Soft Dutchmen

A very small old growth fir that has about 5' of head lean to the right. I am using a "soft" Dutchmen to swing it around 180 degrees to the left without wedging it. The term soft is used because of the additional saw cuts in the undercut on the left side. They are cut in pretty much parallel to the the top of the face cut. Each successive cut is sawed in about 2" less than the previous one. This allows the tree to to set down on the stump wood more gently and helps to prevent the holding wood from breaking prematurely.
I am currently available for port work.
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Thanks for watching!

[@dannysulyma6273]

I'm not sure what I am more impressed by, your tree swinging skills or the quality of your videos. Best thing is the lack of bravado which pollutes most of what I see. Your just a man doing his job, (extremely well), and showing us as you do it. Whichever it is, I want more of it so count me as a new subscriber. Thank you and Cheers !

[@vogrigoutdoor7284]

danny sulyma Agreed!

[@AugustHunicke]

Nice cut. Very professional example and good camera placement. Classy cutter, Classy video.

[@TheBrushcutter]

August, I have seen videos of some of your work and you are no slob yourself. A compliment from one of your caliber is a compliment indeed. I am no professional, not by a long shot but there are some folks on KZbin who have taught me a tremendous amount about felling. Nutsy, yourself, and a few others not only instruct but rather, I dare say, save lives, limbs and property through your instructions. It is truly a joy to watch you guys work and then apply it to a tree and have it work the same. Thanks to you all for teaching!

[@AugustHunicke]

GREGG G thanks Gregg

[@prestonmadplume7665]

Your like a poet with that chainsaw.

[@timber2020]

I think your the first person on you tube to cut a tree using a dutchmen. GOOD JOB!

[@raybobkowalski2154]

I love watching a man that knows what the hell he's talking about good job logger,you are a credit to the craft my friend

[@MrRmh3481]

Ten years have flown by, did you realize the time has really gone quick? Hope all is well. God Bless.

[@hotsaws101]

MrRmh hi. When you mentioned this, I thought about it a little. That was a lot of units/undercuts/miles traveled ago. Seems about right when considering the previous decade's activities..... Thanks for watching and blessings on this, His day.

[@Johnny82ify]

That is a hillbilly stump roll-a-round/ rim roll. I tried to find someone doing it on the internet and never could. Dutchmen, I’ve never heard it called that but I like it. It’s a mark of an experienced timber feller. It’s the fastest way to drop a tree that needs pulled anyway.

[@hotsaws101]

Jonathan hi. One of the easiest ways to loose saw in all reality. I listed of a few pitfalls to Mr. Kleffner above. Thanks for watching.

[@jimhammond2396]

Nice looking pair of chaps jack

[@budgillett9627]

I really appreciate your simple God honoring comments!

[@hotsaws101]

Thanks for the complement, but I am just an average "Joe" timberfaller with a few tricks up my sleave (well not any more)... The reason I can "get" away with some of the things is I have probably tried it or something similar. Maybe even WRECKED a tree in the process of the maneuver. The benefit is you generally know what will and will NOT work in advance. The caveots are endless, can you get the timing right, enough weight on the butt to do what's needed, the top in the right spot etc., etc.

[@iryan3938]

hotsaws101 it’s your humbleness that is most appealing. With your skill a very close second . Even though the two going hand in hand is I think what your viewers appreciate most. Thanks for the education and entertainment 👍

[@alanross3435]

Hot saws, You're too much!🌲🌲🌲👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻✌🏻️

[@rwmcmullin]

"Soft Dutchmen" - wow!

[@moxietube]

a very nice job from a skilled crafstman . greetings from a dutchmen

[@JM-jd7yp]

From England. Very impressive..you were in command throughout. A true professional. Thank you

[@hotsaws101]

Thank you.

[@robertodebeers2551]

Excellent. Thanks for this good view of your soft Dutchman.

[@stevencroon]

That's the nicest touch on a Dutchman I have ever seen. My old saw pard was good but that was awesome.

[@harryharry3193]

I love your Videos sir. I particularly loved the Humbolt videos....but I am impressed with your cutting skills, your cool, and how you present all of this. salute.

[@thetruth7046]

Some things in life are just plain beautiful when done correctly.

[@Pugsgunsandstuff]

Very cool. Always nice to watch an expert at work.

[@highcountrytimber]

Nice job. The dutchman technique is one of my favorite tricks for heavy weight leaning trees.

[@Derwentmole]

Would love to have seen that stump close up! Nice video

[@johncurrie1789]

Great job! Always learn something watching your videos.

[@TGCIII]

top notch! we all love when a plan comes together! when it stops being a plan to u and becomes a fact, thats when ur hittin on all 8. don't matter if u think u can or u think u can't, ur always right! top notch!

[@leroymorris6036]

Thats some crazy skills, thanks for the show...

[@JacobGilkerson]

very well executed. nicely done

[@kleffner123456]

That is a cut you don't learn over night. Outstanding job!!

[@hotsaws101]

Mark hi. Yessiree. Better be able to buy a new saw or two in the learning process. Better not be anywhere around a house, valuable property, or the creek zone when you start attempting this maneuver. Thanks for watching.

[@we7438]

Nice stuff. I'm an Arborist in SoCal and don't get to fell 'em very much. Usually a condo, fence, or power lines in the way. Looking forward to more vids. Please keep them coming!

[@ravenshield7823]

Uncanny, That is something I would love to know how to do with confidence. Excellent job.

[@345MEdigger]

that's artwork just amazing!!!!!!!!!!

[@42stheAnswer]

Pretty sure dude just defied the laws of physics...

[@timkirkpatrick9155]

real slick! good technique.

[@LumberjackSmokestack]

Nicely done!

[@DavidJones-smiley]

Tree slaying master!

[@reb4898]

Well, I am impressed...

[@tonythornton9903]

R Riddl

[@DIESELMAN8V92]

Love your videos man :) keep it up!!!!! your helping to improve my skills, I have read alot of felling books, but to see it gives me an idea of how its done :)

[@nytreeman]

Nice Job!

[@zaquep]

pure tree gawd . that was executed beautifully- i'd pay money just to come out and learn more from you. thanks for posting urban forestry seattle

[@hotsaws101]

Z Pollard hi. Just man. I payed attention to the process and tried new things - wrecked a few trees over the years.... Thanks for watching.

[@davesterling1713]

Awesomeness bro love watching this every time

[@hotsaws101]

Check out a newly posted "Ultra Soft Dutchmen" video for a closer look and some explanation. Thanks for watching!

[@robertdouglas3456]

Great skills!🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@TheExtremetree]

A most difficult throw, Fav'ed and sub'ed ya bro. My skill would not afford me an attempt like this without additional training.

[@chrischiampo7647]

That’s A Perfect Falling 😮😲😮😀😊👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@garybenedict3673]

Well done

[@marcoripamonti7566]

Amazing!!

[@kingslew1866]

Thanks for that, I get tired of watching cutters on KZbin beating everything over with wedges (grin). Dutchman on a doug fir is going to work fine due to the strong fibers, other species not so much, but doable most of the time. I recommend keeping your back cut at least two inches above your face cut and starting it on the far side getting under the lean, making sure the cuts cross and walking it back around to the high side. Watch the top when you're putting the face cut in and get well under the lean, then just gun it for the lay... Thanks again for the vid, takes me back...

[@w8stral]

He did not make a Shit backcut like that because he is TIMBER falling genius and did not want to cut the butt end again. You only do the high backcut if you are worried about your escape direction and butt potentially kicking back. Dear moron, the LEAN was OPPOSITE face cut...

[@TheIrongutz]

Done like a boss

[@cbr600rrturbo]

That was awesome

[@j5long]

if I attempted this I would lose my saw and probably drop the tree on my house. Nicely done sir..

[@hotsaws101]

j5long hi. I listed a few pit falls to attempting this maneuver in my response to Mr. Kleffner above. Thanks for watching.

[@MrAirbiscut]

Awesome camera placement to get the best angle on what you were doing

[@varnusmaximus3915]

nice chop

[@MrRmh3481]

Always exceptional work. Your mental attitude is great too. Best wishes for continued success!

[@MrMom4]

That cut was so neat i wish that i was good enough to use it. Know anymore diffrent types of notches?? Never heard of this notch. I am from the Great Lakes area not a logger eather. Good video voted 5 stars. Keep the video coming. Thanks Alot Mr Mom4

[@KimballCody]

Skills

[@johnrobertson7583]

Nice technique. I would not have expected that fall had you not been explaining it. Ive twisted a max of 60 degrees using a small corner of the felling notch chunk laid back into the notch. I guess a simplified way of doing a Sizwill.

[@hotsaws101]

John hi. Your method of leveraging the tree off the gun with a Dutchman is a different maneuver. The swing, or swing cut, might be the easiest way to lose a tree over backward. The wood on the downhill side gets cut completely off from the front of the face.Then the tree is finessed around via sawing the side opposite holding wood up from the top, rear corner. The sizwell is not a swing. Although, they work well in conjunction with a swing. A sizwell is relief cuts in front of the hinge on the opposite side that a swing cut takes place. Generally on tte up hill side of the tree. This channel shows the sizwell in a few videos. Thanks for watching.

[@johnrobertson7583]

Thanks for the reply friend. And sorry for my late acknowledgement. I guess i did not see it pop up in my notifications. At the time of figuring out my “Chunkman” …i was only aware of how i could use a dutchman widened on one end to give me space…and had no real need or even idea of other useful cuts for felling heavy wrong leaners. Thanks.

[@TO-vw3sy]

Wow!

[@woodchuckman2753]

Is that also called the triple hinge cut by the the way great job felling the tree

[@hotsaws101]

Hdhsbs Bxhxhshzn hi. Technically speaking this is how to swing a tree ~ 180º without wedging by using a Dutchmen (the pie shaped piece left in on the far side). I did posted a video years ago with a double hinge from this same strip. Thanks for watching.

[@neild7971]

@Hdhsbs Bxhxhshzn As I understand it the triple hinge is created by vertical bore cuts within a thick hinge allowing the sections of hinge to move against each other and prolong the hold when side weight is an issue. This cut is a series of relief cuts in front and bellow the hinge. Softening the breaking forces in one side of the hinge once the undercut has reached closing, and so swinging the tree. I think this is correct, and helps. I have felled many trees and not needed these techniques, but good to know should the need arise!

[@rngrchad]

Very cool. Your vids never leave something to be desired. Impressive. You must still be working hard huh? Economies tough everywhere right now, nobodies buying scrap steel, I can't find enough construction and demolition debris to haul, and certainly I wouldn't think the mills would be buying up much wood, but interestingly you keep cranking out great videos. Hope you making some greenbacks from all that hard work; if nothing else enough to pay for the pre-mix and torn up clothes LOL.

[@tylerbate284]

Did you intentionally cut some of the hinge wood on the lean side? I thought you did. Very cool, it's hard to see the swing in videos I find, all videos. Maybe it's just cause I'm an amateur trying to learn lol

[@MrThenry1988]

Hmmmm. That's pretty neat. I have to study this. If either cut goes to far, all bets are off. I've been dropping trees for a log cabin. I have plenty of room to mess up so I tinker a little.

[@hotsaws101]

Tim hi. Be prepared to lose them over backwards. Good way to lose a saw too. - You have been warned. Good luck at any rate. Thanks for watching.

[@MrThenry1988]

@@hotsaws101 Lol. My wife is rich. Well, she should be.

[@treecutter3333]

i have watched all of your videos and really enjoyed them all. really like the way you give God all the glory.... that doesnt happen too much any more!!! God Bless and hope to c more videos from you.

[@skydiverclassc2031]

I kept silently saying "Get out of the way, camera man, it's coming down." I guess the tripod didn't hear me.

[@Zaneathankid]

PLEASE MAKE MORE VIDEOS!!!!!

[@outlaw7615]

I wanted to know how you did it, no doubt about your talent, I'm a traditional and finish carpenter, I'm tryin to learn this stuff, how do you make it fall the way you want with just a saw.

[@hotsaws101]

Most of it is experience. This is one of the easiest ways to crush your saw that I know of. Be prepared to loose your saw and the tree (backwards) if you try this maneuver. It is hard to get the tree to go right when it leans left. It is most properly demonstrated in person. Thanks for watching.

[@hadzsmith5337]

hotsaws101 top answer bro

[@ryanslogging7069]

weres the stihl ? nice looking timber fun to cut at that size .. hey quick question what's your thoughts on the makita ? I've been looking to buy something different while my baby is getting redone plus there's no such thing as to many chainsaws lol

[@hotsaws101]

Ryans Logging hi. I cut most of my volume with Husqvarna chainsaws in all actuality. Assuming you reference the 7900 (orange) Makita. Ahead of their time in many aspects. They were designed ~ 15 years ago. Don't weigh anymore then a 500i. Finesse cutter type mo-chine lest you break mounts. Coil cuts in to low so that's an upgrade. Upper spring mount system needs an adjust. Oiler needs a mod to oil well for a long period of time. The SLR system in the exhaust has to go so that takes extra time. Expensive to get up to speed. There are multiple videos going back ~ 10 years on this channel with various 7900 Dolmar/Makita saws. One from last fall shows a beast. Just as long as the wife doesn't do an in promtu man cave inspection we're all good, LOL! Thanks for watching.

[@bondtanna99]

I just got in the business of murdering trees (respectfully) and I’ve been subscribed to your channel for around 2 months. Wisdom can’t be bought, and if it could be, it would take an Iranian Oil Man to purchase yours! All jokes aside, you are the damn man Hotsaws, it’s nuts that you don’t have more followers! I have 1 saw at the moment with aspirations of having many more with more and more power! My little MS 261 psycho’d or insane’od would be a dream lol. #RESPECT

[@iredfox11]

Freaking awesome

[@iredfox11]

Are you still building saws?

[@hotsaws101]

Ian hi. Yes. Thanks for watching.

[@iredfox11]

Do you have a website or a contact info wondered if it's possible to send you a saw to get worked over

[@sawdustandsweat1750]

Also called a triple hinge here on the east coast

[@hotsaws101]

S & S hi. Ummm, I am not sure about that. There was only a single pivot point in the stump and it was only about ½ the diameter. There were no longitudinal relief cuts behind the main hinge which allow the holding wood to move forward, more so than the far side, before breaking. I cut off the far side holding wood in during the process of leveraging a back leaning tree forward, against it's will, without wedging, jacking or pulling. This is actually a swing. With a soft Dutchman thrown in so the tree did not come around to far. The Faller's Corner - HARD Side Leaning Tree, Sizwell AND A Triple Hinge, With A Mid-Distance Push video shows what a triple hinge looks like. Along with a sizwell. The video - Hard Side Leaner posted 10/12 years ago shows a variation of a double hinge. I think that there other videos in the collection that show multiple hinge scenarios also. Thanks for watching.

[@hotsaws101]

@whitnerw "Ultra Soft Dutchman"

[@TomBrooklyn]

My daddy always told me to escape the area when the tree starts moving. Is it required to say with the back cut after the tree starts moving when felling a tree in a direction other than the way it's leaning?

[@hotsaws101]

Tom hi. There are instances, where to get the tree in the slot, it requires a guy to stick with it. Well, with what a guy may have to deal with out on the Left Coast anyway. Thanks for watching.

[@jureslegel3877]

interesting thing to me is how deep his notch is. I am asking because from my experience trees that lean other way you want them to if your notch is too deep it is big chance tree sits on your saw when you start to cut it from behind. But i dont use humboldt cut so i dont know how is done with this method.

[@hotsaws101]

Jure hi. This will work, provided the guy knows what he is doing, with the Farmer's (overhand), Saginaw (some from both top and bottom), my funkyface, true Humboldt, and the new age or modified Humboldt. That's the trick. Get a tree leaning 180º away from the desired direction to go where you need it to hit. Thanks for watching.

[@cameronb76]

I'm struggling to understand how you accomplished this?? A lot tried to explain it once and I just can't wrap my head around this concept..

[@andypettit5869]

Kicker

[@kevins5166]

What’s the difference between this and a sizwheel cut?

[@hotsaws101]

Kevin hi. They are happening on the opposite side of the tree. So everything is different. This is, technically speaking, a swing. The tree leaned the opposite direction from the way it fell. No wedging, jacking, or pushing was utilized to get it to go the opposite direction from the lean. Nutshell - A Sizwell, or Sizwheel however it is referred, removes wood from the stump on the front side of the hinge. This allows the holding wood on the sizwell side to move forward and hold on longer than the hinge wood on the far side. The "World's Ugliest Stump" video on this channel from 10/12 years ago shows a Sizwell. There are a few more recent videos also. Thanks for watching.

[@fergusonlandmanagementweld1039]

If you do this again, can you explain your cut's as you are doing them? I think I know why you did them the way you did, but it would be great to have it explained to be certain. Good cut BTW.

[@hotsaws101]

F L M hi. This is about at the top for expertise required. It's the easiest way to lose a tree over backward that I know of. Better be prepared to also lose a saw if/when attempting this maneuver. Simple answer, cut the bottom of the hinge completely off - which gets the tree to settle down a bit. Saw the top near side holding wood until the tree sits on the stump. Feather it around, BUT,,,, absolutely do not cut the upper part of the hinge wood off. Having the face out is a given... If your thinking it looks easy and/or simple, not so. Knowing your wood is imperative. Know how to feather it is paramount. Thanks for watching.

[@fergusonlandmanagementweld1039]

@@hotsaws101 Thanks for that, it's very helpful. I'm definitely not going to be trying that on a leaner over a house for the first time. Lol! I appreciate the info. We dont normally have tall straight tree's here in South Texas. We have big gnarly Live Oaks with limbs going everywhere. But knowing how to do that would be a good skill to hone. Have a Blessed One.

[@mikechestnut4356]

I spent 5 years working solo in the woods slowly learning how to swing a tree but you sir make it look easy. My only concern with this cut is that you're obviously close to the cut up to the moment of the fall. Seeing how she kicks off the face is it fair to say that the soft Dutchman is relatively risky?

[@hotsaws101]

Mike hi. Sorry for the delayed response. It is the easiest way to lose a tree over backward. It is one of the easiest ways to lose a tree sideways. One of the easier ways to lose a saw when they are small like this tree. In the end, better be prepared to fix fence, clean creek, or buy a new saw/parts. Thanks for watching.

[@supporterofsanity]

Wow

[@rwdyer2263]

Wow. that was beautifully excecuted. You are a real artist. Nicely done and great training video. I didn't see hearing protection but maybe you have earplugs but other than that I didn't see anything wrong. Hope you have more videos.

[@ravenshield7823]

When you place your axe in the back, is this to prevent the tree from sitting back on the saw or to give it the initial lateral swing and momentum as you sort of undermine it, or both? I can't be anymore impressed by this and also don't fully understand it. I keep coming back to this because it's easily the most complicated cut I've ever witnessed but you make it look simple.

[@hotsaws101]

RavenShield78 hi. I'm watching for movement, either fore or aft, of the bole. I don't think that an axe will stop a tree from setting back. But, I've never tried either. This maneuver is the single easiest way to lose a tree over backward that I know of. Many a faller has had to clean out the creek, fix a fence, replace a roof while attempting to use this method. IF a guy was to try it, better be fully prepared to replace your saw. Fallers have smashed more saws than the three previous mentioned scenarios combined. Thanks for watching.

[@ravenshield7823]

@@hotsaws101 I really appreciate you taking time to answer my question. I would never attempt this unless it was a lone tree in a field just for the practice and experience. It's an amazing achievement to do what you did, in my eyes. I also appreciate the warning. It make me wonder how this method was even conceived, and how you leaned to do it. Really Impressive stuff.

[@danowen9142]

CLOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mopster1913]

? How and what is a soft dutchman? There were so many branches on the other side

[@hotsaws101]

Steven hi. It is leaving a block of wood in the face that has chain kerfs sawn into it making it less solid. It is done in an attempt to get a tree to something against "it's own free will" and is used in conjunction with a swing, which technically speaking, is what I did to this tree. Thanks for watching.

[@renefreamo3614]

the soft Dutchman looks alot like the modified Humboldt! could you explain the difference. thanks

[@FF43659]

RENE Freamo The modified Humboldt just opens the face so the tree can come off the stump , this cut creates a ramp like affect so as it falls it rocks on the stump changing direction.

[@murphy4trees]

Jack, hope all is well with you and yours. Got a question for you, because its been a matter of debate on the tree forums. Some are saying that it's impossible to swing a tree a full 180 degrees with only a saw. Its really difficult to show the lean of a tree on video (just think how much it takes to do it in person). So just to be 100 percent clear. You are able to swing a tree a full 180. degrees. And if so would you care to share some of the parameters of the task, species, size, lean, etc. thanks in advance. And thanks for sharing so much great info for so many years. Personally, if you said it I believe it, whether or not it's clear from the video. Also, has this ability to turn a tree 180 degrees been known and practiced by other experienced fallers? thanks in advance. Daniel

[@hotsaws101]

Daniel hi. How about you email me please. Thanks for watching.

[@hotsaws101]

Daniel hi. We are. Hope the same for you. I think that it is possible/doable. I use it when the conditions are right. I think that those who know, know. Sometimes they will come around more than that and hit to high also. Knowing what your up against - the lean of the tree is part of this. Knowing your wood - since not all trees are a candidate. Understanding the wood in the bole at base is paramount. Size doesn't really come into play. Contour/shape of the bole as it heads up. Height can be a consideration at times. Your asking for a nutshell overview on a maneuver that I've used since I started felling timber. The nuance factor is off the charts. It would take a dissertation. It's been around for years. More than 40 that I know of. I've been using it since in the early '80s. To answer your question, yes a boatload of fallers know of and have used this method of swinging a tree. Just like the sizwell or double & triple hinge techniques. They have been around for at least 20 years. I posted a video from this same strip using a variation of the double hinge. For dating purposes, we cut this unit in '08 when the economy was struggling. A point of caution - a guy better be prepared to lose the tree over backwards when attempting this operation. Also, you better be able to afford a new saw and/or bar. Many have been smashed over the years when attempting it. Thanks for watching.

[@murphy4trees]

@@hotsaws101 Thanks for the detailed reply. You're a good man!

[@jefferyblackburn5829]

What does it cost for a port job on a still ms461

[@hotsaws101]

Please shoot me an email [e-mail] Thanks.

[@rglogging1764]

HELLO,HOTSAWS101 YOU HAVE SOME AMAZING MOVES WITH THE CHAINSAW MYMAN,HATS OFF TO YOU!JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP IN MY LEARNING JUST ALITTLE MORE WITH THE PROPER WAY OF CUTTING TIMBER.PLEASE SEND ME E-MAIL WOULD LIKE TO TALK WITH YOU ABIT,WHEN YOU HAVE TIME.THANKS AGIAN

[@somethinburnin]

Hey! A Sugi-Hara ultra light bar

[@KarlBunker]

Nice work. Too bad I have no idea what you did or how it worked.

[@CobyRupert]

Right. It’s like “I make a wedge cut and some angled slash cuts on the side of the tree that in tension (away from the lean) near the wedge, then I do a back cut on the side in compression (lean side), and tree then falls away from the side it’s leaning towards.....as you can see.” No! We can’t see!

[@matthewhoney2132]

Could you make a video like this on a tree that's not in a bad spot so you can slow down and explain the it . Kind of like a how to.

[@hotsaws101]

Matthew hi. This operation here is one of the easiest to "get it wrong" that I know of. The chances of loosing the tree over backward is very great. The chance of the tree sitting down on your bar and walking the saw around to the front and flattening it is good. At ~ 3:30 this tree set on my bar - tight. This maneuver is explained pretty good, both in the description and in the video. If it is not making since to you then I might suggest not being around anything of value and being prepared to buy a new saw if attempted. Thanks for watching.

[@matthewhoney2132]

hotsaws101 thanks for the reply. I didn't think to check the description. I thought that is what you had done but I just wanted to make sure.

[@hlyautey]

You must have magical powers if you can make a tree fall uphill on its own.

[@44musher]

Not bad for your first time!

[@BenKickert]

This is witchcraft.

[@hotsaws101]

Ben hi. I always thought it was WoodCraft, lol. Thanks for watching.

[@HumInTheDrum]

He didnt say timber

[@kleffner123456]

He did in Dutch.

[@erickdesart4246]

👎

[@amarelo429]

4 initials cutting ? your bad axermen.

[@natoshaward7588]

Lol.... Too scared to pound in wedges ehh?? You'll get there...that would be a 0 on your certification btw...no dutchy on job sites..

[@scottw.2450]

Nicely done!

[@jonowens3841]

Skills

[@hotsaws101]

@whitnerw "Ultra Soft Dutchman"