Mr. Billow's Insane-O Ported ms461

Here we have the latest Stihl 461 out of the shop, zip kitted with the insane-o version port job. Steve wanted an animal of a 461 so we built him just that. This saw absolutely barks! It is sporting an unlimited ignition coil so we won't hear any missing due to the spark cutting out.
The chain is an Oregon full comp, square chisel with the stops set for Redwoods so I was a little skeptical taking on this mini, inland, residual fir tree. It has enough low end torque to pull the chatter (rakers/riders/stops a fuzz low) out of the chain in hard fir. I was well pleased with the out come of the "custom saw modifications".
This saw was a pleasure to use and I am thankful for the allowance of the first test drive for sure.
I'm currently available for port work. Shoot me an email if you need a hand or are interested in trying something new.
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Thanks for watching!

[@stoolie10]

I think you are a " tree surgeon". I like how safe & accurate you are. Always a fun to watch a true professional.

[@no.step.on.snek.2423]

I just love hearing this dude talk.

[@endlesskillez6253]

That saw cuts through a 3ft tree faster then a home owner saw can cut kindling 😂

[@eriksforestryvision8751]

Another great example of your skill and you stay humble. Only way to be right there. Also being that it has a screen on there, it sure does bark!!! Ported 46 series are just nasty:)

[@oscarhughes4610]

That's like heaven to my ears, I'd love to learn from u

[@tcongo4204]

One minute into this video and I knew two things for sure...This man knows how to build a saw and he knows how to put some wood on the ground..Nothing like experience..Remind me of watching my old man fall trees...He was a faller up here in the PNW for twenty + yrs..Good job sir and a good day to you too...

[@mwilliamshs]

Tcongo 420 he's done no cutting and the saw hasn't even started at the 1:00 mark. How'd you know all that?

[@Deontjie]

I was a bit disappointed that he did not flatten the sharp up-stands on the exposed stump.

[@qqq7a]

that saw rocks! sounds GREAT!!

[@oscarhughes5089]

I wish i still had the 034 Al ferria done for me i learned alot from him on porting and a popup piston lol great video brother

[@JesseCase]

That single wedge is what done it all! If it hadn't been put there that tree should have never came down! lol!

[@tree_monkey3120xp]

nice job on the saw and dirt napping the tree brother stay safe Jack

[@metlmuncher]

That thing sounds outstanding. Way to make it rip. Nice cut too.

[@tysondaniels6001]

Great 👍🏾 work sir and nice skill, I have a 461 as well and ported it witch sounds just like you’re saw, but it’s darn loud I tell ya, I do huge spruce,cedar hemlock etc. In my neck of the woods 👍🏾 Thanks for sharing sir ✊🏾

[@justinweaver8787]

Love the way u built this aws ur on point with this 1 definitely!!

[@GoodDayFarm]

Awesome saw, awesome felling! Be safe, take care!

[@maineman11]

Looked like a perfect notch and cut to me.

[@prestonmadplume7665]

Pretty cool and love to watch your videos.

[@certifiedhoarder]

Note the indicator wedge he set in the kerf loosely at 4:25 The wedge tipping down tells him the kerf is opening and tree is going the right direction, without looking up. Had the wedge risen, hed have noticed the tree was sitting back down and closing the kerf. So hed stop sawing and knock that wedge in before getting pinched.

[@BobbyTucker]

This saw just chews right through the tree like there's no tomorrow. lol Dang nice cut & drop.

[@44place85]

Best cutting 461 on you tube

[@woos3199]

nice work pard on both ends of the saw. you got that thing uh singin man, I love it!

[@EmpireTower]

Haven't heard the term "Pard" in a long time. I said it the other day to a guy 10 years older (60ish) and he was cornfussed lol.. I love my 461. If I can ever get it back from my son!!!!!!!!!

[@thearboristangler4715]

Perfect cut man well done i have a 461 with a dual port muffler but i dont rip like that

[@TheMarshy-wb7wu]

Nice job you know your shirt mate I'm picking up a 461 this week I'm going to be running a 28" cut on it mite have to do some mods😁

[@outinthewood3578]

Nice work Jack.

[@eldoradowoodcrafthobbies3888]

Hot saw, good job c u on the coast

[@harrybarker1408]

nice....sounds great!!!

[@kevinhoffman8214]

well that was slick as butter !

[@SkidderKev]

nice work on the saw sounds good.

[@nellsonstout7001]

Skidder Kev she's a Puddin' killer

[@gnslogging3635]

nice job...love ur vids bro

[@jirihavelka4105]

super video,jako vždy.

[@Joelontugs]

Captain insaneo shows no mercy!

[@JimmyHagar]

I cuttwood year round just because I love to do it. And I have to admit you're probably one of the most talented people I've seen dropping tree

[@lewiemcneely9143]

Sounds like my old Super 45 back in it's day. Ran a Farm Boss that had been tweaked and it was amazing too. Good saw.

[@hotsaws101]

My 1st saw was an 045. I don't remember it sounding anything like my Insane-O-ized 064, or any of the 461s equally done. It was in stock trim though and I'm about 66% deaf these days.......... The "tuned" pipes on the 056 Mags sounded good from what I remember. Thanks for watching.

[@lewiemcneely9143]

hotsaws101 My old Super sounded like a 250 Yamaha idling. But that was with good gas which we ain't seen in YEARS! Tru Fuel or no, it's not the same. I really liked the Pro-81's too. Screamers!

[@rbtree]

@@hotsaws101 Yup. My first saw was an 045 Super... circa 1978.... scored a 956 Mag 2, the biggest and baddest of that series. for 4200, till some methhead walked off with it..and most of my pro camera gear.

[@danielsmith2470]

Looks sharp to me lol. Good to see some new videos. I always enjoy them.

[@tnoel374]

Good cut and drop

[@AlexSwan]

Geee Whiz! I think I have decided on what saw to get. wooohoo

[@istihlonlyusestihl3029]

You are working that saw my boy. I'm trying to learn everything I can about felling. I'm new.

[@jacklowe3788]

Right On!

[@stevebillow395]

I can't wait to get to work with that beast

[@Jonthelogger]

Stevey! Good luck with the saw. Make a vid if you can I wanna see that bad boy in some hardwood

[@stevebillow395]

That I will do definitely... she's going o the log show in Boonville New York next weekend. Tons of guy there want to see it in person.

[@fuddrucker74]

+steve billow Boonville!! man, we used to go up there every year. I miss that town and the field days. have a blast, man. I'd surely like to have seen this saw in person.

[@stevebillow395]

+fuddrucker74 yea bud it will be my 1st time going. iv got a few good buddies he that live around there and I'm gonna slay there timber with thus beast. il get some footage of it in hardwood

[@fuddrucker74]

+steve billow that's great, I'd love to see what it does in some hard stuff. we have some friends a couple of miles out of town. I miss the competition, the food, the people, the town and area. just a great couple, of few days. our friends used to win the competitions there. it's cool to see the top competitors run machinery and the top guys skills. hot saw is cool to see too.

[@HuskyNut78]

Thanks Lomby 4277 I didn't go down far enough. Do you have a number for Jack? I may have a Husky for him to tweak on.

[@THEBIGKUSH420]

Chippy Dusty Kerf - shouldd be Sip Chain , That 461 is BADASS !

[@javanbirdbluerusselling5285]

Nice!!!👍👍👍

[@parkermcmaster8951]

nice saw

[@kristenwalters3760]

Nice job as always Jack. You do top-handles??

[@johnkomosa4089]

If you were just a saw builder, that would be great, if just a faller, great, but to be both is outstanding. The Germans comments, I wanted to say no ear muffs because he wants to hear the German Tanks coming but truth is probably he wants to hear his work. Alot of times after tuning a carb you want to hear it raw, then put your muffs on later. Great work fellas, I love to read the comments also. I have a small 025 and a 009 limbing saw, I love them, I fix saws, get them running good and move them on and look for another to fix, mostly firewood saws or house clearing building sight. You Pros are amazing, so fun to watch. Thank You!

[@hotsaws101]

John hi. I use the foam roll up type while felling "out in the wood". I can hear what I need to with either the muffs (saw testing some of the time) or foamies. I don't start a saw without some sort of ear protection. I think that hearing the tanks coming would be prudent - hahaha. Thanks for watching my small offerings here.

[@ShaneHerrick]

I like it.

[@Lomby4277]

Man, you got that saw rippin. If mine runs anything like that when your done with it I'll be more than happy. Great work Jack. By the way. I took your advice on the mix oil. I tore my 460 apart and could not believe the carbon build-up in that. 16 months of nothing but the XP oil, so you can probably imagine. Keep up the great work, and videos. Thanks.

[@smithtradfallning]

Would you mind sharing the mix oil advice? Sounds like it is thumbs down on the XP oil?

[@Lomby4277]

Sent my 461 to Jack a few weeks ago to have the Insano-port done on it. Saw only has 10 to 12 tanks of fuel through it, and Jack sent me pics of the jug and piston. So much carbon build-up that he couldn't even get a decent squish test reading. He knew right away what type of mix I was using, before I even told him. Said he has had terrible luck with it. He recommended Motul 800 2T Roadrace mix, or Maxima Formula K2. He said the Stihl full synthetic is decent oil too.

[@smithtradfallning]

Good to know thanks.

[@boomfcknchainsaw]

any advice as to how I can get a hold of jack. or how to get a saw done by him? I have a 460 in need of a top end. and this is exactly what I am looking for

[@Lomby4277]

His email is [e-mail]

[@ZippoVarga]

What's your take on dual port conversions with your Insane-O port job? God Bless! Zip~

[@hotsaws101]

Please see Mr Billow's comment on Mr Billow's Insane-O 461. Thanks.

[@johnnybarbar]

Grind the poll on that axe!

[@behindtheblackstump2247]

Good spotting I hate a mushroom poll.

[@FishFind3000]

Yea a nice chamfer would do it good. It would be safer too cuz you can send metal splinters out and get hit by one.

[@alexandersupertramp7353]

I love your video! But you sound like Dan Akroyd, in Caddyshack 2!

[@groenduif]

This 461 is a real demon..wow...wow...with that really sharp chain it eats up wood worse than a lion on a zebra....good lord it`s a beast. Will this crazy conversion not terribly reduce the saw engine life...?

[@hotsaws101]

Panthera Leo hi. Not in my experience. But, I use some of the best mix oil on the planet, run high octane fuel, maintain the air cleaners relentlessly, and have the needles adjusted properly. I also have my chains cutting well - which is what keeps the engine rpms in check. Thanks for watching.

[@littleshoponthehill9762]

That is for sure an insane saw. wow.

[@barthchris1]

Damn! That is one bad ass saw!! Sure beats my 10" Ryobi 18V!! Actually, I need to replace the cylinder in my MS250, didnt take out the carb limiter after opening up the muffler. I think it was running too lean. But yeah, stuck with the Ryobi at the moment:(

[@christopherknee5756]

I wanna put an engine like that in my RC plane! Any idea what power its producing?

[@hotsaws101]

Christopher hi. Maybe around 7, 7.5 depending. Thanks for watching.

[@grin64]

I like

[@jamiebuchanan7272]

I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle kzbin.infoUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.

[@hotsaws101]

Nice!

[@KimballCody]

do you like the maxflo filters?

[@hotsaws101]

There is no comparison between the hole shot (max flow) and the stock set up. Especially in fine dust like on burnt timber.

[@hotsaws101]

They work exponentially better than their stock counter part until, that is, the foam element gets a perforation. That can be fixed as well. Thanks.

[@murphy4trees]

Jack, it's been a while. I hope you are well.. got a question for you from one of the forums... Does a thick hinge slow the fall down? And if it does, do you think thick hinges are used to prevent breakage in timber? my eml is murphy4trees at america online etc.. would love to stay in touch.

[@hillbilly4christ638]

Looks like a miner's axe. Normal weight felling head with a stout handle. How did you mushroom the poll?

[@hotsaws101]

Eric hi. This axe head is a 4lb Stoax from in the mid '90s. So it's been around a bit. Mostly plastic wedges, but used driving metal wedges & even a few drifts while helping out my dad working on his Cat. Thanks for watching.

[@anthonyedwards4423]

Wow. That’s one of those styrofoam trees from California. That saw thinks so anyhow.

[@matthewhoney2132]

Steveeee

[@edmatalone4271]

Where did you get the belt that holds a maul ?

[@hotsaws101]

Ed hi. Army surplus store. Your local one would a good place to start. Thanks for watching.

[@calebwillhelm2635]

Can you please explain why the spark would miss if it had stock coil?

[@hotsaws101]

Caleb hi. The limited coils have an interrupted signal once they reach a certain, predetermined rpm level. Then, through the electronics, the signal is intermittent so that it only "hits" on, and this is only an example, every 2 out of 3 times the piston passes through tdc. The result is an engine that has a miss at high idle but it is from an engine cycle that doesn't get a spark signal to the plug, not from a jetting "miss" as it were. Thanks for watching.

[@calebwillhelm2635]

hotsaws101 what rpms is the saw in the video running at? And man thanks so much for taking the time to respond. You are awesome for that. I'm replacing the piston in my Ported 046. Damn meteor didnt even make it passed break in smh

[@hotsaws101]

@@calebwillhelm2635 - It depends on the state of tune. Part of that will be the elevation at which the operation is happening as well. They usually run between 12 & 13K. Although, my 281 will spin ~ 13.5K while still with a pretty good miss at high idle sporting a 32" at the coast. Out of all the am component options, Meteor has the best cylinder assemblies that know of. Also, one must consider that the oem 461 & 661 cylinders are made in Italy. It might not be the piston. Thanks for watching.

[@crazyfarmer2564]

I have a 046 I bought new in 2001 and had to put a new top end on it and in 2015 I bought a 461 and its stock but I would like to turn it up.

[@r.c.gilligan2814]

just out of curiosity if you had to get rid of all your saws and keep only one what one would it be.

[@hotsaws101]

Probably my 064. It has more power than the little saws, weighs a little less than the bigger saws, and doesn't vibrate to bad for a rubber mounted machine. And, there is the option of spooning in an 066 top end...... You did not mention where, what kind, and how big the trees are - of which all are a factor when considering the question. Thanks for watching.

[@r.c.gilligan2814]

hotsaws101 thanks for the reply, I know that it's a silly question. Just curious. By the way love all your vids.

[@chrisjohnson1738]

hotsaws101. can you build my saw

[@hotsaws101]

@leroy bailey hi. Awesome for you. Wanna sell it.... Thanks for watching and hope your New Years is good.

[@bennorman106]

@leroy bailey do you still have the new 064?

[@ironmulesmc786]

not a fan of the stihls but could like running this one .only for a bit.!

[@hotsaws101]

If you had the opportunity to operate one of these, a convert might be in the making..... Pretty sure you would like running this one for an extended period of time, they bark! Thanks for watching.

[@boiles1987]

Your video are so good what’s the code for that’s bar please I run a ms461

[@hotsaws101]

Bob hi. I run the lw bar almost exclusively. Any decent saw shop will have them hanging on the wall. Thanks for watching.

[@roadking8337]

how do you like the gas and oil caps they have now.

[@hotsaws101]

Christopher Kapp 👎

[@andrewwatkins2886]

Aaah Jack. Watching you fall is like music to my eyes. And that gorgeous 461. Without a doubt my favourite saw, though after a brief chat with you I went and scored an old 064, which was re- built by an old expert in Heyfield Vic Australia. I said to him, " no rush on the saw mate " Anyway, 2 years later he presents me with this monster saw. Probably superfluous to my firewood needs, but who cares, I'm in heaven. I had to watch your video after enduring the horror of watching a bloke dropping a much smaller fir, while training his son on the do's and don'ts. He had shorts and thongs on, or flip flops as I think they're called in the US. It took him a solid 16 minutes to scarf and back cut, then almost kill himself. I had to watch you Jack to regain my equilibrium😜😂 Keep up the great work mate💪😎 PS I would feel privileged to use Mr Billows saw.

[@hotsaws101]

Thank you, and for expounding.

[@gregorsteinke5322]

Hey Mr. Hotsaw, I love your vids and I watch them every day. I worked 9 years as a logger in Germany but every day with ear protection. A Motorsaw is very noisy, the ported ones louder more I think. In your vids I cant see you use some ear protectors, whats the reason with it? Pls ceep on with your Vids and thx for all the good moments with your saws on gods green earth budy. Thumps up from Germany

[@trashman1694]

Can't hear the wood crack as soon with ear protection... but yup should use ear protection and take it off right before the crack what I've learned. I live in America and my relatives are German and Norwegian

[@hotsaws101]

Gregor hi. I use the foam roll up type that fit in the ear canal. They are hard to see. NRR is ~ 30 decibels - which allows a guy to still hear some of the ambient noises. Also, at the 30 +/- of noise reduction, a guy will still suffer some hearing loss. Thanks for watching.

[@hhoward14]

Only one bar nut! did I see that right?Always enjoy your videos though...Best regards from Scotland.

[@hotsaws101]

I did notice that, at the time. In an effort not to scuff up the paint on the clutch cover, I did not get the front bar nut quite tight enough and it "left the building". Things like this happen if you cut long enough......

[@hhoward14]

You still did the job right though...Very best regards again.

[@MrJoeyplatinum]

You only need 1 bar nut......it has 2 in case you want to sell one on ebay.

[@Smokey66s]

hhoward14, Jack can run a saw with one nut better than most can with two!

[@hhoward14]

@@Smokey66s I'm sure he can...

[@GM-tt9lk]

How much for a build like this?

[@sloanafields9045]

I'm not sure

[@sloanafields9045]

Thank you

[@semco72057]

He put that tree where he wanted it to fall, and I wonder how many can do that?

[@johns3106]

@Sidney Mathious Anyone who makes their living running a saw can easily drop a tree like this.

[@HuskyNut78]

Lomby 4277 can you elaborate on the mix oil you speak of?

[@Lomby4277]

I replied to my original comment.

[@HuskyNut78]

Hey hotsaws101 Jack do you like the 390, 7900, or the Stihl 461 for Power? Thanks

[@browndawg5872]

hey, I got one you can perform your magic on.

[@jimmarshallman6300]

NOTHING like a good hot 2 stroke ..... EVERYONE should ride a hot 2 stroke motorcycle before they die! =8^| >8^)

[@BobbyTucker]

I had a 500 and a 750 Kawasaki triple that I built into dragbikes, you're right about two strokers. Now they're doing the same with multi-cylinder 4 strokers.

[@joseorozco1345]

I have a saw that I’d like ported the hell out! Could you do it?

[@hotsaws101]

Jose hi. If your asking if I am capable, the answer is yes. Thanks for watching.

[@joseorozco1345]

@@hotsaws101 well I know you’re a real good faller and are good at working on saws and I was wondering how much you charge to make a hot rod out of my 461

[@jeremygregory9501]

taters puddin is Gona spank that Chinese built saw! Lol good video bud..

[@nellsonstout7001]

Jeremy Gregory we'll just find out today

[@fordguy2001]

moron

[@jimhammond2396]

OSHA would love. You no c chaps

[@hotsaws101]

Independent contractor. Not required. BTW, there are chaps that reside under the pant. Impossible to see... Thanks for watching.

[@nexogaming5292]

Please be careful and dont forget to cut of the spikes on the stump so nobody falls on them and hurts themself

[@iesous444]

Lol yes safety first guys!

[@jethrobeelar1472]

a stove pipe fur tree

[@adamcollins9430]

Do you take anybody saw for a job.

[@hotsaws101]

Hello. There is an email address in the description. Please contact me through it. Thanks for watching.

[@TheHonestPeanut]

So obviously dudes good, I mean no disrespect BUT... The Red Green show brought me here 😂

[@skov9700]

poor tree

[@skeets6060]

Dat bytch do bark !!!

[@ashleylingle5343]

Weak..