So I Forced My Friend to Play Touhou... (He has never played a bullet hell)

[@darksky363]

Ur friend zesty af

[@SlxxplessNights]

that's true

[@shiedr]

AHAHAH

[@snowy3877]

My man picked Sakuya and said something racist on stage 2 bro got in character real fast

[@inktouhou]

"Why not get put to sleep in an animal shelter" lowtiersakuya.png

[@Lemuel928]

Saying something wrong is a Reimu Thing.

[@snowy3877]

@@Lemuel928 its not racist if you hate everyone, but Sakuya just hates human so shes kinda racist

[@PikaZap]

​@@snowy3877but she's a human

[@snowy3877]

@@PikaZap i mean is she? Remi says that she doesnt know if Sakuya is even human. Even if she is what stops her from hating humans?

[@yogsothoth915]

There's no shame in being killed by Letty Whiterock, Sakuya told me she was the mastermind, so she's obviously a misplaced final boss. Thats probably why Yuyuko became a first boss in th13, as punishment for stealing Letty's rightful position.

[@azurill_sun]

It's like Rika! She's stage 1, but if I follow her I'd be dead!

[@cyroke_stg]

@@azurill_sun by me?

[@azurill_sun]

@@cyroke_stg ...you

[@CyberDagger003]

Canonically, by word of ZUN, Letty actually is powerful enough that she'd be worthy of a final boss position in a game. She just can't be arsed to start some big incident.

[@azurill_sun]

@@CyberDagger003 there's a Yu-Gi-Oh archetype that funnily enough, is a very reasonable stand-in for that Where a shrine maiden befriends the leader of the youkai only for both to be ambushed and overwhelmed by the Yuki-onna Not to mention the youkai leader has a purple and white palette, and uses a nine-tailed fox in battle

[@MegaTronen]

The touhou beginner pack: Say the game is easy on stage 1 and use a continue on stage 2 Complaining that you have to move with the arrow keys instead of WASD (I have played with WASD before and it just feels wrong) Missing all the big P Ramming into bullets you would impossibly die to normally

[@abder200]

and lets not forget the: "somehow dodges some insanly hard sections the unintended way like a god just to die to random bullets 8 seconds later"

[@akenohononiku916]

I like the arrow keys I play every game with them I just can't with WASD

[@akenohononiku916]

​@abder200 This is almost every Touhou player Somehow dodge an insane rain of bullets Then one stray bullet is like, "Hi, how are ya?" And proceeds to snipe you when you aren't looking

[@leurunner4764]

The pentagram was reassigned to have a demonic meaning in modern times. Before then, it was actually considered to ward off the demonic. It's why in Faust, Mephistopheles is trapped in Faust's house upon summoning. He can't leave through the door because there's a pentagram there.

[@leurunner4764]

I found the old german version. :" Mephiſtopheles: Geſteh’ ichs nur! daß ich hinausſpaziere Verbietet mir ein kleines Hinderniß, Der Drudenfuß auf eurer Schwelle - Fauſt. Das Pentagramma macht dir Pein? Ey ſage mir, du Sohn der Hoͤlle," The translation into modern English would be:" Mephistopheles: I must admit, that I can simply walk out, is prevented but by a small obstacle. The druid's foot on your threshold. Faust: The pentagram causes you pain? Hey. Tell me, son of hell,"

[@GabolateAnime]

what pentagram? i don't see any (if you are talking about the circles with stars, they are not pentagrams since they are not 5-pointed stars)

[@SubPriestPepsi]

did your friend hurt you???

[@SlxxplessNights]

He might have beat me a little too many times in Blazblue...

[@so_cool_so_cool]

wowie

[@internetlurker1850]

There's an in-lore reason for why they don't shoot walls, people are too damn OP and so the spellcard rules were made to keep the world from collapsing in on itself from people like "Suika "Can casually make black holes" Ibuki" or "Reimu "extradimensional being" Hakurei", so rules to make fights fair were made, which includes putting flaws in your attacks.

[@Xudmud]

And then along came Junko...

[@internetlurker1850]

@@Xudmud 🥲

[@akenohononiku916]

​@@XudmudIt's not a total wall, so it's still allowed (unfortunately)

[@SuperChrim]

I absolutely disagree with the sentiment that Touhou 13 is easy for newcomers. It’s only easy when you understand how to use spirit trance to your advantage. The bullet patterns may be easier but that means nothing if the player is starved for resources. Because not knowing how to play right means they’ll barely get any extra lives.

[@SlxxplessNights]

That's actually a point I brought up to him but I just decided to cut out of the video. By easy I meant the patterns are easy to dodge. I didn't really take the resources into THAT much consideration since I was letting him use continues anyway and wanted to see how he'd do against the less dense patterns of TD.

[@AllVoiceHowdy]

i can confirm, as a 13 starter. It's not a good start Q~Q

[@appleando752]

Still a better start than the game I started with... Touhou 1.

[@lazydelibird]

I think 14 or 7 is the easiest for newcomers. (14 if the person was told of how point of collection works). 14 gives you a cartoonish amount of resources if you know your pathing while 7 is much more simplified with gaining lives based on points. There’s also the supernatural border that can really come in clutch for newbies.

[@SuperChrim]

@@lazydelibird Absolutely agree. 7 and 14 are my best picks as well.

[@Huxley_Day]

That's your hit box. What is that? Oooooohhhhhhh, he might as well just give up by that point.

[@AJD558]

fun fact, the touhou 13 stage 4 boss shoots those electric things at you but... they're actually fetuses, thats right, she shoots electric fetuses at you, the name of her final spellcard also references this fact Path Sign "Tao Fetal Movement" keyword: fetal meaning fetus

[@MajraMangetsu]

THE FUCK ???

[@mushroomsrcool1449]

@@MajraMangetsu "BEHOLD, MY ELECTRIC DEATH FETUSES!!!"

[@Tulipia5]

3:26 Touhou was never an arcade game, but it did had that feeling in the PC98 Also, you can change the controls, but only recently it was changed to inside the game itself instead of chaving to use the config file to custom your game (although, idk if it applies for EoSD and the early ones)

[@blue_the_boy_kisser]

9:10 the fact that Alice's name is Romanian 💀 12:17 Also! Worth pointing out that there are several points in the series where not shooting for some periods is a good way to control the progressions of patterns... though morr often than not it doesn't affect casual playthroughs lol.

[@SlxxplessNights]

I hereby retract my statement and apologize to all Romanians out there

[@yogsothoth915]

Romanian or not, she will always be Alice Megatron in my heart.

[@blue_the_boy_kisser]

@@yogsothoth915 based lol

[@elkapi7764]

Her last name also comes from a character in an Agatha Christie novel. The creator ZUN’s quite a fan of Agatha. EoSD extra boss Flandra has a ton of references to her works

[@Lemuel928]

Alice has been to Roma before?

[@simpsitandmore2908]

Nice video, its fun seeing your your friend experience a Touhou game for the first time. But not gonna lie, the commentary was funny as h*Il.

[@friendlyneighborhoodshinigami]

15:13 well actually lorewise they have to follow spellcard rules so they cant make danmaku impossible to dodge

[@CosmicButterfly2]

Touhou 15 stage 6 also has a reason not to shoot. The enemies don't fire projectiles unless you kill them.

[@itzmefurzan]

Your friend is really chill How about next time it's your friend turn to force you to play something

[@SlxxplessNights]

If he really wants to make me do it then i will comply ;)

[@ssjcrafter8842]

and so, another victim is drawn into the lunatic rabbit hole... no easy mode? but that way we can't make jokes... it's too late to tell that I guess but... generally the lore is spring is taken away and you go investigate collecting spring along the way(the last boss is a ghost and the one who wants to make a tree bloom to revive her body/herself because she doesn't know it's her body/herself sealed in the tree) continues aren't bad for the first clear and for learning a stage in my opinion... which also made the not using continue accidentally part hurt me I find it funny how you it ended up with your friend using the 5th stage boss of the game he was just attempting(he was also close to meeting the character) and the first boss he meets being the last boss of the last game he tried...(also fun fact, Yuyuko has the most spell cards out of any stage 1 boss, so she at least still has SOME prestige) 13:38 fun fact, this character uses fetus magic Sanae's pentagram is a reference to Abe No Seimei(Chen also references him and his pentagram), and it refers to the 5 phases and how they effect each other(onmyoudo thing stemming from taoism technically...) about 3D Touhou... I recommend your friend to watch MinusT's animations, they're amazing and do a good job translating the patterns to 3D I look forward to the next sacrific- I mean, to the next time your friend tries playing Touhou by the way, almost 2K subs, congrats!

[@FloatCommitted]

I love your touhou videos! I clicked as soon as I got this notif

[@SlxxplessNights]

Glad to hear! :D

[@thangnguyenduy2608]

Love your videos, and love your thumbnail arts too!

[@SlxxplessNights]

Awww thank you so much! Genuinely means a lot to me fr :O

[@Raltze_]

i love your friend lol, he was actually willing to play the game and you guys were having fun. w vid i like your touhou content

[@atwistedb]

Forcing someone to play Touhou as their first bullet hell is a true form of torture

[@Not_Nik0]

guess I tortured myself 👍

[@akenohononiku916]

Isn't better than like, a CAVE game? Most shmups aren't bullet hell imo, so the only bullet hells I know are Touhou and CAVE

[@atwistedb]

@akenohononiku916 The difference is making someone play something like DoDonPachi as their first bullet hell is really funny, they at least have more then a chance with touhou

[@TheSuriel]

Touhou SHMUP is like going outside during a heavy rain without an umbrella and hoping not to get wet

[@HyperVanilo]

Blud don't realize that Touhou isn't the only bullet hell game

[@swampcooler8332]

Have him play lunatic on one stage I don't even care which game

[@SlxxplessNights]

Should have done that ngl

[@mslabo102s2]

At least they didn't get into Lunatic head-on.

[@jastintheceooffinanasapost6204]

lore of the th7: Basically yuyuko wants to unseal the saigyou ayakashi, a youkai tree, so she goes to [DATA SPOILED] to mess with the spring boundary so she can collect said spring to make it do a full bloom, what she thinks will unseal the Tree and resurrect a certain someone And the touhas are like: godamnid, is cold af, so they go deal with the incident

[@smollilnub3644]

Great video! Glad to drag more into the rabbit hole

[@fumo_enjoyer9]

Dude is like me Frfr. He so focus he become high

[@AllVoiceHowdy]

4:29 Focusing Frfr

[@Your_RandomOtaku]

Yo, wake up bro, new sleepless video just dropped.

[@meowymeowz3948]

heres a tip for beginners: generally in most situations, the chances of you getting hit are lower than the chances of you getting hit. I wouldn't recommend using this for things such as 1cc runs and extra stages

[@Macvairass]

4:28 that MOAN!

[@jba2048]

The majority of the answers to the friends questions were “I don’t know”; I feel like what I just watched was a guy who doesn’t know 2hu getting another guy who doesn’t know 2hu to play 2hu.

[@meowymeowz3948]

I have never played the game, but i still get the experience of it by watching a death compilation

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

15:13 Spell Card Rules: -_-

[@Serminator30]

In my opinion, i would describe the first Touhou as Tennis-based Shoot em up game. I mean Reimu used her Ying-yang orb like a Tennis Ball.

[@YuutaTogashi0707]

The button config is for controllers I like playing with a ps3 controller

[@besotteds]

the keyboard sounds are very nice

[@Telley_429]

i did the same thing with one of my friends recently i forced her to play touhou ufo and now she hates kogasa

[@spaghettiking7312]

You introduced him to the greatest series.

[@Ruckus707]

*puts on nerdiest pair of glasses* ummmm acshually you’re collecting cherry blossoms because spring has gone missing 🤓 Nah but as someone who has been wanting to get into Touhou for a bit now, your videos have been a major catalyst in me actually trying them out, and what do you know I’m having a blast! I even ended up checking out other bullet hells, like Danmaku Unlimited 3, so thanks for that, I can’t wait to see more in the future

[@thepanman674]

Bruh your friend sounds high asf i love it

[@Flandre-Scarlet]

Unlocking and beating extra stages when

[@ahoyforsenchou7288]

The zoomer energy is peak in this one.

[@neepha7324]

I was about to tell mom about your friends comments but then i saw that bocchi shirt and i had to rethink it

[@yurendra14]

yoo this is cool, but how about you make your friend play touhou 6 first? maybe for some little pre-pration reflect especialy with the hitbox issue, and yeah if you dont mind my suggestion for new player to start in touhou is th 6 (reflect & hitbox pratice)->touhou 7 (just normal shmups and simple mechanic)->touhou 14 or 17 (this is not for everyone, but for me, if you have have a good basic, this two should be easy to cleared), and yeah im happy that your friend have seriousness and respect for your invitation (or you forced him, i don know haha) to play touhou as far as he can and dont give up in a minute, he even enjoyed it even as a joke haha, i hope in my new year i have a friend like you that like to play atleast a more long enough play touhou with me, cause not many people in my class (or just me..) who take touhou seriously while when im introduce touhou to a people they reaaction when i give them a try to play was "ohh yeah its cool, but hard..what the hell is this game...oh yeah..." and then..they leave, just that, thx for reading

[@yurendra14]

also good thumbnail, do you draw it?

[@SlxxplessNights]

i personally find 14 on the harder end but maybe I'm just bad :< Also yeah I drew the thumbnail :D

[@Darkusaido]

6? Don't spoil players because newer games are way harder

[@CassiusStelar]

THE ALICE MARG-INATOR

[@IvanBaAl961]

Touhou 1 would be a great choice to start from.

[@xyzhz02]

dillon brooks shanghai sharks

[@SlxxplessNights]

ni hao dillon brooks

[@png32]

Make him play Touhou 15

[@yukariyakumo9407]

nah thats dirty

[@AltraHapi]

Needless torture

[@SMA11OWL]

This is peak

[@lorenzorentniop717]

Yes

[@kalenipclaw5683]

fun fact: "Margatroid" comes from the real surname "Murgatroyd", and both have the same japanese transliteration, so "Margatroid" may be an error instead of intentional

[@yukariyakumo9407]

yesss new touhou vid

[@chronoreverse]

Margatroid is likely just a mispelling of Murgatroyd which actually is an English name.

[@ghostdoggo4057]

You did not call Erika that-

[@SlxxplessNights]

This type of comparison is only possible for SleeplessNights

[@ghostdoggo4057]

@@SlxxplessNights I despise you (affectionate)

[@nghiatri-cf9qn]

They Not Revive The God It Yuyuko Who Try Revive Herself if u dont know the one who get seal in the tree is her self it just shse is human and already died and got seal in that tree

[@Nocturne50]

You should've forced him to play Touhou 15

[@DIO.S_STANDAH]

Did you whip them?

[@averageinactiveperson]

sadism

[@Dukstless]

Continue system is a carry over from arcade games yes, except being bad does not cause your wallet to fucking die. I believe a lot of the character names are ones aren't common nowadays, even the Japanese ones (Sanae is one of the few exceptions). Like fuck, Tewi is so old that modern people would spell her name Tei (though both spellings are pronounced the same). Chen and the Yakumo gang are named after Chinese words for colors (Chen is orange, Ran is indigo and Yukari is purple), so there's a theme here at least. In older games you can only rebind if you have a joystick... or via some external executable that I don't remember the name of. On not shooting, remember that midboss overwrites enemy waves as long it's alive; sometimes stalling out the midboss attacks is easier than the enemy waves that would show up in their place. About the Touhou lore... it wasn't really that estabilished at the time of PCB. Like if I really remember right, Reimu has no idea who the fuck Yukari is in PCB's Phantasm stage, even though she should. Or how in the backstory to EoSD, the barrier that separates Gensokyo does not exist, the mist just casually goes towards the outside world. Good ol' early installment weirdness. -Oh yeah also PC98 seems to have been more important I guess, given some of the backstory comments.- Things only really kicked up around like... PoFV/MoF? Anyway, in the wise words of Mystic Square player evaluation screen... "Start being serious Use bombs to survive"

[@Satsat0730]

You should've made him play LoLK

[@tastefullynerdy1161]

I will not accept Yuyuko slander :(

[@randommaster06]

Completely ignoring the Stage 1 boss. Are you sure your friend isn't a Touhou fan?

[@okguy167]

There's no shame in using continues as a beginner. There is shame in using them on a game you practiced on, though.

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

Nah i pass

[@NamiokaHime1109]

Oid

[@bloom-mania]

touhou aint a bullet hell its a shmup ;)

[@evanmak7837]

same difference lol STG,shmup,bullet hell, bullet curtain, danmaku, they all mean the same thing

[@bloom-mania]

@@evanmak7837 pretty much i was just being a dick tbh idk why i even posted that

[@HyperVanilo]

@@evanmak7837 Not really, there are many types of Shmup like Vertical, Horizontal, Rail shooter, cute 'em up, run and gun etc, Bullet hell is one of those sub-genres

[@IEatHats]

I never really realized how polished the newer ones looked.