So THIS is what BRONZE Lifeweaver Looks like... | Overwatch 2 Spectating

[@spacecowboy7193]

I love that whenever somebody does the dumbest thing ever, Emongg is like “whomst among us has not solo ulted a stop sign in a lost fight to ensure the kill?” Such a man of the people.

[@WolfRites]

I had a shitty day yesterday, and TWICE I misjudged Tracer blink, and went into the Well on Ilios. I am a master DPS. We've all done the dumbest thing ever. ;)

[@tofu1639]

I May or May not have used my ult on accident and we needed the ult to win basically. I used the ult after the next to last fight was already won

[@spacecowboy7193]

@@tofu1639 relatable

[@empressofhearts7300]

I mar or may have not got my kitsune rush stuck in the payload a couple of times. Diamond Support.

[@DinosaurSuccess]

this game is so fucking hard and mistiming something by one second can be the difference between a genius game winning play and the most pathetic stupid thing anyones ever done

[@qasw1234]

My absolute favorite thing is when I pull my teammates to cover when they're critical and they just run right back in without waiting to be healed and instantly die

[@gentlemankaiju1997]

Bruh.... A Ram yelled at me cause he would dive in with no team and I'd pull when he was dying. He thought his anchor arms could take a 1v5.

[@Real_MisterSir]

most often people had an intention and rarely let go of that intention immediately, so when you pull them away they still are stuck with the same intention as prior, now they just have to cover even more ground to achieve their goal. Like, notice how people (especially in lower ranks) keep gravitating towards the objective even when it's not their business to be there. You can pull them away, that won't change their inert desire to feel like they are contributing physically on the objective. Generally it's better to pull people who already show signs that they know they're fucked and desperately search for a way out. At least in the metal ranks.

[@GarnetDust24]

This happens all the time and all I can do is laugh

[@ace_7901]

mercy fighting off flankers should be on future bingo cards, considering how much we see it happen in spectating bronze 😅

[@miggyluv]

Yes or Mercy just left alone to deal with those flankers. Bronze Mercy play can be a lonely place.

[@excalibur_k]

Was playing with my bronze friends yesterday, got stuck on healer and had to keep killing the flanking tracer as mercy while calling out tracer behind. It’s like they have 0 object permanence lol

[@GrunkPunk]

“supports take matters in there own hands”

[@angie2932]

i didnt do enough damage when i was a mercy main which is why i switched from her to play ana/brig (also bc of the ga nerf)

[@QueenaCobra]

@@angie2932 surprisingly her pistol does a decent amount of damage and in bronze if you find yourself with a team that is stuck they cannot push forward if you just stand in the back line and just screw the staff and keep that pistol out and you just keep shooting from the back line you can help finish off the whole team. You can also clear them right out of an area. I’m not sure if this works in silver or any higher up but it most definitely works in bronze. Battle Mercy can be a tad scary sometimes to bronze players lol

[@masoclevine836]

I used to think that LW’s deficient heals and damage would make sense considering his utility, but indeed his incredibly long cooldowns and his dependency on teammates just makes him a wifeleaver (also the silliest ult in the game)

[@d00mnoodle62]

His ult is underrated, it adds up to a lot of healing

[@totakkeagiraffe]

@D00m noodle yeah idk why people meme on it so hard it turns a lot of team fights in my experience. i especially like how he was using the tree to block the kitsune rush off at some parts / give his team a leg up against that ult. idk, to me, that's a good play

[@skinnysnorlax1876]

It's good aoe heals and cover with a long duration. It's probably the best part of his kit I don't mean to be hyperbolic, but his utility is so situational that I think you could legitimate halve the cooldown of pull and platform and he would still not feel overtuned

[@AIMusicFF]

The best part is if u want to Play genji and u blade and than Life Weiner just pulls u back

[@kassandraofodyssey6475]

@@totakkeagiraffe Unfortunately it’s not worth it when Wifeleaver is the one that has it, and right now he’s so incredibly underpowered he’s an auto loss pick.

[@lilyfuntanilla1992]

Hey! I was the lifeweaver in this video. Thanks for spectating it!

[@grandheroking]

it's embarrassing how many times i've put my ult in the wrong spot. i mean, how do you *miss* with a tree?? it's my specialty apparently

[@demi8neko557]

We're in for a treat

[@chac6957]

Unless you play in a highly coordinated team, petal platform is better off being used as a reposition tool for yourself. That's what I believe.

[@introvart3394]

"After you use the flower pedal you NEED the flower pedal" 🤣 everytime

[@nonmagicalwitch]

nyanbinary has to be one of the best names I've ever seen

[@Nerbatsu]

I think thorns need a projectile speed buff. People can just move sideways and avoid the shots even in close range. You cant shoot from the pedal since its so ineffective. The best you can do is do what bap does and shoot through teammates while healing but bap does that way better.

[@hammadvulgar5884]

In one tricking lifeweaver for 20 hours and reaching silver 2, I can pretty soundly say that he is glorified mercy

[@ChriSaito]

I like when chat dogpiled on VikingKong_ near the end there. Chat drama is the best.

[@bananapowers85]

😂 Hope this blows up

[@strawberrygemz2020]

I hope its alright to say, emongg looks GREAT with a beard, very flattering!

[@FenekkuKitsune]

For me the pull is like an if statement if target.hasWarning (Do they have the critical hp warning? The plus overlay or are otherwise at critical hp?) then if target.isInCombat (Are they actively fighting something or getting shot at, or are in danger of being shot at?) then target.pull() (Pull the target) else target.oneShot (Are they in one-shot range?) then target.pull() (Pull the target) My brain doesn't always interpret it like that, especially the one-shot range. It's hard for me to differentiate between "they will get hit more than I can heal them" versus "I can heal them through this", especially as I don't want to pull them out of a winnable situation and have them get annoyed.

[@FenekkuKitsune]

Also, as for petal, I use it very selfishly. I've learned that it's basically impossible to get people to use the petal well without comms, because they'll walk on it and instantly walk off. As a result, what I've started doing is using it solely as a survival and mobility tool. Now, there are situations where I'll still use it. Teammate shattered? Lift is better than pull. But outside of that it's just... Not worth for teammates to use it. I mean, I'll preplace it for highground or peeking potential, but nine times out of ten I'll be the one using it. As an aside, I had a game once where a Moira wasted my platform. I placed it because our Soldier was up on the highground where the payload goes under the bridge area, and I was gonna use it if he needed help to pull him down. The Moira decided "Y'know what, I'm gonna use this to look cool" and stood on it. I saw the critical hp warning on Soldier soon after, I look up at the Moira and she's just... Standing there. The platform was still on cd so the Soldier died. I went into chat and told the Moira that she wasted my platform so I couldn't save the Soldier and her response was, and I quote, "The Soldier shouldn't be so shit". I was flabbergasted. What's hilarious is that at the end of the game the Soldier said, and I quote, "Thanks for trying, LW, Moira you're a moron".

[@yoonghoul2317]

glad the soldier had ur back 😭

[@FenekkuKitsune]

The same thing can happen with LG too, where you grip someone to save them and the instant you grip them they use a movement and break it, killing themselves. I'm all for allies being able to break the grip, helps prevent trolling and gives an out for the target, but some people I've tried saving it's just "why". Like that one Mercy recently that was midway to me and decided to GA towards me the rest of the way and promptly got killed.

[@edb36mar]

I damage usually for poke, to me the wider spread was better cause it was harder to dodge and it fit more of the vision I saw for him. You really just wanna keep as many people on the enemy team as possible below max hp, orrrr you want to keep a specific person a team mate is engaging below max hp and have them maybe waste a few resources. The issue with this new damage which I know everyone loves the new dps changes, but you either have to be REAALLLY close or REAALLY FAR and give into the fall off so your not really adding anything. When everyone has full hp IMMEDIATELY switch to dpsing and start going for a aggressive play on a target and do not hesitate. Now obviously the issue with this is if your engagement fails and you say don't have a main support you have to start "charging" the healing blossom again which is a huge detriment.

[@flcon16]

Basically every second of this game is "wow, they'd be getting so much value if they were on Kiriko right now"

[@MrZega000]

Amusing Lifeweaver anecdote: Defending on Watchpoint, Other support was Zen, We make it to the first cart checkpoint during setup, I pull him up to high ground, Zen immediately leaves. Who hurt you, Zen?

[@kassandraofodyssey6475]

You did apparently lol

[@Real_MisterSir]

this is 2023 my dude you can't just pull people to the high ground without their consent

[@sethescope]

maybe you forgot to shower that day and zen thought you were stinky?

[@OGTahoe3]

I've been trying to use Lifeweaver more and I'd say that stat line wise he matches up with mercy in terms of low low damage but good or better heals. For base healing I hardly go to 65 it feels alot more efficient to get to around 50

[@karamei]

But Mercy is brought for her damage boost utility, so her healing numbers SHOULD be lower in favor of that sweet damage amp.

[@Real_MisterSir]

nobody picks Mercy for her heals tho..

[@sometujr6891]

@@Real_MisterSir clearly you haven’t seen bronze

[@nielsholmlassen8275]

But like mercy has damage boost, res and good mobility while lifeweaver just doesn't go at the same pace as everyone else. Like ok he has more heals then mercy, so what? If you want a lot of heals then pick ana or bap they just outheal all the other supports... And like you provide more for your team and yourself with literally every other support.

[@nielsholmlassen8275]

@@sometujr6891 Yeah... Only people in lower ranks actually pick mercy for heals for a reason... If one wants a lot of healing the best picks are ana or bap.

[@ZeroKami86]

Why does Kiriko's Suzu heal but Life Grip not? Seems like this LW will use Grip on crit allies only to have them die beside him.

[@Real_MisterSir]

cus suzu is op lmao

[@ball.3841]

Suzu heals?

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@ball.3841 yea instant 50hp if I'm not mistaken -so not significant but still a factor to keep in mind especially for squishies

[@Maceventur]

is easiest way to use the platform as wifeleaver is to gripp someone up (but for that u have to throw it to a corner so they got cover up there) or for the supports to go up BEFORE someone flanks otherwise they stand up there with u a first good change would be moveable platform so he can controll it midair

[@Lilian040210]

I find the best way to heal as LW is to go til around 30 heals, charging to max is too slow, anything faster is barely healing anything, around 30 seems to be the best heal amount+rate ratio

[@aspenture1087]

What would you think if lifeweavers thorns did say 20 damage over 2 seconds as poison and if you could store 2 full charge heals and use them and when you use them to heal someone you give them 15 or 20% dr for 10 seconds maybe? This would also give tanks an answer to discord orb (since I’ve seen a lot of people complaining about discord orb wanting it removed or reworked and stuff) and maybe the grip could give people 50% dr for 2.5-5 seconds and make them take 50% more healing or something? I play discipline priest on WoW and it’s be interesting to have a more dr like healer in OW and cause of his utility he just kinda gives me disc priest vibes a bit. Or maybe his ult could give 10% dr when someone is healed by it. Idk.

[@bananapowers85]

Hmmmm…

[@TwistedAttitudes]

People talk about his heals being bad but I regularly get 10k or higher healing in my games As other people have been saying: Petal takes too much coordination to use it to it's full potential with randoms (even when you pre-place it for use later sometimes people will just walk over it and not actually use it) Petal functionality might be better if they made it function more like Horizon lift from Apex legends, so that if you lift a teammate and they run off they can get back onto it and go up again. It would be a shame to lose the cover it provides though. Unsure how to combine the two.

[@TheMCmace]

Fun fact: What he mention’s at the start of the game applies also to plat Everyone stands in the open and starts to run around like headless chicken

[@dr.geeses7863]

You save petel platform for yourself. You can rise above dva mom, junkrat tire, zarya grav, rein shatter, ECT... Save it for more of your mobility. Save pull for either ults depending on enemy team comp or in dire needs early fight where you can save a tank from death

[@duckseatbread104]

Those petals 😅. Use them selfishly to escape flanks and you never die is deffo the nest use more often than not. Or to rain down heals during team fignts

[@gentlemankaiju1997]

I love playing Weaver although he's mid. One thing I noticed is that ppl think he's a tree and stay in one spot. Feel like he's more like mercy where gotta keep moving, balance distance, elevation and cooldowns constantly. His micromanagement is half the fun for me.

[@ZaWrldo]

I've never seen so high noon consistently get kills every usage

[@skrrrtsusman3450]

issue with pull is that ppl don't use it like i use it, i pull aggressively, like pulling bastion that just transformed to an off angle on high, or pull to force someone to peel and help you take out a flanker

[@Waffl3B1T]

Bronze wife stealer, this is gonna be good

[@stormRed]

Yesterday I had a LW put down a platform for me as junkrat on ecopoint Antarctica (right behind the wall), and it enabled me to get some real sneaky kills.

[@huepeople]

"Is that a window? I wanna go see."

[@curliousoakshield2889]

you should make a possible "spectate cheater" bingo.

[@nielsholmlassen8275]

Like the thing is that when watching this gameplay I constantly think of what more he could be doing on like ana or baptiste, it just feels like one can't do anything on lifeweaver...

[@ToadimusPrime]

Bronze players practice chaos on the battlefield. If you don't know what you're doing, no way the enemy will ever predict it!

[@MrXxblackopsxX]

I thought this was just going to be Emongg spectating Fitzy

[@Lilian040210]

19:00 are we just going to ignore 2 Mercies dueling it out? 😂

[@Anonymous-dx6gg]

I am not GM but where is my bottle of holy water when I need one 😂

[@annie0280]

u should make the comments on stream semi see through, like the black bc a lot the screen is blocked

[@mayonasepizza]

Oh no is lifewesver the new mid ladder menace (broken in lover ranks, but crap in high)

[@smokinxeno]

Honestly thought he was gonna spectate Fitzy.

[@T4NN34]

Picking lifeweaver automatically puts your game sense on bronze

[@tokeslaszlo6783]

Very good vid as Always

[@centralcheese]

You damage as lifeweaver when youre whole team is dead

[@CyanAblaze]

Bronze players are the actual chads. Hold in the open, spam abilities, don't use abilities, use ult, don't use ult. What do we do? Whatever we feel like doing.

[@nielsholmlassen8275]

At 8:00 he uses the petal platform to get up and yeah ok he used it to get positioning, and then sees the unaware junkrat and he literally can't do anything to said junkrat I can't help but be like you could've just gone bap and did the same play with your exoboots and gotten infinately more value.

[@iNefarious]

Dudes name is “Nustabut” 😂😂

[@TheMCmace]

Life weavers right click heal feels so bad You have to charge it up or else it heals almost nothing The feeling if charging up the heals also feels insane bad

[@ralphforbes5807]

Ah lifeweaver, two months later...still an unfortunate pick lol I had hopes he looked fun but sadly disappointment is all i feel 😂

[@AIMusicFF]

Yes, this is infact my bronze teammate

[@g.l.rgaming6369]

He is only doing full bloom healing......he needs to try and do smaller amounts from time to time to avoid that lag in game. Imo that is

[@TheDegenerateLord]

were you watching this live? could they hear you?

[@TheDegenerateLord]

Think that was cause That Soundern was over there missing.. So no one noticed him. lol or he was only shooting at mercy and their not miced. I know when im playing ball and niggas ignore me i feel very disrespected and start using my guns!

[@Than211]

This guy using petal like Ana grenades.... except it doesn't do anything LOL.

[@ugl200]

Why can't I get these types of lobbies, everytime I play comp I get placed against literal gods while my team is full of people that are playing there first match

[@iitzaidan8208]

Tbh in lower elo lifeweaver is considered a throw pick. Lower elo players don’t understand “support”, they see 65 max healing per primary they think; hey this is garbage.

[@lcarrier652]

They were too agressive ehen they should be more assertive LW should be playimg corners. An use his platform to make escapes. The also didmt seem to know you can jump at the end of platform to get a boost. The best way to do dmg with LW is to kill confirm for team mates. Your tanks dueling another tank but his cds are gone and the enemy is low thorn volly em. That pesky flank fps is figing your cowboy and he just hot them.with a sticky bomb thorn volley to send em home. Its not worth it if you dont have good aim to stay on for head shots.

[@johnmcauliffe8824]

I feel like this guy could be a higher rank if he played a character that was actually useful, like kiriko

[@MrZyrno]

I would rather see ability couldowns than the chat tbh.

[@TheBarkShark]

Mercy is going for Sojourn because all the rest of the team has shitty music blasting in their headphones or their room and they cannot hear her shooting or running up behind. Notice they never react to the footsteps we all hear around them. #BronzePlayers

[@6l97]

oh god not wifeleaver

[@stayforrever]

this has to be good

[@xabrias]

Oh crap...

[@TheJogobella]

Ahh wife leaver gameplay

[@CSistooshort]

Bro where the hell are you getting all-bronze games I’m getting mostly gold and diamond players in my games and I don’t even have a rank yet (haven’t won 5 or lost 15)💀

[@MAML_]

its a replay of someone else who is in bronze

[@CSistooshort]

@@MAML_ I know that but where are these games coming from, I don’t get any bronze-only

[@aeloh6921]

Well if you're still unranked then that's why. When you're unranked the game puts you against players of various skill to see where you fit in. Once you're placed things will settle down.

[@CSistooshort]

@@aeloh6921 oh thanks, (I’m quite new to overwatch, only started in Overwatch 2 (Oct))

[@Suicidalsheep]

Idk wtf I’ve been watching 😂

[@braunporter1941]

Again, support supports the damage and tank, not to kill ever player on the other team. placement matters

[@Real_MisterSir]

At least half the time this LW player is griefing his own team lmao this hero kit is so bad

[@miggyluv]

Why do people not ask "when should I do damage" as a mercy player? Surely it's the same thing. LW is primarily a healer, and his damage is intended to be used as a last resort like Mercys. No?

[@edb36mar]

It is directly a part of his kit is the difference. Pistol isn't a primary part of mercy.

[@miggyluv]

@@edb36mar it was designed and intended to be used like Mercy's though. It was only changed because of the backlash.

[@edb36mar]

@@miggyluv it was and I can see the vision and what they thought. The issue is down time, in overwatch you want to constantly be doing something anything. Lifeweaver actually has a option, when his healing is reloading or he does not beed to heal his other option IS dpsing it's throne volley it is a integral part of his kit simply because of the nature of how he is designed. Mercy has blue beam she if someones max hp mercys don't immediately pull out there pistols, it's not like her healing needs to automatically reload while her pistol is out........ ANNNNDDD here's where we have lifeweavers issue. Because as of now there so sit on this vision of not wanting him to be this big amazing game changing dps, there forgetting that they have MADE IT to where his kit works that way simply because of how he is "Actually" designed and how he actually plays outside of there vision.

[@miggyluv]

@@edb36mar oh I agree. He was designed and released one way, but after a backlash they have changed certain elements leaving him in a strange hybrid state that is a little better than before but still not quite working. They need to go away and rethink him some more. Mercy's primary and secondary make perfect sense and is easy to use. Same with Moira's, give and take. LW just feels clunky. His heals are too slow and not strong enough and his damage is too light.

[@givesbeetdip0055]

You wanna see a gold lifeweaver? 👀

[@gamerpro413]

this is the definition of wifeleaver

[@gamerpro413]

also first

[@TJMcGOAT]

Bro liked his own comment 💀

[@orls9068]

@@TJMcGOAT I gave him a like 👍 😮

[@FlareOW]

Hi

[@ARQ328]

I am a bronze lifeweaver and I am a million times batter then this guy😢I do 12 to 21 k healing and I am steal on bronze even with kiriko 12 to 20k heal steal bronze 😢

[@MAML_]

stats dont equal skill

[@orls9068]

You gotta pick up Moira, you will climb, I was bottom 500 before. You have to be healer and damage dealer too, Kiriko is high skill I hardly touch her because I just don't do enough damage on her.

[@QuantumKale]

I love you Bry. Cm😂😂. I’m high anf

[@QuantumKale]

I think you guy of they try M

[@QuantumKale]

Yupp 😊

[@dennisyoung6122]

Ragging on his damage the entire video, despite being the 3rd highest out of all supports.

[@givesbeetdip0055]

This is low teir lifeweaver plays not good at all haha