Socket 3647 Xeon are soldered? Delid Die Mate WS 3647 to reveal the Truth

[@critical_unknown]

Nice nails there Roman.

[@minecraftermad]

you should see my shit infested ones

[@TheBackyardChemist]

@@minecraftermadWTF, just clean them dude

[@Qyngali]

Video looks sharp, and "your" nails look spectacular. xD

[@lucasrem]

Qyngali Why you noobs cry weirdo shit here, language issues? not on 4k? WS 3647 need? creative guy, cloud guy?

[@MrAgentTweak]

Watch your videos @ 1080p and this one is very sharp .. and looks amazing buddy . Have not tried 4K yet but so far so good mate .

[@asm_nop]

8:39 Well, I guess if Intel wanted to sell embedded-servers with fine-BGA mounted CPUs, that's how they would avoid using a socket.

[@slicey2703]

You have lovely painted nails Der8auer

[@JasonOfTGA]

I just love how the hair is also overclocked using LN2.

[@der8auer]

🦊💅

[@faresdellys3233]

This is a great video and thanks for the high quality content 👍👌

[@ГеоргийТрубецкой-й8й]

Why did you used the nail polish? So that the liquid metal does not short the resistors? Or is it the temperature?

[@mycosys]

The softened background from the wider aperture is lovely, but honestly i didnt notice until you mentioned it. Theres a little pincushioning but for how wide it is its really very good. Can i ask what it is? Reminds me a bit of my Tamron f2.8 17-50

[@Luscious3174]

I'm wondering if this would have a better effect with the 150W and higher TDP chips considering the airflow (and noise) needed to keep them cool in a 1U chassis. This would definitely be something I would do with a rack mounted 4U workstation where the motherboard is horizontal and can take a large air cooler or water block.

[@mark5594]

What lens is it? What aperture were you shooting at? Looks good. I love Lumix mirrorless cameras.

[@OfficialMageHD]

You asking about the image quality made me pay a bit more attention than I usually do, and I just noticed you kinda got a Jimmy Neutron look going on lol

[@jackbauer2698]

Roman is that ROG in the back a poster or a cloth banner? And where can I get one pls :)

[@Melwasul94]

Did you just do the delid in different days? Or did you remove your nail polish after doing it? :t

[@der8auer]

This step requires additional love so Marry had to take over :D

[@Melwasul94]

@@der8auer ow 😍 Thanks for the good work :)

[@SoranoGuardias]

Two things: 1) What function do those rfid chips serve? 2)I wonder if it is possible to reball the actual CPU wafer and apply it to a LGA 2066 PCB?

[@jakegarrett8109]

Label and identify, you can keep each one “tagged” and tracked for warranty/RMA purposes, and let’s you know if you have a bad batch. Also a lot of contracts require return of the original hardware, and this way you can check after someone pulls thousands of these from your racks of servers. From a non-commercial use, these would be so much better than the sticky notes for component binning all of my parts have! It’s really annoying when you’ve binned even a simple 4x cards for crossfire, and you’ve organized the slot priority’s with fastest cards in top slots, and then have it all apart for cleaning waterblocks only to realize at some point some of the sticky notes fell off with your clockspeed and voltage tuning labels... Now I use painters tape! Too many identical cards to keep track of, even when it’s just a couple 4x of a series for benching... I keep most of the data in spreadsheets (like voltage/speed/power/temp/benchmark score), and it would be super nice to just scan and “Boop, here’s your card!” with all the data. Now imagine if I had thousands of processors instead of my personal benching stack... Yeah, you’d want those badboys tagged!

[@3800S1]

I would like to see delidding of vintage CPUs, things like K6 II etc... CPU that has lids obviously. I would be interesting just for seeing the die. I have removed the bottom lids off 486s before to see the die face up seeing the transistor side and the gold bond wires at the edges.

[@maicondouglas8047]

And sand this to see in microscope, may be easier to see the transistors than the i7s

[@lucasrem]

3800Tech delidding channel, museum parts, who needs that????????? how many hits you get, some KZbin Job you do here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@5cottzdezine895]

@DB - I sincerely hope that was marry applying that liquid metal - You don't look the type for bright red nail polish ;-) Good Vid as usual - keep up the good work.

[@samfedorka5629]

the lens is sharp, but you may want to stop down to a narrower aperture. I used to really enjoy looking at all the cool stuff in your background which is now super blurry. Even the box in the forewground is a bit fuzzy. Stop down your aperture and get a longer depth of field and I think it'll be perfect. The wider aperture is good for your up close shots of the cooler, applying nail polish, etc since you want to de-emphasize the background there, and I think it looks good when you're attaching the cooler to the MB. But when you're just standing there all the flavor you have in the background is not only useless it's actively annoying. For what it's worth I have this complaint when any youtuber I like gets a new camera.

[@finalwharf]

Is this the same bad thermal paste Intel usually uses or is it a better one? It would be great if you delid a Xeon W-2200 series and see if these are better than the W-2100s. Keep up the great work 🤟🏻

[@depth386]

No pre heating before the delid?

[@lucasrem]

depth386 Why you need delid CPU, running what?????

[@ontronkien9047]

whats the power consumption of that thing?

[@KrowmaxZ]

Damn through out the video I did look at the depth of field and other things, I then realized it was the new lens I guess... looks super good man. Great channel, thanks for this .

[@scottwilson419]

The Madd Scientist was back at it again....Video looked great at 1440p. I know Jayz2Cents did a video on the performance difference with the Zombieload patches on a high end chip, can you test again but on the Xeons, just because they dont have the power and clock speeds that the i9 chips have. Would be nice to know how Zombieload may be impacting the server and enterprise space. Great job again Roman, every video you put up is a learning experience.

[@MianHumas]

can u share the link of screw driver

[@shadowr2d2]

This was a great video. I like how both of you guys. Had a part in making of the video. This is why I love this channel. Thank you very much.

[@osgrov]

Quality is great! Watching the 1080p stream on my laptop and it's very crisp, great colours. :) I also wish you wouldn't hide Marry behind the camera. She needs to be visible more!

[@kovacspis]

go search for her on pronhub

[@KplusU]

We want the red-headed girl more!!!

[@FodrMichalych]

true

[@FTLN]

Great Video... Glad to see you are showing CPU temps again unlike your last one which Gigabyte obviously paid you to make. Keep up the good work :)

[@445588997]

The image quality is great. but my ocd is triggered whenever the tip of your hair leaves the frame during the minute or so... :p

[@MervTeo]

Do you have the shirt you're wearing for sale Roman?

[@der8auer]

yes :) www.caseking.de/search?sSearch=der8auer+merch

[@axi6ne8us]

Can liquid metal be used on a Threadripper 2950X?

[@ColtaineCrows]

Yes, but you probably won't be getting any improvement since they're soldered. Also liquid metal isn't much better than regular TIM between the IHS and cooler either, it's like sub 2 degrees C iirc.

[@axi6ne8us]

@@ColtaineCrows I appreciate the response. What would you recommend for the best air cooler for this cpu in an X399M taichi board?

[@dillerdallerglor]

I guess that the Delid-Die-Mate X could have been a lot simpler, since this much bigger chip got delidded just fine with no fancy mechanism.

[@bbpetrov]

next time when you are expecting cpu to be soldered, heat it with heat gun before delid, otherwise you will have one pretty much dead cpu! Cheers from Hamburg!

[@ontronkien9047]

i like the new montage of the cpu into the heatsink, finally intel got a intelligent idea about that, hope they do more intelligent ideas

[@Delistd]

The new lens looks sharp. What lens is it? Sigma?

[@Dan____]

It's nice to see you are wearing the nail polish now too, it's 2019, if you want to have Pink/Red fingernails you go for it!!! ;)

[@getyerspn]

Great video and video quality looks great at least at 1080p

[@lucasrem]

getyerspn 1080p, 2005 guy? why you cry that?

[@brunomoraldelgado5202]

I don't see any improvement in the camera department xD I think it's always a good idea to delid a CPU if it is not soldered. Especially if it reaches very high temps. Nice video!

[@pokopingos1312]

Hey im new here and I was wondering, what is that keyboard?

[@der8auer]

Corsair K70

[@pokopingos1312]

@@der8auer oh really? I didnt know it looks like that from behind... anyways thank you for replying :)

[@dashtesla]

I'm watching everything you post in 4k and the camera looks great feel like the only way to get better is red 8k and upload in 8k.

[@rogerj412]

Roman how did you change your nails so quickly?

[@r3pents7]

8 core idles 40c @ 5.1Ghz thanks to der8auer! :)

[@r3pents7]

​@@freak777power very nice! my 40 c is high for idle but it is mostly because inside a/c'ed ambiant here in Florida is 78F (25-26C). the equator is serious xd

[@LCTRgames]

You 'pop' more from the background now. Narrow dof so I'm guessing you bought some expensive fast lens? :)

[@stefanvoda489]

What keyboard is that?

[@adz929]

My dream build has always centred around dual Xeon CPU's, just wish I could afford one :-P

[@bk-cl2np]

Huanan Dual x79 is a very affordable dual socket Xeon motherboard if you are not already aware of it. It is not actually x79 but a C600 series chipset. You can run two E5-2600 Series chips (V0 or V2) which can be had on Ebay for cheap . The single thread performance of these E5 26XX CPU's are close to i5 sandy/ ivy bridge, not spectacular by today's standards, but my X79 single socket motherboard with an E5-2690 does pretty good in newer games that can take advantage of the cores. It's basically an 8C 16T i5 2500. Having two of these I think would make for an interesting setup if you don't mind the drawbacks of older hardware and just want to have dual CPU's for the hell of it. It might even make a decent budget editing rig

[@lucasrem]

adz929 afford, financial situation talk here, what do you do, KZbin job you do? why this weird??? NEED A REAL JOB??? mum i need money job? wash the cars?? You nedry freaks do have weirdo dreams, why you need dual cheap Xeons, running what? @UCiOIPF147ya87bZK5WNjZkAtoo, why so nedry???? what do you need here, why the crying? X79? museum weirdo builds????

[@MrKZdemos]

video quality is great! you look so much prettier

[@C_C-]

Das video ist super clean yah.

[@pr0xZen]

What's the deal with these anyways? If they perform closer to a 4C/8T i7 than an R7 2700, the platform is extremely expensive... what is a typical usecase that justifies the expensive, powerhouse platform but such a relatively anemic CPU?

[@1jantera]

There is alot more to Server CPUs than just met the eye with performace. They need to be alot more reliable than Consumer Part and also there are alot more Support for Features like Virtualisation. While Ryzen supports alot of Workstation features and even some Features specific for Servers. They are still not meant for continues high load and heavly virtualised Application like Xeons are. And actually the performance of the CPU shows the Core scaling really well because 8c/16t =~ 4c/8t at 2x the clock

[@pr0xZen]

@@1jantera So what I mostly got from that, in as far as to give a pointer towards "what is their reason to exist" on such expensive platforms - it mostly comes down to some binning, and artificial limitations of feature sets and ECC memory compatability..(?) - I get why to bin, why to artificially limit features etc - You want exclusive, or high-end special features primarily used by people or companies using the hardware for revenue-generating work or research, warrantied reliability etc - to be beyond a pretty high pay wall to make bank and recover RnD expenditures. Yet in a perfect manufacturing world, you'd sell the exaac same piece to different markets at different prices. To as great extent as possible, you also want to to keep the number of actual silicon die variants you produce as low as possible (within production cost reasonable limits for physical size) - so as to rather produce a smaller set of dies and optimize their yields quickly, and gain optimum cost efficiency and economy of scale balance. Then you go to binning, selective certifications, and finally gimp the consumer and/or HEDT silicon by microcode or nuking physical sections. I'm just a bit baffled by the enormous cost disparity, given the relatively low brute performance together with the vast cost of the platform.

[@1jantera]

@@pr0xZen actually the price delta inbetween isnt as much as you expect the xeon silver 4110 right now cost about the same as the 9900k so both are 8c/16t. So in terms of pure Performance the is just the clock difference But from the xeon you get all the server Features (there is alot more to it than just ecc support, i didnt know much about that until very recently as well because i started working in this Business branch) And often what is more important than just the Features is also the Support (for examle guarantied next workday tecnician service,wich is often offered by the server manufactures ex Fujitsu) for these Servers. So the Prize increase is totally justified for businesses that rely on these servers. Edit. And sorry when i wrote my first comment i misread and though you were really toxic about the prizes of the xeons Edit2. I just looked it up the amd equivalent to this cpu would be the epyc 7251 wich is around the same prize point

[@pr0xZen]

jantera jantera I know there's a lot of features - as in genuinely useful features for various workstation, server, datacenter workloads and virtualizations etc. And there's completely different support structures and hierarcies, although a lot of that is often not readily available to a private individual buying a part. I'm not quite sure if its a market thing or what - but the reason i pointed out that immense cost discrepancy vs small disparitys in brute performance, is I was honestly (and for context kinda incorrectly) looking at 8C/16T Xeon _gold_ CPUs. And a 8C/16T one of roughly similar brute performance of a consumer grade 2700X, is around £7.000 around these parts. At the end of the day you're paying for so vastly much more than the silicon, substrate and IHS. It just baffles me some times, that there often isn't all that much more brute performance also included, for those price differences that can start to close in on a multipler of 50x in price some times. But no - I'm not knocking on the cost, although there's some times very little shame in profit margins there. There's incredibly much behind thr numbers. It just odd to think about some times, that what you're often getting *least* of for your money buying these parts, is "silicon" / hardware.

[@simoSLJ89]

Great video quality and great OST

[@punkistiinuemorti]

The objects in the background are a lot more blurry in this video than in the older ones, but good quality overall.

[@rgreerjr]

to me that is a sing of a good camera, it is focusing on the subject matter, not everything

[@AdamQueen]

Will RGB nail polish be a thing for OCers?

[@tehsimo]

Also very sharp image quality on the video

[@guyfawkes8873]

I really can't see anyone in a server environment using liquid metal. Like ever. Just not worth the risk at all.

[@mannyc19]

Looks great!

[@427cidpower]

Roman needs to become a hand model, beautiful 😍

[@Aiyoros]

9:45 those are German precision nails!

[@mr_jarble]

Image looks good :)

[@SerYanOto]

Solder it's said without L (soder) in UK, USA, Australia,...

[@SolventDonkey]

Vid quality great

[@slmjunior1]

Do it to lga 2011 too, like xeon 2650 v2 for example!

[@lucasrem]

slmjunior1 e2699 v4, 2011-3, 14 nm you need. 5Ghz on all 48 HT cores What you run on them, creative guy? Here just nerdy benchmarking noobs, not understanding any need..... Forget old DDR 3 shit here!

[@Alan_Skywalker]

Even Xeon 8175M with 240W and 24 cores max at 60+ °C so it's pointless to solder them. The silicon in the chip is way better than desktop chips.

[@theR6969]

The X in Xeon is pronounced as Z only .. So it's "Zeon" not "Xzeon". ;)

[@ColtaineCrows]

Then why did they spell it with an X and not a Z?

[@theR6969]

@@ColtaineCrows , ask the people who created the English language and how it's supposed to be pronounced. X at the beginning of the word followed by e or y is pronounced Z. I didn't make the rules.

[@dragonbreak3360]

Yes this processor is surely called kseon.

[@halistinejenkins5289]

i sit and stare at my Noctua coolers as well...

[@piotrkozowski4230]

9:40 red again .... rly m8... clear looks much better

[@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt]

I love your videos even though I'm too scared to delid my CPUs! Have you ever looked into those direct die water blocks? They seem like a great idea.

[@jakegarrett8109]

He sells a direct die cooling kit, so I’m sure he has seen those since he was developing things for that market segment.

[@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt]

@@jakegarrett8109 Yeah his product looks really good but only i9.

[@gio9789]

I'd love to say that the quality is good but my screen is cracked

[@aodtoxic]

Nice manicure, man!

[@TechDunk]

Nice video!

[@ph7947]

Noctua = best fans / air cooling.

[@N0N0111]

@der8auer I think this new camera lens has less Chromatic aberration. GN has that ugly lens, that has massive Chromatic aberration ugliness!

[@ColtaineCrows]

What is chromatic aberration? I don't notice anything in GN's videos, or this one.

[@N0N0111]

@@ColtaineCrows Just google it.

[@tehsimo]

Cinebench R20 has the most boring image to look at. It's 1 step above a black screen. Should do some nutty robots or something next time

[@deltacx1059]

Time to hack the BIOS

[@matty1234a1]

Pretty sure thats just a hedt die stuck on a bigger socket, kinda stupid of intel tbh

[@CharlesM236]

Flags on the nail polish....))))

[@emrexis]

Is that Mary? 😂

[@der8auer]

Sure :)

[@MLGJuggernautgaming]

It’s “zeon”

[@dennisliaf3203]

Warum wird Linus mehr geschaut wie du❓

[@hjembrentkent6181]

Xion?

[@hjembrentkent6181]

Zon.

[@CapeCodCNC]

too artsy narrow focus...

[@metallurgico]

Skylake X lol...

[@ffff-xd7di]

Maybe nope

[@josejeanseas]

Dental paste intel

[@boj83]

Pls its "ceeon' not xxxxeoon lol

[@nilsquasdorff7375]

Ist das beabsichtigt das du Werbevideo geschrieben hast und nicht eher advertising oder so was in der Art? XD

[@der8auer]

KZbin ist sich selbst nicht ganz sicher wie das in meinem Fall ist da ich in Deutschland bin aber auch englische Videos produziere. Ich muss so bald ich nur eine Marke ausspreche das einblenden im Deutschen, aber wie das bei einem EN Video ist, ist nicht ganz klar :D Um mich selbst abzusichern bleibt das erst mal so.

[@billygray8863]

i know it's not your fault but the way you say xeon bugs me

[@4fiHysteria]

:o

[@4fiHysteria]

Oh hey this was first :D

[@marcoachaves822]

Toohpaste??? Intel you are a shame

[@graffiti73]

Awesome work. Always an enjoyment to watch your content! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐