Society Of The Snow VS Alive - Which Movie Is Better & The True Story?

[@BrainPilot]

Which movie did you prefer out of Society Of The Snow and Alive? Let me know your thoughts below!

[@damerochelle4014]

I saw both movies and before Society of the Snow, I was so taken away by the movie Alive. It had emotional impact, but since the other movie's debut, I think it is the better of the two for the outstanding special effects and make up on the actors. Constrasted to the move Alive, they were too "clean" looking. The director's many well thought out special effects and expert attention to detail made Society of the Snow a movie to appreciate. I may watch it again but I said that it was too painful to watch for a second time. It is still incredible that these men came out of that unimaginable predicament "alive."

[@erikaol1091]

I watched "Survive" from 1976, "Alive" from 1993 and my favorite is "Society of the Snow"!

[@TenLa05]

I am surprised it didn’t win Oscar 💔

[@Valentaein]

Society of the Snow is objectively a better movie and it’s a faithful adaptation to what actually happened according to the survivors themselves, some of whom made cameos in the film. I’m from Uruguay and I’ve known this story since I was a kid. This movie is a masterpiece. Thank you J.A. Bayona for this amazing tribute to the heroes who survived, but more importantly to the ones that didn’t make it like Numa 🤍

[@jonanderinmccabe5872]

⁠@@damerochelle4014 I agree with you. Alive is obviously a little glossier, a little glibber Hollywood portrayal of the events but was the first movie that made me moved by someone’s story. I was 11 and I NEEDED to tell people about this like “did you know this happened?” Society is my favorite as it’s moved me tremendously but Alive will always have a special place in my heart for opening me up to the human stories of those in other places ❤

[@Caroline-rv8wy]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the effect that having Uruguayan and Argentinean actors speaking in Spanish had on the Society of the Snow. I loved Alive, but looking back on it after seeing Society, it's just so ridiculously American and missing that accurate cultural feel that Society has, even down to them talking about all the South American foods they miss, whereas in Alive they kept talking about pizza.

[@BlitzOfTheReich]

Milanesssssaaaa no joda!

[@maximilianogutierrez329]

And the way they dink mate !!!

[@alejandromolinac]

You can always watch the Spanish Dub…..

[@Arx_7]

i'm pretty sure the spanish dub was made in Mexico @@alejandromolinac

[@joaquito-fletes]

​​​@@alejandromolinacWell, yes but no. Having watched "Alive" plane crash scene (in latin spanish dub) I can help but to think how innacurate the use of idioms is. Since it's a american movie whose dub was probably recorded in Mexico, the voices and words weren't accurate to the uruguayan accent, common expressions and general way of talking. The "Alive" script was written in neutral spanish without any hint to the Uruguayan culture.(in uruguay as any other country we got our own idioms which are very characteristic like "ta", "bo", "dale", guri", etc) a fact that is just distracting and less inmersive. By the other hand, "The society of snow" did an amazing casting job in that sense. As well, the script writing was done in order to be the most accurate possible, using every tool that "Alive" lacked of in a effort to a create a more inmersive and realistic product. So, in summary, "Alive" is a good but less inmersive movie mainly because of this dub problem. The society of snow however prove itself to be the most accurate and representative movie from the bunch that covers this unbelivable story. Psdta: I know it's a pretty long comment, but I tried to analize everything I could. As well I am a uruguayan myself and that means I am passionate about everything and that includes giving my opinion. en resumen URUGUAY NOMAAAA (perdon por hacerla tan larga)

[@TheNatty1009]

Fun facts: -The man that holds the door open at the airport is Fernando Parrado, one of the survivors that went down the mountain. -The person reading the names of the survivors at the end is Carlitos Páez another survivor, portraying his father Carlos Páez Vilaró, who continued the search for them after the official search was called off. -One of the doctors at the end is also a survivor, Roberto Canessa the other guy that went down the mountain. As a Uruguayan the depth of meaning this story holds for us is indescribable-it stands as one of the most compelling tales of survival and perseverance.

[@manonlaviggne1085]

I also recognized the cameos

[@EmilFoghVids]

In Alive, the real Nando Parrado can be seen portraying the coach of the rugby team in one of the photos at the beginning.

[@MrQhuin]

I noticed them too at the end

[@mafeguzman7066]

The fact that Nando was opening the door for his (in the movie) mother and sister 😭

[@Julie-p6u6m]

Having watched a lot of documentaries on this story I noticed that immediately and thought how cool that was ❤

[@c8miterio]

another thing i really loved is how the characters looked sick, it didn't look like just makeup, they looked SICK

[@LautaroTessi]

Best makeup I've ever seen. Things like the blood on the white part of the eyes, I don't know how the hell they managed to do it so well...

[@LucyintheSkyWDs]

​@@LautaroTessi besides the makeup, the actors actually lost a lot of weight to show how the survivors' bodies were affected over time. They truly did an amazing job, and it involved a lot of dedication and sacrifice

[@emmalou191]

they were sick. they were constantly covered in snow for hours and in a tough environment so they actually got the flu

[@patgervasio7044]

They probably were.

[@vincentdc211]

It's also 1990s make up vs today's makeup.

[@funchik93]

I absolutely agree about Numa's voice being a voice for those who didn't survive. The way they showed their names when they died... I watched Society of the Snow barely breathing. And yet it depicted the exact story that happened in real life from interviews of Nando that I've watched.

[@flexman70]

Saw "Alive" back in the day and I just watched "Society of the Snow" last night, and I gotta say "Society of the Snow" made me experience what they went through. I felt that I was there with them. I felt the starvation, the pain and the hopelessness. Their bodies wasting away (they made them lose weight foreal), their horrifically chapped lips, their yellowing teeth, and their burned skin were powerful optics that broke my heart. I cried when they started combing their hairs, brushing their teeth, washing their faces, and fixing themselves back when they heard they will be rescued soon. This movie version was 100x more powerful compared to "Alive".

[@Chelabellasweets]

Yes!!! Loved the scene of them getting ready to be rescued, so true to the Latino culture! Made us laugh and tear up. Always thinking of our Moms or Abuelas so have to try to look our best despite the circumstances.

[@aryblack]

I'm a spaniard but don't your moms/abuelas tell you to always have clean underwear in case you end up at the hospital? @@Chelabellasweets

[@mendesjosr4438]

That was the bit that made me cry. For me it signified their reclaiming of their dignity as human beings. No longer just survivors but their own selves again gathering their honour and pride in their appearance as they expected to be with other human beings soon, their rescuers, and beyond that, with the people they loved.

[@flexman70]

@@mendesjosr4438 "reclaiming of their dignity as human beings" is absolutely what they were feeling! What we were feeling watching those scenes!

[@BarnaliD]

That scene left a lump in throat. I was happy and sad at the same time.

[@fredvasquez4201]

Alive was good but Society of the Snow is on another level. What a movie. What a story! And the way they told the story was unique compare to the other movie. 5 stars

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah Society of The Snow is elite story telling and engrossing character developing!

[@scottmartin5093]

​@@BrainPilotsociety of the snow is just dumb. How many more movies from the same material source

[@iwoodbbill69]

@@scottmartin5093Gonna have to disagree with you there, champ. If you actually knew the source material you’d also know that La Sociedad de la Nieve is much closer to actual events and also had greater involvement by the actual survivors. Nice try, but nah.

[@scottmartin5093]

@@iwoodbbill69 hey chump don't care about what you think. "What miracle" would you say that after a near death experience

[@reygheecaravana-dh4oq]

society of snow is more nicer because more closer to the story

[@anareginacoronado1147]

In Alive the characters look too clean, Society of the Snow on the other hand had its characters run-down, it shows in their skin, weight, their facial hair growth, dirtiness, etc...

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah it felt so real when watching it

[@geronimocochise2033]

Bearing in mind though that a 30 year old film is going to have a hard time living up to a film made today, particularly in terms of realism.

[@anareginacoronado1147]

Oh, definitely agree with you, I wouldn't expect it to be as real, specially the plane crash, but at least, I think making their characters a little bit dirtier wasn't unachievable.@@geronimocochise2033

[@minyrar7107]

@@geronimocochise20331993 wouldn’t be the first time when actors get into a strict diet to lose weight. There were no special effects in society of the snow to show how weak and thin the actors were. The only thing that made it possible is that the movie was filmed in chronological order (from the plane crash to the rescue scene), so it could accurately show how their bodies were changing. And that was something that could also be achieved in 1993.

[@rosiii9]

​@@minyrar7107 you are right except the plane clash was filmed last, Bayona wanted to film the plane clash last because that's where we see the most "friendly" interactions and he wanted the actors to form a bond that would show in the scene without having to act, he wanted it to be their real friendship, not an act.

[@media5698]

As a Uruguayan, I have to say that hearing the story play out in Platense Spanish really adds another dimension to the movie, as well as the Latin vs American mannerisms. That said, both are for the most part factually based, well researched and well produced. The crash scenes are equally impactful. Great acting in both films. The newer film really needs to be called out for their almost forensic re-making of some of the iconic photos taken back in 1972 - truly impressive

[@jaimec2783]

No hay algo que delate que muchos sean Argentinos? O sea, me queda clarísimo que el español rioplatense es prácticamente el mismo entre BsAs y Montevideo pero solo es curiosidad si hay manera de diferenciarlos

[@franciscosanchez-op1dc]

@@jaimec2783 No realmente, principalmente porque son actores y la diferencia de acentoes es casi nula, asi que un argentino actuando de uruguayo es imposible de notar siempre que sean de las zonas del rio de la plata claro.

[@AnaMariaMeizys]

100% I am bilingual and there are just some expressions and feelings that are evoked in Spanish that have no translation. I was reminded of Neruda and other poets during some of the dialogue

[@sadiesimp2215]

i think the sound design was one of the greatest things done in society of the snow, really deserves any praise given and more

[@ConsciousMigration]

Both the book and Society of the Snow will continue to haunt me - not necessarily in a bad way, but in a way where every time I'm complaining about "my problems" or I'm sick or in pain, I think about how those people in that frozen wasteland, clinging to life would happily trade places with me in a heartbeat. It always puts things in perspective.

[@samanthamitchell4115]

Same.

[@aloha_0]

whats the book called?

[@floramclellan845]

​@@aloha_0there's many, and it depends on whether you want a overall perspective (Alive the book, The society of the snow the book) or from the survivors' individual experiences (Roberto Canessa, Nando Parrado, Carlitos Paez and several others have written books)

[@ConsciousMigration]

ALIVE: The True Story of the Andes Survivors@@aloha_0

[@aloha_0]

@@floramclellan845 I see, thats really interesting. I’ll look into the ones you’ve mentioned so far

[@Almitaqueopina]

As an Argentinian, It was hard for me to fully enjoy Alive, because the language of the characters was English instead of Rioplatense Spanish (or even just Spanish) but also because Americans have a very stereotypical way to express our culture. All the way it felt unreal, so it was hard to focus on the story. Overall, I enjoyed watching in a movie a story I always heard about when growing up, but now that Society of the Snow premiered, I think this movie is better in all aspects and I heard that the survivors really apreciate this movies because it made them feel sensations they have experimented when they were in The Andes, adn they think Society of the Snow represents better what happened.

[@calito44]

I am gonna honest, I hated Alive. Specially the scene of the cliff, like some kind of Indiana Jones Adventure film.. I felt it offensive to the memory of the real people that was there.

[@aryblack]

i rewatched Alive the other day and I used to love the movie but on my rewatch I did not like the acting and the fact that you can see that none of the actors look cold and their clothes keep clean during the movie... and how Nando recovers magically while you still can see the bruises slowly fading on Society

[@rosiii9]

THISS I'm also argentinian, and this movie not only represents the survivors better, it also represents the ones who didn't make it!! One survivor said in an interview a couple days ago: "Bayona showed me just 1 minute of the movie, long before it was released, and with just that minute, it felt like I could smell the Andes and the experience again". The actors did an amazing job because they got to interview the survivors and the families of those who didn't survive, I love this movie because they respected everyone involved unlike Alive that even changed names..

[@peredavi]

Why didn’t Argentine movie producers make the movie? Oh, never mind.

[@calito44]

@@peredavi Well we didnt need it an argentinian producer to do it correctly, just a director open to discover what really meant to the survivors to be in Los Andes like the spanish Bayona and not eager to transform it in another gringo adventure movie like Marshall did.

[@amandadobbs8609]

When Alive came out in '93, my sister worked at a movie theater. In the theater where Alive was playing and at just about every showing, they had nearly a constant stream of people coming out to complain that the theater was freezing and demanding that the thermostat be turned up. That theater was the same temperature as every other theater in the complex. It was all psychological. It might not have had the same effect on the small screen but believe me when I say it worked on the big screen.

[@BrainPilot]

That's crazy! Yeah maybe it is of it's time and packed the punch that it needed to more back then than it does now when compared to Society of The Snow

[@peaceandlove544]

That's why this time I took extra thick jacket, I knew I would feel as freezing because just looking at the trailer I felt awfully cold.

[@eli298]

I also loved both movies

[@kendrickdinger]

I watched it while curled up in a blanket!

[@spacemonkey340]

I watched The Day After Tomorrow in my living room and had the same experience. I was absolutely freezing. My husband simply remarked that it wasn’t any colder than it was when we started the film. It’s a crazy interesting phenomenon.

[@Acdc-mouh]

Dude the scene of Noma giving up and just saying the last words was heartbreaking and I am not going to lie, both me and my partner cried at that moment of sadness. Such true horror

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah that was such a heartbreaking powerful moment!

[@maxxxbeecher77]

I cried so many times during this movie. And when I read three survivors made cameos I cried harder 😆

[@serial92989]

I was in disbelief when he passed..

[@juanjose6719.]

Society of the Snow" is based on the book of the same name by Pablo Vierci. And Vierci, in addition to being a schoolmate and friend of the passengers of the plane, was invited to that flight, but finally gave up. That´s why the book has a greater emotional proximity to the survivors. When the survivors returned Vierci, who already had writing skills despite being so young, began to write a book. But since false and sinister rumors began to circulate( according to one of them the avalanche had never existed, but rather it was a lie to hide that the strongest had killed the weakest to obtain food) they decided that a professional writer should make known the official version of the events. And that´s how Piers Paul Read wrote the book " Alive", on which the movie of the same name was based. Pablo Vierci returned to his book thirty years later.

[@sunnystars9162]

Not to mention that Pablo’s book had the actual accounts of all 16 survivors- as in, he met with all of them and wrote their versions down.

[@gabriellejosef-marie2980]

Thanks .. I don’t know

[@trason101]

Saw it in a theater and was uncontrollably sobbing after the crash like none stop, one of the best films of 2023 imo

[@BrainPilot]

I bet! I wish I had seen it in the cinema! I bet that was an experience

[@federicobalboa9145]

While watching at the cinema, the tension in the crash scene was incredibly intense, prompting numerous people to tightly grip each other's hands in suspense, superb job Bayona.

[@cactaceous]

You sobbed uncontrollably none stop watching a movie? Life is gonna be real crazy for you man. Hope you get some help. Take care.

[@jennifermccrady9505]

I too was a blubbering mess from start to finish. I’m tearing up just thinking about it. That’s powerful

[@alejandromolinac]

I was gonna say…. I grew up in a country going up in flames during the Cold War and I ain’t sobbing over movies….

[@FefiBurgos]

Frank Marshall did a good job directing "Alive", which was based in the book by British author Piers Paul Read, who interviewed the 16 survivors and also did an investigation about the intents of rescue of the families in Uruguay and Chile, the press at the moment, a lot of information. It is an amazingly detailed book and relates the facts very well. The director tried to include some of this in the movie, had some high profile actors for the leads, and for the 90s technology, it was very good. J.A. Bayona based "Society of the Snow" in Pablo Vierci's book, an Uruguayan that has known the team of rugby players since before the accident. And as you very well noticed, his intention for the movie is to give a voice to the ones that did not make it, to show how the ones that came back did it by the effort of all. It is a harsh and beautiful movie at the same time. The realism is outstanding, the dialogs carefully selected to reflect all the turmoil, the suffering, the pain, physical and emotional and psychological. Bayona left aside details - like the helicopter rescue actually done in two days and not only one - and other stuff to use the time and screen to pay tribute to the ones that stayed, in a poignant and respectful way; that's why he cleverly decided to make Numa Turcatti the one telling the story, he used the real names of the deceased, he emphasized the sacrifice and efforts of some, for the greater good; he wanted to really show how all cared for each other and made a compact, functioning group; they watched over each other with love. The intense looks that said so much, the faces expressing worrying but silent thoughts, the deep pain of those that lost their closest friends or relatives there, all is portrayed amazingly by these young actors that are not internationally known and that also was on purpose, to don't distract the attention from the group as a whole. Bayona blew me away with these decisions and his take on this amazing story of survival and strength. Also, the technical aspect is outstanding; while the actors filmed the scenes in the fuselage near a ski resort in Spain, a team flew to the Andes to the exact place where the accident occurred, and filmed the background we see in the movie; they digitally added the real Andes into each frame, so we actually see the vast, cold, shocking view and distances that the group had in the mountains. That alone should receive an Oscar and all the technical awards possible. We got to see what they saw all those impossible days; we understand the desperation Roberto and Nando felt when they got to the top of that mountain and only saw more peaks and kilometers of snow and coldness and the sacrifice and unbelievable effort they should make to get out of that trap, for themselves, but for their friends, and for the families. It is faithful to the story, and told in a way that stays with you for a long, long time. The word "masterpiece" is thrown around a lot, but in this case, "Society of the Snow" truly deserves it.

[@GessAtti]

En realidad no fue tan así. Había algunos que no hacían nada. De hecho, uno de ellos dijo que "se dejaban morir" y los llamó "parásitos", no recuerdo exactamente quién, pero estoy bastante segura de que fue Carlitos Páez

[@actual-poet9951]

This. 🏆

[@cristianserret4190]

This.🏆

[@BbGun-lw5vi]

@@GessAttiYo lo que recuerdo es que Carlitos dijo que Arturo anhelaba unas piernas sanas para no sentirse parasitó.

[@GessAtti]

@@BbGun-lw5vi Se refiere a varios. Entre ellos y más que nada, a Bobby François (a quien señaló específicamente con nombre y todo jaja)

[@BeatlemaccaAR]

Society of the snow is a MARVELOUS movie. Not the "make them look good" Hollywood bulls...t.

[@mayrabuxareo3912]

As an Uruguayan I never liked Alive, the idiosyncrasy of characters where so far away from our culture that I never felt that movie like real, it actually looks goofy for times. I'm relly very thatnkfull that this movie come out, since this story is so important for the Uruguayan society.

[@LizzyGiggles]

One of the survivors said that Alive lacked the emotion of what they went through. Society of the show was completely about the emotion in my opinion and was extremely moving.

[@InvictusSolDeus]

I hate those who said that "society of the Snow" is just a Remake of "Alive"

[@Akadehmix]

Well, it basically is?

[@GessAtti]

​@@Akadehmix es un hecho real. Además de que Alive no fue la primera película sobre la tragedia.

[@InvictusSolDeus]

@@Akadehmix No, it is not. They tell the same story but in very different ways. In addition to the fact that in SOTS they respect the characters (Apart from changing the names of several of the survivors, Numa Turcatti is a character that does not appear in Alive!) Even the survivors consider Alive! a Disneyfication

[@Akadehmix]

@@InvictusSolDeusyeah, basically a remake lol

[@InvictusSolDeus]

​@@Akadehmix No, being based on the same story does not make a movie a remake. For it to be a remake, SOTS would have to be based on the previous movie, which is not the case. In fact, both films used different sources. Alive! is based on Piers Paul Read's 1974 book "Alive: The Story of the Andes Survivors." While The Snow Society is based on Pablo Vierci's 2008 "La Sociedad de la Nieve".

[@AlvaroArtagaveytia]

Lo escribo en castellano porque corresponde en este caso. No son comparables. "Alive" es un intento de recreación "extraño" para nosotros los uruguayos y nuestra cultura por varios motivos. "La sociedad de la nieve" está basada en el libro homónimo de Pablo Vierci y el guion lo respeta, amén de estar protagonizada por actores locales. Reconstruye inclusive elementos culturales que incluyen hasta pequeños detalles como programas de radio local, los viejos Mercedes Benz que se utilizaban en los ´70 como taxis y una larga lista que terminan construyendo una película creíble. Los propios sobrevivientes asesoraron a la producción de cerca y eso se nota.

[@rafacamaho32]

No solo la reconstruye sino que de hecho utilizan objetos reales del accidente y Carlos Paez sobreviviente también actúa en la película haciendo papel de su padre, te recomiendo veas la entrevista de Jordi Wild a Carlos Paez aquí en KZbin

[@xel1673]

7:00 The plane mechanic, Carlos Roque was actually depicted fairly accurately in the movie Alive. Even toned down a bit. He pretty much lost his grip on reality, became irrational, forgot things, and was in total denial. On more than one occasion he went into a screaming fit whenever someone touched him. He'd accuse them of being murders or something and demand identification/papers. Nobody could reason with him and he was difficult to deal with. So they ignored him, but still gave him food since they weren't going to let him starve. Among the things Alive the movie toned down was the fact that, for days after the crash, he also sobbed uncontrollably and did so often. He even lost control of his bodily functions, soiling his pants and doing nothing about it until the others had to clean him up to spare them all the smell. He was less crazy and frustrating as time went on, but still was emotional/despondent, associated very little with the other survivors, did little to help, and he kept to himself until he perished a few weeks later during the avalanche.

[@Zozette27]

In Bobby Francois’ chapter in the book Society of the Snow he said ‘The history of Carlos Roque has been so badly told and so stereotyped’ and Francois went on to describe Roque in a little more detail. Roque is also portrayed quite differently from the way he was described in ‘Alive’ in ‘To Play the Game’ by John Guiver which was released in 2022. Roque was at first very optimistic that they would be rescued and therefore was shattered when the search was called off. He confided in Canessa about the little 17th month old son that Roque longed to see again.

[@sophiaisabelle027]

Society of the Snow did it better. Alive is a more toned down version of it.

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah I totally agree with that!

[@DaveFisher-cq2dr]

me too @@BrainPilot

[@scottmartin5093]

​@@BrainPilotcan't wait till Donner party number 15 is remade

[@nestor1924]

The dude that directed the Revenant should do the Donner Party movie​@@scottmartin5093

[@msgproductions3515]

No survive 1976 is a toned down version.

[@jenjen2124]

In alive Ethan was depicted as the main character whereas in society of snow they all were Heros which was true and realised

[@Omega1867]

That’s what I loved about Society of the Snow. EVERYONE was the protagonist and the only antagonist was the Andes mountains.

[@ashmcdaniel5503]

Great review. Ive been obsessed with this event for decades. This movie is the definitive re-telling.

[@BrainPilot]

Glad you enjoyed the video. Yeah, it's so interesting isn't it

[@cristelm5166]

Also, one of the survivors said they dared to make Society of the snow more focused on details than Alive bc back then most of their parents were alive and they were afraid they'd touch their sensitivities.

[@Doneallicando]

True, Alive was made only 20 years after the crash. Society, in general, had a difficult time watching the horror unfold for the first time on the big screen. Whereas 50 years later, and 30 years after the movie Alive, it was time to tell the story with more freedom to be graphic and true to the circumstances.

[@mikerotch6068]

For society of the snow I literally felt like I was there with them. I felt a crazy amount of joy when they saw the local on a horse across the river. I said “FINALLY”

[@biancavaldivia9043]

Fun Fact! Society of the Snow was filmed at the original crash sight and at the same time the original crash happened to try and capture the exact conditions the passengers experienced. Not to mention the cold conditions the crew had to endure.

[@juanv5375]

Not fun but wrong fact... It was filmed in Sierra Nevada, Spain. Highest mountains of Spain after El Teide in Canary Islands. Bayona is Spanish and he likes to film in his homeland. Te crashed plane model was located at 2900 m so yes, they experienced real cold. Saludos!

[@aryblack]

I came to say this haha @@juanv5375

[@07foxmulder]

“fUn FaCt”….*proceeds to tell a lie.

[@susanagarcia3201]

@@juanv5375 Some was filmed in the Andes too.

[@juanv5375]

@@susanagarcia3201 well yes, the landscape and aerial shots. And the final walk down the valley when they finally found people. The main filming with all the actors was in Spain.

[@maddie4w]

I never really got over the casting of Ethan Hawke as Fernando Parrado. I know it was the early 90s and Hawke was a huge star at the time, but it just doesn’t translate for me. Society of the Snow treats the source material so much more sacredly, and that makes a world of difference.

[@cuentaccuentos]

let us not forget a crucial detail: a latinamerican event being told by latinamericans themselves will always be better. I have been waiting for a regional productional to pick this story up. there is no price hearing this story told in spanish

[@hilderenshof2476]

I agree. I dont think an American producer couldve done this. There are so many cultural aspects that brought depth into this movie that only latinamericans couldve made this. I also couldnt watch it with English voice over, i tried and it took me out of the movie and felt fake. I just had to switch to the original language.

[@BlitzOfTheReich]

This isn't always the case. People sometimes see their stories through a biased lens.

[@alejandromolinac]

Huh? This was already told by “Latinamericans” in the 70s….

[@cuentaccuentos]

@@alejandromolinac this video compares it to the us version. but regardless, the same point applies. the other movie from the 1970s was a mexican one. just by being an argentinian/uruguayan production already makes a big difference because of the accent.

[@danielros3333]

That mexican movie, was a shit. They didnt either understood the context or even the situation. Doesent count.@@alejandromolinac

[@nejimtroncoso7312]

Chronology , Alive film from 1993 is much better than the first mexican version of it made in 1976, four years after the Uruguayans rugby team tragedy. Society of the snow is a masterpiece.

[@amacrad]

It is evident that an English writer and a Uruguayan one were not going to focus on the same place. While the first describes more the facts and the adventure, the second develops more the experiences and interpersonal relationships. One of the survivors says that Piers Paul did not understand why they helped each other and sacrificed so much for their friends, while for Vierci it would be natural, they were even his friends. The same goes for the directors of the films and the actors, particularly the Uruguayans, but also the Argentines, knew the story and social background.

[@ilimari]

Some of the action sequences in Alive while they were doing the expeditions didn’t happen in real life, so Alive focusing in, as you said, “the adventure”, wasn’t even accurate…

[@rosiii9]

​@@ilimari yess Carlitos Paez (survivor) said he didn't like that Alive added scenes that didn't happen in real life to make it more dramatic, the survivors call Alive the "Disney version" of the events and I can't blame them, Alive even changed some names, just disrespectful

[@ilimari]

@@rosiii9 💯facts!

[@Julie-p6u6m]

Society of the snow blows Alive out of the water in every way possible. It is easily one of the most visceral and moving stories I have ever seen put to film. This movie stays with you after you watch it. I have been telling everyone I know that they need to see it! The acting is top notch especially considering that all of the actors were newcomers. You really feel they are going through everything that you see on screen. The scene where Numa finally gives in and eats the human flesh is absolutely heartbreaking 💔 I cannot say enough good things about this movie ❤️

[@robertanderson6776]

No it doesn't crap actors in society of the snow overrated

[@susanagarcia3201]

i agree with you.

[@JesuínoPescador]

​@@robertanderson6776weak bait

[@mfraye12]

It's also impactful to note that the survivors themselves have commended Society of the Snow for the respect it gives to them and those who never made it home. Both the survivors and the victims' families were heavily involved and consulted during the filmmaking process, and its their own preferred tellings of the events.

[@Zadiegrrl]

The films are based on two different books -- Alive is based on the first book about the incident, "Alive!" by Piers Paul Reed, while Society of the Snow is based on a book of the same name by Pablo Vierci. That is part of the reason for differences. The survivors did read comic books they found in the tail, which is mentioned in the book Alive! as well as accounts of other survivors.

[@beatsgalura]

Alive is 31 years old still good for the times!! Can't wait to watch Society of the Snow now!!

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah give it a watch! It's definitely worth it!

[@boutiquehotelglobe7521]

I completely agree with your review. I remember watching Alive, probably 5 years ago, and couldn't even finish watching it, not because it was hard to watch but mainly because it felt unrealistic in terms of the tone of the movie and how it was played out for the audiences. However, I just finished watching Society of the Show today and was blown away emotionally. It is very difficult to watch at times and like you described in your review, you literally feel the desperation, anguish, and overall emotion of the cast. This is indeed a fantastic movie that is not only affecting but also uplifting at the end.

[@BrainPilot]

Glad you agree!

[@DandMProduction]

Absolutely agree with the author of this video.. I saw many documentaries on this topic, and the moment they saw that ranger on a horse was exactly the way I imagined it when they described it in the doc... also, the fact that the movie was narrated by someone who didn't make it out alive was a very touching way of telling this story. Society of the Snow was a very good movie and, in my opinion, doesn't compare to the movie Alive..

[@BrainPilot]

Glad you agree!

[@Omega1867]

The survivors said that Alive is like the Disney version of their story while Eduardo Strauch said they “felt hopeful and had a sense of relieved and joy because their story would be told with everyone included” when they heard about Society of the Snow. Speaks for itself. I liked Alive back in the day but after watching Society of the Snow, it just can’t compare and is way too obvious that it’s Americans portraying Uruguayans. And badly at that. They even changed some of the names.

[@elenafari_]

what i love about society of the snow is how close it is to reality. not only the actors speak rioplatense spanish, which is the dialect the survivors actually speak plus it’s a super distinctive one (it would’ve been really obvious and odd to have another dialect), but the entire cast was close with the survivors and the families of those who didn’t make it, they even went to their houses and learned every aspect of their personality and experience on the mountains. you can even see some of the survivors in the actual film!! (Carlitos Páez acts as his own father, Roberto Canessa is at the hospital as a doctor, and Nando Parrado is at the airport). You can even see in an interview that the actual Roberto Canessa tells the actor that performs as him “you could be my son or my grandson, you remind me of my younger self”

[@SuperKiffi]

Definitely society of the snow is far far better than alive...it has covered every single moment and tried their best to describe the real incident in a very similar manner....society of snow is more appealing and close to truth...I watched it several times and it made me cry what actually happened with the people in 1972...this movie deserves Oscar award

[@Omega1867]

They are nominated for Best International Feature Film. And another one relating to best makeup too I believe. Hope they win!!!!

[@monsterhunter5403]

Many of the survivors refer to "Alive" as the Disney version of their story.

[@felipegonzalez1934]

This is true. To them it is Hollywood

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah i've seen that too!

[@jaycutler1407]

The characters in the “alive” version look way to clean and like they had no injuries

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah that's true!

[@yadinavarro9810]

8:23 this scene here represents the painting of the las supper , It was their first meal together . La última cena y fue la primera

[@ArizonaRed]

Society of the Snow was so amazing! I loved the way their situation was described all along the way and the moral at the end. Incredible that so many survived. These days, plane crashes mean total destruction.

[@diannebdee]

I think the tone of the acting was different in "Society of the Snow" was because there were Uruguayan and Argentinian actors playing the parts of their countrymen. The fact too these boys did what they needed to play these characters like losing the weight, leaving their wives and girlfriends to go to Spain to film, and also to talk with the survivors and having the full backing of the relatives of the dead. Also Bayona cared for this story. He cared for how it was told and how the living would feel about it. He also cared for the ones who cannot speak. Having Numa (Enzo Vogorincic) as the narrator and in effect Chorus of the film gave the voices back to the dead. For me having been with this story since 1976, "Society of the Snow" is leaps and bounds above what "Alive" couldn't do, and that is give us a film that rips your heart out at every beat. I'm not sure if Frank Marshall understood this was a true story, but his care was sadly lacking.

[@ChrisJensen-se9rj]

A fine detail that Society of the Snow does get correct in relation to the avalanche was Javier Methol realising that despite the popularity of his wife Lilliana, the boys actually strove to dig their friends out first before they made a move to help Lilliana, and Javier also realised that his post avalanche body position virtually on top of his own wife meant that in having to dig himself out unassisted, while the other boys dug out their friends, he was actually pushing and further compacting the snow around his wife, which more than likely sealed her into the snow even more and contributed in no small way to Lilliana running out of oxygen. Javier , as an outsider of the rugby group, was often the subject of ridicule due to his constant altitude sickness and generally " quiet" demeanor.

[@korn6722]

One thing that really bothered me about Alive is how they tried to pass the tragedy as something ¨american¨ , they never even mention the names of the victims that had died. Numa didn't even make an appearance or wasn't even mentioned at all !!!!! even going as far as to give them American names, it's obvious they didn't care for the real people involved. You can tell with society of the snow that a lot of love and care went into it, going as far as to coach the argentinian actors into perfecting the Uruguayan accent, the subtle mentions of the Uruguayan culture and how so many scenes were filmed in Uruguay. Even the survivors were included in some of the scenes as well!!!! like you can really tell how the director and the people involved cared so much about the story aghh..

[@codylee6894]

It's nice to see a movie with the right casting. Hope Netflix can continue this trend.

[@mensajesymagia2197]

I'm from the generation that got to see Alive when it came out, and I have always loved the movie and really made the story speak to me. However, you must understand that Alive was made in another very different time, aaaand is a Hollywood movie from that time, so they had to tell the story in a way that could be shocking but that anyone could see it. I was 13 when it came out and we watched it with smaller kids all the time without batting an eye. Society of the snow is a movie that strives to tell the story in a very realistic but also very artistic and metaphorical and beautiful way, and because of this, it also feels slower than Alive, which would be a problem generally with Hollywood movies. The tell the same story, but their styles are completely different so I would advise the people who haven't watch both films to do it and enjoy watching the same event in two different perspectives and two very different times and styles, without the need to judge which one is better. One will definitely connect more with you, but just open up to that very interesting experience!

[@AntoniosPapantoniou]

I agree completely. Alive has its own artistic and commercial value and shouldn't be so easily dismissed or overlooked. My own experience at the movie theatre back in 1993 was totally overwhelming. Lets not forget that Alive played a crucial role in developing the "myth" of the story through its religious aspects and also through its very vivid iconography. I believe that Society of The Snow has consiously or subconsciously followed some same patterns already composed in Marshall's Alive in the development of the narrative and the grandeur of the whole experience under the strong direction of Bayona. Even the music has a similar quality and feel, for those who have delved deeply into both soundtracks.

[@rosiii9]

one of the survivors joked saying: "we stayed in the andes for 72 days but you can't sit for 2 and a half hours to watch a movie without complaining" 😭

[@lisalifebeyond5053]

The combination of both is excellent. They each give a little here and there.. love em both

[@FatimaMarques0890]

The survivors didn't like "Alive" they noticed some very exaggerated situations and it felt to them that it depicted an "adventure" and not the actual tragedy/struggle/miracle they went through.

[@gozdea5548]

I watched both of the movie in 93 and yesterday. I was a child when I watched the 93 movie but still affected me a lot. I won't let my kids to watch 24 movie until they are 13y or more. When I compare two movies now, 93 one is too Hollywood style. 2024 movie I can feel the pain and respect of not only actors but producers, screenplay, directors, cinematography, scenario.....etc still thinking, was it a miracle or tragedy? Thei connection with each other.. It all revolves around the narrator Numa Turcatti, last person died on the crash... This is the details that Hollywood is lacking when they are telling the stories of non-American people. Also, as a Turkish person, Numa Turcatti's last name caught my attention, which means Turkish/from Turkey. I was so honored to have such a connection with one of the warriors of the plane crash, I also just learned that that is also a known last name in spanish/italian community.

[@GigianNelgin]

The accuracy in the cultural portrayal elevates this movie to another level. For me it was not just about the obvious improved shots (due to the better technology available). Many American takeon movies put the Hollywood style on stories, focusing on the big plot, big flashy events, happy ending, and leaving aside the humanity and cultural aspect of the characters. Everyone acts and thinks like an American. I can imagine why many survivors and families did not feel identified with the old movie (I would be mad). In Society of the snow you could feel that humanity. Every event, every decision, every day had a weight on the survivors. As a native Spanish speaker I could feel the respect with which the cultural aspect was taken. It is not just about language, it is about how characters interact with each other, what they long for, how they feel, how they think. I wouldn’t dare to narrate such a sensitive true story without making sure I portray it with as much accuracy, humanity and respect for the survivors and their families as I could possibly do. In the end is not up to us to decide which one makes more justice to the events, but up to the ones who lived them. Or even, should there be a movie at all? (Again, not up to us). Still, as a spectator, “Society of the snow” made me feel that humanity within the tragedy that I see lacking in many true event stories.

[@robertoperezcastro6130]

What strikes me is that for a Spanish producer and directors it could’ve been pretty easy to use a set of actors from Continental Spain. Not only does it cast a remarkable group of Uruguayan actors, but also Argentine actors who make a remarkable effort to capture the small differences between the accent from across the other side of the river plate.

[@BarnaliD]

I saw it by chance just yesterday, Society of the Snow and watched it till 3:00 AM. I could NOT turn it off. My goodness, it is one of the great movies to watch. The cinematics were awesome, I'm a lover of the Andes mountains. She has my heart. The way they chose not to show gruesome, gorey details and kept it respectful was very appreciated. The acting and storytelling were absolutely top-notch. This really truly is one of the greats. I LOVE this movie.

[@pencilpines]

When I watched 'Alive' as a teenager it had a huge impact on me. But maybe that was because of the incredible underlying story itself. I haven't seen it again yet. A lot has changed in terms of film language and the technical possibilities. More importantly, however, in terms of cultural representation and the abandonment of Western-centrism. In addition to that, the immersive storytelling and human drama between the characters is far better executed in Society of The Snow.

[@GAFB1122]

I just finished Society of the Snow and I thought it was much better than Alive. It was more authentic and I felt the desperation of the survivors. Their weight loss, grittyness, pain and suffering felt real. Whereas Alive, the actors were Hollywood stars and even when they were supposed to be at their worst, starving, dirty, sore, etc. they still looked like Hollywood stars. So my pick of the two is Society of the Snow!

[@mariorodriguezperez9580]

I thought that Alive was a good movie at the time of its release. But after watching Society of the Snow, Alive doesn’t seem that great. The characters in Alive were too clean and healthy. In Society, they were dirty and exhausted. Further, Society was filmed in the actual location with Spanish-speaking actors, giving a sense of realism

[@jotapeuy]

I agree with what you´ve said: Society of the Snow is far better than Alive. Alive is a 90´s movie and it feels that way: it is way more innocent and simplier. Also, they cared about the general story, not about respecting everything on it. They took a real story and filtered with some Hollywood bs, while Society of the Snow tries to be more true to the story and it is far more respectful to the people that lived this tragedy.

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah exactly!

[@lauramckenzie3801]

Yeah, and society is a 2000's movie and it feels that way. That's why it sucks compared to Alive. Movies in the 90s were made by professionals with talent. Movies today are made by any old idiot with a computer. The problem is now movies aren't filmed on actual FILM and that means people with no talent can make movies. Look it up. Filming on actual film was more difficult so you had to be really good at it.

[@jotapeuy]

@@lauramckenzie3801 sure sure... it's getting late, get into bed grandma

[@lauramckenzie3801]

Damn straight I'm older than you. That's why I'm better @@jotapeuy

[@thelemonoftroy]

I'd listened to the Last Podcast on the Left series about this, so I already knew all the details going in and I was still completely overcome with stress while watching this! That crash sequence was genuinely horrifying. I knew from the beginning that Numa didn't survive and I still cried a lot during his death. I think it was a great choice to have him lead the majority of the story, his voiceover during the rescue and return of the survivors kept me sobbing till the end. Such an incredible film and you can really see and feel the effort the filmakers went to to do this story justice. Even seeing it play out on screen, I stil can't fathom what those people went through. What a triumph of human spirit born from such unimaginable tragedy.

[@celesteaylen3701]

Society of the snow was another level! the true story

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah it was so powerful and moving to watch!

[@cherylrleigh1912]

Much like the literary work of Pablo Vierci in his 2009 novel bearing the same title, "Society of the Snow" (2023) emerges as a true masterpiece. As of now, I cannot draw a comparison to the film "Alive" (1993) as I have yet to see it.

[@evechavez1857]

Society of the Snow also had actors who were actually Uruguayan too (not everyone though)

[@Argelius1]

I think in general, cinematic story-telling (like that on television) has gotten better and more hyperrealistic that what we were watching in the 1990s.

[@sbanats]

Never seen alive and don’t have to society of snow is inescapably haunting riveting and breath taking especially during the avalanches

[@beachpinapple]

Alive was my favorite movie. and I've read few books and let me tell u... hands down SOCIETY OF THE SNOW!!

[@SannaGNR]

Alive is how I got to know the story back in the 90s, so it has a special place in my heart. Society of the Snow was amazing and seeing the actual survivors act in the movie was just incredible ❤️ The survivors were involved with Society, so I think that puts it ahead for me, even tho I love Alive. I hope it wins all the Oscars and the survivors get to attend & accept an award!

[@Arx_7]

There's also a Mexican version which came out in 1976, it's called Los Supervivientes de los Andes

[@carmenrmorales3635]

That’s the first movie. I saw it😂

[@Nitu_ram]

I loved the society of snow one oh my god what a movie..and their dedication was another level ❤

[@Nunya-g5b]

I loved society of the snow ❤ I've watched both. It was spiritual to me. It was beautiful and I cried quite a few times. Then realizing the narrator had passed away 😢

[@Omega1867]

It was like using Numa despite that, was giving a voice to those who did not survive. I loved it.

[@Cate5013]

Alive is one of my favorite movies ever. Having said that, I LOVED Society of the snow. It's an incredible story and the YOUNG men who survived are incredible people.

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah it's just incredible

[@AntoniosPapantoniou]

another huge fan of Alive here

[@itss_nattyj]

When I was much younger, in 8th grade, I read the book and watched the 1993 movie it inspired multiple times. It had one of my childhood crushes in it (Michael DeLorenzo) and Ethan Hawke, so I loved it. It truly had an impact on me. When I saw the trailer for Society of the Snow, I immediately thought it would be a remake and wouldn’t be as good. But I’m definitely going to check it out on Netflix this weekend.

[@curiousworld7912]

I know this was framed as a 'better/worse' version of this tragic story, but I think you did a nice job of 'sneaking in' what was a fair comparison of the two films, in terms of time and stye of film-making. 'Alive' was a respectfully done film in the 1990's. The survivors at the time, felt it was as honest a telling of their story, as the film makers wished. 'Society of the Snow' is much more immersive, the effects are definitely an improvement, and without easily recognizable actors, feels more 'real', in a sense. I think these films are simply a reflection of their times, and how any medium will evolve over that time - with hopefully even better results as historic events are revisited. Thanks for sharing this. :)

[@BrainPilot]

Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@TommyBBQBessinger]

I see I'm the minority here but I prefer "Alive". To me it had more feels and I connected more with the characters and their emotions. That's just me being honest.

[@curiousworld7912]

@@TommyBBQBessinger I get that. I really loved 'Alive' - loved the actors, the cinematography, the writing, etc.- it's an excellent film. I still have the DVD. And as the survivors were happy with both movies, it seems; they both sound like a 'win'. :)

[@ShiestyNagoo]

Watched Alive again for the first time in a good 20 years after watching Society and man… it’s a good movie but so over lit, the casting is terrible and feels like a tv movie. Society was gut wrenching and brutal

[@Georgina-lv9bt]

EXactly, it does feel like a movie of the week.

[@GonzzaLopez]

This movie deserve an Oscar. Why is not selected for best movie??

[@sfinthecity]

Oscar nominations will be announced January 23, 2024.

[@007Julie]

For sure will be nominated for Best Foreign movie, and probably win.

[@DoctorXander]

It's already on the shortlist for best international film

[@GonzzaLopez]

@@DoctorXander I know, but there are other international films nominated for best movie? Why this isn’t??

[@DoctorXander]

@GonzzaLopez cause they haven't revealed the nominations for best picture yet lmao

[@missydehart6920]

Alive has always been in my top 20 movies but…..Society of Snow was just wonderful. Absolutely wonderful.

[@hakunamatata8662]

Watched both, society of the snow wins hands down 🏆

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah I agree!

[@amykotches425]

I could not agree more with everything you say! I saw Alive in theaters and I wish I could have that experience with Society of the Snow.

[@victorserrano8294]

Well, Alive is based on the book from Piers Paul Read, which tells the story from all the records he could find, the interviews he did and, of course, his very own interpretation of the events. That’s why you have scenes like the bone fire at the plane’s tail. It’s described in Read’s book that it was like being in a 5 star hotel and that they slept very comfortably. It's a whole different perspective

[@giselleramirez4234]

I haven’t seen Alive yet, but after seeing society of the snow idk if I even should 😭Sociedad de la nieve is my new fav movie and idk if I can stand the version my fellow Americans dreamt up.

[@dutchieq3059]

Which movie is better is not even a question. Alive is a typical Hollywood take on a real story. Society of the Snow is based on what really happened. People who actually looked like they were there for 70 days. In Alive none of them looked like they had weight loss and they were running at the end like they still had enough energy to run a marathon. So not how things really went. And the way they filmed the journey to help was like they still had a few minutes left so lets skip through that really quick. After seeing The society of the snow I really thought ....wow Alive was really bad compared to this.

[@fhiNkme]

I saw the old "Alive" movie before and it was good but the latest version hit me differently. The narration, flashbacks and their talks on fighting hunger gave a whole new perspective. Staying optimistic matters. If you lose faith above, have faith in those around you. Still tearing up because of Numa Tucatti’s narration. They did a good job with this. What a plot twist. 😭

[@susanfalcon1964]

Alive was made 30 years ago so special effects aren’t going to be like it’s now. Alive had actors that I knew so it was easier to follow who was who. I felt I got to experience what each might have gone through. Plus it talked about reconnecting with god and how They had drive to conquer those mountains. Both were great and made me question what I would have done in their situation? I can appreciate both films. Kind of bothered me that SOtS didn’t have them lighting fires nor forced on the earlier injured that were crushed by the seats flying forward. Ie the lady that was pinned and later died the next day and the remorse that they had after yelling at her. Scenes were gorgeous in both

[@tazzy186]

I assumed that in SotS they weren't lighting fires because of limited resources. No trees to burn and any clothes/fabric they have are needed for warmth.

[@roller121984]

Realism or accuracy aside, the one thing i have to say for Alive was the ending felt more satisfying. The moment Nando and Canessa fly over the crash site in the helicopters was very emotional. I felt that society of the snow didnt have that same climactic experience for the audience, and the ending kind of just dragged on in comparison. Society of the Snow is the better movie imo, but Alive is 30 years old and still holds its own.

[@Deniseeee84]

Facts very well put !

[@anacarolmsc]

And the little red shoes were included in Alive, I wish they had included in SoTS

[@GessAtti]

me pasó lo mismo. A partir de la muerte de Numa, para mí la película decae

[@actual-poet9951]

​@@anacarolmsc what happens with the little red shoes?

[@kirtisingh1]

This stands true for me as well. I discovered this incident in 2024 and I'll never be the same again

[@vapormodel]

Also Society's Actors are all Theater actors...Alive were not... Theater actors are way more method and detailed in their acting even though they had never been filmed

[@christinehuston7714]

I thought Society of the Snow was so much more captivating and told a more accurate depiction of what the survivors of the plane crash went through. I almost wasn’t going to watch it because it was a foreign film and I didn’t want to have to read the movie. Then when I realized the voice over was in English, I thought that I would hate the fact that the words spoken didn’t match what their mouths were saying. I am SO GLAD that I didn’t let this keep me from watching this movie!!!!! I thought it was incredible and it was the first time that I actually even had an inclination of what they actually went through. Obviously, no movie could ever truly describe what these people went through, but I felt more watching this film. It is a true miracle to me at any of these men survived.

[@wrighty553]

Society of the Snow - hands down winner. The cinematography is incredible, the vast, beautiful emptiness, the aloneness and vulnerability of the survivors pitted against nature, the mountain and the weather. The weather being a natural phenomenon but an enormous challenge to survival. The way the cold and snow sucks all the colour out of the environment, even the colour red loses its brightness. I loved Numa’s narration. His acceptance that he would not make it out alive and how he was ready for what was coming next in terms of his own mortality and perhaps his body sustaining his (new) friends, gifting them the opportunity to return to “life’. Numa’s sadness at everything he would not experience, “I want to dance” and his friend says, “you never dance”…the fact that all they can do together in that moment is cry and grieve the loss. His friend was truly present with him in that painful moment; a lesson for us all. I am still thinking about this film several days later.

[@kirtisingh1]

I've watched this movie 5 times, I had zero idea about this incident. Now I'm obsessed!!!! I've read ALIVE and now I'm reading Miracle in the Andes by nando parrado. I can't get over how beautifully this movie was made! First time in my life I've found the movie at par with the books, SOTS is another level of powerful cinema, well done JA! ❤

[@juanv5375]

Bayona's movie (Netflix) is such a delicate work, but they missed (or deleted, cause we all know Netflix ideology) the religious feelings that are such a thing in this story.

[@chantaldespres2917]

i absolutely adored alive. I was 15 and I still think about it 30 years later. Maybe it's because I cried for hours when I learned it was based on a true story.. I havent seen societe of snow, I cannot compare the two.

[@Lulucastic]

Alive is for those who call it "The tragedy of The Andes", The Society of the Snow is for those who sees it as "The Miracle of The Andes". There is a huge difference in each perspective, even one of the survivors said on an interview (Carlitos Paez) that in Alive they deleted scenes because "people wouldn't believe that it happened", heartbreaking.

[@nadiadahbani7804]

it’s completely the opposite.. in Alive it was really made to show how it was a miracle.. how they found God in those mountains Though in netflix version, it was just like they wanted to exclude God and miracles off the line... Even at the end one of the mothers told her son it’s a miracle but he answered ”what miracle?!?" As he was denying the fact that it was a miracle Alive showed the miracle and what really made them survive and gave them hope and strength The other one was about a tragedy... showing only the dark side... i felt like they were trying to convince us that God has nothing to do with their survival instincts

[@mmg8830]

​@@nadiadahbani7804it's like we saw two different movies

[@Lulucastic]

@@nadiadahbani7804 in my opinion The Society Of The Snow builds a more solid foundation to empathize with the characters, and it was closer to the real thing. If you can take a look at the interviews with the director you will see how each one of the survivors has its own version of the story. Am not saying Alive is a bad movie, just two different points of view and definitely didn't have the heart that The Society of The Snow has. God bless!

[@alejandromolinac]

Been binge watching past documentaries leading up to this flick…. Just made me realize that Carlitos changes stories from decade to decade…. 25 years ago he said his family was right…. Fast forward now they were poor In the 70s….

[@alejandromolinac]

Don’t know…. Liliana is was more sympathetic in Alive…. Same with the boys on the stretchers and the lady with the broken legs…. Here she just gets a passing comment and Liliana blends with the boys…

[@saiyluvs]

in SOS, i loved how they looked run down, cracked lips, dry skin, black eyes,yellow teeth, spots on there eyes and white area , ragged clothes, to show they that they was deteriorating, this movie gave us a glimpse of what horrors the survivors had to endure , but in the other movie they looked soo clean. i just feel SOS captured that realism. i cried watching this as they got rescued lol.

[@Jeredos]

I'm from Uruguay and think both movies are good, but I prefer Alive. It is more narrative, the narrative thread is more clear and classic and has more character development. You can clearly tell who is who and it gives more development to characters like the captain or the two boys on the stretchers, even though they don't use their real names. And Liliana's total absence in Society of the Snow is felt too. In Alive her character had an arc and was really hard when she died.

[@BlitzOfTheReich]

I haven't seen Alive and loved Society of the Snow, but this is one thing I felt. I was so damn confused regarding who was who until the end. I really connected with Nando, Numa, Marcelo, and Roberto. I hadn't even realized Gaston had died until later. That's how confused I was, and I speak Spanish.

[@alejandromolinac]

Man! I had the exact same Feeling…. Specially when the crash happened…. Also the lady totally blended with the other guys…. Doesn’t help that Ileana Douglas is very unique looking so she stands out….

[@alejandromolinac]

Don’t forget the screaming lady trapped with the broken legs…. She’s almost omitted in the new movie ….

[@Jeredos]

Society is extremely politically correct. So the lady screaming and carlitos screaming at her to shut up was too much for this movie.

[@andreamun8251]

Loved Alive back in 1993 - it was monumental to a 15 year old and I'll never be able to get it out of my mind. Then, a couple years back I read the book and realized the reality was even more brutal than the film! I feel Society of the Snow was truly the haunting remake that needed to be done in Spanish language. Bravo! How in the world is this not up for Best Foreign Film???? Am I missing something???

[@noelv1976]

Alive is good in its own merit. An action adventure movie based on real events. Society of the Snow felt like a real life documentary, but in a great way.

[@sarahsyuhada8637]

From the power of makeup and green screen. I can simply read the characters easily nowadays. How well they are acting for the scenes sometimes you can see thats it's real sometimes its not but this movie! This movie really had me anxious to my gut, they were so real i feel like vomitting. I could not tell if theyre just acting or theyre actually going through it. Its been awhile I watch such great realistic acting especially when I learned they lose weight, shoot in the mountain, got sick and hunger for this movie. Society of the snow is incredible to core !

[@kylaren6337]

I think Alive was well done. It was the first movie on this tragedy. Alive showed what happened when they got home. It also really focused on the characters personalities which I enjoyed. You knew who Nando, Canessa, Carlito , etc, based on their personalities. Society of the Snow was visually appealing. You saw their urine turn black, you saw them lose weight, how hard it was to integrate back into society (ie their shower scene). I couldn’t tell much about the actual characters though. They literally could’ve all been one character.

[@carmenrmorales3635]

No first movie came out in 1976. I saw it.

[@HeatherHolt]

@@carmenrmorales3635maybe they meant first big movie, Hollywood movie.

[@rosiii9]

because that wasn't the point? the event wasn't about their individual characters, it was about the teamwork that saved them, that's why Society of the Snow is better than Alive

[@GessAtti]

Alive se centró... Se centró MAL en los personajes. Te gusta que inventen hechos y personalidades? Está bien para una película cualquiera, pero si vas a comparar dos basadas en una historia real, entonces no me hables de "pude distinguir personalidades" porque simplemente viste personajes inventados. SoTS fue más respetuosa incluso en eso.

[@msgproductions3515]

No the first movie was called Survive which came out in 1976.

[@linuxdeveloperuy]

All the "action movie scenes" in Alive did not happen in real life. For instance, some characters about to fall through a crack in the snow, or sliding with hand made sleighs through the snow with "happy music".