So I did NOT make hydrogen in this test ?

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High temp burner research Breaks the sound barrier for max temp on Propane burners .
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@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
Guys why is hydrogen turning me into a Jerk again LOL . Look out in the comment section im on a roll with the troll
@whatthefunction9140
@whatthefunction9140 Сағат бұрын
Bro knows his black body radiation physics
@kaelhooten8468
@kaelhooten8468 55 минут бұрын
Someone needs to get Nighthawk and Cody involved
@kaelhooten8468
@kaelhooten8468 57 минут бұрын
Loving this combat-science throw down it’s like the 1800’s up in here. Challenge the Thundercooter’s to duels! Pistola at dawn up on the high ridge 💀
@mitakeet
@mitakeet Сағат бұрын
Why not consider building the cracking chamber out of ceramics, specifically alumina? Edit: A day or so ago I thought you might be able to separate out the carbon with cyclonic separation. The basics are, well, fairly basic, you have a conically shaped volume (with the small end pointing down) and the mixture of gas and particles introduced at high velocity at a tangential angle. The resultant centrifugal force will throw the denser particles toward the wall and gravity will pull them toward the bottom (there are various ways to 'drain' the particles) while the gas will move toward the middle and rise up. This way you can configure your cracker to blow the carbon out continuously to avoid clogging while also not having to worry about clogging your valve mixer downstream.
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
Fabrication cost
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
great idea its just hard to make .
@mitakeet
@mitakeet Сағат бұрын
@@NOBOX7 Cost how? Go to a local ceramics school and ask them to make something from porcelain. Porcelain clay is likely way cheaper than inconel. And you can fire it yourself, if their kiln can't get hot enough (cone 10).
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
I herd alumina offer a catalytic effect to this reaction but havnt seen any literature on it as of yet . One of the smarter commenters brought it up
@hanswurst-h3e
@hanswurst-h3e 59 минут бұрын
@@NOBOX7 square alumina sheets are rather cheap, apparently they are consumables for flour mills and the like, but they at most can be used as heatshielding liner
@helipilotuh1
@helipilotuh1 Сағат бұрын
Get with a 3d printed suppressor company and see if they’ll sponsor the build to show off how superior their metallurgy is under high temps and preventing carbon buildup.
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
Thats the ideal way to build this . Bro we could do alien tech design features with that kinda tooling . Brilliant proposition friend
@34Qureshi
@34Qureshi 55 минут бұрын
I want you to keep experimenting and don't listen to people. Some just discourage who at least are making efforts
@2Cineman
@2Cineman Сағат бұрын
once its up to tempriture, would it also crack liquid fuels such as petrol, diesel, parafin or even waste oil?
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
A good design could pull it off but carbon build up is an issue . Yes you can crack liquid fuels but we may need more energy to do it . After all we was able to crack liquid propane and thats a freezing cold liquid
@d3fau1thmph
@d3fau1thmph 7 минут бұрын
@@NOBOX7 You'll have to design a DPF for buring off the coal ;-) (Or just blow oxygen through the heated duct instead of gas once in a while.
@SiliconeSword
@SiliconeSword Сағат бұрын
Can't you just wrap more tubing, and put it closer to the barrel? What about insulating the whole thing? It does seem like you may not be getting a full burn with whatever gas, but I wonder what it'd be like if you used hydrogen AND forced air or an oxygen input. I think I've seen an HHO torch video where this guy said he got like 5200f. His flame was orange, so even with oxygen added it's still burning rich
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
Yes it needs some insulation for sure . This design just isnt cutting it . The older design that worked had a 1 mm thick inner liner and you need that thin metal for those yellow hot heats
@SiliconeSword
@SiliconeSword 57 минут бұрын
@@NOBOX7 this'd be a sick thing to have 3D printed, but it'd be crazy expensive. Take a look at 3D printed suppressors, specifically OSS/HUXWRX ones and take a look at what's going on inside those. I'm sure you'd be able to do some gnarly stuff with that, and you'd be able to use inconel or whatever other crazy mix. Even with just regular stuff, I don't see why you couldn't have super deep "threads" cut into the inner liner and have a sleeve stuffed over that and welded to mimic coils. You could maybe even just do sleeved tubes with a maze type situation where the gas goes forwards and backwards a bit
@polygon2744
@polygon2744 2 сағат бұрын
I wonder what would happen if you run gases such as hydrogen through an ozone generator? It has been done and called hyzone. Hard to find what the effects of hyzone were. So imagine O2 through a high power ozone tube and hydrogen on it's own then mixed and burnt. Also wonder what would happen if you ran propane through a high power ozone tube. Would it crack it making lighter more energetic gas?
@polygon2744
@polygon2744 2 сағат бұрын
Would an high voltage Ozone tube electrostatically crack propane or other gases?
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
My buddy M3scal made that stuff one time . Would be neat to try those kinds of exotic fuel systems
@l.c.9524
@l.c.9524 2 сағат бұрын
You must figure out a way of building the combustion chamber of Incolnel or siC, quite i challenge. This time no hydrogen man.
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
Yeah it was a real bummer to do all that work . I like to show my failures so we can learn from them . I admit i failed in this video but the trolls have joined in to re re assure me that i failed LOL . They now claim the process is impossible not knowing we did it already with the older design . Pretty cool LOL
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
I wasnt reffuring to you by the way when i said They" came to re re assure me .
@l.c.9524
@l.c.9524 Сағат бұрын
@NOBOX7 I understand man I'm waiting for the day you publish a book. I watch your channel from when you where just f arround. Now it grew in methodical research and you make all that available for free. Stupids just increase entropy we all know that
@unknown-ql1fk
@unknown-ql1fk 2 сағат бұрын
Idk where he thought the hydrogen came from? It takes more energy to break the hydrogen off the propane than you get by burning the same hydrogen. In addition hydrogen is clear to pale blue when burning. In addition, the orange color is just carbon soot from incomplete combustion glowing at incandescent temperatures, this is usually the same for the bottles of h2 or the tanker was they are hardly pure. For a pure flame look at h2 rockets and tell me the hydrogen is orange. Still a neat design but no hydrogen
@l.c.9524
@l.c.9524 2 сағат бұрын
Hydrogen out of reforming, the energy equation will be the same. So the output of heat per kg of fuel will be same . What the previus burner was good is at packing that energy in a really dense spot.
@polygon2744
@polygon2744 Сағат бұрын
High voltage high frequency can crack gases. The Papp engine used cracked noble gasses. I think he use 100kv DC to treat the gasses. The treated gasses were stable after treatment. It discharged a needle point to do this.
@unknown-ql1fk
@unknown-ql1fk Сағат бұрын
The energy will not be the same. H2 or monotonic H will be far less energeticly favored, requiring more energy input than output. Additionally, the red heat and the flame ejecting out the front is the added energy you WOULD need, the radiant heat off this alone would be a net loss. What he has is a pressure boosted propane flame, much like the idea of an oxy fuel torch. After all, nobody is claiming an oxy acetylene torch is thermally decomposing the hydrogen off the hydrocarbon....and those flames will be *much* hotter than this
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
LOL you didn't see the other videos and your dead wrong . We produced hydrogen in the last couple videos just not in this test , no open flame gets 2,582 deg without oxygen enrichment buddy . I may be deleting your comment because you are so wrong . Go watch the other videos on this project . Hydrogen burns orange in most cases . It does not take more energy to break the propane bonds then that f the hydrogen is flat out wrong , We disected the last device and seen the carbon build up and the reduction of the metal .
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
Yeah im gonna delete you because your just flat out wrong
@prophetrob
@prophetrob 2 сағат бұрын
Fully oxidized Hydrogen flame is colorless to blue Your previous burner was orange because of uncombusted carbon since the air supply was too low. The flame was fuel rich In many ways you're wasting your time since just burning propane normally cracks the propane directly in the flame in the process of combusting
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
This comment is making you look bad . If propane cracks into hydrogen when it burns why dont we just show hydrogen flame temp for all hydrocarbon fuels ???? I may pin this comment .
@l.c.9524
@l.c.9524 Сағат бұрын
@@prophetrob Colour of that flame might come from the fart of the neighborn. Any impurity even at parts per billion will colour the flame. The point is not 150% efficiency, is energy density of the flame. How much energy I can pack in smallest area possible.
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
@@l.c.9524 So true Glad to have a voice of reason . I think people just like to argue LOL
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
That was not a fuel rich flame . It had over 10 cfm of air going in at 140 psi . Frekn wow dude , your confidence must get you laid daily ...
@prophetrob
@prophetrob 25 минут бұрын
​@@NOBOX7 what was the cfm of propane?
@ZeusJuri
@ZeusJuri Сағат бұрын
Why do you use Fahrenheit? Most of the world uses Celsius. Who the hell is supposed to convert it?
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 Сағат бұрын
I used Celsius several times in this video
@SiliconeSword
@SiliconeSword Сағат бұрын
We're American man, that's what we use. If it's interesting enough, just take 5 seconds and check on a calculator. The numbers aren't even important, it's the large difference that is
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