Huananzhi X11D-16D - dual socket LGA 3647 motherboard that I wanted to like

[@CraftComputing]

Oh shoot, here we go again!

[@Miyconst]

I just hope they sent me a defective unit because if all motherboards are like that it's a total disaster.

[@SiliconDragon]

@@Miyconst Приветствую. Спасибо за видео. Хотел спросить тебя, раз уж ты следишь за Китайчатиной. Подскажи пожалуйста, подвальщики еще не выпустили односокетную плату на 3647?

[@Spitlebug]

Despite your being "dead tired and bad lighting" you're still looking good.

[@ReinaldoGonzalezreix2x]

Miyconst, you are the reason i use double cpu Huananzhi motherboards on my two workstations, you are doing a great job, sadly Huananzhi is not.. here they drop the ball, they had a good opportunity with people with strange use cases like me.

[@Miyconst]

Yeah, I also had hopes for the motherboard and it's rather disappointing to see how ignorant they become to be.

[@JWSC2024]

Been waiting patiently for your review. I dodged a bullet on this one! Thanks

[@Miyconst]

It is certainly too early to buy these motherboards but hopefully they will improve in the future.

[@100_Nossaum]

oh gosh! sorry to hear it man, and to Huananzhi readers, I was really into trying that and will not. thank you, Kostiantyn.

[@Miyconst]

If you want to try LGA 3647, browse eBay regularly, good deals show up every now and then but getting sold quickly.

[@mamdouh-Tawadros]

Thank you, for being honest about the price. Hunanzhi is now a low grade motherboard. Always problematic, no support from the seller. I find Machinist to have better quality control and better prices. May be they will make 3648 mobos.

[@Miyconst]

Unfortunately I have got the same experience, lately. Machinist is far from perfect but better than Huananzhi.

[@enriconapolitano4321]

Yesterday the first time I notice on aliexpress this motherboard, even if Huananzhi never disappointed me with X99 mobos, this time I do not understand what they did with you regarding this LGA3647 mobo, anyway I recently got an HPE Proliant ML350 Gen10 server which also have two LGA3647 sockets, still testing the system and so far minus the Displayport at the back not showing output video I am currently using the VGA port connector for video, tomorrow installing testing two processors 6144 and hopefully a Nvidia RTX 3060, thank you for this video

[@icmann4296]

There are used Supermicro 3647 boards on eBay, with two 5118s and passive coolers attached, for ~$340 US dollars. Why spend the same for a poorly designed and poorly constructed, untested board, and only the board? I wanted to like it too.

[@Miyconst]

There is absolutely no reason to buy this X11, if you really need LGA 3647 - there are far better alternatives.

[@comrade171]

Honest review as always so nice one miconst but as someone who owns a x11dpi-nt this is a seriously cheap knockoff (even if it worked) definitely better off buying a secondhand x11

[@Vatharian]

@@comrade171 Can I ask you what's the power draw at idle? I am rocking dual socket LGA771 and 1366, and power bill is slowly killing me... I am looking to finally upgrade, but I need lots of PCIe, so I am looking for options.

[@comrade171]

@Vatharian hi i dont have the value at the wall socket but powerstat (cpus and ram) states 90w idle and 300 full load (5virtual machines) my cpus are 125w 5218 es and 192gb ddr4-2666

[@Vatharian]

@@comrade171 That's enough for me! Thank you so much! My systems routinely idle at 200 W+ just on mobo, with max power to match. I can't afford 4677 or Epyc, so 3647 it is. Again, many thanks!

[@williamcroson9102]

Great content as always. Definitely a board I'll be skipping. Think I'll be jumping from LGA2011-3 to SP3 for my server when the day comes.

[@alexeizverev4126]

Friend! Thank you! Great test review! High quality five stars! ^_^

[@MarioMazzotti]

I've been waiting for this

[@agentkruger]

11:18 check the LGA pins of the motherboard, sometimes they are damaged which leads to loss of RAM module or PCIE lines

[@Miyconst]

Thanks for the suggestion but it's unfortunately not the case. Damaged pins could disable one PCI slot, not all of them.

[@nicopelle72]

"...I think after this video, they will not want to hear anything from me or see any of my videos anymore.." 🤣🤣YOU'RE THE MAN! Miyconst NUMBER ONE!! 🔝 Excellent review by the way, as always

[@Miyconst]

Thanks for the support!

[@craigharris9591]

Thank you for your detailed video review and for saving me from buying this crap motherboard. I currently have a Huananzhi X99 F8D Plus dual socket motherboard running x2 e5 2699 v4's and it works amazing. Unfortunately Huananzhi departed from making good products after last gen boards. I will wait till they get things together and try again. Maybe they will do a cool dual socket Epyc sp3 board in the future? Thanks again...

[@williamcroson9102]

Did you not find it annoying though that most of the screw holes on the F8D Plus do not line up with a typical EATX motherboard tray? 😂 I bought one recently, and while I am using it, I could only get three screws in. Had to use some rubber bungs for most of them and a cable tie to help prevent movement.

[@craigharris9591]

@ you need a case that supports E-atx server mounting. Otherwise you get alignment issues as you’re trying to fit a server board into a E-atx desktop mounting.

[@williamcroson9102]

@@craigharris9591 Yeah, I never realised there was a difference between eatx desktop and eatx server mounting. I thought eatx was eatx 🙃

[@Miyconst]

I also hope they will fix their shit and I will be able to recommend their boards again.

[@denisruban1558]

I didn't believe that Huananzhi would decide to issue motherboards on LGA-3647, since the platform is quite complex. But it happened.

[@Miyconst]

Let's hope they will polish it and the motherboard will actually be usable.

[@Spitlebug]

LeL. You paid half price, you got a half functioning mobo. Seems on par wit the mindset.

[@Miyconst]

Sounds about right. 😂

[@wintersx2004]

I really liked how you presented the video using a prepared script instead of improvising. I have a question. I'm confused about building a budget PC. Do you recommend the X99 motherboard, an E5 1660 v4, a motherboard from Erying, or an AMD Ryzen 7 1700x with a B350 motherboard?

[@Miyconst]

Ryzen 5 3600 or Core i3-12100F are my best picks, if that's out of the budget, then Xeon E5-2667/2690/2697A/2697 V4.

[@wintersx2004]

@Miyconst and best x99 motherboard do you recommend ?

[@flavianoc.6314]

​@@wintersx2004 buy machinist mr9a or the pro version

[@Miyconst]

See the comment above. My go to X99 motherboard from AliExpress is Machinist X99-MR9A (Pro).

[@wintersx2004]

I would like to express my sincere gratitude to both of you for your kind recommendation

[@patsy02]

The AMD driver reboot problem is not necessarily a motherboard issue. I've had similar problems when installing AMD drivers on windows 11 before, and I'm hardly alone about it. You could try to repeat it with Windows 10 to narrow it down.

[@Miyconst]

Then how do you explain the reboot with Nvidia GPUs?

[@patsy02]

@@Miyconst ancient chinese curse.

[@Miyconst]

😂

[@abdullahalhalabi1]

Thanks a lot

[@MetallixX974]

Great review, i had good hopes about this board, too bad. As much their F8D / F8D Plus are rock solid, but this X11D is too bad...

[@Miyconst]

It's the first ever iteration, the BIOS and quality should improve over time but I have no idea how long it will take them.

[@yotoprules9361]

@@Miyconst when the motherboard is so weak it cannot power a GT 710, it should never have been released in the first place.

[@Miyconst]

@@yotoprules9361 Chinese never care about releasing raw products into public testing.

[@juandenz2008]

Solid review. If they copied the super micro motherboard layout, does that have the same issue with mounting a GPU ?

[@Miyconst]

It's hard to say but from pictures it looks like Supermicro has a slightly lower chipset heatsink and PCI-E X16 slots are spread further.

[@marcusviniciusdeoliveirami2462]

Boa noite, bela explicação! Gostei muito. Um abraço

[@iraqigeek8363]

A few notes: 1) 3647 and later sockets are very sensitive to screw torque. Only Noctua has coolers for it that don't require a torque screwdriver. The required torque is different based on motherboard design, but it's generally around 0.5Nm. 2) why would you even look at this motherboard for 500$/€??? The X11DPi can be had for around 250€ on local classifieds, a bit more on ebay. Sure you're "limited" to 165W CPUs, but you can install cascade lake CPUs, which have considerably higher clocks vs skyline, especially in AVX-512. Your coolers will also struggle with anything above 165W. It also has support for ES CPUs (v2.x BIOS for skylake-ES, 3.x for cascadelake-ES), and the IPMI web interface allows out of band BIOS updates. Heck, I have updated the BIOS ok my X11DPI without CPUs installed just to see if it works, and it did. 3) the innermost DIMM to the socket on each bank is for Optane memory. You can use it for extra RAM (2DPC for 2 channels on each CPU), but that's the original intent on the X11DPI. I have them populated with Optane DIMMs, and after figuring out how to set them up in BIOS, they're very nice.

[@Miyconst]

1) Yes, I know, but in my case the pressure is certainly not an issue. Both CPUs work with six memory sticks in one socket and only five in another socket. 2) Because it's the destiny of a KZbinr to buy and test this kind of hardware so the regular consumers don't have to. 3) I don't have any optane dimms to test but in my case one of the outer most memory slots didn't work, not the additional one for 2D/channel configuration.

[@shubhamsharma4877]

I have asus c621e board. These boards most of the time comes with damaged pins. I only get correct motherboard after third replacement. Your ram issue is most likely due to bent pin or improper seated ram. I have to reseat ram 2-3 times than only all the slots started working l.

[@iraqigeek8363]

@@Miyconst Where are you in Europe? I might be able to help get some Optane DIMMs for a decent price if you're interested. I don't agree with the "destiny of a KZbinr" statement. There's a big gap in people reviewing good workstation and server motherboards from a few generations past. As an example, LGA3647 motherboards from Supermicro can be found for under 300€ in local classifieds, with some models going for under 200€. ES/QS CPUs for those are also dirt cheap, and used DDR4-2133 or 2400 sells for under 1€/GB. I found your channel and subscribed to it because of your video about the Z10PA-D8. That board is the only one I could find when I googled for dual 2011-3 in an ATX form factor from a reputable brand. The only KZbinr I know of who does that is Jeff from CraftComputing, and being in the US he focuses more on much older hardware, or weird stuff coming out of China (but that's been found to be good on online forums). Please don't take my comments in a negative way. I like what you're doing and enjoy how you show the pros and cons, and how you present your content. The only thing I'm saying is: spending time and money to review a bad product only helps others avoid it, but it doesn't provide an alternative solution. Focusing on the good cheap options out there provides a solution to people like myself who are looking for cheap workstation/server components. Cheers, and keep up the good work :)

[@Miyconst]

@@iraqigeek8363 I am in Sweden, Optane DIMMs might be interesting to test but I have no idea what is the reasonable price for these, I have already invested way too much into LGA 3647 for no good reason and need to sell something before I can buy other stuff. Regarding the destiny.. you may agree or disagree but just compare the views of the Huananzhi X11D-16D video and the Intel S2600STB video, the Intel's motherboard is way much better and costs less (at least in Europe) but people aren't interested in it, they want to see strange Chinese stuff covered.

[@ChrisJackson-js8rd]

sd card might be accessible over spi or i2c the controller chip beside it will be linked into some sort of bus - tho it may be JTAG and not be intended for use by enduser

[@Miyconst]

Yeah, that could be the case.

[@shubhamsharma4877]

Buy noctua fan. It comes with both narrow and square ILM bracket.

[@PizzaUndervolt]

They had built some brand recognition but they threw it away, i wrote about that in my website last year.

[@Miyconst]

Yeah, typical lifecycle of a Chinese company. Spin up a brand, make crap and sell cheaply, slowly gain popularity by increasing quality, then start rising the prices and offer something actually decent, once approved by consumers, use the trust to sell cheap crap until the brand dies.

[@bgdwiepp]

I buy used dell t440, it does 205W tdp, but not 240W, however full used t440 is same price as supermicro motherboard alone here

[@CounterStriker013009]

I think this motherboard can Play 3A level game :)

[@samwalker7567]

Honestly this is really disappointing - Huananzhi were my go-to X99 board maker. The X99-F8 is a really fine board, by far one of the best X99 boards if not the best (with the MR9A Pro and MR9S in extremely close contention, though the MR9A only has four RAM slots), the TF is super solid, and the F8-Dual is a really nicely made dual CPU model. Certainly the X99-F8 is one of the most feature rich X99 boards on the market and to my eye feels a lot more like something you would expect from a more mainstream manufacturer like Asus or Gigabyte. I was hoping their offering on this newer platform would live up to that standard but it really does seem like it has not!

[@DarthScape]

Some of the cpus are 6 channel, some are 8 if I recall correctly, that may be why some of the memory sockets might not work. They may be one dimm per channel.

[@Miyconst]

As far as I know, all LGA 3647 CPUs have six memory channels. If it would be a CPU limitation, it would work the same in both sockets but in my case in one socket I can install six memory sticks, in another only five.

[@Adam130694]

Realtek 8216 5Gbit chips are like $5 now, and they still decided to use 1Gbit NICs... lol

[@sophustranquillitastv4468]

Finally, chinese LGA 3647 board come out, it should have been released a year sooner. But from this video it seems the motherboard is not as stable as their X79 or X99 board for some reason. Is it that hard to make a knockoff board for these newer Xeon socket?

[@Miyconst]

It's pretty hard when you prefer a "great emperor xi" and start a trade war instead of economical development. They are cut from any significant supply or support from Intel.

[@juancarlosmoreno6343]

One question, you who know so much about these motherboards, could you tell me if the Huananzhi f8d plus motherboard supports PCI-Express x16 branching? Can I put a pci-express x16 adapter with 4 nvme m2 and will all four work? Thank you for everything, waiting for your response.

[@AlexanderBukh]

Слот памяти может отказать, если давления на сокет недостаточно. Ram slot could fail due to inadequate socket pressure.

[@Nalianna]

Out of curiosity, would the bios from the supermicro X11DPI-N work on the Huananzhi X11D-16D?

[@Miyconst]

Very unlikely but I didn't test it.

[@Nalianna]

@@Miyconst you can always flash the huananzhi bios back afterwards?

[@Miyconst]

@@Nalianna yes, but I still have a hope to send the motherboad back and if I mess with the BIOS they may use it as a reason to reject the return.

[@Nalianna]

@@Miyconst gotcha. good plan. :)

[@FTLN]

When can we expect sapphire rapids Chinese motherboards ?

[@Miyconst]

I wouldn't expect that, if you need that many cores and connectivity - go with AMD EPYC.

[@FTLN]

@@Miyconst So what are the latest and greatest motherboards that support Epyc ?

[@xojo]

try rubbing alcohol and a toothbrush on the the problem memory slot, not joking. also scrubbing the cpu pads could help since you did get paste on it

[@Miyconst]

I got the paste onto the CPU after testing but the pads were cleaned with alcohol before and after that, so it's surely not a pad issue. Tooth brush into a memory slot.. that sounds dangerous but I will try it if they don't accept refund.

[@yotoprules9361]

This is way worse than I expected, what were Huananzhi thinking? This product is completely unusable.

[@Miyconst]

The problem is that they didn't think.

[@peterchapman69]

that a shame :( - i am looking for alternative for dual 3647 motherboards - i have numerous 3647 cpu's spare after upgrades

[@Miyconst]

Yeah, I have no clue why thy started with a dual socket motherboard. Small, cheap, but working single socket option would have been much better.

[@foxesbtw7453]

Hey! Been following you for a while now, and wanted to ask you smth. Trying to build a 300€ machine, mainly for fun and knowledge, but would be great to game on it. In reality, I edit videos from a M1 MacBook air for work, so I'm very curious about this machine performance on davinci resolve compared to mine's. Also, I will need some basic 3d modeling for college in a few months so I think this should kill it. I thought about this for the build: E5 2697 v3 (17€) X99 Machinist aliexpress (33€) Ali cooler double fan (11€, prob not worth it but I'm gonna find out) 1tb nvme SSD (51€ black Friday from amazon) 600W Riotoro builder (found it used for 35€) Then a friend of mine offered me this bundle: rx6600 + 16gb ram ddr4 (no ecc) + sharkoon case all for 190€) What you think abt it?

[@Miyconst]

That's a very decent build for €300 but if you want to target Resolve specifically, you need an Nvidia GPU. RX 6600 can do it but the performance won't be the best. RTX 3060 12 GB would be way much better.

[@foxesbtw7453]

@ thank you very much! Seeing the good offer for my friend I think i'll buy the rx at first to sell and change with the 3060. Go on with you work, really appreciate your videos!

[@audiophileuser]

How's the Idle wattage?

[@Miyconst]

It's about 80 watts in my configuration.

[@user-nl7hw7uh1m]

Does anyone know what the cheapest LGA3647 board is? From a popular OEM. And not these huanazhi of machinist boards. Even if it's single socket.

[@Miyconst]

Dell T7820 is probably your best bet.

[@user-nl7hw7uh1m]

@@Miyconst thank you. I'll check it out

[@daboogiemansass]

Seems Huananzhi have went to shit. Excellent review thank you.

[@tubularmonkeymaniac]

Wow what a piece of Лайно! And it costs 500😂

[@dimka2521]

Привіт , в мене таке питання мат плата asus h110m a/m і проц xeon e3 1230v5 Не можу ввімкнути tpm 2.0 підкажи будь ласка шо робити не можу встановити антічіт шоб пограти дякую .

[@Miyconst]

Наскільки я знаю, треба купувати та встановлювати зовнішній TPM 2.0 модуль.

[@dimka2521]

@Miyconst я подивився відео і там вставляли модуль під відюхою , вмене під відюхою один вільний com порт це він? Якшо так то в мене на цьому порті 10 пін а в інтернеті я бачу тільки 12 пін продаються

[@Miyconst]

@@dimka2521 ні, COM-порт це зовсім інше, я глянув специфікацію плати і здається, на ній бракує з'єднувача TPM, тому без шансів, лише переходити назад на Windows 10.

[@chornogora]

Давай бенчмарки!!

[@yuralmspw4911]

hope you can get a full refund for this crap. thank you for your work

[@depralexcrimson]

11:30 it's not even close to touching the ram sticks lol.

[@Miyconst]

Probably I should have made a better clip. The GPU bends the last memory stick if I try to put it straight and seat in the slot.

[@oscarcharliezulu]

We need to talk about that haircut tho.

[@Miyconst]

Okay, let's talk about it. 😂

[@CatalystReaction]

only until after abt 10m, the video just seemed like a really long winded fit abt having to pay for a motherboard...

[@jamesgarrett3000]

WOW, that is a ridiculously bad board. you can't even put in a full sized GPU!?!?!

[@Miyconst]

Well.. you can put a full sized GPU of a traditional reference design.

[@section279]

It’s a server board. It’s designed for network and graphics cards that aren’t designed for consumers, there don’t have fans or thick back plates. Sometimes you would also see mezzanine adapters and right angled riser PCBs. Just get a PCIE riser cable and mount it elsewhere.

[@victoryeung2844]

Their QC and engineering is so questionable

[@joels7605]

Wow. Bad form Huananzhi. Bad form.

[@STEELFOX2000]

HALF THE PRICE AND STILL A BAD DEAL!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Donderfer]

🐒🤣 it would be a great mistake to assume from the start that a chinese board would even work.

[@michaellegg9381]

It's a scummy scam product it's why you couldn't get a review sample but as soon as you offer $$ they was ok then.. half price then you get whatever scraps they had in a bin!! It's all about $$ not your experience with the device

[@Miyconst]

Yeah, unfortunately it seems to be so.

[@charlesturner897]

I have no idea why anyone would actually buy these Chinese knock off motherboards, you aren't getting more for your money, you're getting exactly what you pay for, junk.

[@Miyconst]

It's just the destiny of KZbinrs to buy and test junk. 😃

[@charlesturner897]

@Miyconst well, yes, if you're a reviewer you have to take the fall unfortunately, but so many people buy "new" Chinese boards instead of a used real board thinking that because it's newer it's better

[@shionn80]

OMG it's look like to be more trash than i imagine