EV Charging 101: *Everything* You Need To Know (Australia)

[@dyemanoz]

Thanks for another informative and comprehensive video! I live in SE QLD and am at home most days and was able to do a very cheap but effective setup for a Tesla M3. We have a single phase grid connection, and about as large a solar system on the roof as Energex rules will allow - 10 kW inverter (5kW export limit) now upgraded to 16kW panels and home battery (Solaredge - Energex rules don't allow AC-coupled battery for that configuration). Initially I just charged the car from an 8 amp socket in the carport - worked fine but not exactly fast. Turned out we had a spare 32 amp dedicated circuit in the switchboard (from a now-defunct AC that ran out of gas). Got an electrician to run that circuit to the carport and install a 32 amp single phase socket. Then purchased a 32 amp single phase tail for the Tesla mobile charger from EVSE, allowing charging the car at 7 kW. Initially just tried to make sure it was sunny when plugging the car in, but then Charge HQ came along and did its magic - dynamically adjusting the charging rate to match our excess solar - it talks to the SolarEdge inverter to determine how much excess solar is available, and to the car to adjust the charge amps accordingly. EVSE also has a Tesla portable charger tail that is physically a standard three-phase 32 amp plug but electrically single phase. This enables charging M3 or MY from 3-phase 32 amp sockets that are not uncommon in caravan parks and showgrounds around the country (kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn61g4abiddlj7c&ab_channel=LudicrousFeed)

[@SolarQuotes]

THanks for the kind words. Yes ChargeHQ is great. Initially this video had a whole section on 3-phase socket adaptors - but I cut it out as I thought it was too much info to take in!

[@someshjagga3338]

What a wonderful video this is. Everything explained so clearly. Thanks Finn for putting in the effort, I can appreciate how much time would have been spent in planning of delivering such complex info in a fun, crisp way.

[@gordonspond]

Except for the part where you can't find a single charger, or the charging will take 3 hours and you need to be somewhere in 30 minutes, or the part where they tell you not to speed-charge because it'll ruin your expensive battery... or the thing catching ion fire in your garage and burning your house down. You can keep this EV stuff and shove it. 35% depreciation and prices dropping so fast you owe more than the resale value... Maybe you've got 100 grand to burn... I don't.

[@johndawson3368]

Most useful video (by far) I have found on EV charging options in Australia. Thank you so much for posting.

[@SmartEnergyLab]

Finn, congrats on the best, most comprehensive yet easy to understand explainer video on EV charging. I even learnt some new tricks (I’m gonna buy a Type 1 to Type 2 adapter cable). PS just bought a Model 3 in same midnight silver as yours 😂

[@SolarQuotes]

Thanks Glen!

[@razbakar7889]

Love the vid! Truly 'EVERYTHING' you need to know about EV charging indeed!! Thank you for sharing this information. Appreciate the simple language, and explanations to the charging types, levels, and cable conventions. Great video!!

[@open_world_media]

As a near future EV owner, this video just saved me hundreds of dollars I was about to spend on various adapters and cables that I will probably never use! 🥂

[@SolarQuotes]

That's why we made it! When I got my EV 4 years ago, I didn't have a clue about connectors and cables, and I'm an Electrical Engineer...😬

[@robertm1459]

Thankyou Finn, really concise & easy to understand. Enjoyed graphics & animations, too. ⚡🚗⚡

[@buggiesandboars]

Great video. You could have mentioned that some EVs have the ability to supply power to your house like a Tesla power wall, making EV cars even more appealing. When I eventually get an ev, I'll be making sure it has the ability to act like a power wall, as I rarely travel more than 50 to 100km a day, leaving surplus power to run our house at night.

[@SolarQuotes]

Great point! We originally planned to have V2G as the final section. But the section was so long we made it a standalone video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn6lomiBhbSFfc0

[@ryanjtrudel]

Love the video. I am currently working on a business that will hopefully help thousands of Canadians by making residential solar options even more accessible. I hope to achieve this by enabling home owners with the ability to access existing equity in there homes to acquire the funds to make these upgrades while providing education to the options and incentives available. I have found your channel extremely informative, helpful and inspiring for this business and my goal of assisting fellow Canadians with saving hundreds of dollars each month by generating their own self-sustaining energy to power, heat and cool their homes and even power their transportation. Keep up the great videos!

[@ElectricCarAustralia]

Thanks for an easy to understand video on charging for general community. We really love using a smart solar EV charger (evse) so we're only using solar. Currently the Fronius Wattpilot go is do a fantastic at this. 🔋☀️⚡

[@SolarQuotes]

Thank you. The Fronius Wattpilot is a fantastic charger if you have a Fronius inverter. It has OCPP too so it’s future proof 🎉.

[@davidlowton3423]

@@SolarQuotes Would be great to have you guys do some review videos on different EV Chargers 🤔

[@SolarQuotes]

@@davidlowton3423 we are planning to do this. Currently, my favourite is Delta or Wallbox, with Fronius as the obvious choice if you have a Fronius inverter.

[@rogerpearson9081]

Lots of good Info thanks Finn. Foregoing the solar FIT is only really a minor consideration when you look at the piddling amount you get for it. I only get 5c a kWh so it would be a no brainer to save the $12/100 I spend on my car ( 7l/100 @ $1.70litre) and sacrifice the $2.50 FIT for 50kW of electricity which would be over 200ks of range. Huge saving win for the EV even if it uses some grid electricity. Looking forward to EV ownership one day.

[@SolarQuotes]

Totally agree - much more valuable to put in the car then export to the grid for most people.

[@Shmaybe]

Building a home at the moment and waiting for the roof to go on so I can get get some quotes from solar quotes in Western Australia. I'm really wanting to plan for the future as I don't have an electric vehicle yet. Nice to get some professional thoughts on the matter. Thanks for the all the work, learnt a lot.

[@Navigator-apex]

If you live in a sunny location like WA or QLD the solar will probably pay off very quickly and only if you are charging during the day (when the sun is shining) Wind power is another one but just like solar they are very unreliable the same as the EV chargers on the street. Personally I enjoy my diesel 4wd with 1500 Km range. EVs need another 10 years to have better battery technology, at the moment they are very heavy and inefficient.

[@Shmaybe]

@@Navigator-apex I agree with you on all points. I'm somewhat betting that within the next 5 years we will have huge energy costs increases. I'm hoping to reduce my cost via solar and 1 EV.

[@oggyoggy1299]

@@Navigator-apex Inefficient? At 20-25% of the cost of diesel per kilometre.

[@standupmoto]

Very nice video, also good to see a fellow South Aussie.

[@NovoAnts]

Excellent video. It can be quite confusing for someone about to get an EV. I am looking at getting the Tesla M3 and as they don’t include the mobile charger now I’ll be getting that as I rent. Also now after watching your video I might grab a Level 2 charger and throw that in the car. Well done and thanks for making this video.

[@AzizBamyani]

Super useful information Mate. Much appreciated 😊

[@asjeot]

That clears up a lot for me. Thanks for the great content

[@alanfurlong-drummer4419]

A brilliant video thank you.

[@oosh82]

Very good overview.. thanks.

[@alisterwood8440]

That was an excellent video. Thank you very much 👍

[@mspalmboy]

A very helpful video Finn. At 12.25 mins you show the set-up for 3-phase charging using a third party 20-32 amp tail with a Tesla trickle charger - and on your website you say "Pro-tip: If you have a recent Tesla and are lucky enough to have a 3-phase socket in your garage, you can buy third party tails that can charge at 4.8 to 7kW (20 to 32A) using your mobile connector". I've searched but can't find one of these third party 20-32 amp tails - any suggestions regarding where to look are appreciated please. EVSE say they only sell them as a complete until (including the trickel charger) - but I only need the tail. Thanks in advance mate.

[@willc2312]

this have been the msot helpful video i have seen yet. thank you

[@michaelfink64]

Great explanations, Finn. A minor correction: the Model 3 charges at up to 250 kW. I recently charged my Model 3 from 22% at a Tesla supercharger and (briefly) got a peak rate of 245 kW.

[@SolarQuotes]

Wow - that's impressive! You must have the long-range/performance? The standard range Model 3 is a little slower.

[@michaelfink64]

@@SolarQuotes Hi Finn, yes, I have a Performance Model 3 (took delivery in Dec 2019). Just completed a month long tour of your fair state and had a ball. Only snag was that the Tesla destination charger at our accommodation on Kangaroo Island had been disconnected the week before (the electrical set up of the property was clearly not up to the task and the charger was tripping the breaker for the whole house). Only found out after we tried to charge without success. We had to hire an ICE vehicle for a couple of days on KI. Otherwise, we did pretty well and even went to Flinders Ranges.

[@OldFliersGroup]

For the record, in WA, Synergy's EV off-peak rate is 19.0698c/kWh. They have withdrawn offer to new sign-ups.

[@grantericson9245]

Hi, Can you tell me why you can't use an extension cord for a level one charge (charging cable supplied with car.) we are going where there is only a 240 volt 10amp home socket inside our accommodation. Many thanks :)

[@SolarQuotes]

That is a great question! I've asked our in-house electrician for a definitive answer and will get back to you soon.

[@SolarQuotes]

And here is your comprehensive answer: support.solarquotes.com.au/hc/en-us/articles/6375984912015

[@xefour]

I purchased an industrial quality 10m and 20m extension lead. I rarely use it, however in a pinch I have used both of them and still get the full 2kW from the Tesla mobile connector. Just make sure the cable is stretched out straight (not bunched up). It will work fine.

[@dyemanoz]

I have done exactly this. I keep a regular (8 amp) extension cord (25 or 30 metres I think) in the car for "emergencies" when travelling. An extension cord may be needed getting power from an 8 amp socket to the Tesla mobile charger in an emergency. I have used it once (at a motel when I didn't have enough charge to get to the nearest public charger) to get power to the car from the motel room via the Tesla mobile connector for a short emergency top up. Just need to make sure the extension cord is fully uncoiled to avoid induction-related issues and keep an "eye" on the plugs to make sure they don't get too hot from any poor connection.

[@VitalStatistics-t7t]

Great video Finn. Except for the 'twenty yards'. Are they front yards or back yards? My backyard is way larger than my front yard... I'm confused. And Australian... and metric...

[@jeffwilliams5671]

Great video - thank you! Only question I had is, if charging overnight, how can you program the charging so the car is charged from the grid and the battery powers the house?

[@peterburdett8131]

Great charging tips. I have a Tesla Model 3 & am getting away with a level 1 charger with 15 Amp adapter but the biggest issue is unreliable power from 10 Kw of solar panels. Yep when the suns out I get 10.9 Kw generation but I would say 50% of the time there’s not enough generation to run a pool pump, 6 Kw Air conditioner & charge the car. I’m with OVO for energy so charge @ 8 c/kw between 00:00 & 06:00 which works OK on less the battery is below 50%. I’m installing a Tesla L2 Charger soon & couldn’t believe the price difference between L2 chargers. Considering there’s a simple PCB inside think the industry is ripping off unsuspecting customers who don’t know what they are buying. Tesla charger $750 $ others up to $3K what’s the difference? Could you do a video on what’s the difference in chargers & why the price difference

[@dazrichie897]

Great video, well communicated.

[@PeterPanQuails]

Given these Level 2 charging cable can be quite expensive, I wonder if someone can simply nab it away while you leave the car unattended when charging.

[@alexyang9046]

So detailed and comprehensive, thanks a lot. One question please Is the type 2 charger Chargerfox supplied AC or DC?

[@forzer456]

Could you cover the difference between fixed and variable energy rates. Is there really a difference and maybe you could use fixed rate for some of your examples.

[@tobypotter2160]

Thank goodness for standardised charging plugs! Does the Tesla come with Type 2 or CCS?

[@dodelphi]

Great explanation. EV's are the future, but dear lord how painful is the journey to be with the various L1/2/3 chargers, cables, adapters and public charging station constraints/availablity with the typical technical problems etc. Does my head in. I'll be delaying as much as possible until all the fuss is sorted.

[@GonzaloBrionesPerezDeLaBlanca]

Amazing. Thank you very much, very very interesting. Just wondering what's your opinion on Fast portable charger single phase (7kW 32A) plug type 3 pin, for my MG4 Excite 51? are they reliable?, Would I have to install a special socket?

[@mews56]

Does it come with a tap & pay charging meter ? so the garage can be franchised rented out for business!? with all visitors to just tap & pay !! when using the ev charging meter with a vending machines or membership gyms & car share programs

[@evandenning9983]

Hi Finn, thank you so much for this excellent video. I recently purchased a GWM Ora EV and the same looking Type 1 to Type 2 adapter cable that you used at the Port Elliot Type 1 charging station. When I try and charge at this station it looks like it is trying to charge and then it cuts out after 2-3 seconds. Do you think it is my car. I can see on the web site that Tesla’s and a Nissan Leaf have been able to charge in recent times. Many thanks Evan

[@peterburdett8131]

Awesome review. I recently bought a Tesla M3LR & am surviving happily with the L1 charger supplied with the ca r with15 Amp socket already installed in my garage.( Yep just got in time ) I only charge from my 10 Kw solar using Charge HQ. My biggest concern is the cost of smart meters, L2 chargers & cables as I can drive a long way for a cable that might give me free charging. Also I can’t go past the Tesla wall charger @ $750 when most others are $1K and above and again I can drive a long way on the extra cost of after market chargers. Any thoughts on the Tesla wall charger?

[@martinhollett3160]

I’m in QLD and have 10kW solar and 3 phase 16amp. Using the Tesla Gen 3 wall connector with ChargeHQ and couldn’t be happier. On sunny days I’m able to push over 7 kW just using excess solar. If I need a quick charge I’ve got the full 11kW available from the grid.

[@1Psychlone]

I have 10kw of panels and 15kw of batteries. How would I charge the ev at night without consuming the battery?

[@SolarQuotes]

Great question. At the moment this is hard to do. The Powerwall can be configured to let you only charge the car from a cheap grid tariff but other batteries need other methods. One tactic is to leave the charging as late as possible so the battery is as empty as possible. We plan to do a post on this. What battery do you have?

[@1Psychlone]

@@SolarQuotes I went with the Huawei mainly because of the ease of expanding in 5kw increments.

[@fotoamgamgfoto3695]

Hi I bought a simple Type 2 Mennekes plug to Scucko socket for my electric motorcycle which only has a computer power cable socket so 1kW AC needed. When the AC Type 2 stations has socket it fits in and works fine, but there are Type 2 EV charge stations with Type 2 cable instead of socket. In the cable end my Type 2 plug does not touch the pins, the plastic spacing is too long. Can I cot a centimeter from the plastic plug end just to fit both socket and cable Type 2 chargers?

[@chriswood841]

Awesome video mate. Thanks

[@johnrogers1423]

Given that 15 amp and 20 amp circuits use the same 2.5 mm cable they should cost the same amount to install. If using a Tesla Mobile Connector a 20 am tail would be needed.

[@KetuaAgain]

Is there any danger to use the charger when it is raining?

[@selgeaus]

We currently have 6kw solar panels on our roof. The problem is there is no more space to fit more panels..

[@ravingmad765]

Heavens, I didn't think I would make 5mins of this. Very well put together and held my attention. Thanks!

[@markshaker8567]

in WA we are now limited to 1.5Kw into the grid. So really charging your car is free. I think i am only paid 3c per Kw now (waiting on the bill) I have installed an additional 7 Kw with a 13.6Kw battery. New tarrifs here are 8c in the day, 50c from 3 to 9pm then 15c at night.

[@SolarQuotes]

Yes! For you, almost all the solar going into the car will be free energy! In my defence - I did qualify the statement with "if you would otherwise a feed-in tariff it's not free" 😀

[@archiedonley7383]

Thnx Finn. I am about to get a Tesla model 3 and I hear 2 conflicting things. Firstly it's recommended to keep plugged in overnight....but...the battery has an effective 2,000-cycle life. If I only drive 50kms per day I would use 1 cycle per day, but if I plugged it in every 5th or 6th day I would would extend the life of the battery by a factor of 5. What do you recommend?

[@SolarQuotes]

From Tesla: "There is no advantage to waiting until the Battery’s level is low before charging. In fact, the Battery performs best when charged regularly." Also you will be getting a LFP Model 3? In which case try to get it to 100% at least once per week. and never let it drop to 0%. If you plug it in most nights (or days if you are at home) this achieves these 2 aims.

[@xefour]

Does anyone know where to find providers that will offer to pay us to use electricity during surplus? Couldn’t find anything online.

[@SolarQuotes]

Amber Electric: www.amber.com.au/

[@SubieFun-kf9pn]

I can't imagine my 80 yo mother dragging the Type 2 cable out of the car to charge up halfway between Sydney and Melbourne. Let alone leaving a charging cable that can be stolen hanging out of the car and the charger. I'm also waiting for V2H/V2G to become a thing in QLD. I want to go electric, but it seems we're not there yet.

[@BrendanFitzgeraldqld]

Hi, Origin Energy told me it was illeagle to have a home charger unless I get an off Peak meter in Queensland. Is this true and why?

[@SolarQuotes]

Great Question. QLD has some uniquely stupid rules when it comes to EV chargers. If you want a hardwired EV charger that charges at more than 20A (4.6 kW) , yes you must get connected to an economy, or controlled, tariff and the charger must be connected to that meter. That means you'll have charging available for a minimum of 18 hours per day - and are unlikely to be able to charge in the evening peak (typically 4pm-10pm). I hear some people are asking their sparky to install a 32A socket, for a portable charger, which can charge at 7 kW - but a quick look at the rules show this is not allowed either! If you have 3-phase to your house, you can legitimately get around this restriction by simply buying a hard wired 3-phase car charger.

[@TheYoyoma3]

Thanks for the video. If I have 3 phased power, are you saying I can charge 3 phased with 10amp if I buy a special socket? Sorry I’m confused because do I need to install special socket for 3 phase if my home already has 3 phase power? Can you link any examples please!

[@SolarQuotes]

Good question. All regular power sockets in an Australian home are single-phase. Even if you have 3-phase power to your home - your sockets will only use one of those phases. So you can only get 10A, single phase from your current sockets. If you want 3-phase power on tap via a socket, you need to get an electrician to run a 3-phase cable to the location and then install a special 5-pin, 3-phase socket. You can then plug a 3-phase charger into that socket and charge your car at a theoretical maximum of 22 kW (will be dependent on car's AC charging speed).

[@TheYoyoma3]

@@SolarQuotes thanks!!

[@TheYoyoma3]

@@SolarQuotes sorry one more question because I was looking at the Tesla wall charger and it’s website says that it’s 11kwh charging only? So it’s actually faster to just pay for a special 3 phased socket instead?

[@martinhollett3160]

Model 3 & Y can only charge at 11kW AC max anyway. For 3 phase you can run each phase at 16amps to get the full 11kW throughput. Tesla Gen 3 wall connector can run with this config and be plumbed directly without needing to install a 3 phase socket.

[@chrisperera2818]

Doesn’t Nissan still use the Type 1 plug for the Leaf?

[@SolarQuotes]

Oops! The current Nissan Leaf uses Type 2 for AC charging, but still uses CHAdeMO for DC charging (not CCS). I've added a correction to the DC charging part of the video.

[@R1CK_54NCH3Z]

If you have DC coming in from your solar panels to the inverter, wouldn't it be better to pass through from the panels to the DC input of the car through a DC to DC converter instead of converting it to AC through the house inverter the cars AC to DC conversion, cutting on DC-AC then AC-DC conversion losses?

[@SolarQuotes]

In theory, yes - but a) the losses are less than 5%, and b) the power direct from the panels would often jump all over the place

[@R1CK_54NCH3Z]

@SolarQuotes I would have expected higher losses through inverting to AC and then rectifying back to DC over straight Dc to DC conversion and unless there are regular clouds or other obstructions of the panels you would get steady production of DC, and surely the DC to DC converter would cut out safely at a low voltage at the panel side.

[@Costikeke]

three phase charge speed??

[@SolarQuotes]

Three phase chargers can do up to 22kW AC. Most EVs can only charge at around 11kW AC.

[@nevmcc3884]

When can we top er up without the obligatory App?

[@SolarQuotes]

It sure is a pain downloading a different app for each network. Most Chargefox chargers allow credit card taps without an app now at least (when they are working!)

[@dann5515]

so how does DC cahrger fee work? Do they charge kW/hr or just one fees applies to all kwH speed no matter if it 50kwH/hr or 150kwH/hr?

[@SolarQuotes]

Typically, the higher the power output the higher the cost per kWh.

[@dann5515]

@@SolarQuotes thank for the reply. So if i go to 350kWH charger for example is costing 60c p/kwH and if your car only support max to 150 kWH or even if it max at 50kWH are they still cost 60c p/kwH?

[@ausguy4385]

If charging DC is possible why no home DC charger... why waste power converting to AC and then back...

[@TheFunkshwae]

Awesome vid cheers

[@SolarQuotes]

Thanks 👍

[@CamFromOz]

Getting paid to charge the car, a wholesale pricing retailer with what type of charger?

[@SolarQuotes]

You can use Amber and ChargeHQ and a compatible charger (or car as the car can also control charging). Compatibility list here: chargehq.net/kb/solar-data-support-register

[@user-Rocket-Fest]

where do I charge on the Gunbarrel or Gibb River?

[@richardlester5497]

EVs are not for everyone yet, but I think you’ll find that they do have electricity in most places. Even out there.

[@Neilhoh3]

Ignorance is bliss, still, in this day and age?

[@letsbehonest4221]

It's actually cheaper to drive an unleaded car to drive to and from work .lol.. Australia, it can cost anywhere from $0.30 - $0.60 per kWh to charge an electric vehicle (EV). This equates to around $11.50 - $23 to fully charge a small electric vehicle or about $22.50 - $45 to fully charge a larger long-distance electric vehicle

[@SolarQuotes]

With Petrol at $1.42 per litre (good luck finding that), it costs $0.12 to drive 1km in Australia. With grid electricity, $0.07 (more when fast charging on the road - but that's typically less than 5% of your charging). Charging with rooftop solar (for me that's 95% of charging) it costs $0.01 per km. Source: www.rewiringaustralia.org/report/castles-cars-technical-study

[@letsbehonest4221]

@SolarQuotes yer because you got the roof top charging system for free did you...and with rapidly rising energy/electric bills guess we can all blame YOU for that .

[@Skywolf76]

I have a first generation MG ZS EV, and Type 2 charging is limited by the car to 7kW/single phase. So it did not make sense for me to buy a 3-phase charging cable. Make sure you know your car's limits.

[@SolarQuotes]

I would argue that - for an extra few tens of dollars it's worth having a future-proof cable - your next car will probably be able to charge at faster than 7 kW AC...

[@Skywolf76]

@@SolarQuotes Fair enough. That said, my last car lasted 12 years. Who knows what the chargers in another decade look like. As long as you know what you're doing and why, I think you'll be good.

[@knowname7289]

Was thinking about this too,, and even looking at a Tesla 3 but,,, solar system price average 15000 plus EV 65000 which as AFAIK at this stage the car is landfill and worthless when batteries die due to the lack of recycling, that buys a lot of fuel for a car I already own for " free" ,and now for the " yeah but"

[@SolarQuotes]

Point 1: a 10 kW system is closer to $10,000 than $15,000, 6.6 kW is ~$6000. Even if you don't have solar - you can often take advantage of cheap 'super off -peak'. 2) If you can salary sacrifice, new EV finance rules make a $65,000 EV about the same cost with post-tax money as a $40,000 petrol car. 3) No EV batteries are going to landfill. They can recycle 95%+ of them now. 4) The latest EV batteries should last longer than the car.

[@ivanblakely903]

not sure the comparison between 7 km/kWhr and 10 l/100km for petrol is fair. my Outlander PHEV MY19 gets about 3km per kWhr when operating "pure EV". By comparison, a fuel consumption test for a tank full when car is working as a hybrid (ie battery drained from start to finish) returns about 7 litres/100km. At $2 per litre of fuel, that works out at 14c per km. The car only has the small battery given PHEV and we only charge via our solar. However, if I had to pay the 60c common price per kWhr at public charging then the cost would be 20c per km. So for us, petrol is cheaper than that, and looking for a cheaper low power charger is not worth the effort.

[@SolarQuotes]

Ivan - #1 your PHEV's electrical efficiency is absolutely awful. A modern EV will do better than double that efficiency. #2 The typical EV owner will almost never pay 60c per kWh except when they are driving more than 400 km in one day and they are forced to use a DC fast charger. The vast majority of charging is done at home.

[@ivanblakely903]

​@@SolarQuotes I replied to this, but seems it was deleted. Not a good look

[@NikanDragosysSerpenDra]

i want to buythe later tesla model, and my domesticc supply has 3 phase 480Volt/or 380 and 460 if my memory serves me right uioi gotta check but i have an insstalled 3 phace 480voltbundle waiting to be rolled out to my garage, and i often do doubling the voltage and using higher amps from 2 groupsso i get 16 or 32 i forgot, damnit anyway dual AC, at the maximum of allowable ampss because my mother has a unused ceramic oven that goes up to 1600degrees celsius and IT"S LARGE the plug has 5 holes 3 for 30hertz 50hertz and 75herts and (and either 20 - 50 or 100amps i dont know)(I SUPPOSE, dont know what in the netherlands the power output looks like but generally normal domestic allows for either single AC230Volts at 8 AMPSb fuses you can double this up btw this is 50 ~60hz and use a special connector for that still it's 2x single phase at8 amps (2x4amps.. the 3 phase is generally has 5 pinsn 3 for power and 1 ground ofcourse and i don't know what the 5th one is maybe it's DC for multi compatibility. (i'm not the best electrician anymore, or it's a regulator in DC that checks powerflow because the fusebox is so sci-fi looking and digital.. DC charges faster, that's good for a road trip... but what are my options here i dont use allot of power about 1500~3000wats or watts hours as you call it. I have what is called a second meter and fusebox that can do 380 and 460/480volts at 20amps? what do these installations do, how do install them. and i'm planing on night tarrif and polar power on the roof is going to be split between 2 other homes unless i pay for them. but i am not that rich, because these solar panels are like spacegrade, modern powerfull and on a dark cloudy dark even on a cubic meter itll do 40k % then regular solar panels, these arent blue these are entirely black with some black libnes..,... but i drive large armount through europe, sometime to the UK, do the have charging stations at rotterdam, or do i have to drive to drive to calais?

[@NikanDragosysSerpenDra]

btw i use windows, re there apps for windows, except IOS and Android I FUCKING HATE THEM.

[@Mrbuckaroonie..]

Yeah when a 4wd can get me 600kms towing my camper trailer and have charging capability in remote areas, I might consider it. I reckon Australia is 20 years away from this. Until then, I will be burning diesel. EV's might be Ok for city folk but they are useless in the country. My town in FNQ has one charger outside BCF. Also most people will need to charge at night using the grid. I have seen EV charging stations being powered by 60 kva diesel generators. Defeating the purpose. I am far from being sold on these city slicker Mum's cars.

[@garfieldisgod]

EV makers need to "adopt the "induction charging" method of charging vehicles ASAP. This technology ihas been around for decades and is a perfect fit for "convenient charging of EV's. Charging vehicles without having to connect anything; get out of the vehicle in snow and rain; would appeal to many Tesla customers. just imagine; pulling over a lighted pad; it dings when you are in position; you just hop out and the charger later texts you when the vehicle is ready. What is not to like???

[@SolarQuotes]

It would be very cool.

[@juneallan4903]

Oh so don't worry 😂🤣So plug it in and the power comes from where??how much fuel is used to cart the coal,or blades on wind turbine,or making of solar panels,and battery's that lose power and are thrown into the dump.

[@Viking7771]

With Tesla cars at least you do not need a smart charger. The car knows when it can accept electricity!

[@432wheels]

Do you recommend getting a “Karen” lock for charging cables?

[@ricdonato4328]

1:50 five times cheaper. Wrong, it is one fifth less expensive. Recall, times indicates more not less, and how can you calculate five times cheaper, impossible. Take any number, other than one, and times it by another number, your results are more than the number you started with. It is beyond me why educated folks say "X times cheaper", mathematically it is impossible to have a lesser number.

[@Pro1er]

Here in the US the ghetto thugs would make a fortune stealing those charging cables for the copper.

[@billwehner]

"promo sm"

[@georgiakerek7999]

Never... BS!

[@rustykilt]

Technology changing so fast, todays EV's will be obsolete in 5 years, and their resale value will freefall.

[@bob100079]

Then imagine what ICE will be like

[@CoroDan]

Why are charging providers not repairing chargers in a timely manner? Very embarrassing for City of Adelaide.

[@SolarQuotes]

agreed - I saw today that they are ripping out the unreliable Tritium fast chargers in Franklin St and they will be replaced with RAA ones - let's hope RAA can do a better job...

[@CoroDan]

@@SolarQuotes We are not alone. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ7Cq2Vtga-UbNEsi=5dxq5NAEUKvjDsUA

[@myvideos9811]

CHARGING YOUR EV. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER. LIKE THE BOTTLES OF PROPAINE AND CALOR IF YOU PURCHASH ONE BOTTLE AS A ONE OFF YOU THEN CAN EXCHANGE THAT BOTTLE FOR A FULL BOTTLE. SO IF THEY CAN MAKE ALL BATTERY,S UNIVERSAL YOU THEN CAN GO TO A GARAGE AND HAVE THAT ONE REPLACED WITH A FULLY CHARGE ONE. AT A COST OF COURSE. YES, NO?

[@richardlester5497]

There was a company that tried this called “Better Place” I think its timing was wrong. As a concept it makes a lot of sense.

[@harry130747]

Disinformation!!!!! UK Feed In Tariff for solar PV panels.. You get paid for what you generate whether or not you use it yourself. So, yes it's free motoring if you charge tour EV up from solar PV on sunny days, if you're on FIT payments.

[@thelonewolf666]

takes 48 hours to charge a small shitbox

[@trevorbayfield4731]

Yes but how much will the DIESEL BEAST TOW compared to the useless Tesla?????

[@SolarQuotes]

Good question Trevor - here's your answer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKfOZZmEratjopY

[@4snday]

I’ll stick to my petrol and diesel vehicles.

[@SolarQuotes]

you probably just wasted 21 minutes of your life then! 🤣

[@4snday]

@@SolarQuotes nope. It was interesting, but not for me. I have a business to run and if I’m spending half my time trying to find a charging station that works and then waiting how long to charge up, I’d be on the road more charging the car rather than out there earning a living. But that’s just me.

[@peterwarden7471]

you can sugarcoat any piece of crap

[@garretmitchell6733]

What a load of rubbish. How about you tell the truth. Everyone buying fuel pay road tax (fuel excise) unlike EV owners that are getting it for free, but wait till 2027 when YOU will have to pay then we will see the whinging

[@deplant5998]

This ridiculous complexity explains the poor uptake of EVs.

[@sebastianmessina31]

Amazing how you need a boot full of cables an adaptors to charge an EV that doesn’t have enough room to carry a spare tyre. The world has gone mad.😬🤪😬

[@trevorbayfield4731]

Add the cost of the overpriced EV and the cost of all the Solar Panels.... it will take you 20+ years to recoup your money.

[@ronniebuck2954]

The ONLY way to make Any of this BS GREEN is to PAINT IT GREEN

[@oneofakind5668]

No thanks, when they replace our utes with these EV i will go back to ridding my horse to town thanks.

[@SolarQuotes]

Enjoy ridding your horse. I don't think this channel is for you, friend!

[@oneofakind5668]

@@SolarQuotes Enjoy ya smart 15min cities, friend!!!

[@stevelai1348]

I have done alot of research and decided to buy a byd。 They are the biggest selller of ev。 Obviiusly there's a reason

[@CarNNNN]

i love how EV drivers are lugging around cables everywhere like absolute nintendo dorks from the 80s with there link cables

[@vk3dgn]

Solar charging is tricky when the electricity distributor won't let you have an inverter bigger than 5kW. Whilst it's cheaper (per 100km) to fill up with electricity rather than petrol, the additional cost of EV's and the extra charging infrastructure mean you have to drive enormous distances to economically justify an EV over petrol. I live about 300km outside Melbourne and will not be owning an EV due to lack of charging infrastructure and the long charge times. In Victoria roughly 70% of electricity generation comes from burning brown coal. I note too that S.A. and Tasmania import lots (up to 50%) of dirty power from Victoria (refer NEM Dashboard).

[@benjaminsong]

Very helpful and informative video, thank you!

[@JohnEnergy2012]

No dude... 3 Phase is not preferable... 7Kw onboard chargers requires single phase 32A. 11Kw requires 3x16A, If you install 3Phase, your 7Kw capable EV only go at 3.6Kw speed. So a 22Kw (3x32A) will work as well.

[@troyh5955]

Thx Finn great info. I am still in concept phase ATM. I want to have a Tesla powerwall 3 on my future home build and also have a V2G connection for a future EV. My plan would be to have a master switch that can simulate a blackout to my powerwall so it functions off grid at all times. In addition as much solar on the roof as I can fit and literally use the V2G only when the powerwall gets low. Could you possibly put together a short video on how YOU would do this to maximise both the powerwall and EV lives"

[@SolarQuotes]

If/When the Powerwall 3 is released we'll see what's possible. The Powerwall 2 has a 'go off grid' button already. V2G integration will be the tricky bit.

[@Sami-Nasr]

Those Aussies are lucky they get free charging and all that, in Europe they only thing you might get free is a kick in the ass

[@SolarQuotes]

There is a reason we are called 'The Lucky Country' :-)

[@deplant5998]

Thanks for a great video. With all the complexity you have 100% convinced me to wait another 5-10 yrs to buy an EV.

[@Charango123quena]

This video presents a rather misleading perspective, and it's surprising how readily people accept it. It's hard to know where to start in addressing it. Firstly, the financial return from solar energy is minimal these days, with companies paying around 7 cents per kilowatt. Don't count on making a profit from it. Additionally, the advertised range for electric vehicles (EVs) doesn't take into account carrying any extra weight, so long road trips, especially beyond places like Noosa in Queensland, can be challenging due to the scarcity of charging stations. Installing solar panels is a costly investment; despite rebates, a substantial initial outlay (over $7,000) is needed for effective roof coverage, and the benefits can be limited. The high cost of EVs raises questions about the return on investment and how long it will take to start saving money. Also, the lack of a spare tire in many EVs could be problematic in case of a flat tire, with only a temporary fix like a spray can to rely on, which might not be effective for serious tire damage. EVs are great in smaller countries or when your days are mostly spent grocery shopping, but for a large country like Australia they are not there yet.

[@co2588]

Brilliant vid. Very informative to someone considering buying an ev. Thank you

[@robhaitch5544]

I often charge at negative grid prices with Amber in SA.

[@OldFliersGroup]

Feedback: A 15amp socket at a caravan park's power stand in most cases can't accept the Tesla 15amp plug. The cable is offset and gets in the way of the box's door frame. There is a work-a-round.

[@CapitanoDyingByTheSword]

Anyone know of any channels that go in-depth into what is actually inside the charging cord? Not so interested in this watered down stuff