Sodium-ion Batteries: Interview with Dr. Laura Lander

[@BobDiaz123]

It should be very interesting to see where battery technology goes over the next 20 years. The idea that battery chemistry will be tuned to best fit the needs of the application makes a lot of sense.

Which storage technology would you expect take the lead in residential photovoltaic systems?

[@ecospider5]

Great interview. Very informative.

[@angelmachado7322]

In California, USA is NATRON ENERGY who is Manufacturing Na-ion batteries since several years ago. There is also AMTE POWER in Scothland and INDI ENERGY in India who are both very close to the mass production stage.

[@iajdani]

CATL seems doing it for EV

[@johnjakson444]

I wonder if it makes sense to combine water desalination with sodium production for Na batteries, using the very high salt water from the desal waste, solves several problems at once.

[@rameshkaushik3530]

Please suggest any powder which can be used to convert h2so4 acid battery to gell battery.

[@krish_entertainment]

Main drawback of sodium ion batteries is anode graphite not suitable for sodium as anode which is fit for li-ion more research should be done on this However, I'm doing my Ph.D on sodium looking for more such vedios it's very interesting If you plan a discussion or debit about such topics with 3 to 4 members maybe we can share more knowledge

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

is graphite with silicon nanowires an option? it has a lot of room for storage.

[@yarpenzigrin1893]

The current solution is to use hard carbon instead of graphite. That may not be the perfect solution but it works and is actually less expensive than graphite.

[@kamrankhan-ku5hk]

Krishna katta Yes I'm interested to debate on this batteries talk. Because I have also research on this topic (M.phil).

[@texastexas4541]

Is the negative terminal at low potential compared to positive terminal? If so, how would electrons move from low to high potential? Everyone uses water tank analogy to tell us that things move from high to low potential.

[@wlhgmk]

I wonder if charcoal made by pyrolyzing bamboo would work for one of the electrodes.

[@yarpenzigrin1893]

It would. It's not the most sophisticated solution but it works.

[@ycplum7062]

What is the recycling potential? That will become a factor down the road.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

Probably less than lithium because the ingredients are cheaper. But maybe they will last longer.

[@Dickie2702]

@@jamesvandamme7786 from what I have read they are recyclable and a much greener proposition. If CATL are involved they are the player in current battery tech.

[@ecospider5]

Good point. When the value of the minerals in an object are high the recycling happens naturally. If a sodium battery have nothing of value in it it might be hard to get recycling done. Maybe they should add more platinum:)

[@Dickie2702]

@@ecospider5 definately re-recyclable and way longer lifespan.

[@jorgen8630]

I can see Sodium batteries being used in homes to store electricity from solarpanels in the future because space and weight won't be a problem there. Another pro is that they don't overheat as fast and have a longer lifetime. Right now Li-Ion is not really that great of an investment when storing electricity in homes just because of their lifetime and cost.

[@johnwest7993]

While safety is an issue in battery tech, so too is temperature. For instance, if you try to charge lithium batteries at temperatures below freezing you will very rapidly destroy them. So anyone using them has to keep them warm. That can be a pain compared to working with even older battery types like lead acid that you can still charge at -20 degrees F, no problem. So a variety of different battery types will all have a place in the future of battery power.

[@anastigmatix4119]

LTO chemistry is not limited wrt temperature.

[@johnwest7993]

@@anastigmatix4119, a different chemistry for different applications.

[@computerbob06]

Surely it opens up the options for home storage, especially as we won't need to replace them as often as lithium ion batteries used in home storage, due to their higher cycling ability!? Many home storage Lithium batteries having guarantees of only 10 years or around a few thousand cycles!

[@ecospider5]

It should be a great competitor to lifepo4

[@sarvjeetmalik1659]

well reliance industry is gong to acquire faradin , it will be interesting to watch applcations and commercialization in coming years .

[@adilamin686]

How are they cheaper? How much is vanadium etc needed? Because these metsls do not have much reserves...

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

Thumb down just for unnecessary subtitles. They should be in the subchannel where they can be turned off.

[@chesshooligan1282]

Nothing wrong with the subtitles. She's clearly not a native speaker.

[@ronaldgarrison5528]

@@chesshooligan1282 The subtitles are obviously not for her. You're not making any sense.

[@thegreatauk01]

The GAC Aion EV now uses them.

[@LionHeartOG]

Sodium ion batteries in 1910 tech were getting a 1000 miles in a single charge. So why not ev application and how is it still needing R&D after 110 years later?

[@jamesvandamme7786]

People want to go faster than ten miles an hour. Batteries are not rated in miles per charge.

[@The_Quaalude]

Cars in 1910 were 💩

[@philip5940]

To be sure there ain't any translation anomalies...... NiFe batteries were used likely around 1910 , that's Nickel Iron batteries. Na is for sodium, Ni is for nickel . Iron and ion get pronounced kinda similarly.

[@philip5940]

So the sodium sulphur batteries had that little problem with needing a high temperature to operate and a ceramic electrolyte was feasible at the temperature of operation . Some commercial cylindrical batteries were made i beleive at 2 inch diameter or suchlike. But then the new lithium ion battery soon hit the market . Criticism of sodium sulphur related to the what ifs of a crash situation if used in electric cars . The vehicle fires of lithium ion powered vehicles have been serious incidents .

[@AdamK985]

Now if you could use brine in order to make these batteries it would be a massive help with the world water issue. All the new desalination plants that are being and will be built would create a huge amount of product that should not be pumped back into the oceans.

[@anastigmatix4119]

Geothermal wells offer a bountiful source of Lithium.

[@ecospider5]

Wow fantastic idea. Brine is a big problem. It would be great if it became valuable.

[@strongme80]

@@ecospider5 Yeah there's a Desalination Plant here in Huntington Beach, CA that some people doesn't want activated. It's brine would be sold to widen its margin. I can't imagine brine would be expensive either.

[@obfuscatid]

Interesting and informative. I'm not being sarcastic and was able to understand everything said.

[@mogeking56]

That one wheel is going to skin up a lot of people

[@lancesmit1021]

I'm in love!

[@nomad3474]

Thankyou doctor for your beautiful explanation.

[@najibyarzerachic]

That is weird. I feel I know more about sodium ion battery players just googling than the researcher in the field and journalist specializing in batteries.

[@martinoriz7524]

Unless you were abandoned in a desert island after you were born, with all the resources needed to survive and live forever without human interaction, then you have been working for mommy, daddy, and your temporary bosses, or you´ve been selling your body and soul and your products with a big smile in your face. Like we all do.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@martinoriz7524 Or you are on the top of the food chain and dictate what all others have to smile at. Yes.

[@rogueproductions9011]

Check out GWSO's sodium ion battery for EVs

[@The_Quaalude]

Shawty kinda fine 💯

[@Rural-Indonesia]

Very pretty lady. I like..

[@EpicWinz]

Wowwahweewah!

[@investingthelike111]

hot nerd ooooh yer and Dr Laura isn't too bad either

[@douglaskaye1395]

Sodium batteries are already being used in EV’s. I don’t know the long term results. VW’s and a couple of others are currently in production. The range might not be as far, but the temperature range is impressive. The charge time is less and the chemistry have great advantages. My main issue with EV’s in general is RANGE!!!! 500/charge at a minimum

[@devonvankraft]

Impressive… 👍

[@antonanton5503]

silicon sodium battery will reach top of battery need

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

They will and already have their use cases. But are certainly not the best choice for everything.

[@johnjakson444]

Sodium is about 10,000 times more plentiful than Lithium, so that's nice, also no nickel or cobalt needed either.

[@mr.greengold8236]

Why can't we do Sodium Chloride batteries?? Just sodium chloride.

[@adairjanney7109]

Natural Gas battery ftw

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Sodium batteries will not be used for grid storage applications. Sodium batteries have about 1000 Cycles vs. 6000-10000 for LFP batteries at about the same price. That makes no sense. Sodium batteries will be used in all applications where price is everything and everything else is secondary. Vehicles, Trains, Boats in Asia, Africa and South America. Solar will use mostly LFP and some other tech like compressed air and redox flow. „Western“ vehicles in China, Japan, US and Europe will use LFP and NMC/NMA chemistries.

[@channguyen3349]

At 5:31 she says that sodium ion has longer lifetime than Lithium ion batteries.

[@alanjenkins1508]

There is not enough lithium in the world for all the predicted car batteries, let alone other uses such as grid storage.

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

@@alanjenkins1508 but in more modern batteries, the energy content increases which means less lithium per kWh. btw. we have enough lithium. it is in small amounts in sea water and concentrated brine is a waste product of desalination.

[@anastigmatix4119]

@@alanjenkins1508 Lithium is one of the top 3 most plentiful elements on Earth.

[@QDStrength]

does she??

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Once super charging is ubiquitous along with fast charging EVs, battery range will largely become irrelevant. A 200 mile range would be more than adequate. You need to rest anyway every 200 miles driving, so you can fast charge to 80% then. Also large scale storage is better suited to sodium ion technology, due to safety.

[@drei4nein794]

Bruh 2023 catl massproduction

[@mictianabsterges1313]

CHARMING

[@engineerawesome2060]

Imagine a few ions vs a carbon 3 triple bonds converting into single bonds. Bit of a long shot but would be A+ energy release/charge...?

[@brian.louis107]

Seems like every new battery technology has a major flaw in its use for car battery use. It's all hype with the catch phrase "Could one day replace lithium..." It's all investor attracting hype.

[@ramakrishna5480]

She clearly doesn't have much information about sodium ion batteries

[@Planetside2Simon8989]

Says the guy from the internet somewhere from India to a graduated doctor scientist

[@ramakrishna5480]

@@Planetside2Simon8989 where u from, Disney land?

[@The_Quaalude]

@@ramakrishna5480 America bitch 🇺🇸

[@philip5940]

It's for the layfolk.

[@booksquotes948]

indian company reliance is betting on it

[@haripurwantoui]

all I can see here is a very smart and beautiful young woman

[@philip5940]

Yes, and the glasses may be intended as misdirection. There were one or two Get Smart TV episodes with a female Control researcher scientist and I think her cover was as a nightclub dancer or stripper ,,, not remember ing too well .

[@RobinRastle]

Year old and completely dated - why dont these puff vids have a self destruct time limit

[@onmyworkbench7000]

So sodium ion batteries are just like Lithium ion batteries only DIFFERENT!!! And Dogs are just like Cats only DIFFERENT!!!

[@andyb7963]

Different

[@onmyworkbench7000]

@@andyb7963 I would like to thank you Andy B AKA Suzy spellchecker for correcting my spelling of DIFERENT, now all is well in the world and now Putin will stop his assault on Ukraine and he will pay to rebuild all of the damage that he has done and there will be worldwide peace starting in the middle east, gas will be under a dollar a gallon again , CATS and DOGS getting along and you will get interest above 0 on your bank account and its all due to Andy B correcting my spelling. Thank You so much Andy B.

[@stephenowens5375]

That's a diferent different 😁

[@portman8909]

Sodium is cheaper and more resourceful than lithium.

[@onmyworkbench7000]

@@portman8909 I had two 48 volt Sodium Ion Batteries that were suppose to last 18 to 20 years and they died in less than 4 years no more for me!

[@jeebus6263]

I hear her speaking, but i didn't understand anything she said except "umm"

[@anastigmatix4119]

Self help: use the CC button.

[@jeebus6263]

@@anastigmatix4119 thanks, that's not the issue though.

[@Bemx2k]

500Wh in 1kg as soon as possible otherwise whole this electromobility is a big Joke