens up from gentle to aggressive in the low mids ...with the LP. Amazing sound
Excellent technique for comparing equipment! You guys provided a real homegeneous basis for the comparissons you made. I also subscribe your opinions...the 65W x 4 Celestion Marshall cabinet stood above the others... 👍
@drewabrams114 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Mesa blew everything away.
@JustSleepin614 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your 1,2,3,4 using the guitars & the tracks you were playing .. also agree the HiWatt would go better with single coils, you kinda got a flavour of that with the really clean sections .. what was most interesting was that the guitar playing was more dynamic and fluid depending upom the feedback you were getting from the cabs